Empty Hoods

[Childish Gambino]

Forgive me for being a bit of a noob here but when scoping out my rivals, i see a fair amount of hoods that are just barren wastelands. Big sizes too. Why expand and put nothing in it? Whats the reasoning behind having no IPH? Is it a punishment or a strategy or something?

[Luv4UR Mom]

People who probably either retired from the game (sold hoods and donated to syn), or just got tired of being robbed.

[Thugporn]

This is a problem and contributes nothing to the game economically, its just a waste of data/pixels period. Gree should delete those hoods or remove them from the rival list.

[Rodimus]

Gree should delete empty hoods after 30 consecutive days of inactivity.

[Vile Lynn]

GREE should do a lot of things.

[TZora]

and they say iph plays a role in how the rival lists are served. i see barren lands too, rivals with iph as poor as 5 mil at lvl 250. don't see much change except that we're getting rivals with higher attack/defense stats now. definitely an improvement. gj gree :D

[Eddie Eagle Eye]

Delete them now gree !!

[TZora]

dont think greedy wud do that, especially after watching those "i'm coming back" threads :)
but there should be some inactivity period before the hood is deleted or greedy will get a lot of "restore my game" emails. instead, greedy shud allow ppl to delete their hoods. i mean if anyone is trying to get rid of this addiction, shud be able to delete the stupid game once in for all and be gone. But again, will greedy do that? will greedy allow ppl to get done with the addiction? ;)

[cc thunder]

dont think greedy wud do that, especially after watching those "i'm coming back" threads :)
but there should be some inactivity period before the hood is deleted or greedy will get a lot of "restore my game" emails. instead, greedy shud allow ppl to delete their hoods. i mean if anyone is trying to get rid of this addiction, shud be able to delete the stupid game once in for all and be gone. But again, will greedy do that? will greedy allow ppl to get done with the addiction? ;) install the app Clean Master, it will permanently delete your game.

[Max Power]

Don't agree that they should delete inactives, but they should prevent them from coming up on rival lists.

Also, there are many styles of playing, and one is that people who are sick of getting robbed delete all their buildings and relay on on robbing to get by. So, people who are intent on robbing are complaining about people who have changed their playing style to get by on robbing? Brilliant.

If you are relying on robbing people and are pissed when you see empty hoods, you could always generate your own income, ya know.

[Nighteg]

The easiest and most fair way to deal with this is to match rivals list by iph. Or at least make it a bigger factor in the algorithm.

[gcfreem]

The easiest and most fair way to deal with this is to match rivals list by iph. Or at least make it a bigger factor in the algorithm.

Totally agree. It feels like they've included it, but in a stupid way, like your rivals list rating is based on a formula like Att + Def + 0.2 * IPH. So high IPH players get matched against higher stat low IPH players. Att and Def should be out of the equation. Make it so you can see + or - 20 levels, and 0.2xIPH through 4xIPH. This created incentive to build IPH, and creates incentive to build stats.

[Green Drake]

Why do you think building iph is the point of the game? I just never understand why some people think iph is the most important stat.

[Max Power]

Totally agree. It feels like they've included it, but in a stupid way, like your rivals list rating is based on a formula like Att + Def + 0.2 * IPH. So high IPH players get matched against higher stat low IPH players. Att and Def should be out of the equation. Make it so you can see + or - 20 levels, and 0.2xIPH through 4xIPH. This created incentive to build IPH, and creates incentive to build stats.

It solves one problem and creates another. There are many old time free players who will never be able to rob again because building IPH is the only thing you can do well in this game for free. So, by basing matchups on income per hour, you have solved your problem of not finding enough people to rob, and in the process, created a category of high IPH players who can find people to rob but can't beat them.

Perfect example of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[PACDROID]

Delete them all

[gcfreem]

It solves one problem and creates another. There are many old time free players who will never be able to rob again because building IPH is the only thing you can do well in this game for free. So, by basing matchups on income per hour, you have solved your problem of not finding enough people to rob, and in the process, created a category of high IPH players who can find people to rob but can't beat them.

Perfect example of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

But the high IPH, low stat players aren't robbing people anyway. No one robs anyone with less than 1/10th their IPH, because they don't want to give links back to their hoods.

[Green Drake]

But the high IPH, low stat players aren't robbing people anyway. No one robs anyone with less than 1/10th their IPH, because they don't want to give links back to their hoods.
Not true. There are people who don't care if they get robbed.

[gcfreem]

Why do you think building iph is the point of the game? I just never understand why some people think iph is the most important stat.

Well the point is to make money, right? I'm not saying its the most important, just that it should be the basis for the rivals list. The rivals list has to be based on something, so what should it be? I can think of a few options:

1. Level - Probably the best option, since it was the way the game started and many people played by this concept. It did encourage camping so I can sort of understand why it was changed, even though I disagree.

2. Att/Def stats - The dumbest idea possible, and also the current method. Getting stronger just gets you stronger rivals, so what's the point? When this method was implemented I dodged robbers by leaving my top 25 syndicate, dropping mafia, and skipping events. All in an attempt to make my stats bad. And guess what, it worked. All my rivals were less active players, so I hardly ever got robbed. Shouldn't the point be to encourage, not discourage, players from getting stronger?

3. IPH - I wrote about this earlier. It isn't perfect, but worlds better than the current system. It encourages both IPH and stat growth.

4. Nothing - You can see every single player in your rivals list. Each refresh give 20 new random players from the CC universe. Sure, low level players would get beat up once and a while by high level, but usually it wouldn't be worth the effort. Plus it would be next to impossible to find a specific player, so you might get hit once by a high level player, but you wouldn't have to worry about him coming back for more. There would be no reason (except for Epic Boss) to camp.

5. PVP Tournament - This is what they did in Knights & Dragons, and I thought it was great. Have a PVP tournament every cycle. Give points for successful wins and robberies. Your rivals list is everyone ranked near you in the tournament. So initially, you can see everyone, but win a few fights and you'll only see other active players. The list will sort itself out based on player strength and activity level. Those who want to camp, will get beat up for a few days, until the active players move up in the rankings. Active players will keep moving up until they have trouble finding people to beat. This would be a radical change, but I think it would be great.

[Green Drake]

Point of an online game for me is to have fun. Some do it by building iph, some by building other stats, some by doing well in syndicate events......whatever. I find robbing to be the most challenging part of the game, therefore the most fun. I have a decent iph but don't really see the point of it.
Still don't get why people think having the best iph means you are somehow "winning" the game.

[gcfreem]

Point of an online game for me is to have fun. Some do it by building iph, some by building other stats, some by doing well in syndicate events......whatever. I find robbing to be the most challenging part of the game, therefore the most fun. I have a decent iph but don't really see the point of it.
Still don't get why people think having the best iph means you are somehow "winning" the game.

Sure, people can enjoy whatever part of the game they want. You're not "winning" the game by having the highest IPH anymore than you are winning the game by being in the #1 syndicate. But like you said, some people care about it so they are winning the part of the game they enjoy.

You enjoy robbing, that's great. Do you like robbing Laundromats just as much as Nightclubs?

[Green Drake]

Nope there is no challenge in robbing a laundry.

[t12pm]

Nope there is no challenge in robbing a laundry.

There is no challenge in robbing at all when it only takes half of the guys defense stat to rob him, and there is no challenge when you camp in someone's hood for over 2 months which we all know you do

[Green Drake]

There is no challenge in robbing at all when it only takes half of the guys defense stat to rob him, and there is no challenge when you camp in someone's hood for over 2 months which we all know you do
Lol. Real easy solution. Collect your buildings. If it's not me it would be the next guy. Too funny

[t12pm]

Lol. Real easy solution. Collect your buildings. If it's not me it would be the next guy. Too funny

It is funny just trying to see what this big challenge is you talk about. Your wall comments tell a good story of your play style

[Green Drake]

Honored that you read my wall. Been awhile since I have actually looked at it so I just did. Not sure what you are referring to but it is full of people wishing me well, saying hello, joking around or asking me to join their syndicate.

[<3 Hz]

Socialism (robbing) has ruined crime city just like it has ruined every society that has dabbled in it. The Marxists at GREE should remove rob and let free market capitalism thrive. Everyone should keep what they earn without having their wealth redistributed to leeches.

[Green Drake]

Socialism (robbing) has ruined crime city just like it has ruined every society that has dabbled in it. The Marxists at GREE should remove rob and let free market capitalism thrive. Everyone should keep what they earn without having their wealth redistributed to leeches.
Are you seriously trying to apply political ideologies and economic principals to an online game titled Crime City? Precious. Lol

[<3 Hz]

Are you seriously trying to apply political ideologies and economic principals to an online game titled Crime City? Precious. Lol

Yes because that's the way it is in this game "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" that should be CC's motto lol. They'll blindly vote for Hillary in 2016.

[Green Drake]

Ok. I am done with this thread. The raving lunatics have arrived to preach from their bully pulpit. My advice. Grab a Lagunita's Little Sumpin Ale and stop taking yourself and this game waaaaaay to seriously. You need to relax.

[<3 Hz]

Ok. I am done with this thread. The raving lunatics have arrived to preach from their bully pulpit. My advice. Grab a Lagunita's Little Sumpin Ale and stop taking yourself and this game waaaaaay to seriously. You need to relax.

Yes! Beer is good. I'll grab one while I wait for Captain Torque and Molly's Voice to post up here.

[TxTireMan]

Delete them. They're annoying

[Vile Lynn]

I like attacking the (retired) players with empty hoods for bricks and RP, knowing that they won't care or come back to rob me.

[Max Power]

Ok. I am done with this thread.

well, to be fair, emptying hoods is a strategy to stop you from robbing them all the time, and a fair one. You may not like it, but people like you are the reason they made that decision. Kinda silly to sweat it....

[Green Drake]

well, to be fair, emptying hoods is a strategy to stop you from robbing them all the time, and a fair one. You may not like it, but people like you are the reason they made that decision. Kinda silly to sweat it....not sure how you have taken my comment completely out of context.......but good for you. My statement dealt with the person relating Crime City to capitalism. I wasn't taking his comment as being serious.
I play the game the way I want to play the game, completely within the confines of the rules. People can't handle that and want to sell their hoods so I don't rob them? Seems silly but so be it. I assure you I don't sweat that. Didn't even know it occurred until just now.

[TheJess]

A pitiful way to spend the day clicking through the targets list looking for a building to rob.

[LongFingers]

I like attacking the (retired) players with empty hoods for bricks and RP, knowing that they won't care or come back to rob me.

I'm still watching you !!!
(from the Bar)

[Thugporn]

well, to be fair, emptying hoods is a strategy to stop you from robbing them all the time, and a fair one. You may not like it, but people like you are the reason they made that decision. Kinda silly to sweat it.... tell me again how is that fair when they contribute nothing or offer any counterplay? That's like saying it's fair for a poker player who has no money/chips to play against other poker players who bet something on the line within every game.

[Mcockbur]

Gree should delete empty hoods after 30 consecutive days of inactivity.

Maybe not 30 days.. You could have a device failure and gree takes time to put your game back... Or be on cc vacations...
but they know for sure who is not playing anymore... 3 months? 6 months?
Cleaning their database will help also in performance (I hope so).. There would be thousands of accounts not used anymore..
Or they can just have an option to to say: delete this account, I dont play anymore....

[Max Power]

tell me again how is that fair when they contribute nothing or offer any counterplay? That's like saying it's fair for a poker player who has no money/chips to play against other poker players who bet something on the line within every game.

No its not. Not at all. They have decided their sole source of income is robbing, something you are intending to do because you are in their hood. If all they wanna do is rob, thats their perogitive. You may not like it, but that doesnt mean its not a viable option. Its no different than active members vs occasional, gold spenders vs non, etc. as long as everybody knows what their options are, and everybody has access to them, it is the very definition of fair.

As if life is fair in the first place.......