[LTB] Blotto's Bar and Grill

[Muj]

Blotto's Bar and Grill
12HR Collection Period
A Type Bldg

Building Payout (0% bonus)

1 58,366
2 175,098
3 350,196
4 583,660
5 875,490
6 1,284,052
7 1,809,346
8 2,451,372
9 3,210,130
10 4,377,450

Upgrade Cost (0% Discount)

1 9,000,000
2 15,030,000
3 25,100,100
4 41,917,167
5 70,001,670
6 116,902,787
7 195,227,654
8 326,030,188
9 544,470,405
10 909,265,577

Upgrade Cost (30% Discount)

1 9,000,000
2 10,521,000
3 17,570,070
4 29,342,017
5 49,001,169
6 81,831,951
7 136,659,358
8 228,221,132
9 381,129,284
10 636,485,904
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* If you have (50% Syn Building Output bonus + 6% Individual) + 10% Tycoon Bonus (=66%), multiply building output by (1.716) and you'll get your boosted output.

[pksmile]

How to get 30% discount on upgrade cost?

[sister morphine]

How to get 30% discount on upgrade cost?
Was a modifier on a previous event prize.

[Joe bananas]

It was a prize for the first pvp event, and before that it was a LTQ prize?

Thanks muj.

[Evan1000]

* If you have (50% Syn Building Output bonus + 6% Individual) + 10% Tycoon Bonus (=66%), multiply building output by (1.716) and you'll get your boosted output.

Where'd that 6% individual come from?

[Im Jahova]

Where'd that 6% individual come from?

I don't know where they came from but I have two items that both give me 3%. A lot of people have them

[Evan1000]

I don't know where they came from but I have two items that both give me 3%. A lot of people have them

Oh, that'd be a cool mod to have, too bad mods (especially for the battle prizes) utterly suck now.

GREE actually got me excited when I saw a -1% bank fee reduction mod and was expecting/hoping for more cool mods like those.. Next battle the mods plummet to a measly +4% defense mod. Where did that come from?

[Nighteg]

Awful LTB. Awful reward.

[Im Jahova]

Awful LTB. Awful reward.

I agree. They should make two LTBs. A cheap one and an expensive one. I'm sure they can work out the rewards

[Nighteg]

I agree. They should make two LTBs. A cheap one and an expensive one. I'm sure they can work out the rewards

Yep. That have been suggested here for a long time. Would solve all the problems.

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

It's all good. Third ltb in a row I'll be skipping. I should have my teahouses to level ten this cycle. Win win for me! Awful prizes too.

[1Shot]

Very cheap LTB. I can afford to get this one up to level 9 ;-)

[Im Jahova]

Very cheap LTB. I can afford to get this one up to level 9 ;-)

If only they would let you finish them for free

[Better At Life Than You]

I agree. They should make two LTBs. A cheap one and an expensive one. I'm sure they can work out the rewards

Hmmm. Suggesting better rewards. Is that crying or whining?

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

honestly, the building is reward enough. normally. its the only way gree has managed to update building offerings really. otherwise, wed probably be maxed out on the normal buildings in the store.

[Im Jahova]

Hmmm. Suggesting better rewards. Is that crying or whining?

Incorrect, I never requested better rewards.

Maybe you should re-read what I have said and if you are smart enough, you might be able to understand what I was talking about.

[Better At Life Than You]

Incorrect, I never requested better rewards.

Maybe you should re-read what I have said and if you are smart enough, you might be able to understand what I was talking about.

Suggesting 2 ltb is not better rewards during ltb period? The fact that there would be an extra ltb is suggesting more rewards.

[Im Jahova]

Suggesting 2 ltb is not better rewards during ltb period? The fact that there would be an extra ltb is suggesting more rewards.

I see you have failed to understand what I said.

Yes I said they should make two LTBs (not for rewards). I wouldn't expect them to make two separate rewards, that is why I said that I am sure they could work out the rewards.

Good try though.

[Better At Life Than You]

I see you have failed to understand what I said.

Yes I said they should make two LTBs (not for rewards). I wouldn't expect them to make two separate rewards, that is why I said that I am sure they could work out the rewards.

Good try though.

"They should make two LTBs" that's a suggestion. Who makes a suggestion not expecting better results? So you make a suggestion just to make one with no intent to gain from it. Brilliant!

[Im Jahova]

"They should make two LTBs" that's a suggestion. Who makes a suggestion not expecting better results? So you make a suggestion just to make one with no intent to gain from it. Brilliant!

You need some help.

The suggestion was to make two LTBs. One cheap, (for people with low IPH) one expensive (for people with high IPH).

The intent to gain from it would be... People with high IPH would be able to substantially increase their income much better with something with a better payout thus making them happy with the LTB.

The people with low IPH would also be able to increase their income with the cheap LTB that they can afford thus making them happy as well.

I could care less about the rewards, that is why I never mentioned better or more rewards.

Need I explain more to you or are you going to keep trying whatever it is you are trying.

[Better At Life Than You]

You need some help.

The suggestion was to make two LTBs. One cheap, (for people with low IPH) one expensive (for people with high IPH).

The intent to gain from it would be... People with high IPH would be able to substantially increase their income much better with something with a better payout thus making them happy with the LTB.

The people with low IPH would also be able to increase their income with the cheap LTB that they can afford thus making them happy as well.

I could care less about the rewards, that is why I never mentioned better or more rewards.

Need I explain more to you or are you going to keep trying whatever it is you are trying.

Low IPH players are happy you're thinking of them. Great job. You're an outstanding crime city citizen. You get my vote for key to the city.

[Im Jahova]

Low IPH players are happy you're thinking of them. Great job. You're an outstanding crime city citizen. You get my vote for key to the city.

Very well. Are you done?

[Better At Life Than You]

Very well. Are you done?

Don't want the key? How about a holiday?

[Im Jahova]

Don't want the key? How about a holiday?

Once again, are you done?

[Zeus66]

Awful LTB. Awful reward.

+1
Better looking than the one before but yes.

[Better At Life Than You]

Once again, are you done?

Damn! Still not satisfied? My final offer a sandwich named after you. Im J.alapenos a.vacado h.am o.nions v.vinegar a.american cheese.

[HavingFun]

Low IPH players are happy you're thinking of them. Great job. You're an outstanding crime city citizen. You get my vote for key to the city.
Could a mod please change this person's name to Epic Fail in Life. Thanks in advance.

[Better At Life Than You]

Could a mod please change this person's name to Epic Fail in Life. Thanks in advance.

Good one. Gotta get you booked for David Letterman

[Im Jahova]

Could a mod please change this person's name to Epic Fail in Life. Thanks in advance.

I'm glad you understand

[-Batman-]

Well I am happy. Cheap LTB means can get it higher probably to a 9 and will get chance to donate to syndicate with not laying so much out. Plus my defence is slightly lower than attack so will boost that up.

[cynicalmofo]

Well I am happy. Cheap LTB means can get it higher probably to a 9 and will get chance to donate to syndicate with not laying so much out. Plus my defence is slightly lower than attack so will boost that up.

Interesting logic but by the time you've upgraded this to level 10, it'll take around 3 years to start paying for itself without mods.

[sborgnanera]

Thx for the figures
=> is there anyone who know what is the reward when you reach level 10 ?



Blotto's Bar and Grill
12HR Collection Period

Building Payout (0% bonus)

1 58,366
2 116,732
3 204,281
4 321,013
5 466,928
6 642,026
7 846,307
8 1,079,771
9 1,342,418
10 1,750,980

Upgrade Cost (0% Discount)

1 9,000,000
2 15,030,000
3 25,100,100
4 41,917,167
5 70,001,670
6 116,902,787
7 195,227,654
8 326,030,188
9 544,470,405
10 909,265,577

Upgrade Cost (30% Discount)

1 9,000,000
2 10,521,000
3 17,570,070
4 29,342,017
5 49,001,169
6 81,831,951
7 136,659,358
8 228,221,132
9 381,129,284
10 636,485,904
-------
* If you have (50% Syn Building Output bonus + 6% Individual) + 10% Tycoon Bonus (=66%), multiply building output by (1.716) and you'll get your boosted output.

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

the reward is the satisfaction of having it fully maxed out!!! and the same lame defense mod you get at every other level. no grand prize.

[sborgnanera]

thx a lot !
so this is the worse LBT i have ever met...

[Winnson]

Are there no rewards for this LTB?

I see the cost, upgrade cost, and payout here, but no rewards for leveling or fully upgrading it.

[hellfirecc]

If only they would let you finish them for free

Totally agree. Makes no sence to upgrade if one can't finish it. The output and price is crap. Good for low lvl IPH ppl.

[hellfirecc]

Interesting logic but by the time you've upgraded this to level 10, it'll take around 3 years to start paying for itself without mods.

This payback counts for every building. A high lvl building if cheap or expensive will give you a payback in years. Upgrading is just for fun, not for payback.

[cynicalmofo]

This payback counts for every building. A high lvl building if cheap or expensive will give you a payback in years. Upgrading is just for fun, not for payback.

Not sure what your point is. The reply was to the guy who said he liked the cheap LTB because he can get it to level 9 and donate more.

Only worth doing if you want the mod IMO

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

Makes no sence

makes no cents*

[-Batman-]

Not sure what your point is. The reply was to the guy who said he liked the cheap LTB because he can get it to level 9 and donate more.

Only worth doing if you want the mod IMO

I have a good IPH at almost 16m so a cheap LTB for once means I will have more income to bank and donate to my syndicate so looking after my members and buy bonuses. Plus my def is slightly lower by a few million than my attack so the rewards will hopefully get it a bit even. Not fussed about recouping the costs of the upgrades it's not like it's mega money. TBH just upgraded a Tsar to lvl 9 and that will probably takes years to recoup and doesn't come with a reward now

On another note good to meet another UK player buddy

[smokey77]

these building imo should be something a bit special and priced accordingly . i missed out on loads of them until i could afford them . maybe having two ltbs is a good idea . and its so lazy recycling old buildings !!

[Winnson]

Item for building/leveling it is Midnight Special - Explosive
-20,689K Attack / 25,286 Defense
- +1% Melee Defense

[Morgz]

Has anyone mentioned the footprint size of this building? I'm waiting for second NC to finish building out -- just need to know if it's another snack attack or fireworks building that takes half a city block, or is it small like the shooter gunshop and tatoo place?

[sourhed]

It is the same size as the sports bar.

[Im Jahova]

Has anyone mentioned the footprint size of this building? I'm waiting for second NC to finish building out -- just need to know if it's another snack attack or fireworks building that takes half a city block, or is it small like the shooter gunshop and tatoo place?

The size is 6x6

[Morgz]

thx sourhed and Im Jahova

sounds like it's reasonably sized

[Morgz]

edit: double post

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

and its so lazy recycling old buildings !!
Silence!!! You want a&f creating another 40x40 monstrosity?

[Blaggard]

Looks like this is the first type A LTB since the Pagoda. It has re-piqued my interest!

[Muj]

Looks like this is the first type A LTB since the Pagoda. It has re-piqued my interest!
Thx for the update will change post

[Im Jahova]

Silence!!! You want a&f creating another 40x40 monstrosity?

Lol that was a nightmare. They could still make a different looking building that's small.

[Nighteg]

It's a type A?

[Sleazy_P_Martini]

I have it on good authority that gree lost the type a building algorithm.

[Benjibbks5]

This LTB is confirmed to be a type A.

[I Love Money]

I love money

[M15]

I have it on good authority that gree lost the type a building algorithm.


This LTB is confirmed to be a type A.

Your credibility just suffered a major blow Sleazy ;). Check your sources bro :p

[Miss Soprano]

I agree. They should make two LTBs. A cheap one and an expensive one. I'm sure they can work out the rewards

That would be sweet but we all know gree...

[Im Jahova]

That would be sweet but we all know gree...

It will come eventually

[cooch]

Beats the new hot dog stand. What's that about?

[Im Jahova]

Beats the new hot dog stand. What's that about?

Lol I didn't even notice that

[killerbee]

this is a type A building correct me if im wrong but it has the best return on investment of all the LTB's Iv seen so far even though its low IPH it still gives you far faster return on investment "like the night club but 12 hour pick ups and much lower hourly rate"

[Dipstik]

Return on Investment? OMG that's SOOOO 2012...

[Perin]

Just buy em, upgrade em and move on.

[aarondavidsdad]

Does the upgrade need to be finished by the time the quest is finished to get the prize or does the upgrade just need to be started?

[Vile Lynn]

Does the upgrade need to be finished by the time the quest is finished to get the prize or does the upgrade just need to be started?

You need to have the upgrade completed to get the reward.

[aarondavidsdad]

Thanks Lynn

[Vile Lynn]

Anytime :)