**OFFICIAL** Feedback and Suggestions Thread!

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Currently at 300/80 armors(mostly FBAs) down from 1300/80.


Point req is a bad idea & will never happen. All it can do is auto eject ppl after a war. Would you not do this yourself?

Being able to kick ppl, add ppl, or change guild leadership around during a war will also never happen. There are innumerable ways this could be abused to screw other players on a whim.

Go back years of forums in every single Gree game & you will find a constant stream of ppl asking for this, & for HC only war declare.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Plz stop bringing it up & plz stop voting.

Gree could easily implement Non-War Guild events.

Kill X boss for 3 days
Craft X armor for 3 days
Collect X Material for 3 days

Guild earns points based on member participation with normal leaderboard.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

Gree could easily implement Non-War Guild events.

Kill X boss for 3 days
Craft X armor for 3 days
Collect X Material for 3 days

Guild earns points based on member participation with normal leaderboard.

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Support.

Also, I'm not sure if this has been suggested or if it's in the game (from what I've seen, it's not) but it would be nice to have the xp bar show how much xp you have out of the amount needed to level.

Over level 100 is getting boring, so expansions should be a must. :o

The guild wars are ridiculous. the same winners every time. you need to spend $400 or more per war to be in any top guild. that's if the rewards are even worth it. I'd rather go to a casino and spend that money on chance to win more money. especially now with online gaming sites.

Chance chests are messed up. We have spent a few hundred $ opening 40 chests at once. Each time it was an epic fail with mostly 2 star armors and one or two 4 star. :mad:

Thanks.

lol. NO TRADING PLS. must be those f2p people who want trading. if there is trading everyone in top 5k-10k will have full epics. lol then epics will be like legendary :/ pointless.

REVENUE, from chest will also decrease is trading is allowed.

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Originally Posted by toogoodformyowngood

lol. NO TRADING PLS. must be those f2p people who want trading. if there is trading everyone in top 5k-10k will have full epics. lol then epics will be like legendary :/ pointless.

REVENUE, from chest will also decrease is trading is allowed.

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You d*mned Elitist, you.

Trading could work if implemented with certain restrictions.
However instead of trading I'd prefer to have a chance to work my way to a craftable epic. Like combining 2 maxed legendaries, maybe spending 250k for the fusion instead of 25k, or by adding together fusion stones to increase chances or by "crafting" new materials combining existing materials.

I would like to make a request I dont see here.
I would like to be able to play the SAME character on 2 devices.
I have 1 S3 phone, with 4g.
I have 1 Tablet, with wifi only.
I cant take my tablet somewhere w/o wifi and play, and this is my main character (Dave3d).
I 'can' take my phone anywhere, and use either wifi or 4g.
Playing on my phone gives me a headache, it is so small. I prefere to play on the tablet, as its easier on my eyes, and I can see more.

So:
1. Is there currently any way to have the same account on 2 devices (Dave3d), and if so, how. (I know you can 'move' you character from 1 device to another, but I dont want that. I want 1 character on 2 devices.

2. If there currently is no way to play 1 character on 2 devices, could we make this happen? I dont see why not, both devices are tied to the same email and google play accounts.

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

I would like to make a request I dont see here.
I would like to be able to play the SAME character on 2 devices.
I have 1 S3 phone, with 4g.
I have 1 Tablet, with wifi only.
I cant take my tablet somewhere w/o wifi and play, and this is my main character (Dave3d).
I 'can' take my phone anywhere, and use either wifi or 4g.
Playing on my phone gives me a headache, it is so small. I prefere to play on the tablet, as its easier on my eyes, and I can see more.

So:
1. Is there currently any way to have the same account on 2 devices (Dave3d), and if so, how. (I know you can 'move' you character from 1 device to another, but I dont want that. I want 1 character on 2 devices.

2. If there currently is no way to play 1 character on 2 devices, could we make this happen? I dont see why not, both devices are tied to the same email and google play accounts.

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It's unlikely Gree would ever care to spend on the required server systems & upgrades this feat would require.
You must be new to this forum.

Also, see Bind Account

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

It's unlikely Gree would ever care to spend on the required server systems & upgrades this feat would require.
You must be new to this forum.

Also, see Bind Account

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I already know how to bind ('move') account to a new device..
I dont want to do this.
I want to play the same guy on both machines.
I already have 2 characters (Spooon and Dave3d), 1 on each device.
I want to be able to only have Dave3d on both devices.
Delete Spooon. Dave3d on 2 devices.

I know Gree doesnt make a lot of changes (not a total noob on the forums, or the game).
I was just making a request.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

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Currently at 300/80 armors(mostly FBAs) down from 1300/80.

Plz stop bringing it up & plz stop voting.

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id only assume you have nearly all epics and are a huge Chest junkie from many of the pictures i've seen, so my question here is, im sure you have stock piles of armor chunks from the beginning of the game - prolly enough to craft 3 of every boss armor, have you just not crafted any armor since... when?


Also i saw someone say there is no need for a crafting station because of rewards -
Epic boss yields 18 1*silver and 28 1*gold
the Arena yelds pretty a pretty good amount of armor on its own, with milestone, rank and win streak, but that alone doesnt level my armor to 35 once, then the second one to 70.

Is there a way to change your vote?

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Originally Posted by sxespanky

id only assume you have nearly all epics and are a huge Chest junkie from many of the pictures i've seen, so my question here is, im sure you have stock piles of armor chunks from the beginning of the game - prolly enough to craft 3 of every boss armor, have you just not crafted any armor since... when?
Also i saw someone say there is no need for a crafting station because of rewards -
Epic boss yields 18 1*silver and 28 1*gold
the Arena yelds pretty a pretty good amount of armor on its own, with milestone, rank and win streak, but that alone doesnt level my armor to 35 once, then the second one to 70.

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Haven't crafted armor since the bat cape EB event. Currently have 10-20k of every craft material. 100-150 of EB craft materials from maybe past 20-30 EBs. Spent 11k gems on Winter chest to get Arby+ thank god. That's mostly why I'm recovering from trying to burn through Fodder. 14 non+ epics at level 40-60.

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Originally Posted by sxespanky

id only assume you have nearly all epics and are a huge Chest junkie from many of the pictures i've seen, so my question here is, im sure you have stock piles of armor chunks from the beginning of the game - prolly enough to craft 3 of every boss armor, have you just not crafted any armor since... when?


Also i saw someone say there is no need for a crafting station because of rewards -
Epic boss yields 18 1*silver and 28 1*gold
the Arena yelds pretty a pretty good amount of armor on its own, with milestone, rank and win streak, but that alone doesnt level my armor to 35 once, then the second one to 70.

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I didn't say a forge is not needed I said I knew of multiple players that decided to get rid of it.

I hardly open chests besides using the free keys I get in game and I spend no gems in the arena... yet I can level my EB armor to 35 within 48 hours of crafting it. More often than not I need to free a slot by combining 2**. If I like the EB+ I can level it 70 pretty easily, and that usually is the only time I have space to craft a few armors.

I would like to add another 2 requests:
Ability to kick guild members during a guild war.

This is SO stupid to not have.
I completely understand not being able to add any new members during a war.
But, the innability to kick a D-Bag who declares war within 20 seconds of just finishing the last war is just horrible.

Who cares if they get their rewards?
Most of them are people who are either clueless, or joined JUST so they declare war to match up with their real guild (who declares at the same time), who can then point whore on your defenseless guild.
:(

Seriously need this option.

Also, the ability to LEAVE a guild during a war.
Sure, I will forfeit my rewards for not being in a stripper guild and not finding out until I have already spent lots of gems on a war the guild never intended to fight, or progress in.
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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

Haven't crafted armor since the bat cape EB event. Currently have 10-20k of every craft material. 100-150 of EB craft materials from maybe past 20-30 EBs.

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i just got to the point in the game where i can hit plus armor every time. but i think its a huge help that i have many maxed regular boss armors and many friends with Many types of maxd epics. ive yet to get a hold of one, but still working on that too. its just such a bore to level up armor by farming. snakeskin or anything. id LOVE if i could inverse that speed button. Press to slow down? that might help - i know last time i farmed for armor i was watching mythbusters on netflix and was just mindlessly holding my phone not paying attention to the game untill all 6 characters had no health. ive only done that once =\ now i use a small vice grip to hold a stylus on the speed button like a tripod in front of my computer and hit fight every x seconds.

Gree:

I personally Think that you should make it be so that you can trade armors between to accounts. Like if I were to give my second account all my old and used armors I would. Just so it can be better.

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Originally Posted by Massenary

Gree:

I personally Think that you should make it be so that you can trade armors between to accounts. Like if I were to give my second account all my old and used armors I would. Just so it can be better.

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I personally think you people don't understand how a game like this would be horribly broken by introducing trading.

Because Gree thinks you should be able to powerlevel your second account with all your old armors...

My level 25 alt account could have GW+ epics without having to pay a cent for them.

Makes perfect sense.

Idiot.

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

I personally think you people don't understand how a game like this would be horribly broken by introducing trading.

Because Gree thinks you should be able to powerlevel your second account with all your old armors...

My level 25 alt account could have GW+ epics without having to pay a cent for them.

Makes perfect sense.

Idiot.

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I think trading should be implemented but it should have a few rules. Such as only epic for epic trading. Maybe making trades become a money sink, charging 2m gold to process a trade. I think the most effective measure would be to have trading inaccessible until story mode is completed. That is usually done around level 70-80.

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

I would like to add another 2 requests:
Ability to kick guild members during a guild war.

This is SO stupid to not have.
I completely understand not being able to add any new members during a war.
But, the innability to kick a D-Bag who declares war within 20 seconds of just finishing the last war is just horrible.

Who cares if they get their rewards?
Most of them are people who are either clueless, or joined JUST so they declare war to match up with their real guild (who declares at the same time), who can then point whore on your defenseless guild.
:(

Seriously need this option.

Also, the ability to LEAVE a guild during a war.
Sure, I will forfeit my rewards for not being in a stripper guild and not finding out until I have already spent lots of gems on a war the guild never intended to fight, or progress in.
:(

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

Being able to kick ppl, add ppl, or change guild leadership around during a war will also never happen. There are innumerable ways this could be abused to screw other players on a whim.

Go back years of forums in every single Gree game & you will find a constant stream of ppl asking for this, & for HC only war declare.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Plz stop bringing it up & plz stop voting.

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All guilds, Free or spending, should be in a 24-hour war cycle using 60min personal timers to maximize free energy/scouting & coordinating gem wins around this permanent state of war.

If you are getting mad that someone declared "too soon" you're a nub.

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Originally Posted by Massenary

Gree:

I personally Think that you should make it be so that you can trade armors between to accounts. Like if I were to give my second account all my old and used armors I would. Just so it can be better.

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I'd love a trading system... but one that won't allow the abuse you just described.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

All guilds, Free or spending, should be in a 24-hour war cycle using 60min personal timers to maximize free energy/scouting & coordinating gem wins around this permanent state of war.

If you are getting mad that someone declared "too soon" you're a nub.

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Hi Euny, we do this ..but I also see the point of the previous post. We had three leechers during last war would have been nice to be allowed to kick before the end of the war.

But I can see Gree's point, where it would be hard to give out rewards ...you have to fight all 3 days, half the war, would be too hard for Gree's programming who to give out rewards too if they allowed the guild to change people during war imo.

I think you both have good points. Hi Euny ...you know we love ya.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

All guilds, Free or spending, should be in a 24-hour war cycle using 60min personal timers to maximize free energy/scouting & coordinating gem wins around this permanent state of war.

If you are getting mad that someone declared "too soon" you're a nub.

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Yeah, thats great.
IF you are in clan with 70+ members.
And, IF you are in a clan that has rules, be active or out you go.
And, IF you can screen your members in 20 stripper clans before they get to your guild.
And, IF you are in a gemming clan.

Most people dont have that luxury.
A lot of us just want to be in an active clan, and not have to put up with BS clans, and not spend $1,000 a month to be in one.
;)

But, I do acknowledge your point.
Thats why a few of us left guilds and started our own (my brothers guild).
We are hoping to avoid all those pitfalls of falling into an innactive or stripper guild (but, it might be hard w/o being able to kick people during wars).

Gree could make a simple rule for getting kicked, or for leaving a clan:
If you get kicked, or leave, you dont get any rewards. BUT, you 'should' get like $25k from the guild bank.

Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Eunuchorn

All guilds, Free or spending, should be in a 24-hour war cycle using 60min personal timers to maximize free energy/scouting & coordinating gem wins around this permanent state of war.

If you are getting mad that someone declared "too soon" you're a nub.

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It's not efficient to do this for most f2p guilds. Free energy is every 25 minutes. They need 2-3 for the guardian and 6 for the sent. So if they continually are in wars they are getting 2-3 attacks per person (assuming 10 minute gap between wars). Assume 30 members, 10 of which are active in the battle. That's 2.5 attacks times 10 players or 25 attacks, but you're giving up 8-9 clearing the guardian and sent. So 16-17 attacks after that point. Not enough to get the win, lose the 50% bonus. Inefficient.

Unless you have guys that will gem a bit and you are a big guild, the guard/sent cost can really eat into your score per battle and prevent you from getting win bonuses.

Eun just can't fathom a guild that operates like this (i.e. 90% of guilds).

Who banned Eun?

The most active member of this forums and a daily contributor.


Just curious which asshat thought this was a good idea

I mean asshat in the sweetest of terms

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Originally Posted by Tachy

I mean asshat in the sweetest of terms

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Well he'll be on through an alt in seconds. But I gotta agree that's ridiculous. It's someone's overeager response to his post about using a game reload glitch (two days ago?).

But that's really just semantics because he wasn't exploiting it, he was alerting GREE to it. But his phrasing was certainly insensitive to GREE's rules.

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#freeEun!!

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#freeEun!!

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$100,000 = OMG! #Eunisnuts!!

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Originally Posted by The Pale Rider

Well he'll be on through an alt in seconds. But I gotta agree that's ridiculous. It's someone's overeager response to his post about using a game reload glitch (two days ago?).

But that's really just semantics because he wasn't exploiting it, he was alerting GREE to it. But his phrasing was certainly insensitive to GREE's rules.

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Not that he can't just come back, but it just shows how awful the moderating is here and Gree's general approach to its biggest customers

Stay classy

**UPDATE 1/15/: I've Added a poll..pending results, new feedback threads will be made in regards to specific categories as this thread has become a bit overwhelming to parse through. If you have ideas on categories...feel free to comment on this thread**

After only 2.5 months - we got a poll that will eventually get us more feedback threads to discuss the poll results. Who could fault that kind of responsiveness from the moderators ;)

Why within 6 months we could have us a genuine decision on what change will eventually be implemented. But that's probably rushing things.

$100,000!! Man, I gotta know what kind of job you have!

I don't like the small world map. Maybe consider making it bigger? More areas to fight with some variety in the monsters? There isn't a lot of reward to randomly fighting monsters.

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

IF you are in clan with 70+ members.

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Max members per guild: 40

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

And, IF you are in a clan that has rules, be active or out you go.

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Ya, why would you stay in a guild that doesn't do this?

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

and, IF you can screen your members in 20 stripper clans before they get to your guild

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What does this even mean?

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

And, IF you are in a gemming clan.

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Eunuchorn specifically said this strat works best for free guilds. Reiterating the opposing point is not an argument.

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

most of us just want to be in an active clan, and not have to put up with BS clans, and not spend $1,000 a month.

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Being able to log in at absolutely any point during 3 day guild war & participate does sound terribly inactive.....
What does putting up with BS guilds even mean?
Spending $1000 a month sounds like you have a chest addiction. ~$200/300k war points.
I would even go so far as to say $$ has nothing to do with guild activity level; but wth do I know.

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

Gree could make a simple rule for getting kicked, or for leaving a clan: if you get kicked, or leave, you dont get any rewards. BUT, you 'should' get like $25k from the guild bank.

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"Hey man, I know you had 400k war points, but I decided to kick you 5min before war was over. You're not gonna get the rewards but don't worry, you'll get 25k from our guild bank."

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Originally Posted by Dave3d

Just my opinion.

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Your opinion is f*cking wrong.

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Originally Posted by Bride of Eunuchorn

Your opinion is f*cking wrong.

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That is pretty harsh, but probably true. :/

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Originally Posted by Bride of Eunuchorn

Max members per guild: 40

Ya, why would you stay in a guild that doesn't do this?
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What does this even mean?

He specifically said this strat works best for free guilds. Reiterating the opposing point is not an argument.

Being able to log in at absolutely any point during 3 day guild war & participate does sound terribly inactive.....
What does putting up with BS guilds even mean?
Spending $1000 a month sounds like you have a chest addiction. ~$200/300k war points.
I would even go so far as to say $$ has nothing to do with guild activity level; but wth do I know.

"Hey man, I know you had 400k war points, but I decided to kick you 5min before war was over. You're not gonna get the rewards but don't worry, you'll get 25k from our guild bank."

Your opinion is f*cking wrong.

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eunchorn revived? awakening?

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Originally Posted by The Pale Rider

It's not efficient to do this for most f2p guilds. Free energy is every 25 minutes. They need 2-3 for the guardian and 6 for the sent. So if they continually are in wars they are getting 2-3 attacks per person (assuming 10 minute gap between wars). Assume 30 members, 10 of which are active in the battle. That's 2.5 attacks times 10 players or 25 attacks, but you're giving up 8-9 clearing the guardian and sent. So 16-17 attacks after that point. Not enough to get the win, lose the 50% bonus. Inefficient.

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Sounds like a GM & coordination problem. There's a lot of psychology at play & it would take time to condition your guildmates to fully optimize the strat & work together, but that's what good leadership is supposed to do. Your guild needs to work together to assess every situation. To me, organizing a war schedule or declaring every 2-3hours & counting on ppl to be there is more difficult.

Think about a day in the life of avg K&D player during war. For someone who is trying to play around/between work/family/school/sleep, which of the following situation seems most beneficial:

(Guild has no personal timer policy)
A.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min, forget to check back in for 60+ min; they come on with 1-20min left of battle & losing by large margin. They take no action, & forget to check back for X amount of time, missing X amount of battles & sitting at full free energy for way too long.
B.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min; they come back on time & spend 4 energy. They forget to check back for X amount of time, missing X amount of battles & sitting at full free energy for way too long.

(Strict guild personal timer policy)
C.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min; set a timer, when it goes off you are too busy to log in right then.
You remember out of nowhere your timer went off but battle is already over. GM says next declare in 2 hours. You have now been at full free energy for way too long. Hopefully it doesn't happen again. (it will)

(Strict Personal Timer & Permawar policy)
D.
Check GAME knowing battle will ways be going on. It's early, sent & guard are still up, you have 3-4 attacks but you suck though, so do 1 guardian attack. You immediately (out of habit & strictly enforced personal timer policy) go set a timer to match current recharge timer (1-2 attacks per battle ensures being full at next timer or sooner in case a push is needed)
D-1: You check back before timer goes off. Your guild is ahead by a ton, readjust timer to fit new current recharge.
D-2: You check back in & it's almost tied. You're already back at 2-4 energy; read in-game guild chat for a scouted lineup you can kill; spend 1-4 energy. Readjust personal timer to match current recharge.
D-3: You check back & your guild is way way behind & it's acknowledged as a loss. You're at 2-4 energy. Readjust personal timer to match time left in battle/recharge BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER BATTLE RIGHT AFTER IT.

Permawar requires patience, coordination, & smart strategic play(not wasting 6 random attacks on a sentinel; keep a guild note of who you face & sentinel/HC scouts for future reference in rematches.)
If someone knows they can load game *at any point over 3 day war* they are much more likely to check game more often & make best use of free energy.

30 ppl setting a 1hour timer based on personal time zones & work/class schedules creates a perpetual stream of logging in & checking current status of battle.
If everyone in guild is on same page, people will efficiently check in around their own personal timers & easily determine or be told what is needed based on the score & time left of battle. It may take time & practice but a well run guild will always do better in permawar despite amount of gems spent.

Bet on it.

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Originally Posted by Bride of Eunuchorn

Sounds like a GM & coordination problem. There's a lot of psychology at play & it would take time to condition your guildmates to fully optimize the strat & work together, but that's what good leadership is supposed to do. Your guild needs to work together to assess every situation. To me, organizing a war schedule or declaring every 2-3hours & counting on ppl to be there is more difficult.

Think about a day in the life of avg K&D player during war. For someone who is trying to play around/between work/family/school/sleep, which of the following situation seems most beneficial:

(Guild has no personal timer policy)
A.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min, forget to check back in for 60+ min; they come on with 1-20min left of battle & losing by large margin. They take no action, & forget to check back for X amount of time, missing X amount of battles & sitting at full free energy for way too long.
B.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min; they come back on time & spend 4 energy. They forget to check back for X amount of time, missing X amount of battles & sitting at full free energy for way too long.

(Strict guild personal timer policy)
C.
Check Line, be told next declare is in 30 min; set a timer, when it goes off you are too busy to log in right then.
You remember out of nowhere your timer went off but battle is already over. GM says next declare in 2 hours. You have now been at full free energy for way too long. Hopefully it doesn't happen again. (it will)

(Strict Personal Timer & Permawar policy)
D.
Check GAME knowing battle will ways be going on. It's early, sent & guard are still up, you have 3-4 attacks but you suck though, so do 1 guardian attack. You immediately (out of habit & strictly enforced personal timer policy) go set a timer to match current recharge timer (1-2 attacks per battle ensures being full at next timer or sooner in case a push is needed)
D-1: You check back before timer goes off. Your guild is ahead by a ton, readjust timer to fit new current recharge.
D-2: You check back in & it's almost tied. You're already back at 2-4 energy; read in-game guild chat for a scouted lineup you can kill; spend 1-4 energy. Readjust personal timer to match current recharge.
D-3: You check back & your guild is way way behind & it's acknowledged as a loss. You're at 2-4 energy. Readjust personal timer to match time left in battle/recharge BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE IS ANOTHER BATTLE RIGHT AFTER IT.

Permawar requires patience, coordination, & smart strategic play(not wasting 6 random attacks on a sentinel; keep a guild note of who you face & sentinel/HC scouts for future reference in rematches.)
If someone knows they can load game *at any point over 3 day war* they are much more likely to check game more often & make best use of free energy.

30 ppl setting a 1hour timer based on personal time zones & work/class schedules creates a perpetual stream of logging in & checking current status of battle.
If everyone in guild is on same page, people will efficiently check in around their own personal timers & easily determine or be told what is needed based on the score & time left of battle. It may take time & practice but a well run guild will always do better in permawar despite amount of gems spent.

Bet on it.

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Of course you're correct that a strategy is preferrable to no strategy. I'm not advocating for large gaps for anyone, I was just pointing out that continually declaring is not an optimal strategy for all. I've always had a 25 minute rule (assuming another 5-10 minutes to get the match). That way I know that every member has at least 1 energy block at the start of the war, often 2. It's frequent enough that most of the time when you log in a war is happenning. But not so frequently that everyone is screaming that they're out when the war starts and getting all jumpy.

But we also have at least 10 guys who gem a bit, so I don't worry too much about getting caught with a guild full of guys with 1 energy block.

Not worth it.