Rogue Gardens - LTB

[Euchred]

The building I've been waiting for, running numbers.. Might take a bit haven't had to do this in a while.

http://i.imgur.com/Dry8DiWl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bMNPAZfl.jpg

Unmodded Times

1. 24
2. 27
3. 39
4. 47
5. 55
6. 63
7. 71
8. 79
9. 87
10. 95

Unmodded Payouts

1. 17,647
2. 35,294
3. 61,765
4. 97,059
5. 141,176
6. 194,117
7. 255,882
8. 326,470
9. 405,881
10. 529,410

Modded costs.. around 63% cheaper

1. 450,000
2. 239,652
3. 335,512
4. 503,268
5. 805,239
6. 1,449,412
7. 2,898,824
8. 6,087,530
9. 13,392,567
10. 30,802,902

[Crazy Canuck]

Woohoo finally a good money building!

[Crazy Canuck]

Just seen boost on unit for upgrading to 10 can't say I like. Think I hurts a player more then helps

[GetItFixed]

And the best.... Since war is only 10 days away, the time of tze quest is 5 days shorter as well. Needless to say you have to spend gems to get it done, or by having great upgrade time reduction boosts. Well done , Gree.:rolleyes:

[betsyB]

wtf? war in 10 days, i didn't notice that .... arggggh

[Valid or]

Hmm, if we all have different discount on build cost, why are we all getting 450k?

[GetItFixed]

Cause boost isn t working....Surprise;)

[Jnsolberg]

The un modified cost to build the Rogue Gardens is 500,000. The only reduction in building cost is your Lumber Mill. A level 10 lumber Mill saves you 10%, or 50,000.
Your other cost reductions are only for upgrades.

[Valid or]

The un modified cost to build the Rogue Gardens is 500,000. The only reduction in building cost is your Lumber Mill. A level 10 lumber Mill saves you 10%, or 50,000.
Your other cost reductions are only for upgrades.
Yep, then we need a new building for it. Thought there might have been a unit or 2 with it on it, but couldn't remember.

[Just4fun]

By any chance anyone have the upgrade cost?

[GetItFixed]

Ur right i confused it with building construction bonus.

[Euchred]

By any chance anyone have the upgrade cost?

I would garanteed screw it up so I'm not going to bother, I'll update with my own numbers as I go. Not going to be cheap though, I think the witch lair cost about this much and it's L9 and L10 upgrades are 11.15 million and 22.3 million with a -59% cost bonus and L10 mill

[Euchred]

Just seen boost on unit for upgrading to 10 can't say I like. Think I hurts a player more then helps

Just finally saw it myself and updated the first post with it. I'll only be going to L9 until the events over.

[GetItFixed]

Wow, what a classy new bonus. Another proof Gree has only a lil vlue about how this game is played. Players enjoy their 24h/48h high money bulding cause tzey can collect them to a certain time every day/or 2. with this useless boosts, collection time will change every time. Once again....Well Done Gree....:rolleyes:

[Crazy Canuck]

Just finally saw it myself and updated the first post with it. I'll only be going to L9 until the events over.
Same here, sure quicker collection is good cause can generate cash faster but 2 much downside as will result in hard to collect on time with constantly changing collections times. Not worth it IMO I like collecting at the same time every day

[Nacon10]

bonus should be 5% increase in building output

[KarenWill]

It's a 3d bldg.. Manors and even lenders are still better

[the_bob]

It's a 3d bldg.. Manors and even lenders are still better

Wrong. This building is the 3rd highest IPH building now, behind only the Manor and the Witch's Lair.

[Julius Wheezer]

The un modified cost to build the Rogue Gardens is 500,000. The only reduction in building cost is your Lumber Mill. A level 10 lumber Mill saves you 10%, or 50,000.
Your other cost reductions are only for upgrades.

Some units also give construction bonuses, e.g. Black Smoke Caster.

It isn't working - if you have one send a ticket.

Also, Temple Relic Wagon should give construction time bonus - not working...

[the_bob]

Wrong. This building is the 3rd highest IPH building now, behind only the Manor and the Witch's Lair.

Let me clarify this a little bit. Considering that the Witch's Lair is a 4 hour collection building that means that it's pretty much impossible (or at the very least impractical) that most people can collect it each time it's ready. this effectively kills it's IPH by as much as half. So in reality, the Rogue Gardens is only bested by the Manor.

That means realistically, it is the second best building in the game while the Lender keeps falling lower and lower. I wonder how long it will be before people who can't math will realize that the Lender is only a mediocre building now.

[GetItFixed]

You can wait for it forever. Most people playing KA are pretty bad when it comes to math, and other things as well. Sadly (for some) you can t buy brain with gems. :D

[Jnsolberg]

Originally posted by Julius Wheezer:

Some units also give construction bonuses, e.g. Black Smoke Caster.

It isn't working - if you have one send a ticket.

Also, Temple Relic Wagon should give construction time bonus - not working...

The Black Smoke Caster is -4% Building construction time and the Tempe Relic Wagon gives a -2% Building construction time boost. Not a cost boost.

[Toddahhhh]

Could a brotha get a upgrade cost table?

[Krayt]

Could a brotha get a upgrade cost table?

Nope, there are too many variables.

[Voxker]

oh boy, 3 day collect period, i hope it pays tons more than a manor lol.

[Julius Wheezer]

The Black Smoke Caster is -4% Building construction time and the Tempe Relic Wagon gives a -2% Building construction time boost. Not a cost boost.

Thank you for the correction, Jnsolberg, you are quite right, and I think they are even working.

I must curb my enthusiasm for saving money long enough to read the screen properly.

[Chief_K]

Are we able to purchase two of these buildings like most of the other income LTBs?

[Elendar]

Yes, I have two.

[GetItFixed]

Hacker....;) Just kidding.

[Chief_K]

Yes, I have two.

Where can I purchase the second from? It is not in my Money Building Store and since I have completed construction on the first I don't think it is in my quest list any longer.

[RandomUser]

Raw build/upgrade costs so far:

1. 500,000
2. 650,000
3. 910,000
4. 1,365,000

[Krayt]

Where can I purchase the second from? It is not in my Money Building Store and since I have completed construction on the first I don't think it is in my quest list any longer.


Should be in the money building section. It's where I found my second

[The red Baron]

It appears in the momey building after you have finished the construction of the first.

[Nacon10]

Is it possible to complete the quest within the time given ?

[VileDoom]

Is it possible to complete the quest within the time given ?

Anything is possible with a credit card. ;)

[GetItFixed]

Is it possible to complete the quest within the time given ?

When you and your guild have all upgrade time bonuses and you like to go OV into nxt war, it is possible. Otherwise. Not without gem speed up.

[the_bob]

Is it possible to complete the quest within the time given ?

Not even close. I don't think there have been enough time reduction bonus units around to get you there even with 10/10 guild bonus. You will need gems to finish, although the reward for 10/10 will probably be more of a problem than it is a help, nevermind the fact that it will cost something like 125 million gold (before bonuses) to get you to level 10 if my math was right.

[Toddahhhh]

Can't wait to raid one of those bad boys! :rolleyes:

[Euchred]

Updated the first post with some modded costs numbers from screenshots.


Can't wait to raid one of those bad boys! :rolleyes:

I've seen L10 payouts over 700k with mods. Can't imagine what those would payout with a nice raid bonus %

[the_bob]

I've seen L10 payouts over 700k with mods. Can't imagine what those would payout with a nice raid bonus %

Unmodded Level 10 payout: 529,410

0% Raid bonus: 529,410 * .6 = 317,646

50% Raid bonus: 317,646 * 1.5 = 476,469
100% Raid bonus: 317,646 * 2 = 635,292
150% Raid bonus: 317,646 * 2.5 = 794,115

My Raid bonus is 164% so for me: 317,646 * 2.64 = 838,585

[NY Bill]

I also don't think I'd even want this bonus for free. Your manors and lenders would always complete in the middle of the night if you have a regular sleep schedule.

[[DW] maretzky]

Not even close.

Why so, Amigo? I don't see any big issue with time. You can do it easily without gems if your bonus is around -40%. Remember that last lvl doesn't count in total time as you get reward after upgrade is being started - not finished...

But agree with you that cost might be a problem...

[sborgnanera]

I also don't think I'd even want this bonus for free. Your manors and lenders would always complete in the middle of the night if you have a regular sleep schedule.

+1

-5% is false for your long time pay out buildings : as you said, all of these buildings would be complete between 1 and 3 hours before you will be awaked, every day => -5% will not work anymore !
moreover, the probability to be raided will increase dramaticaly...

don't fully upgrade this building ! never !

[QuantumP 86]

+1

-5% is false for your long time pay out buildings : as you said, all of these buildings would be complete between 1 and 3 hours before you will be awaked, every day => -5% will not work anymore !
moreover, the probability to be raided will increase dramaticaly...

don't fully upgrade this building ! never !

You can fully upgrade this building after the quest is done lol. But let's say they keep giving out these bonuses to a point where it lines up very nicely once again (say a 50% reduction in output time). It might be inconvenient now if you are a good collector, but it has potential to be an amazing buff in terms of gold generation over time. On the other hand, if you are a bad collector then it's a great bonus for you!

[sborgnanera]

yes, you are absolutly right
ps : i am a good collector ;-)

[mmalkove]

I never remember to collect my damn manors on time anyway, I am going to go for it if I can do it for free, it will be tight.

[Voxker]

wtf it costs me well over 8million to upgrade to level 8... with a total of -54% building upgrade cost what the **** man

upgrade from 6 to 7 cost me around 3,6mil gold

upgrade from 7 to 8 will be costing me over 8,4mil

this isnt normal... something must be wrong

[Jnsolberg]

I wouldn't have minded this boost, but seeing as how level 10 costs me 32,737,700 It doesn't matter. Lol