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Heidekraut
08-27-2014, 11:09 AM
Where is our blitz...3 three days in a row? You know because we don't have anything better to do...also hellfire for t25 again?

What's going on ��

Kangaroeland
08-27-2014, 11:16 AM
Hi im a lemon. Squeeze me for money

MacRicky
08-27-2014, 11:18 AM
Heide

Were did your info come from re 3 day.

If its another 3 day i will be taking a time out.

Heidekraut
08-27-2014, 11:23 AM
It's posted on android

MisterT
08-27-2014, 11:25 AM
Android gets info sooner then ios

Clementine
08-27-2014, 11:45 AM
Could you provide me some more feedback about why you dislike this event? Remember to be constructive and clear!

DK Zenith
08-27-2014, 11:58 AM
Could you provide me some more feedback about why you dislike this event? Remember to be constructive and clear!

Clementine, it isn't the event itself.

It's the fact that this is the third 3 day event in a row, immediately after an expensive war epic (Harlequin) and without the normal intermission of 24 hour fusion boost wars.

We have real lives too and some people use blitz wars to focus on other things. Not to mention the financial strain the immediate back to back events causes for people.

We don't want back to back 3 day events. Period.

ladyannie
08-27-2014, 11:59 AM
What the hell...a third 3 day eventin arow? I have nothing better to do than play KnD on weekends? Really GREE. I luv the online friends I have made through this game and they are why I have stuck with it...but if the intent is epic war ... raid... epic war...raid...repeat monthly...FML


nope I am outta here

Kangaroeland
08-27-2014, 12:00 PM
1) Hellfire again feels like an insult to me as I overspent last raid for that to cover your coders' mostakes
2) spenders need a break, regular users could use fusion boosts as they didnt get 1000 armors from raid bug
3) it feels like you are trying to squeeze out every cent from your spenders and this really angers me. -the sheer amount of bugs and mistakes
-the bugs not being fixed
- no new content
- bad customer support
- dissatisfying compensation
but instead
- no more blitz wars just 2 new epics every week
- buyable epics so people dont use free gems to get it?
- no 40 %sales
- 2x hellfire because it was expensive?
- gem events every week

This looks like your devs dont care for this game at all and honestly so many of my freinds and spenders retired already you are on the edge of killing the game for good.

Heidekraut
08-27-2014, 12:07 PM
I agree with the above, the event itself isn't the problem, it's the fact that it's the 3rd weekend in a row we are having a 3 day event, we were expecting a blitz this past weekend to recoup from the very expensive harlequin war and instead we ended up with a pretty expensive raid, again we were looking forward to a for sure blitz this weekend and yet again have a three day thrown at us. Give us a break, give us the blitz we are looking for to recoup.

Also, the raid just had hellfire as top25, why again? And please by all means if we are forced to have this 3 day event don't change the reward as maybe we can still possibly relax (as far as top25 goes).

Just seems poorly thought out with no regard to how we might feel

ladyannie
08-27-2014, 12:13 PM
Clementime,

Sorry...first response was my emotion.
My constructive criticism is this...

1. The alternating pattern of a 3 day event one weekend then a 1 day event the next weekend was managable from a personable time commitment perspective. Gave needed time away from game and for REAL LIFE.
2. Gree is now asking players to give up every weekend to a game particularly to remain in competitive top guilds you need to play to stay
3. This all requires money at the top levels t 25 & t10...which of course GREE knows and counts on. I personally cannot afford to spend on four 3-day events in KnD a month which is where it appears this game is heading. Or even three 3-day events if intent is to have one raid and one blitz a month.

BTW....what is the proposed rotation schedule? I think I may sit out until I know.

Rookeye
08-27-2014, 12:17 PM
I am burnt out.

Kanga pretty much nailed it for me, above.

I LOVE Guild War and I LOVE Raid; part of why I love them so much is I have some time to miss them. With 3-day events back-to-back, I am spending all my free time stressing on a game I normally enjoy. If there is repeatedly no down-time, I will forcibly unplug myself and make this next 3-Day event "not mandatory" for my entire Guild...a first in our history. :(

MacRicky
08-27-2014, 12:18 PM
Clementine

I am not able to devote the time and effort into a third three day battle in a row. I have made family comments based on an assumption that there would be a one day event.

Rather then ask why we object to this change a better question would be, why does GREE feel they need to make back to back to back three day Wars.

Looks like several of my guilds strongest knights also are not going to play.

NaturlBornKiller
08-27-2014, 12:28 PM
Totally agree on all the above!

It is nice to have an addictive time consuming game to play, but real life shouts for attention too, cut down the raid to a one day event, cause that gets boring too hitting same thing over and over again, banish the blitz and just go back to a 3 day war and a 1 dayraid

Heidekraut
08-27-2014, 12:29 PM
I know that many of the top paying players and guilds on iOS are also opting to sit out this war. Mostly just relax and go to "free to play" mode, we were honestly expecting a blitz after the back to back 3 day events. I also am heading more and more to retirement when I see the game going in this direction, it's not going to be as fun or enjoyable with 3 day wars 3x a month :-/

Rhaegal
08-27-2014, 12:30 PM
This is a big holiday weekend in the U.S. Most people have plans.... However, this could be an opportunity for some new names in the top 25.

DGO Aphrodite
08-27-2014, 02:22 PM
Ok, the above comments support everything I have to say about everything, but I feel obliged to post my own response aswell. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 3 day war after a raid, but when gem rewards have been diminished or let me rephrase that, they're almost non existant, through videos, the raid mess up, which was not the players fault, but we all get punished as a result of it, and the lack of gem sales..and now a chest which can be bought for fusion boost has pretty much shoved anyone who was once free to play in a corner, either quit, or pay..and as for the top guilds, I know these events are not light on the pockets, and personally I have lost 5 people who were constantly huge spenders, due to the lack of a break of spending, and more of a push to spend more. More power to those who can sit 3 days on a game every weekend and buy rainbows at only 20%, I don't down you at all, but I do believe this is getting out of control and has been for awhile now..if we would see progress as to where our money goes in this game, such as customer support actually supporting, and developers being more through to make it more smooth and less glitchable gameplay, I think the reaction may differ when tossed another weekend long event, also the rewards? Come on..Gree we are loyal, but you're pushing a mass away as the $ situation becomes more of a priority for you.

Rookeye
08-27-2014, 02:30 PM
One comment on the side:

I don't care if Raid is kept at 3-days; those who hit all the milestones early are free to walk. Not all of us are done in one-day. :) I just can't keep doing 3-day after 3-day after 3-day with no break in sight...

Ritchie
08-27-2014, 02:41 PM
Seriously? Hellfire for top 25 again? I thought the new up date said revamped rewards not recycled? Come on gree you guys can do better than that.....

Rhaegal
08-27-2014, 03:06 PM
One comment on the side:

I don't care if Raid is kept at 3-days; those who hit all the milestones early are free to walk. Not all of us are done in one-day. :) I just can't keep doing 3-day after 3-day after 3-day with no break in sight...

If I had fought hard for the raid war I'd agree but I basically plowed through a couple m points the first day and a half and then coasted the rest of the way so I feel "rested". Had I fought hard the whole time as some do, I'd be more than ready for a break.

Yongsan
08-27-2014, 03:24 PM
Most everyone nailed it with their comments for me.
It has traditionally been 1-day blitzes inbetween 3-day events. a Blitz was supposed be last weekend, following the Harlequin War which was was a record-setting, expensive war. Instead of the typical Blitz war, we were given the Xantico Raid, another 3-day event, which came as a surprise to the vast majority of players and distorted the plans of many guilds. Now with 2 hectic weekends in a row, we are given another Guild War. Like many have said, I like GWs. But 3 consecutive 3-day events in a row? We have real lives outside of these games. Free Play or Pay to play, playing these events is a big time commitment, along with it being a heavy financial strain for the paying players. 2 3-day events in a month has been expensive at least for me, but enjoyable. But 3 in a month is too much, let alone 3 consecutive 3-day events. I don't know what's going on, but this kind of trend and this kind of switch in schedule will kill this game, believe me.

Rookeye
08-27-2014, 04:22 PM
If I had fought hard for the raid war I'd agree but I basically plowed through a couple m points the first day and a half and then coasted the rest of the way so I feel "rested". Had I fought hard the whole time as some do, I'd be more than ready for a break.

I need a break due to a triplicate of back-to-back 3-day events, not 1 Raid. Heh ;)

Rhaegal
08-27-2014, 04:24 PM
Now here's the REAL question. Does this mean there are no more 1 day fusion wars?

Rookeye
08-27-2014, 04:25 PM
That's a very good question... GREE?

DGO Aphrodite
08-27-2014, 05:26 PM
Now here's the REAL question. Does this mean there are no more 1 day fusion wars?

Wondering if the fusion chest is the answer to that..guess we will see.

Sarah 101
08-27-2014, 05:40 PM
Your problem gree that you think the heavy numbers of gems with the players come from buying
Well it's not
There was 2 glitch one from video offer and another one from the ride :)
So stop trying to take every single gems from us , we are buy not use glitch

PG_GNight
08-27-2014, 06:17 PM
Could you provide me some more feedback about why you dislike this event? Remember to be constructive and clear!

This is too funny. It's obvious to everyone but the people developing the game? Do we really have to spell it out to you? Are you that out of touch with reality? No wonder you think $100 for a druidic is an exciting new feature or free fusion stones are an exciting incentive to open a 3x chest. I'm amazed you didn't throw in some free healing potions while you're at it! Those are still useful yea?

Smiley80
08-27-2014, 06:44 PM
It is the 3 consecutive 3 day wars. I have key people saying they wont be on this war. Please dont make it 4 in a row. I wont quit the game, but it is time consuming.

Rhaegal
08-27-2014, 07:10 PM
This is too funny. It's obvious to everyone but the people developing the game? Do we really have to spell it out to you? Are you that out of touch with reality? No wonder you think $100 for a druidic is an exciting new feature or free fusion stones are an exciting incentive to open a 3x chest. I'm amazed you didn't throw in some free healing potions while you're at it! Those are still useful yea?

Wow, that's uncalled for! Anyone can say, "I don't like xxxx" it takes some thought to put an idea forward to make something better. Clementine is taking the time to ASK for and read our ideas, and you want to squander your chance to influence the game in a positive way by mocking them.

Skrapz
08-27-2014, 07:17 PM
I f they want my money
1) fix the bugs
2) fix the customer support
All i ask, this isn't the way to go if you're trying to make a few extra bucks, i d planned to spend on the raid last week personally but then you took the gemms and keys away, what in the world makes you think i'll put money into this event, you're not deserving of it.

And i personally don't want to see blitz gone being in a guild that is "spend at will" we're mostly made of free to play people and it's nice to get some help leveling armor more quickly. I play criminal legacy as well and these teo games are identical, yet i haven't seen nearly the amount of bugs on there as on knd, just sayin' 😥

PG_GNight
08-27-2014, 07:41 PM
Wow, that's uncalled for! Anyone can say, "I don't like xxxx" it takes some thought to put an idea forward to make something better. Clementine is taking the time to ASK for and read our ideas, and you want to squander your chance to influence the game in a positive way by mocking them.

You completely missed the point. Asking this question is akin to asking us to describe why we don't like being punched in the face. The answer is so obvious it calls into doubt the ability of these people to turn this game back into an enjoyable experience and one that people actually want to spend money on. It makes you wonder if they've even played the game (it's becoming quite clear they don't actually beta test the game).

And please she isn't taking her time out of the goodness of her heart to ask for our ideas, she's getting paid to do it. Quite frankly the tone of my original comment only demonstrates how frustrated people are with this game right now. Every time they have the opportunity to improve the game, they blow it. One can only hope they are not planning to roll out this weekend this new war feature that will get you more points for attacking tougher opponents. Every promise they made in the latest update has failed miserably. Why would this be any different?

Rhaegal
08-27-2014, 08:06 PM
You completely missed the point. Asking this question is akin to asking us to describe why we don't like being punched in the face. The answer is so obvious it calls into doubt the ability of these people to turn this game back into an enjoyable experience and one that people actually want to spend money on. It makes you wonder if they've even played the game (it's becoming quite clear they don't actually beta test the game).

And please she isn't taking her time out of the goodness of her heart to ask for our ideas, she's getting paid to do it. Quite frankly the tone of my original comment only demonstrates how frustrated people are with this game right now. Every time they have the opportunity to improve the game, they blow it. One can only hope they are not planning to roll out this weekend this new war feature that will get you more points for attacking tougher opponents. Every promise they made in the latest update has failed miserably. Why would this be any different?

No, I didn't miss your point. I'm just trying to keep things positive. Keeping a civil dialogue between developer and user is essential for the continued health of the game. And frankly something that this game seems to be badly lacking.

There seems to be a giant disconnect between developer intent and user experience. If this is a first small baby step in an open dialogue, I'm all for it.

And while I'm aware she is paid to read and police the forum content, like most games, this is not just reading and policing and I'm hoping good things will come.

Fossil
08-28-2014, 06:54 AM
How about 2 day wars? Trying to war on Friday and Monday mornings suck. You should pull about the same or more revenue than the old 3-1-3-1 scheme

Scabs
08-28-2014, 07:32 AM
Yep, I'm checking to see if my guild wants to take this one off. Gree is sure doing their best to burn us out. How about having no weekend event once in a while? Sometimes you just need to give the players a break.

JNI
08-28-2014, 08:52 AM
Or how about you all complainers just keep a break, and let those who want to play, play.? :rolleyes: or is it a must for all the top guilds to be in their own positions at the end of each and every war? :confused:

Micro Destroy
08-28-2014, 09:01 AM
I'm out! :D

Kangaroeland
08-28-2014, 12:23 PM
Or how about you all complainers just keep a break, and let those who want to play, play.? :rolleyes: or is it a must for all the top guilds to be in their own positions at the end of each and every war? :confused:

Its easy to point fingers but hard to actually contribute constructive feedback.

Im amazed the t25 reward is still there. Thought it was a mistake to be honest.

Rookeye
08-28-2014, 03:14 PM
One man's "punch in the face" is another man's honest attempt at adjusting their glasses. Remember, Clementine is NEW here; I am not going to hold her personally responsible for every thing (big or little) I might think GREE has not done to my satisfaction.

I see GREE hiring someone who suits up, shows up, asks the questions, and has a sense of humor on the side. I'm a fan. Sorry if that sticks in anyone's craw... *adjusts glasses* ;)

tnorman78
08-28-2014, 03:22 PM
I like her....at least she attempts to communicate.

Sekta72
08-28-2014, 04:36 PM
Agree with all the comments, my guild have decided to give this 3 day war a miss as we have gone t10 in Carnival war and t25 in last weeks raid war and they have both been intense and expensive. We were all looking forward to a laid back blitz war this weekend.

Clementine, there needs to be a break in the 3 day war schedule as these wars can be really intense for the guilds that pay to play. Even if your not pushing for t25 or higher, you still need a reasonable amount of participation during the 3 days as top guilds have minimum requirements. With a blitz war you have most of the weekend off and then plan to focus on a one day war. This helps players to stay engaged and not be burnt out with focusing on an intense war for 3 whole days.

Remember Gree, real life happens for all players whether they pay to play or just starting off in this game. Don't kill knights and dragons by going this way.

MacRicky
08-28-2014, 04:42 PM
I like her too, as she pops in at the right times i.e. does not hide from the problem. only GREE can cure problem but she can see what we r concerned about and has a way to give our input to them.

Hope she knows that support chat rooms like this one are a bit like Hospital ERs; if you gage the health of the population by interviewing people in the ER you will not get a true reading. We may complain a lot buy we r a heathy bunch who mostly enjoy the game but like in the ER we want it to get better

Rookeye
08-28-2014, 05:29 PM
Good analogy...

I remember the Disneyland complaints dept approach: 1 written compliment or thank you was weighted the same as 10 complaints, because most happy people didn't bother to stop and write a note when everything was going well.

With that in mind: "THANK YOU, CLEMENTINE! I appreciate you listening, responding, looking into various issues I've asked about, and definitely your personality (lack of timidity, seasoned with humor). Please keep it up, and remember a Triage is NOT the whole world." :)


<-- unrepentant and blatant kiss-ass ;)

Rhaegal
08-28-2014, 06:43 PM
My guild briefly toyed with the idea of making a top 25 run, we've never made it but we got close for carnival war, but we are sitting out as well, we will free play this one. Too many ppl out for the holiday weekend and not enough time to borrow replacements from other guilds.

PG_GNight
08-28-2014, 07:08 PM
I like her too, as she pops in at the right times i.e. does not hide from the problem. only GREE can cure problem but she can see what we r concerned about and has a way to give our input to them.

Hope she knows that support chat rooms like this one are a bit like Hospital ERs; if you gage the health of the population by interviewing people in the ER you will not get a true reading. We may complain a lot buy we r a heathy bunch who mostly enjoy the game but like in the ER we want it to get better

Actions speak louder than words. Other than popping in from time to time to say hi we are aware of the problem and posting a meme, (s)he has done nothing to address any issues raised in this forum or explain what the team plans on doing to fix the issues with the game. Let's not be mistaken - (s)he is here as damage control to calm the masses. She is a representative of the game's developers since they wont come on here and deal with the issues head on. She speaks on their behalf and receives information on their behalf. But hey, if you love him/her that much, go ahead and show her some love by dropping $100 on that druidic.

tnorman78
08-28-2014, 07:55 PM
The only way to make the developers(gree) change their ways is for the top 25 teams that probably collectively spend 15k in gems for the wars is for those teams not to buy gems. When a company loses money like that they take notice. ..but since ego and Internet fame get in the way they won't.

duby1622
08-28-2014, 08:48 PM
I apologize for being a N00B, but let me get this straight:

You are complaining that you HAVE to (not really) spend money/time to (for basically no reason as most of you have maxed epic armor, other than pride) end up in one of the top guilds?

Is blocking other players from reeping the benefits of these wars that important to you? Grow the **** up.

I vote for 3 day wars every 3 days with no break EVER, and lets get some new blood toward the top every once in a while you all take a break and live real life.

PG_GNight
08-28-2014, 08:49 PM
The only way to make the developers(gree) change their ways is for the top 25 teams that probably collectively spend 15k in gems for the wars is for those teams not to buy gems. When a company loses money like that they take notice. ..but since ego and Internet fame get in the way they won't.

Yup yup yup

Skrapz
08-28-2014, 11:00 PM
I apologize for being a N00B, but let me get this straight:

You are complaining that you HAVE to (not really) spend money/time to (for basically no reason as most of you have maxed epic armor, other than pride) end up in one of the top guilds?

Is blocking other players from reeping the benefits of these wars that important to you? Grow the **** up.

I vote for 3 day wars every 3 days with no break EVER, and lets get some new blood toward the top every once in a while you all take a break and live real life.

Love this post

Rookeye
08-29-2014, 08:23 AM
Lol...may you score #1. I will be sipping something with an umbrella sticking out of it, by the pool. ;)

M c D
08-29-2014, 08:35 AM
I apologize for being a N00B, but let me get this straight:

You are complaining that you HAVE to (not really) spend money/time to (for basically no reason as most of you have maxed epic armor, other than pride) end up in one of the top guilds?

Is blocking other players from reeping the benefits of these wars that important to you? Grow the **** up.

I vote for 3 day wars every 3 days with no break EVER, and lets get some new blood toward the top every once in a while you all take a break and live real life.

Could not have said this any better myself...the sense of entitlement from some individuals in this forum boggles the mind

SBBL Indigo
08-29-2014, 08:59 AM
Could not have said this any better myself...the sense of entitlement from some individuals in this forum boggles the mind

Are you guys in top guilds? I’m guessing not. Even if you aren’t pushing yourself you still have responsibility to your guild members and your alliance. It isn’t just about fighting the war itself, I’m sure many senior players would agree that this game is like a full-time job. I genuinely spend more time sorting KnD stuff out than I do on my real life job that pays for my gems lol

My guild is part of a trio which did T10 harlequin war (very expensive) and then our other 2 guilds did T25 for the raid (again very expensive). We still have to manage over 100 players, get them into guilds who are pushing and coordinate for our alliance. I think we all deserve a weekend off after back to back tough wars, not just financially but time-wise. Nothing to do with a sense of entitlement.

It’s just badwill towards their customers from Gree and the T25 hellfire reward AGAIN is a slap in the face. At least give people a decent sale in plenty of time for the war. When a game becomes more stress than enjoyment what is the point? Give us a break Gree we’re burnt out and sick of this!

M c D
08-29-2014, 09:20 AM
Are you guys in top guilds? I’m guessing not. Even if you aren’t pushing yourself you still have responsibility to your guild members and your alliance. It isn’t just about fighting the war itself, I’m sure many senior players would agree that this game is like a full-time job. I genuinely spend more time sorting KnD stuff out than I do on my real life job that pays for my gems lol

My guild is part of a trio which did T10 harlequin war (very expensive) and then our other 2 guilds did T25 for the raid (again very expensive). We still have to manage over 100 players, get them into guilds who are pushing and coordinate for our alliance. I think we all deserve a weekend off after back to back tough wars, not just financially but time-wise. Nothing to do with a sense of entitlement.

It’s just badwill towards their customers from Gree and the T25 hellfire reward AGAIN is a slap in the face. At least give people a decent sale in plenty of time for the war. When a game becomes more stress than enjoyment what is the point? Give us a break Gree we’re burnt out and sick of this!

Here's a novel concept...take some time away from the game and de-stress...for your personal health and well-being. Sure sounds like you need to.

The sense of entitlement comment is to these so-called top guild leaders...quit your complaining and whining already. "We spent so much on the last war"..."I need more time on the weekends"..."The rewards are unfair". Boo-hoo. Get a life...GREE does not control yours...or does it?!?

Smiley80
08-29-2014, 03:50 PM
Wow 2350 views in 48hrs, you can tell this topic got people looking. Its not just the regulars.

Conflipper
08-29-2014, 05:20 PM
Blitz would have been great.

Rookeye
08-29-2014, 05:54 PM
Blitz would have been great.

...because....? ;)

Dianish
08-29-2014, 08:33 PM
...because....? ;)

We just had a 3 day war, 3 day raid and now another 3 day war. Thats why a blitz would have been perfect.

I even left CK for the war. Im tired of wars... They should never have been that frequent.

Also, its tiresome. Raid is great and fun because of the milestone rewards(IMO way better than war)

Skrapz
08-29-2014, 08:41 PM
Are you guys in top guilds? I’m guessing not. Even if you aren’t pushing yourself you still have responsibility to your guild members and your alliance. It isn’t just about fighting the war itself, I’m sure many senior players would agree that this game is like a full-time job. I genuinely spend more time sorting KnD stuff out than I do on my real life job that pays for my gems lol

My guild is part of a trio which did T10 harlequin war (very expensive) and then our other 2 guilds did T25 for the raid (again very expensive). We still have to manage over 100 players, get them into guilds who are pushing and coordinate for our alliance. I think we all deserve a weekend off after back to back tough wars, not just financially but time-wise. Nothing to do with a sense of entitlement.

It’s just badwill towards their customers from Gree and the T25 hellfire reward AGAIN is a slap in the face. At least give people a decent sale in plenty of time for the war. When a game becomes more stress than enjoyment what is the point? Give us a break Gree we’re burnt out and sick of this!

I've played it since i think shortly after legendary armors became EB prizes, and have never thought of it as a full time job, the day it gets like that I'm done with it. There is no reason at all to try and constantly run T25 or T10 every single time other than for reasons stated above, no one is forcing you to be on the game all weekend every 3 day war aside from you. You can take time off and it'll still be here

And no, i'm not in a top guild, i'd rather enjoy a game rather than be playing cuz i "have to". It's more fun to play it and enjoy the friendships than to always HAVE to be at the top, at least to me, no one cares or ever will who is best cuz this isn't COD or something

SBBL Indigo
08-30-2014, 03:49 AM
That's the point, it IS fun that's why we do it but my issue is with Gree and their constant money grabbing attitude and lack of thought for the community. As I say, even if we aren't fighting we still have to manage the other players.

Don't even get me started on this new war setup. More points for fighting stronger players? But you hit gm wearing maxed epics 4 times then start getting lower points? So have to fight commanders etc? Where is the logic? This adds nothing to the game play except to make people spend more to hit the minimum points they committed to.

Heidekraut
08-30-2014, 01:40 PM
Lol if the top guilds decide to quit and top players/spenders stop playing---there won't be a game for you free to play to enjoy. Our money is what helps them to keep the game updated up and going and new armors out every week--but sure you want us to stop playing so we can stop complaining that sounds like it'll help us all :) if that's the case, enjoy the game while it lasts and start looking for another game while your at it.

Skrapz
08-30-2014, 02:21 PM
I doubt top players missing one 3 day war will cause them to shut the game down, and as far as these updates and new armors, maybe they should work on the bugs a little more instead, happy customers buy more product

Heidekraut
08-30-2014, 08:35 PM
I wasn't referring to quiting 1 3 day war...if they plan to do 3 3 day wars a month...most of the top spenders are looking at retirement...forgo big part of grees income

Rookeye
08-30-2014, 11:20 PM
...on this new war setup. More points for fighting stronger players? But you hit gm wearing maxed epics 4 times then start getting lower points? So have to fight commanders etc? Where is the logic? This adds nothing to the game play except to make people spend more to hit the minimum points they committed to.

I thought the point was to force people to hit multiple targets (if they wanted to keep getting higher points), and not just repeatedly farm 1-2 enemy players? Made sense to me...

tnorman78
08-31-2014, 08:36 AM
I've been getting 400+ points from commanders. I hit my minimum points the second day. I have no complaints.

sxespanky
08-31-2014, 08:44 AM
i dont understand... who is forcing you all to fight every war. take a break on your own accord. the game will be there when you get back.

tnorman78
08-31-2014, 10:38 AM
i dont understand... who is forcing you all to fight every war. take a break on your own accord. the game will be there when you get back.
It will also allow those of us with shallower pockets to pickup a shiny new epic.

Heidekraut
08-31-2014, 03:29 PM
Here's an idea--the forum is here for whoever has something to say about the game to do so--you can express the like for all the 3 days myself and others can express our dislike for all the 3 days--no one forced you to come read our complaints/thoughts on this 3rd three day war

Rhaegal
08-31-2014, 08:46 PM
I had high hopes that when it said "new guild war point calculations! Get more points for beating stronger opponents." That it would mean exactly that. Instead what it meant was, less points for repeatedly hitting the same target over and over. Now I know this has helped a lot of new players and that's great because they can get 400 points instead of 200-225 per hit.

But what this has really done is the following:
1) you have to hit more targets. Greater chance of a loss if you don't know what the targets line up is before you hit.
2) slowed down the war for ppl who gem and don't strip because you're constantly changing armors to adjust to new targets. The flip side is better points for changing targets.
3) points have absolutely nothing to do with strength. You get the same points beating a level 11 guy with 2* armors as you do a level 50000000 guy with 5+ epics. True some ppl seem to have a slightly higher base value but it doesn't seem to be tied to strength.
4) can't believe I'm saying this but, forces stripping guilds to use MORE gems. Yes they can clock a GM 4x a minute instead of twice a minute for non strips... But the points bottom out. They can kill everyone in a stripped guild and bottom out the points and then..... Stuck getting about 300 from stripped gm...
5) forces everyone to use more gems. Beating a gm before used to give 400-500 pts with bonuses. Now since even commanders give 400 points for a first hit it's more level.... Which again is good for newbie and low level players. Not so good for established players.

Someone had started a thread about how chests were false advertising... Which they aren't... But this is blatant false advertising. Beating a stronger commander gives you nothing extra, except the greater chance of rampant missing turning a win into a loss.

So what was this "revamped war points" all about? Gems! And how to squeeze even more gems out of players....which means more $$$.

Gaanon
08-31-2014, 09:12 PM
Still trying to figure out what the heck that meant. Before, as a GM I saw my guys hitting the same guy I was and in some cases getting double the points? WTH? Now, ok, it LOOKS like points are even, but to get 400+ for a regular? No, haven't had the time or the energy to even try and analyse it.

As for the schedule: I'd just like a little bit of consistency here. Yup, expected a FFB after the last 3 day AND AGAIN after the EBR. Didn't happen. No, not a T25 guild. Not even a T100, but we're ok with that. But I'll tell you, it's hard to keep the motivated players motivated, when others are burnt out.

What do I want? It's already been said. Some sort of consistency would be nice. Yeah, I know you guys are going to be testing things out from time to time. Different chests, different schedules, fine. Just something to be consistent here.

Bugs: How about some sort area of the forum to post the various bugs, split between iOS and Android. Developers or Clementine could post the status, what's the priority, estimated time to complete, when it's been submitted to the Play or App Store. Give us SOMETHING so we don't think we're being ignored. Put a second tab in the "News" feed (that I close as soon as it opens up most of the time) with information on bugs and other serious issues.

Sorry, I don't take this game as seriously as some of the T25 guilds...just not worth my time or money. And to be honest, until Gree takes it seriously, I won't. Have I bought gems before, yup. Can't promise I won't do it again...just a matter of disposable income and the proper motivation. I've been playing for over a year, and it's getting frustrating seeing some of these targets get moved just as you're about to reach them. It's frustrating when you see the guaranteed rewards for a special chest are likely going to be worth more than what you actually get from the chest.

sxespanky
09-01-2014, 08:21 AM
Here's an idea--the forum is here for whoever has something to say about the game to do so--you can express the like for all the 3 days myself and others can express our dislike for all the 3 days--no one forced you to come read our complaints/thoughts on this 3rd three day war

no one is forcing you to do 3 3day wars either. i still don't see your problem. if you cant "afford" 3 wars in a row, tell your guild to sit one out, there are other plays who would love to get some epics. you dont have to win every single one of them. i understand you guys are single handedly funding this game, but I'm sure they have enough cash in pocket for you to not spend in one war.


So what was this "revamped war points" all about? Gems! And how to squeeze even more gems out of players....which means more $$$.

this is grand - its so you can't farm the GM for an hour and expect great points. it means you ACTUALLY have to play the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

bullseyed
09-01-2014, 08:51 AM
Personally, I don't think Gree should be allowed to sell gems until they fix the video offers button. Guess we have to go petition Google.

B Legit
09-01-2014, 09:13 AM
Personally, I don't think Gree should be allowed to sell gems until they fix the video offers button. Guess we have to go petition Google.

The video button is not broken. It's is an intentional function that it disappears, there is another thread Clementine commented on verifying this.

sxespanky
09-01-2014, 09:33 AM
The video button is not broken. It's is an intentional function that it disappears, there is another thread Clementine commented on verifying this.

yep - you either - used up your videos, or have abused it using means you know your not suppose to use >.<

tnorman78
09-01-2014, 01:22 PM
So what's this weekends 3 day event?? Another war?? Raid boss??

Rookeye
09-01-2014, 03:03 PM
Something, long, involved and most-likely requiring oodles of gems...

Rhaegal
09-01-2014, 03:57 PM
this is grand - its so you can't farm the GM for an hour and expect great points. it means you ACTUALLY have to play the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

I don't need the link thanks, took 5 seconds to figure out... Hope the link helped you though.

So it's great that your level and armors vs the level and armors of the opposing knight doesn't matter at all for points?

And it's great that it doesn't even matter IF the opposing knight is even wearing armor?

And it's absolutely fantastic that this was advertised as " Revamped Guild War Points! fight stronger opponents get more points!" When what it really means IS "revamped guild war points fight and get continually diminishing points!"

I do "play the game." I like running into a knight with stacked armor and figuring out a way to win. I do not like clobbering weak players just to get easy points. Where's the fun in that? How is that anymore "playing the game" than facing knights comparable to my level? But hey maybe some people enjoy getting big points beating up little guys.....

As for the war schedule, I'm not a fan of constant 3 day events as I've said before. Bring back the blitzes!!

Rookeye
09-05-2014, 07:05 AM
Anyone know what we're getting this weekend? Blitz, or...?

Smiley80
09-05-2014, 08:06 AM
Maybe nothing... I don't remebering a bye week in a very long time! Usually android get the news first, us simple iOS people are always the last to know :(

tnorman78
09-05-2014, 10:10 AM
Lol...I'm on DROID and we are in the dark too.

Scabs
09-05-2014, 11:01 AM
Blitz announced for this weekend.

sxespanky
09-06-2014, 09:07 AM
Blitz announced for this weekend.

Puh-Raise Jee-Sus the gem spenders get a weekend off.