Lvl 100 - another 38% increase

[Nighteg]

/discuss...

[Dunky]

8.34bil health.... Where the F is their common sense?

[nazgul]

And begun immediately following a battle, which requires the same health. Syns are locked, and how many of use are at full health at the end of a battle?

[Winnson]

Yeah, this is pretty ****ing bananas.

[Dandd1821]

Starting right after was pretty lame but the health is good it is difficult but not impossible and if everyone can finish what's the point.

I don't know why everyone thinks they should be able to finish it ...elite should mean elite.. It's almost like rewarding kids sports teams for showing up....BULLSH1T

[Evan1000]

Starting right after was pretty lame but the health is good it is difficult but not impossible and if everyone can finish what's the point.

I don't know why everyone thinks they should be able to finish it ...elite should mean elite.. It's almost like rewarding kids sports teams for showing up....BULLSH1T

This would be true if 98% of teams can't finish. Top 20's shouldn't be struggling with this event

[Dandd1821]

They shouldn't be ... If they are something is really wrong....approx 60 players need to do 140m damage...that's one fa for most


Most top 20....I know everyone else won't have that fa..justbwanted to clarify before everyone started crying about their fa

[Evan1000]

They shouldn't be ... If they are something is really wrong

Exactly.. that 'something wrong' is the boss health increase

[Dandd1821]

Sounds like a activity issue...don't pick apart a post for what fits your crying...man up and drop some bosses

[Evan1000]

approx 60 players need to do 140m damage...that's one fa for most

It's not just 100's..Do 8.4bil*25.. now add up every other boss.. lvl95 (now 4bil)*22, lvl90 (1.5 bil)*17 etc etc, THEN factor in the fact that we only have 5 days to complete all the goals.. seem like a lot now?

[Morgz]

I don't know why everyone thinks they should be able to finish it ...elite should mean elite.. It's almost like rewarding kids sports teams for showing up....BULLSH1T

Not sure why you say "everyone thinks they should be able to finish it". I don't see anyone saying that. I believe that is just a poor assumption. That said, lots of people think the raise in strength is too much, and I agree. Of course elite should be elite, and not everyone should be able to do it. The discussion lies in where the line should be drawn. Is elite for top 10 teams only? Top 25? Top 100? Only Gree can answer that.

I think the problem a lot of people have, is many synds have been able to finish elite level of Raid Boss in the past. Despite those same syndicates continuing to participate heavily, finishing high in wars, doing well in SLTQ's and synd goals of Epic Boss events, those same syndicates are no longer able to finish Raid Boss. I would say many of these are the syndicates ranked 75-200 or so. I certainly understand the frustration of doing pretty much everything right, but then having the formerly achievable goal put out of reach.

The synd I was just playing in falls into that category. We finished RB the past, had gotten stronger all along, but now are borderline able to finish, and only if we bring in tons of jumpers.

That, along with several other problems mentioned here over and over are causing players to leave the game. That in turn hurts the syndicates, causing more frustration amongst other players, causing some of them to leave the game as well.

[Evan1000]

The first raise in boss health was what broke up my first syndicate, as our top players left for higher rank syndicates and a lot of our other members went inactive. We used to finish Raid Boss before that, and we were ranked Top 400/250.

[Winnson]

Can someone post the elite requirements, or direct me to where I can find it.

How many what level bosses to finish the elite?

[Weasel]

Can someone post the elite requirements, or direct me to where I can find it.

How many what level bosses to finish the elite?

Requirement are the same as they've always been. It's only the boss health that's changed.

[Evan1000]

Can someone post the elite requirements, or direct me to where I can find it.

How many what level bosses to finish the elite?

In counting-

9 lvl 60's
10 lvl 65's
11 lvl 70's
12 lvl 75's
5 lvl 80's
24 lvl 85's
17 lvl 90's
20 lvl 95's
26 lvl 100's

Here's the chart:

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/204/0rx6.th.jpg

[Marine007]

Anyone can finish it nowadays with letting others into your syn for jumping, why do you think they raise the health, would you like it better if they locked the syns and brought down the health? Most syns would not be able to finish without gold usage.

[Thugporn]

They shouldn't be ... If they are something is really wrong....approx 60 players need to do 140m damage...that's one fa for most


Most top 20....I know everyone else won't have that fa..justbwanted to clarify before everyone started crying about their fa
Top 20 should spend more moneys on the stripper named Gree.

[TheWarthog]

Our top 75 sister syndicate won't even likely to be able to finish. Our 160 syn stands no chance in hell. If there are, say 1600 syndicates (there are far more) and we are 160, that's top 10% and our sis would be close to 5%. Where do you have to place to be considered elite? Seriously?

[TheWarthog]

Most syndicates *could* finish it with jumpers IF the jumpers weren't having to spend the entire event finishing for their own syndicate. Free jumpers for the last 2 days have effectively been eliminated.

[Marine007]

It is tough, I have over 132 mil FA on 1 of my accounts and I thought that was considered elite, but now I am guessing 200 mil on a FA is elite, you can't beat this event unless you have a whole syn of heavy hitters, use a lot of jumpers, or gold. Do you think you should be able to finish with jumpers or do you think Gree should lock the syns and bring the health down to a respectable amount that would take little to medium gold to finish? Gree is going to have to make money on every event, it is a bussiness after all.

[kofiannan]

It is tough, I have over 132 mil FA on 1 of my accounts and I thought that was considered elite, but now I am guessing 200 mil on a FA is elite, you can't beat this event unless you have a whole syn of heavy hitters, use a lot of jumpers, or gold. Do you think you should be able to finish with jumpers or do you think Gree should lock the syns and bring the health down to a respectable amount that would take little to medium gold to finish? Gree is going to have to make money on every event, it is a bussiness after all.

I'm sure I'm missing the point, but why don't they lock syndicates during these events? At least if they did this for RB and then lowered the targets it would mean more people could try to get further into the event, and maybe feel they were getting somewhere. We feel we are going backwards fast just because Gree has to make the event a challenge for all the syndicates jumping around.

[TheWarthog]

Tough to say. I don't mind jumping and using jumpers. I think jumping fosters teamwork between sister syndicates so I guess if I had to lean one way I'd say jump, but they can't keep upping the boss health by 40% per event. No syndicate is going to be able to keep that pace. My syndicate SHOULD struggle to finish it. But in the example that I used above, the figures on should at least be trippled if not more. So my syndicate could reasonably considered in the top 3%, sis in the top 1-2%. They won't likely be able to finish this, there is no way we will be able to even with jumpers. 2 events ago we finished. It was close but we did it.

So it should be now. With jumpers and proportionally the same gold spent we SHOULD be able to finish unless we lost a lot of top players, which we have not. We've competed well improved our syndicate member****, improved our stats and are losing ground for this event. I'm motivated to buy NO gold rather than more.

[TheWarthog]

I must have mistyped. *membership

[Marine007]

I agree, lock the syns, bring down health, that way only real elite syns can finish it or use a reasonable amount of gold, I don't mind using gold to get an elite prize but not 2 or 3 vaults worth of gold, again gree has to make money, if you had a business would you give away your product/services for free? They give away enough free items already for the free players

[t12pm]

I agree, lock the syns, bring down health, that way only real elite syns can finish it or use a reasonable amount of gold, I don't mind using gold to get an elite prize but not 2 or 3 vaults worth of gold, again gree has to make money, if you had a business would you give away your product/services for free? They give away enough free items already for the free players

They are making a lot of people play free with their stupidity, what are all the free items they give away that you talk of. Last one I remember was a executive coupe that was because the event prizes seemed backwards

[Molly's Voice]

They are making a lot of people play free with their stupidity, what are all the free items they give away that you talk of. Last one I remember was a executive coupe that was because the event prizes seemed backwards

Hark...is that the worlds tiniest violin I hear?

Listen, bruh..the percentage of people that get the final prize should be small. It should be reserved for those dumb enough to shell out the dough necessary to get it. This is the way Merica works, my friend. If you don't like it..well, then you can git out.

[Marine007]

When I say free I mean items for finishing events that you don't pay for, easy raid boss prize, epic boss prizes, individual ranked items after battle event, etc, those are not good enough items for free? Everyone wants something for nothing, just play the game, if you don't like it, put it down, the world won't end. The game is still fun for thousands of free players.

[TheWarthog]

They're making money without the gold. App developers make money from in game advertising. You can play Angr Birds for free, for example. To get the elite weapon abilities for AB, you don't have to pay a renewing price of $100-$ 1000 every month. The giveaways for AB renew daily. The in game ads make plenty for most games to make cash from. Gree is putting the screws to its members and it is only getting worse.

[Marine007]

I have no idea how it works for apps to make money, I figured it was a lot based on in app purchases, Gree must be doing nicely then. Either way, it is never going to change, especially now that supposedly you can buy syns with all bonuses, buy players accounts, and buy players to come in and finish events for you with real money. Everything takes the fun out of it I guess.

[t12pm]

Hark...is that the worlds tiniest violin I hear?

Listen, bruh..the percentage of people that get the final prize should be small. It should be reserved for those dumb enough to shell out the dough necessary to get it. This is the way Merica works, my friend. If you don't like it..well, then you can git out.

Oh look the tiniest brain has spoken lmao I could care less about the final reward, just said they are making a lot of people go to free play

[TheWarthog]

Wow, I've never heard of those options. People who play this game seem to have more money than sense. Maybe the solution would be to offer a free and a pay version, and the two never interact.

[Molly's Voice]

Wow, I've never heard of those options. People who play this game seem to have more money than sense. Maybe the solution would be to offer a free and a pay version, and the two never interact.

Oh no, the two must never interact or it could cause irreparable harm to the space time continuum.

[t12pm]

When I say free I mean items for finishing events that you don't pay for, easy raid boss prize, epic boss prizes, individual ranked items after battle event, etc, those are not good enough items for free? Everyone wants something for nothing, just play the game, if you don't like it, put it down, the world won't end. The game is still fun for thousands of free players.

Nothing you posted is free you use your energy and battle health for them which at sometime most people put money into the game to get where they are, and gold users get the same items only difference is they get it quicker because of refills. Now show me anywhere in my post where I asked for stuff for free, or said anything about the elite reward

[Marine007]

Everything I posted is free, I got the easy final weapon for free yesterday, last epic boss event I got several weapons for free, I promise on tomorrow's ltq you will get free items and bricks, as many as you can get for free, you can buy items with RP, and you get free gold for watching videos, a whole bunch of free things! That isn't good enough for you? If you are not getting these items (except the gold possibly, due to issues gree is working on) I would def shoot gree a trouble ticket.

[iTzMeWaTeRrMaLoOoNe]

They should bring out a master level, like they did with MW, would be so much easier. Instead of increasing RB health a lot faster than our raw attack goes up. A free player gets 1-3m raw attack increase per cycle? Whilst a heavy gold players, gets 4-6m? The RB health is still going up a lot faster

[Vile Lynn]

Another whaaaaa "RB is too hard" whiner thread?

Stop whining.

[crime cow]

Another whaaaaa "RB is too hard" whiner thread?

Stop whining.

Please stop whining about the whiners whining every time you see a whiner whine...now go drink wine!

[Nighteg]

Please stop whining about the whiners whining every time you see a whiner whine...now go drink wine!

Hey! Now you're whining about the whiners who whine about the whiners!
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/17/17d574c4a623858b5bdb974339b1bc338e4f5e9aed51a3e93c bca17b88299925.jpg

[cooch]

A whiner telling whiners to stop whining? What has cc come to. Lol



Another whaaaaa "RB is too hard" whiner thread?

Stop whining.

[t12pm]

Everything I posted is free, I got the easy final weapon for free yesterday, last epic boss event I got several weapons for free, I promise on tomorrow's ltq you will get free items and bricks, as many as you can get for free, you can buy items with RP, and you get free gold for watching videos, a whole bunch of free things! That isn't good enough for you? If you are not getting these items (except the gold possibly, due to issues gree is working on) I would def shoot gree a trouble ticket.

You got no reading comprehension no where in my post did I say I want or ask for anything free. So quit asking if it's not good enough for me, you look in my inventory and it will show I use to be a heavy gold spender you get nothing worthwhile free in this game unless it is a mistake

[Marine007]

Everything I posted are free items. I scored extremely high in reading comprehension, there are many free items in this game that you do not have to pay for. I bet you recieved several free bricks and other free items if you are participating in the current LTQ. What about the raid boss event? Did you recieve some other free items? I bet all the free items you recieved raised your stats a bit. All for free!

[Weasel]

Everything I posted are free items. I scored extremely high in reading comprehension, there are many free items in this game that you do not have to pay for. I bet you recieved several free bricks and other free items if you are participating in the current LTQ. What about the raid boss event? Did you recieve some other free items? I bet all the free items you recieved raised your stats a bit. All for free!

The only things in this game that are free are direct gifts from Gree. Everything else that does not require gold to be obtained costs time. If something doesn't just magically pop up in your inventory and you had to spend time to get it, it wasn't free.

The energy/health that regens is free, you do nothing to get it. But you do have to spend it in order for it to be of any use. This requires time and participation, and should real life happen to prevent that you end up with nothing.

You also need to consider that all those items you described as "free" are available to most people who are not using gold. Net gain is little if anything in comparison to the competition. Simply obtaining items without using gold does not equate to the items being free or meaningful.

Your reading comprehension may be fine, but your critical thinking skills are probably what put you in your hospital bed.

[Marine007]

No, actually a RPG attack during an 8 hour fire fight, while engaging the Taliban is what caused my injury. when talking about "free" I meant it as using real money to acuire items in this game. If you are going to put a price on people's time, that is a whole different topic/conversation. A person installing this game and playing and never spending any real money on it and getting anything in the game is free, I don't think many people would be playing this game if it wasnt free, also I get pretty high marks on critical thinking on my evaluations. I am just pointing out to people that complain about the costs being to high and the bosses to hard that they don't have to do them. I am pretty sure you can play the game for "free" and it is still enjoyable, I agree that your time is money, but I was referring to the subject "free" as in monetary usage.

[Rodimus]

GREE is not gonna let us have it both ways. Players wanted jumpers and the end result was GREE raising the health of the boss. Now, players have a problem of unable to finish even with jumpers and gold usage. We are our own worst enemy when it come to this game. Deal with it people or purchase more gold for the prize which is gonna be obsolete in a few months. Your call

[B0ST0N]

The more players that have those Elite prizes in their inventory.. the more gree will raise it..

[jacksparrow]

They should bring out a master level, like they did with MW, would be so much easier. Instead of increasing RB health a lot faster than our raw attack goes up. A free player gets 1-3m raw attack increase per cycle? Whilst a heavy gold players, gets 4-6m? The RB health is still going up a lot faster

Does anyone know why they made it so that raid bosses only take raw damage, and nothing from the % bonus modifiers?

[smokey77]

Does anyone know why they made it so that raid bosses only take raw damage, and nothing from the % bonus modifiers?

I`m going to go out on a limb here and suggest its got something to do with having to buy more gold . Its the only reason anything changes in this game ;)

[smokey77]

No, actually a RPG attack during an 8 hour fire fight, while engaging the Taliban is what caused my injury. when talking about "free" I meant it as using real money to acuire items in this game. If you are going to put a price on people's time, that is a whole different topic/conversation. A person installing this game and playing and never spending any real money on it and getting anything in the game is free, I don't think many people would be playing this game if it wasnt free, also I get pretty high marks on critical thinking on my evaluations. I am just pointing out to people that complain about the costs being to high and the bosses to hard that they don't have to do them. I am pretty sure you can play the game for "free" and it is still enjoyable, I agree that your time is money, but I was referring to the subject "free" as in monetary usage.

You definately can play the game for free and have fun , I play free and building IPH and doing wars is fun for me anyway .

[Morgz]

No, actually a RPG attack during an 8 hour fire fight, while engaging the Taliban is what caused my injury.
thank you for your service, Marine007

[Morgz]

Still see a lot of people saying "it's only for elite players" and "not everyone should get it" -- but no one willing to say where the line is drawn for "elite" players or syndicates.

I'll throw my opinion out there: I think "elite" players are people who spend a lot of gold (more than a vault a cycle), and play in a top 100 syndicate and stay active.

Bar high enough? or should it be higher?

[t12pm]

Still see a lot of people saying "it's only for elite players" and "not everyone should get it" -- but no one willing to say where the line is drawn for "elite" players or syndicates.

I'll throw my opinion out there: I think "elite" players are people who spend a lot of gold (more than a vault a cycle), and play in a top 100 syndicate and stay active.

Bar high enough? or should it be higher?

More than a vault of gold a cycle and top 100 just don't go together

[B0ST0N]

You mean a vault per event or more

[Morgz]

Not sure I follow. You are saying an elite player is one who spends a vault of gold every event? Why would you do that? Event's like Epic Boss require zero gold. Street Assault required very little gold - just a fair amount of game cash.

t12pm: Why would vault of gold a cycle and top 100 not go together?

[Nighteg]

Epic Boss require zero gold - really? Wonder why i barely reached 70 with 40m cash atk.

[Champion24]

Epic Boss require zero gold - really? Wonder why i barely reached 70 with 40m cash atk.

Maybe zero gold with a strong mini account.

[Morgz]

I think probably 55/60 of my syn finished EB gold free. The level 250's have trouble (that HAS to be addressed), and the 201-249's had it tougher than some, but everyone under level 200 did fine. A few may have played a gold refill on boss 100, just because they didn't want to wait for energy refill.

My main is level 130, with 46 mil att. It's one of the weaker players on the team.
Yeah, everyone's mini under level 50 can finish in 2-3 days, never mind 6 days.

[t12pm]

Not sure I follow. You are saying an elite player is one who spends a vault of gold every event? Why would you do that? Event's like Epic Boss require zero gold. Street Assault required very little gold - just a fair amount of game cash.

t12pm: Why would vault of gold a cycle and top 100 not go together?

Don't use near a vault a cycle and meet all requirements of a top fifty team lucky to use a half vault if that, that why they don't go together or am I missing something

[Vasari]

You definately can play the game for free and have fun , I play free and building IPH and doing wars is fun for me anyway .

Truth. Once you get off the addiction treadmill the game can be quite fun. If you are spending a lot of money to get more and more annoyed it is safe to say your money could probably be better spent elsewhere.

[reticlover]

gree. this isnt modern war where even players in top 1000 are over 500 mill stats. need to reduce the ammount of raid boss health or add better prizes than 3% mafia attack

[hoene$$]

lol what a polemics...

[Mtl-514]

******* 100,000x more jumpers 100,000x more mad & frusted players.... ********

******************** Thx Gree ur are champion of .... ***********************

[Bartolo]

nbd, this is only 1 QA for Tam.

[B0ST0N]

I cant wait till next cycle when its 10.5 ;)

[Weasel]

I cant wait till next cycle when its 10.5 ;)

I hope it's closer to 16.5. That'll learn us.

[cooch]

Looks like 75-100 syns finished

[B0ST0N]

Looks like 75-100 syns finished

Out of our 3 family syns. 2 Finished :)

[Rickdee]

Out of our 3 family syns. 2 Finished :)


Yes probably with all 3 helping... takes 3 syndicate to finish one event.. That makes sense

[Dipstik]

1.5 syndicates in that example...

[Evan1000]

Looks like 75-100 syns finished

I VERY HIGHLY doubt this was at all the case. Top 20 finished.. don't ask how much money was spent.. the number still scares me. Also, 1 of our members quit and a few stepped down to lower ranked syns (one of them stepped down to a Top 800). So if 100 syndicates completed this event.. I'd be overly shocked.

[cooch]

Be shocked then.




I VERY HIGHLY doubt this was at all the case. Top 20 finished.. don't ask how much money was spent.. the number still scares me. Also, 1 of our members quit and a few stepped down to lower ranked syns (one of them stepped down to a Top 800). So if 100 syndicates completed this event.. I'd be overly shocked.

[Thugporn]

By now the community should understand that gree doesn't want you to complete an event unless you're willing to spend 100's if not 1000's on this game. The ironic thing here is that this game isn't even in 3d.

[Morgz]

Looks like 75-100 syns finished
How do you figure that? By the way, I can support the claim, just curious how you come to that conclusion or assumption.

FYI, the syn I'm playing in did finish. Ranked 70-80ish -- we'll see for sure this weekend, but I'm basing that on finishing in the 60's on the 24 hour war. We did have a fair amount of jumpers for the 100's

Another syn my mini is in did not finish, and that syn is 150-200 rank.

[Dipstik]

There's no reason war rank should have any connection to whether you finished the raid boss aside from the assumption that if you spend a lot of gold on one you probably spend a lot of gold on another.

[Evan1000]

There's no reason war rank should have any connection to whether you finished the raid boss aside from the assumption that if you spend a lot of gold on one you probably spend a lot of gold on another.

Not JUST gold spendage.. just being the keyword.. but stats overall. Almost all of our guys are over 100m in attack, our DL being 400m, and we couldn't finish without a ton of gold being spent.

[t12pm]

Not JUST gold spendage.. just being the keyword.. but stats overall. Almost all of our guys are over 100m in attack, our DL being 400m, and we couldn't finish without a ton of gold being spent.

I would have to say there was a participation issue then, as we are a top 50-75 team not all over 100 m attack and we finished with a ton of gold usage was a fair amount of help on 100's. What pisses me of is using a bunch of gold on refills to try for a stupid vest and end up not getting it

[Evan1000]

What pisses me of is using a bunch of gold on refills to try for a stupid vest and end up not getting it

Same for me except I got 5 of those vests.. But NO m240 .-.

[t12pm]

Same for me except I got 5 of those vests.. But NO m240 .-.

Got 10 of the 240's

[Weasel]

I did not end up getting the prize for 27/27, but that's ok. The event was fun and the challenge was a lot more interesting than knowing it would be a cakewalk from the start.

I did get the individual prize, but I found myself having to use refills chasing a common item in the dying minutes of the event. I found that a lot more fun than chasing a legendary item, and if I had been missing any legendaries I just wouldn't have used any gold and been happy to accept missing yet another prize. Goals that seem impossible are often very easy to ignore.

[t12pm]

I did not end up getting the prize for 27/27, but that's ok. The event was fun and the challenge was a lot more interesting than knowing it would be a cakewalk from the start.

I did get the individual prize, but I found myself having to use refills chasing a common item in the dying minutes of the event. I found that a lot more fun than chasing a legendary item, and if I had been missing any legendaries I just wouldn't have used any gold and been happy to accept missing yet another prize. Goals that seem impossible are often very easy to ignore.

Thought the event was better than the old cakewalk also, challenges are good but that will change if they keep raising it to much each cycle, it cuts down on all the slackers getting easy rewards that are not deserving also takes some strategy to know how long of breaks to take as to not need vaults of gold to finish

[pistol pete]

Not sure why this is even debated, Gree is trying to make money and will adjust the health according to how much they make. If they are raising the health every RB its because they are making more money not because they are making less, why would they adjust it to make less. If they made more money this RB compared to past RB's expect them to raise it again until they see a comparative lose or leveling off.