How much IP will Fight Club Score

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Originally Posted by tam...

Blue, this has already happened in a roundabout way when Gree accidentally made an error and handed out 65,000 + free gold to a lot of players
Fight club still won the battle even though we were up against teams who had free gold to spend

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Hmm when did that happen? I never heard of that or received free gold. Can I assume FC also received free gold from this glitch?

Maybe I should rephrase this to be very specific. If one day Rogue Gallery sat down with all their members and said "enough is enough" we are sick and tired of losing to FC (and Indian I guess) and so hey committed to spending a ridiculous amount of money on the war. Way more than FC ever spends or was willing to spend. Are you saying that Rogue Gallery would still come in 2nd or 3rd?

Maybe I'm just not understanding what you are doing vs. the rest of the top 10 teams (besides the willingness to spend more than the next team) because quite frankly the method of battle, length of battles, tools to use in battles and IP from wins is very simplistic. Gold spent is the only major variable in the final amount of IP in a war.

I know your team is better equipped and I know you have slightly better bonuses but all teams play different teams. Also the #1 prize tends to not be crucial in war events for example getting 1 more energy every minute isn't going to do anything... unless you tell me that translates to war energy as well. If every team only went up against you then I can easily see why they would lose to you every time simply because your core group is better equipped but that's not the case in these wars.

I'm looking for answers because the only thing I can come up with is FC is more willing to spend gold versus the rest of the teams out there. The major variable of spending gold is the simple answer.

Not every gold spender is in FC. Just saying...

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Originally Posted by dr007

Not every gold spender is in FC. Just saying...

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Of course, but it's fair to guess that pretty much all of the subset who can spend "more than the average person earns in a year on this game, but it's pocket money to me" are?

The idea of 'giving money to poor people' is so preposterously wrong that I'd prefer everyone in FC to continue what controlling this game and don't bother to 'give money to poor people'. Ever. As far as what the stereotypical 'poor person' is going to do with that cash is concerned you're better off dumping it into a game. Much better for the econmy as a whole.

Also an untrue statement: we can assume that all top 10 syndicates have gold spenders. The top 3-5 syndicates are more than likely all or mostly gold spenders.

It is hilarious to read some of these posts. Fight Club was a mix of independent players at the onset. With the help of my good friend Paulio, we added some CK members. It was never let's look at who the biggest spenders in the game are. It was a way to align players with the same mindset: win syndicate wars. Some of these players have retired from the game or have wanted to take it easy somewhat so new (just as strong) players hav stepped in. We have never to this day only required players to spend to be in FC. There has to be trust. And you have to be a dedicated player.

I'm sure the haters will find plenty to troll or talk about. But, this, ladies & gentlemen, is the truth. I have been involved since the onset and I am still there today in a senior role. Don't believe the hype! And for those who truly feel there is no strategy other than money, think again and think hard or you will never be #1 even if you decide to spend massive amounts of money. Enough said....

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Originally Posted by sister morphine

Of course, but it's fair to guess that pretty much all of the subset who can spend "more than the average person earns in a year on this game, but it's pocket money to me" are?

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If you disagree with anything I say, go read it again. So far you haven't said anything I disagree with. You're overly defensive and setting up straw men.

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Originally Posted by dr007

I'm sure the haters will find plenty to troll or talk about. But, this, ladies & gentlemen, is the truth. I have been involved since the onset and I am still there today in a senior role. Don't believe the hype! And for those who truly feel there is no strategy other than money, think again and think hard or you will never be #1 even if you decide to spend massive amounts of money. Enough said....

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Well actually not enough said.

I'm sure you want to believe that there is a strategy that goes along with your gold spending but at the heart of IP accumulation the big winner is how much gold are you willing to spend to outpace the #2 team.

Again the rules of battles are fairly simple. The tools you are able to use, the lengths and time between battles (if any) and the bonuses available to Top 10 teams are relatively the same. Using scouts to find the weakest targets is common practice. Dedicating certain players to wall destruction is fairly standard practice. Your gold users tend to be the big hitters as they can get the most bang for their buck. All standard practices in CC.

The only major variable is how much gold you spend and its a huge variable that can have major impact on IP accumulation which is the end all be all of who is #1 and who is #2.

Convince me (and others) that there is some secret formula you use otherwise you'll just be chalked up to "the team that is willing to spend the most real money to be #1". Not that grand of a title if you ask me.

*munches more popcorn*

I agree with Dippy

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Originally Posted by MrM

The idea of 'giving money to poor people' is so preposterously wrong that I'd prefer everyone in FC to continue what controlling this game and don't bother to 'give money to poor people'. Ever. As far as what the stereotypical 'poor person' is going to do with that cash is concerned you're better off dumping it into a game. Much better for the econmy as a whole.

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that kind of poor people?

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Originally Posted by duckid

I'm sure you want to believe that there is a strategy that goes along with your gold spending but at the heart of IP accumulation the big winner is how much gold are you willing to spend to outpace the #2 team.

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indians spent a hell lot of gold trying to win the first war. ask them, where did they went wrong ;)
i'm not going to lay out the strategies fight club used so that you and others can take advantage of it. on the other hand, it is not rocket science. almost everyone knows what gives you more IPs during wars. go figure ...

They dont win their first fight in a new battle: Indians v FC
That's when everyone holds the most gold and is at their most enthusiastic to win
I don't consider the Indians to be gold paupers

I'm glad that duckid doesn't hate CC or successful players. Every post is another whine! He hates the fact that spending more gold helps FC win every single battle. Gosh, we're sorry! You design a massive online game where money doesn't mattre and we'll see how many people play your game. You're wasting so many pages with ridiculous arguments. You got us, duckhead! Buying gold contributes to success in CC. I hear the amount of money helps a little bit in auto racing, baseball and sailing. What an exposé! Please call the NY Times so you can make the morning edition. You are a one-note band. A monotone uninteresting band!

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Originally Posted by duckid

Hmm when did that happen? I never heard of that or received free gold. Can I assume FC also received free gold from this glitch?

Maybe I should rephrase this to be very specific. If one day Rogue Gallery sat down with all their members and said "enough is enough" we are sick and tired of losing to FC (and Indian I guess) and so hey committed to spending a ridiculous amount of money on the war. Way more than FC ever spends or was willing to spend. Are you saying that Rogue Gallery would still come in 2nd or 3rd?

Maybe I'm just not understanding what you are doing vs. the rest of the top 10 teams (besides the willingness to spend more than the next team) because quite frankly the method of battle, length of battles, tools to use in battles and IP from wins is very simplistic. Gold spent is the only major variable in the final amount of IP in a war.

I know your team is better equipped and I know you have slightly better bonuses but all teams play different teams. Also the #1 prize tends to not be crucial in war events for example getting 1 more energy every minute isn't going to do anything... unless you tell me that translates to war energy as well. If every team only went up against you then I can easily see why they would lose to you every time simply because your core group is better equipped but that's not the case in these wars.

I'm looking for answers because the only thing I can come up with is FC is more willing to spend gold versus the rest of the teams out there. The major variable of spending gold is the simple answer.

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The 65k glitch happened when GREE changed the bonus system from manual work to be automatic. Some players that were due to get a 15k (old 10 vaults) bonus also got the 50k (old 20 vaults) bonus as well. Hence 65k gold. Many of these players spent all gold on crates and le items. After some hours when GREE found out they removed the 50k unlegit gold from players accounts, that had got it by mistake, if it was still there. The players that spent their 50k gold already got 2 options.
1.) Keep their items but "owe" GREE 50k gold
2.) Gree should manualy remove these items from players inventory...very time inefficent work for the support team.
Gree perferred the 1st option.

This happened when it was night here in Europe...when I woke up that morning I had the same amount of gold I had the evening before. If I had been given exta gold by mistake I never noticed it.

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