[Guild Wars iOS] War of the Heavens

Is this suppose to happen? Another guild's sentinel I fought had seriously high atk ( wing wurm armor) , basically he jus 2 wack my black kals+(lvl 63) and I lost. Is not sentinels only bonus is the 50% def bonus when in war? That guy that I fought has like 50% ATK AND DEF boost. Cos after my black kals+ is downed in 2 whack by , my other 2 knights got 1 whack and they jus died, no critical hit or what so ever. I was really amazed. What jus happened?

Edit : if needed info, im lvl 120. Line up : (me) mantle of beast+ VS wing wurm, (me) black kals+ VS wing wurm/half dragon( 1 whack from wing wurm and 1 wack by half dragon and I'm dead) , sky guardian VS half dragon( 1 whack KOed) his 3rd was a black frost raiment. This is m 2nd line up( fought him twice) first line up is the scenario happened stated above.

Update, Wise One? I still can't play. I used to be able to fight, but for some reason I can't access the GW page... Crashes everytime.

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Originally Posted by levilee

Is this suppose to happen? Another guild's sentinel I fought had seriously high atk ( wing wurm armor) , basically he jus 2 wack my black kals+(lvl 63) and I lost. Is not sentinels only bonus is the 50% def bonus when in war? That guy that I fought has like 50% ATK AND DEF boost. Cos after my black kals+ is downed in 2 whack by , my other 2 knights got 1 whack and they jus died, no critical hit or what so ever. I was really amazed. What jus happened?

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Yes, 50% is rediculous, on top of the 15% default as GS.

Good luck with the game as it is currently F?€K up badly.

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

If people spent gems on energy, tried to use said energy, and lost it, then yes, they deserve a refund. If they do it repeatedly, they're idiots, and then don't deserve more than one chunk of gems refunded. They are also in the game, so they have a step up already on the people not in the game. Not that it matters, but its a step above others at the moment. Just saying. I don't disagree with any part of your statement. So yes, if someone bought a drink, and my staff member spilled it, or even if they didn't and the guest did, more often than not, yes, they would get another drink. The drink gets spilled a few times, no.

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If the waitress keeps spilling the drinks, as the boss I will sack/ban the waitress :) customers is customers, which we are as players.
So sack the code engineer for not trying to not spill the drink. Or close the shop completely while after getting huge profit from war events :)

If you really want to send a message to gree everyone should go to the app store and rate this game 1 star with an explanation of what gree has failed to do. While complaining on this forum helps relieve stress it does nothing for gree. There is such a small percentage of players and potential players that actually read this forum. As of right now this game is rated 4.5 stars on apple's app store. If people are serious about all the problems they should vote this game down so that the rating in the app store goes down. Only when gree feels the financial pain will they really get serious about the problems.

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Originally Posted by Marsh1

If you really want to send a message to gree everyone should go to the app store and rate this game 1 star with an explanation of what gree has failed to do. While complaining on this forum helps relieve stress it does nothing for gree. There is such a small percentage of players and potential players that actually read this forum. As of right now this game is rated 4.5 stars on apple's app store. If people are serious about all the problems they should vote this game down so that the rating in the app store goes down. Only when gree feels the financial pain will they really get serious about the problems.

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Bit harsh if you have enjoyed the game for a while. GREE have stuffed this up BIG TIME, agreed, but to send a message to them just contact support & register that you have been affected. Why downrate thegame if 90% of the time u have played you have enjoyed it? This is probably going to cost them anyway in loss of play, people not spending & loss of trust not to mention if they do decide on some compensation.
& I have found this forum very helpful in knowing that I am not the only one experiencing the problems & seeing a member on here with updates.. The Wise One obviously is in direct contact with GREE so I think the messages on here are getting through.

On the positive side at least now I can do arena, boss and farm. So the old game is mostly back. But guild wars is still unplayable. It lets me in when there is no war declared but crashes when it is declared. So it is still a mess. Very discouraging to basically be excluded from the entire event. I managed 3 battles all so far and only got credit for 2 of 3 wins. Oh, and I lost ALL my gold. Treasury wiped out.

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Originally Posted by Penelope Dragon

Gotta laugh at some people *****ing about RR winning. Its very likely they would anyway so not a relevant argument to the technical issues we are experiencing.

& as for compensation??? Well how does compensating everyone (which is what they would have to do) help those who have been severely affected? ie could not play the game at all for 24 hrs. If everyone gets the same compensation across the board eg 20 gems... then those that werent affected get the same bonus..
Definitely need to compensate people who bought gems & lost them however, because the exchange of money in this world means as a company they must deliver the product.

Either way, its a massive DISASTER the roll out of Guild Wars & GREE should be quite shamefaced at its lack of preparation.

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It's basic economics with RR: they have a higher percentage of people with higher disposable income than average in the game; hence, more of them have the latest iPhone 5 which appears to be largely unaffected. I think 50-60% of their players are active, I've heard both numbers from RR members and it appears to be a reasonable estimate.

My own guild only has maybe 15% 5's, and a few of the 4/4S's got in at least somewhat post-Gree's patch (I wasn't one of them but whatever); I'm not certain why there's the volume of vitriol either against RR in this case, and their points don't seem out of line for what they've had. Rainbow Party at 10ish has had at most 7 and usually 4-5 members fighting with a long period overnight where hardly any points were generated, so 3x the participation (napkin math) and likely better coordination and energy management resulting just over 3x the points... appears to be working as intended without any hacks / cheats / or even massive gem spending to date. They (RR) probably even got decent nights sleep too.

This isn't nuclear physics, fact is the math is pretty easy in this instance looking at the corresponding data point.

Gree screwed up, I don't think there's anyone even inside Gree who likely doesn't think that at this point; however, given that the whole GW when functioning properly within 2 months (approximate time to level set the armor gap which Gree appears to be doing with the GW rewards structure) will be just like the rest of Gree games: gemspenders win, I find it a little laughable that people are complaining about what effectively boils down to personal economics when it comes to RR's being able to weather the absurdity of this release.

End of the day even with this fiasco my guild is doing OK, there's no chance we fall out of the top 25, and may still get top 10 without my and so many others' involvement, and I'll still get 43 on the boss with an outside chance at 51 with Gree's current patch; it's mostly feeling utterly useless and letting my guildmates down which has me so incredibly disappointed with Gree, however irriational it is to let myself be bothered by something I have no control over in this instance.

Short of buying a new phone and in the unlikely event Gree can cut over the account to the new one this weekend... yeah, who am I kidding, especially when Apple is theorized to be releasing a new one this year anyway as they have for the last several.

Put a god damn X on the battle frenzy so i dont have to go into guild war and crash the samn game! What is so f**king har about that. Why do you assume everyone WANTS to go to battle at that particular time!

Like seriously, all these crashes need to be fixed and then maybe start over the war,
cuz i've been losing most of the battles do to crashes -.-

Got my first attack battle of the war in tonight and won of course ... But it was only a one time tease as it crashes every other time I have retryed joining war... Baby steps gree baby steps

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Originally Posted by King Mark

@busteroaf

Good to see you aren't one of those denying your guild received other bans/warning after King. But funny you're saying everyone in RR are cheaters/hackers, coz none of us is claiming that as far as I can see. But you cannot deny that your guild as a whole has been implicated, thus the mistrust over what you say.

Why I've posted that? Simple. Remind those cheaters/hackers from your guild and others to play legit or else, they'd be haunted. Do you have cheaters/hackers NOW, "perhaps no" and they'd think twice before doing so since the community, Gree and WiseOne are more aware this.

As for you bringing my mom and if I received love, you're barking on the wrong tree buddy. I think you should ask that question to Eunutroll instead since he seems to harbor hate and enjoys insulting and belittling a lot of forumers here.

For asking WiseOne to ban me from the forum, go ahead and make my day, LOL! But look around your own backyard first to see who needs real banning. Then again, I'm sure you don't have the guts to dare confront Eunutroll about his own behavior, lest you be kick out of the guild. Double standard much right?

I give credit to where it's due. Like I said earlier, this GW didn't come out right and a "TOTAL ROLL BACK", is an "OPTION" on the table for Gree to make IMO or they should have stopped it until they got everything fixed and launch it later. Saves everyone the headache and trouble. It's unfair to me/some, as I've spent gems & lost sleep, but it's more unfair to the majority who are/were affected by this massive problems caused by this GW.

Cheers!

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'Imagine' your guild is at no1 position, I'm you sure you wouldn't be the one who liked the option of a roll back.
Secondly: guess I'll have to start making screenshots to show you that we are winning every fight with only 1-10 people. Still half of RR can't get in the game. I still don't understand where you get the idea that all of us can play...

The rest of your post about hacking again => not again.
Haters gonna hate?

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Originally Posted by King Mark

@busteroaf

Good to see you aren't one of those denying your guild received other bans/warning after King. But funny you're saying everyone in RR are cheaters/hackers, coz none of us is claiming that as far as I can see. But you cannot deny that your guild as a whole has been implicated, thus the mistrust over what you say.

Why I've posted that? Simple. Remind those cheaters/hackers from your guild and others to play legit or else, they'd be haunted. Do you have cheaters/hackers NOW, "perhaps no" and they'd think twice before doing so since the community, Gree and WiseOne are more aware this.

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I don't know much about what happened, but i think it's unfair to assign blame to an entire guild over the actions of a few. guilds are not likely to be aware of exactly what each of their members are doing. If they were aware and allowed it to slide, or if after being made aware they still accepted the members into their fold then that's another matter entirely (like I said I don't know the details)

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Originally Posted by King Mark

I don't need to imagine, because all I have to do is "LOOK" at the majority who are affected. Even WiseOne doesn't have the right fix/answer to the mess. Unlike you, I'm not selfish when it comes to being on top, when I know the majority are affected and having trouble. That sets the major difference between me and you/and your guild. Because for the sake of the majority (even IF it happened and only a minority were affected, I'd stand with them). I'm for a fair and square war/fight.

Hacking/cheating again? So you'd still "claim" it was only king who was banned and NO OTHERS after? Going to act ignorant again and pretending you didn't know anyone else cheating/banned after king? I can start naming names you know, lol! I still have no respect for your egomaniac GM and a guild who is "FOUND/GUILTY" of "Hacking/Cheating". So try again will you?

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I don't need names? I need proof...
But maybe make another thread about it, cause this thread is about gw...

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Originally Posted by busteroaf

If people spent gems on energy, tried to use said energy, and lost it, then yes, they deserve a refund. If they do it repeatedly, they're idiots, and then don't deserve more than one chunk of gems refunded. They are also in the game, so they have a step up already on the people not in the game. Not that it matters, but its a step above others at the moment. Just saying. I don't disagree with any part of your statement. So yes, if someone bought a drink, and my staff member spilled it, or even if they didn't and the guest did, more often than not, yes, they would get another drink. The drink gets spilled a few times, no.

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I spent about 45 gems on GW last night. The first time I was surprised by the outcome (loss of points and energy due to disconnect). The second time I was hopeful that it would work - several hours had passed and hoped the issues were resolved (I am an optimist at heart) and Was partially right because I only lost 2 energy bars due to disconnects). The third time my guild was floundering in a battle, and figured ok, I have a 50% chance of success - ie based on previous result i was able to complete two battles out of 4, so went for it, with 2 wins possibly securing a victory for the guild, only to lose all my energy to disconnect. Call me stupid, i am blonde after all.

But, using your analogy of the bar. In all cases it was the waitress who was at fault. I, as the customer, was hoping to receive a less clumsy waitress. It didn't happen though. Should I Be punished or should the waitress?