How much IP will Fight Club Score

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Originally Posted by tam...

If no one paid, no one would play

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actually, i wanted to quote tam's words. she did say a lot in just a few words! all of the free players who "enjoy" playing this game should be thankful to those who pay for this game. those who shell out money are the one keeping this game alive. same goes with modernwar, other gree titles and other non-gree games wherever real money is involved. whether others do their part or not, i'll do mine. thank you fight club, ckm, indians, rogues gallery and everyone else who help keeping the game servers running for all of us :)

As someone who does buy gold occasionally, I don't want thanks from anyone. Each player plays in the manner they want to. If no one bought gold, I agree that GREE would simply shut game down. But I buy gold for my own purposes not to help anyone else.
I don't agree with the characterization of free play as "tougher" than if you buy gold. It's just a different style of game play with different expectations for outcomes. But reasonable people can disagree on these points. What I find unfortunate in this discussion is the constant introduction of class warfare and wrong-minded pop psychology -- the haves vs. the have-nots; the discussions of jealousy and the emptiness of the lives of frequent or high-spending players.

This s just a video game. We don't know each other well enough to say that by winning an event you don't see the sun. Or if you play 5 hours a day you're filling a void. That kind of snap characterization of other players' lives is grotesque. Too much Dr. Phil. We are all players of a game and that's our common interest. To go beyond that and say that free players are jealous of gold players or that gold players are rich snobs is silly and purposely argumentative. Let's discuss the game and not speculate about our RL lives. To the extent there is a community at all of CC players it's about the game and nothing else. And as a community, showing a little kindness to each other in this forum and on the walls in CC would be a refreshing change.

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

I'm begging for this this thread to be locked. Reading all 18 pages isn't a good use of my time. I could be spending my time in more fulfilling ways-- suntanning with no UV protection, buying lots of gold and feeling better as a person, or helping the local charity down the block.

<Wall of text pretty much begging for responses from a few easily agitated folks>

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Well played, sir. *munches popcorn*

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Originally Posted by Dipstik

Well played, sir. *munches popcorn*

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*takes popcorn from dipstik and eats it*

Dippy -- if I can entertain you for a few minutes, I feel like I've accomplished something today. 😊

I think the title of this thread should have been "when will Fightclub not come in first place?" That would be an interesting discussion.

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Originally Posted by Dipstik

Well played, sir. *munches popcorn*

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of course, how could you stay away from a thread that has gone 19 pages long .. those popcorns don't have enough salt, do they? this thread has enough :)

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Originally Posted by Gunflame

I think the title of this thread should have been "when will Fightclub not come in first place?" That would be an interesting discussion.

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that could happen only in #2's dreams :p

I haven't read it either, but I can guess.

Buncha people talking about how it would be better if fight club gave their money to lazy poor people instead of buying gold. Buncha guilty fight goldbugs saying "How do you know we don't? Mind your own business!" Buncha non-guilty goldbugs saying "How I spend my money is my own business" Buncha noobs complaining about how the game is biased towards goldbugs.

Am I close, Tzora?

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Originally Posted by Happyperson1

To duckid I say...Please stop playing and telling us here how you hate CC. Just stop playing and go self-actualize somewhere else.

That wraps it up folks...lets get on with our lives and do whatever we like doing. For many of us who post in this forum, that may mean playing CC. We are not addicted, we have other things to do in the world but I would bet that the vast majority of us enjoy playing CC. Because its a decent game.

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First off I want to make one thing very clear... I do not hate CC. You have completely read my posts incorrectly. I don't know why you did but you did. What I hate about this game is that it is so catered to people who are willing to spend real money to advance. There is no way around it. The vast majority of the games I have played in the past (mainly MMO PC games) have never been like this. If you wanted the rewards you simply had to put in the "work". To move past content you had to at least have some skill and tactics... you couldn't simply hand over $1000 to the GMs and say "make that boss dead and give me the loot!!!". But as people have stated this is a completely different game... and yes it is but it still doesn't change the fact that to advance in this game all you have to do is spend.

What people do in this game is up to them but you won't see me patting them on the back and being envious of their accounts because I know all they did was spend to get to where they are now. I've also spent money on this game (around $100 total) and for that I've progressed in some areas where I wanted to see the rewards. For those that wish to spend on this game good for them... but its just an easy way to move past any obstacle to get what you want. Not that much fun when that's all you do in this game to "succeed".

So that brings me to FC and the rest. FC is number #1 in this game because their crew is the most willing to spend money in this game. They have no special strategies and no advanced tactics that will separate themselves vs. the Indians or Rogues. They simply spend more to always be #1. At some point in time this has to get old for them but then again as they state it's "pocket change" for them to continue to throw money at this game so ho-hum.

I misspoke earlier in this threat about some guy winning the lottery and devoting all his money to this game... so let me restate this. Let's pretend someone in Rogues Gallery won the lottery and he gave $50,000 to every member in Rogues Gallery to dedicate solely to CC for one month. Please tell me what FC would do to ensure their own victory... and please don't say FC would have to spend $50,000+ as that's kinda proving my point.

I'm curious about your answer.

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Originally Posted by Dipstik

I haven't read it either, but I can guess.

Buncha people talking about how it would be better if fight club gave their money to lazy poor people instead of buying gold. Buncha guilty fight goldbugs saying "How do you know we don't? Mind your own business!" Buncha non-guilty goldbugs saying "How I spend my money is my own business" Buncha noobs complaining about how the game is biased towards goldbugs.

Am I close, Tzora?

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yup .. that's the salt i'm talking about *blink blink blink*

"Let's pretend someone in Rogues Gallery won the lottery and he gave $50,000 to every member in Rogues Gallery to dedicate solely to CC for one month. Please tell me what FC would do to ensure their own victory... and please don't say FC would have to spend $50,000+ as that's kinda proving my point." Blue

Blue, this has already happened in a roundabout way when Gree accidentally made an error and handed out 65,000 + free gold to a lot of players
Fight club still won the battle even though we were up against teams who had free gold to spend

You can all put this in your signatures and quote me on it. Fight club will lose to drama. Fight Club is, by definition, a collection of the biggest spenders in Crime City. Aside from a few stragglers who have their own issues (mostly indians who stick with their group out of nostalgia... isn't that cute?), if you spend enough money, you get to be part of Fight Club. When your group is defined by being the biggest spenders, it's logically impossible to believe they will ever be outspent.

But what WILL happen is eventually there will be a split within Fight Club. I don't know if a new group will be formed or, more likely, a large portion of formerly Fight Club players will decide to join another existing syndicate and make THAT group the default place for all the biggest spenders to go.

tl;dr: It's not about beating fight club because whoever "beats" them will BE the new "Fight Club." Don't even try.

edit: Since Drama is the strongest force in Crime City, does that make me HTC's secret weapon? I think so.

Evolution, it has a lot to answer for
Change is inevitable

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Originally Posted by tam...

Blue, this has already happened in a roundabout way when Gree accidentally made an error and handed out 65,000 + free gold to a lot of players
Fight club still won the battle even though we were up against teams who had free gold to spend

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The way I remember that is Gree snatched back any gold unspent within hours. Those players who received and spent it did so on boosting stats. The glitch gold certainly wasn't around long enough to be used for war fighting purposes.