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Originally Posted by drhawk

Trying to decide what the next step for a mid tier player like me. I maxed out big four+ and am wondering if it is better to work on crafting/leveling Shaman+ or Phyrus (non +) armor next.

Is it generally a good idea to skip shaman and go straight to infernal ? I am pretty sure I can do Haunted Citadel on normal over and over to get the materials for infernal.

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Shaman+ > Phyrus.
1936 > 1843 combined stats.

Apparently the next set to level up after Big4 are Shaman, Infernal and Dark Prince Armour thing. All are very good armours. I'm working on Shaman at the moment, but trying to get it to lvl 20 before I can get the + version.

after an update, my wanderer's shroud change to earth and mystic, does this happen to anyone??

I was just about to ask the same thing... Theey must've changed it back to what they had originally..dunno why...I liked my mono fire

how do you get more arena point, arena always give me opponent where they are always at the 1st range rank, cant advance at all, even I am at ribbon rank, they give rank 1-10 player, er, how to gain point like that ??

how do u guys get point ?

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Originally Posted by Oli

Hi can someone please tell me, does having wings or capes make any difference to your armour or are they purely just for show ????

Necromancer Guild.... Recruiting new members

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The wings and capes are purely cosmetic for now (just for show)

So, i have almost maxed all of the Big Four + armors and my castle is full, what should i be working on now? see tons of posts of mid game being about getting the Big Four and filling out the castle, but im pretty much done with that. Whats next?

Bigger four. Swamp shaman, infernal lord, dark prince, roc feather (optional)

So I found the spreadsheet and has been looking at the stats of the armours. I compared the numbers for these 2:
Phyrus (non plus) F/E 1036ATK / 807DEF (at lvl 70) 200k to craft, materials provided at boss lvl 15, long crafting time
Infernal Lord+ F/E 1025ATK / 1050DEF (at lvl 70) 160k to craft (2x 80k), need to hunt for Infernal Iron and 2x crafting time

If my math is correct, Infernal Lord+ needs 6734 EP to craft (1664 normal plus 5070 for +) plus time to hunt 36x Infernal Iron.
On the other hand, Phyrus only needs 5070 EP right out of the box plus crafting time


If I go for Phyrus instead of Infernal Lord+, I sacrifice 243 DEF points for 1664 savings in EP + time saved by not hunting for Infernal Iron.

Is this a good plan ?

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Originally Posted by drhawk

So I found the spreadsheet and has been looking at the stats of the armours. I compared the numbers for these 2:
Phyrus (non plus) F/E 1036ATK / 807DEF (at lvl 70) 200k to craft, materials provided at boss lvl 15, long crafting time
Infernal Lord+ F/E 1025ATK / 1050DEF (at lvl 70) 160k to craft (2x 80k), need to hunt for Infernal Iron and 2x crafting time

If my math is correct, Infernal Lord+ needs 6734 EP to craft (1664 normal plus 5070 for +) plus time to hunt 36x Infernal Iron.
On the other hand, Phyrus only needs 5070 EP right out of the box plus crafting time


If I go for Phyrus instead of Infernal Lord+, I sacrifice 243 DEF points for 1664 savings in EP + time saved by not hunting for Infernal Iron.

Is this a good plan ?

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No, 243 defense is a lot. And you only need to get Infernal to level 20 to craft the plus version.

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Originally Posted by Unresolved

No, 243 defense is a lot. And you only need to get Infernal to level 20 to craft the plus version.

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Thanks for the answer and the correction, somehow I thought Infernal needed to be at lvl 35 for + to show up. At level 20, the saving is only 656 EP, not really worth the difference in stats

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Originally Posted by drhawk

Thanks for the answer and the correction, somehow I thought Infernal needed to be at lvl 35 for + to show up. At level 20, the saving is only 656 EP, not really worth the difference in stats

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Legendary armors(****) require level 35 to craft the plus version. Ultra-rares(***) require level 20 to craft the plus. Either way, giving up 243 defense to save a bit of EP isn't worth it. 243 defense is basically the difference between a tanky armor and a glass cannon.

we can only advice, the ultimate decision lies with you.

You can lead a horse to water....etc, etc :p

I think I am going for the traditional Shaman -> Infernal route afterall. I was trying to see if there was an alternative to the Infernal route. The other reason for the question was I already have a stack of 20 snakeskin ready to use as upgrade material but not enough Roots or Infernal Iron yet. I need to use these snakeskins (and other extra armours) to upgrade something as I am running out of armory space.

I am too stingy to purchase gems and whatever little I had saved were immediately used to upgrade my TGs

What do you guys usually do with the non+ version of your epic boss armors once you unlock the plus version? Keep them, use them to enhance the plus version, or fuse with them?