Jamaica Cycle LTB - Upgrade Costs & Output

[ElMacho]

Please see below the walk through costs for upgrading and payouts.

Pretty decent building this time with any output bonuses at all should have a decent pay out. I also like the 12 hour cycle over 18 hour etc.

Finishing this gets you +1 Building upgrade!!!!!!!!!
Ground Unit - A:414,721 D: 254,183 (+1 Building Upgrade!!)



Costs below "should" be base costs with no building output bonuses.



Level
Cost
Output


1
100,000,000
750,000


2
167,000,000
1,500,000


3
280,000,000
2,625,000


4
467,600,000
4,125,000


5
780,891,667
6,000,000


6
1,304,090,000
8,250,000


7
2,177,830,000
10,875,000


8
3,636,975,000
13,875,000


9
6,073,750,000
17,250,000


10
12,147,498,333
22,500,000



Here's some great info from SSG I saw as well. It will really help you calculate your own info if you want to know your specifics.l


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B19Wogss-NpHUU9qaW15dl9MQ28/edit?usp=docslist_api

Here is all the information you will need for upgrade time, cost, units, xp

[VileDoom]

Awesome info! Tyvm

[Mahan]

Or Max al buildings +1 ? 11 instead of 10 ? Would be cool (stolen thought)

[Kossie]

Thnx for the info.

[Thumpr]

So....+1 building upgrade. Means two upgrades at once? Eek, hoshi desu!! Demo..$12 billion for level 10. I'd have to buy vaults of cash to get it...or...I could take the equivalent amount of cash and make a nice dent in my mortgage.

[Modern War Forum GF]

nice unit!

sadly EVERYONE that can get to 10 will have no use for it.. they most likely have +1 if not +2 and no building left to upgrade.

just next reward that fits right in line with a bunch of 1st place useless modifiers given out for a while. Like +1e, -5% health, yes gree us poor souls love them and can only keep on dreaming while the players that can go to 10 swear it's not a good defense modifier.

I have no dreams and will be happy to get to lvl6/7.. nice.

[East Coast Bias]

nice unit!

sadly EVERYONE that can get to 10 will have no use for it.. they most likely have +1 if not +2 and no building left to upgrade.

just next reward that fits right in line with a bunch of 1st place useless modifiers given out for a while. Like +1e, -5% health, yes gree us poor souls love them and can only keep on dreaming while the players that can go to 10 swear it's not a good defense modifier.

I have no dreams and will be happy to get to lvl6/7.. nice.

Agree. I will be able to upgrade my supply depot off cycle now. Gree needs to make this game more interesting by introducing trade offs. Right now it's about how much you spend. Since FL is the only event where you get one prize and not all the prizes up to your tier, introduce regen, energy, output, upgrades, etc., around the top 1000-4000 range. Naturally you don't make the slot available for 1000 teams, but for 5. Make top factions think about the trade off of getting another attack/defense unit versus these more desirable boosts. Of course, you miss out by a slot or few, you get stuck in a crappy prize range. Gives top teams something to think about, while giving lower teams all the incentive to go all out to fit in the tight space. If you don't make the game more interesting and bring in trade offs other than simple spending, the game will die of boredom. Now let me go and upgrade my command center that I had left at 3 all this time.

[SSG]

Calculations should have been fixed now

[IlliniFan1]

Not a very good output for the cost of upgrading the building.

[rushabhc]

the ones who can complete this building to lv10 they dont need any building upgrade.... that bonus is needed for small ppl....
once again i may say, GREE made a Sh*t

[Huj]

I'm surprised no one brought up the question of how the ****** is a rock a building? lol

The thing has to be the ugliest structure (this is not a building) In game.

[ckos2]

I can FINALLY have the +1 upgrade! I've been playing since the beginning, and have yet to own one.

There's many ways to play this game. Some people play for stats, others for IPH. Some people play every event, while others choose some, or even no events. And then there are those who can afford to play all and have all.

If you don't have it yet, be patient. Maybe one day you too will be rewarded for your playing style. I NEVER thought I would aquire this building.

There are many comments here that assume too much.

[Doc Rumpies]

Awesome, finally a great reward for taking a building to lvl10

[Spetsnaz]

Thanks for the info ElMacho.

[Rolinz]

@ElMacho: Thank you for putting out this info.

Why is it so hard for Gree to be making/posting these information in the forums instead of having to wait until one of our own players gathers the info somehow and post it for Gree. Is there a shortage of labor at Gree? Can't they afford to hire more employees to get the work done?

@IlliniFan1: I agree, very low output for the cost of the building and upgrades. But I suspect they did that because of the much desired boost reward for getting to level 10. After that, the building is not worth much for getting cash. The cost is very close to the same cost for the Zambezi LE Building, but with a much better output. I believe about 5 to 10 times more output, depending on your boosts.

@SSG: What calculations are trying to fix and who, Gree???

[SSG]

@SSG: What calculations are trying to fix and who, Gree???[/QUOTE]

Google drive doesn't like some of the calculations in Excel. Still trying to find a happy medium here for finding your RI (return of income) by how many collects. Everything else is working

[sbs2716g]

Not a very good output for the cost of upgrading the building.

The based output is consider quite considering that it is a 12 hr building . If add in your output bonus it will be much better

[SunWuKong]

propose to give health bonus for next ltb

[Addwind]

Please see below the walk through costs for upgrading and payouts.

Pretty decent building this time with any output bonuses at all should have a decent pay out. I also like the 12 hour cycle over 18 hour etc.

Finishing this gets you +1 Building upgrade!!!!!!!!!
Ground Unit - A:414,721 D: 254,183 (+1 Building Upgrade!!)



Costs below "should" be base costs with no building output bonuses.



Level
Cost
Output


1
100,000,000
750,000


2
167,000,000
1,500,000


3
280,000,000
2,625,000


4
467,600,000
4,125,000


5
780,891,667
6,000,000


6
1,304,090,000
8,250,000


7
2,177,830,000
10,875,000


8
3,636,975,000
13,875,000


9
6,073,750,000
17,250,000


10
12,147,498,333
22,500,000



Here's some great info from SSG I saw as well. It will really help you calculate your own info if you want to know your specifics.l


ElMacho, can you please verify cost for lv 10? Your calculations show 2x cost of lv 9, while SSG's spreadsheet show 1.67x cost of lv 9. Quite a huge discrepancy in actual Gree cash for lv 10 upgrade and could be the difference between a go or no go for me. Thanks.

[SSG]

1.67 is the correct cost

All LTB's follow this price increase and payout structure

[olama]

So what is the actual amount for the lvl 10? And if the lvl 10 was wrong, is lvl 9? O.o confusion to the max.

[BrisingrBoss]

i think level 10 costs about 10 billion

[SunWuKong]

total will require 27billion...lets start raiding

[sbs2716g]

1.67 is the correct cost

All LTB's follow this price increase and payout structure

Not true.. LVL 9 to LVL10 is usually 2 TIMES the cost of LVL9.. the rest of the levels are 1.67 times.

[elangomatt]

Not true.. LVL 9 to LVL10 is usually 2 TIMES the cost of LVL9.. the rest of the levels are 1.67 times.

I'll second this statement. Level 10 has been double the cost of level 9 for a long time. That is the only level that does not follow the 1.67 times the previous level pattern.

[Loki KAD]

nice unit!

sadly EVERYONE that can get to 10 will have no use for it.. they most likely have +1 if not +2 and no building left to upgrade.

just next reward that fits right in line with a bunch of 1st place useless modifiers given out for a while. Like +1e, -5% health, yes gree us poor souls love them and can only keep on dreaming while the players that can go to 10 swear it's not a good defense modifier.

I have no dreams and will be happy to get to lvl6/7.. nice.


Sorry but I have to disagree, I'm a leader of a top 400 faction and I'm hoping I'll finish and that +1 building for me will help loads.

Most of my guys won't get it but the ones that do will be subsidising the rest of the faction when we donate for bonuses.

Since GREE shifted the strategy towards having a high iph it was upon your shoulders to realise that this was the only way to go.

It was your responsibility as an intuitive player to advise your team to concentrate all your efforts on all cash incentive bonuses.
Some were for coming last in Front Line or for finishing normal LTQ's.

We stopped faction donations and now most of my players have well over 10 mil iph.

I'm sorry if this sounded like I'm calling you out.
All the best,
Loki

[ElMacho]

To the best of my understanding the cost to go from 9-10 is like others posted above. It's 2x the cost of 9. If someone can show me a screen shot of it not being right I'll change it above.
Get to raiding like a Viking!!!

[BrisingrBoss]

To the best of my understanding the cost to go from 9-10 is like others posted above. It's 2x the cost of 9. If someone can show me a screen shot of it not being right I'll change it above.
Get to raiding like a Viking!!!


I worked a lil on your sheet and Made some improvements. it now shows the time it would take in days, hours minutes, and seconds, assuming you are looking at the building as the upgrade finishes, it shows correct price for level 10, and i added a column with has the output with upgrades at the top, so all other calculations(ROI, IPH increase, etc) are also based on your own upgrades as well. I added a couple columns at the end to add on each prize unit, its attack and defense, and a tally total of all raw stats increased. Check it out:

[BrisingrBoss]

for those of you that visited the doc, sorry I was still making changes. ive stopped for now

[kguittar]

has anyone seen a list of rewards for each level?

[VileDoom]

Currently working on level 4. Unit reward is Cloaked Prototype: 47,827/39,131 air unit.

[SSG]

I stand corrected. Thanks for making some changes to sheet.

[SSG]

I made the sheet so people could input their values. Now you made changes (useful ones), copied it off to your own drive, & made it read only. I get pissed when people steal my work.

[BrisingrBoss]

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B19Wogss-NpHUU9qaW15dl9MQ28/edit?usp=docslist_api

Here is all the information you will need for upgrade time, cost, units, xp

Here is your Original post. I never claimed it to be my work, as specified on the original message i posted with my link. ALL i said was i made changes to your sheet. i wasn't about to make those changes on your original work. couldn't do that. you cant say i stole it when i gave you the credit for it. and again, the reason i made it read only is just so people could just copy and make their own changes without messing up all my formulas. only other way to do that was to protect the ranges i didn't want changed. if you prefer i can do that too.

Here is my link with the changes i made to YOUR sheet, based upon requests from people that were asking that the sheet should reflect their bonuses on ROI, IPH and everything else.

also for some reason, when i open your link it shows me a preview, so i ended up having to save your sheet to even do anything anyways.




anyone accessing this if there is any issues making the changes for your bonuses after copying the sheet, let me know. ill change it.

[elangomatt]

Currently working on level 4. Unit reward is Cloaked Prototype: 47,827/39,131 air unit.

Working on level 5 now, unit reward is Cloaked Cruiser 51,172/62,543 sea unit

[SSG]

I appreciate the changes immensely. Just could have let it open so peeps could input their data without downloading it. No harm no foul. If anyone has suggestions or needs changes made pm me.

[Chimera]

Hidden Gem Upgrade Units:
_Level______Unit__________Attack___Defense
Level 1: Cloaked Rebel______17,659___22,475
Level 2: Cloaked Frigate_____24,084___26,091
Level 3: Cloaked Tunguska___37,463___29,434
Level 4: Cloaked Prototype___47,827___39,131
Level 5: Cloaked Cruiser_____51,172___62,543
Level 6: Cloaked Sky Guard__83,881___63,278
Level 7: Cloaked Siege Craft__90,304___76,925
Level 8: Cloaked Dragon____112,379__155,188
Level 9: Cloaked Cheetah___232,781__168,565
Level 10:Cloaked T-900_____414,721__254,183

[BrisingrBoss]

just changed it so people can now Edit it.

[SSG]

Made a small change to calculate for cash onhand.
Works great as long as multiple people aren't editing at same time. LMFAO

[BrisingrBoss]

Made a small change to calculate for cash onhand

I was thinking about doing that, but i was falling asleep in my chair.

[Twist of Cain]

Bump. Too many threads on front page complaining about Gree's shady JuJu tactics.

[Merc_mw]

Put this up front for those that need it. Thanks for the great collaborative work on the spreadsheet!

[BrisingrBoss]

i finished it on one account already, and already have last upgrade purchased on the other account. the sheet really helped me plan for it. ill try to make sure to have a new sheet setup for next LTB as soon as i know the building type.