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BrisingrBoss
06-26-2014, 10:24 AM
Boss Health
Tier 1 (L1-25):
Tier 2 (L26-50):
Tier 3 (L51-75): <28 Million
Tier 4 (L76-100): <60 Million
Tier 5 (L101-150): <119 Million
Tier 6 (L151-200): <230 Million
Tier 7 (L201-249): <330 Million
Tier 8 (L250): <1.25bil


Sorry im a bit late with info, i hope it helps for next Epic boss event. Also please post what I''m missing Ill update this post. Thanks


Obs: Tier is at the level you were at when boss event started, and you killed your first boss. so if you level up during event, your tier does not change

also, remember that this is based on your raw attack, not on your boosted attack.

Dipstik
06-26-2014, 10:43 AM
Hey gree... Remember when you said you were going to start rewarding people for playing, gaining experience, and leveling up? Will that be coming any time soon?

1Shot
06-26-2014, 10:47 AM
Level 250's have to spend around 2 vaults of gold hehe.

Nighteg
06-26-2014, 10:59 AM
Hey gree... Remember when you said you were going to start rewarding people for playing, gaining experience, and leveling up? Will that be coming any time soon?

I usually ignore most of this guy's trolling, but this is a very solid question. Any comments Tadaaah?

The_Don
06-26-2014, 12:00 PM
For all the 250s I know, EB is now pretty much an ignored event.

SpongeBob
06-26-2014, 12:26 PM
Tier 8 <350M?

Should say 800M+!

I hit with 103M with a FA and I need 9 FA hits to kill L100 boss!!!

namedud
06-26-2014, 12:29 PM
For all the instances where people like Jerle or CJ have stated Gree doesn't really support camping, I'd like to point out that the different tiers for epic bosses are still one of the main contributing factors to that counterintuitive play style.

There should be one boss tier for everyone. Stronger players would make it further into the event and weaker players would have a major incentive to level up and grow stronger.

These different tiers for different levels do nothing but discourage gaining XP, and it's totally backwards that players are rewarded for avoiding playing the game.

BrisingrBoss
06-26-2014, 12:44 PM
Tier 8 <350M?

Should say 800M+!

I hit with 103M with a FA and I need 9 FA hits to kill L100 boss!!!

I'm working with information given to me, as i dont have a level 250 account. im updating the post

Chuk
06-26-2014, 12:46 PM
They do that more so, to allow new players to catch up faster! Otherwise they are discouraged from playing!

SpongeBob
06-26-2014, 12:53 PM
I'm working with information given to me, as i dont have a level 250 account. im updating the post

It wasn't aimed at you, sorry if it sounded like that. It was aimed at the Greetards.....

Th3Maxx
06-26-2014, 03:44 PM
Epic boss's health is going to grow always more..i never used gold for this event but i fear that GREE will destroy also this...:(

xavvax
06-27-2014, 06:35 AM
Yea thats off, im lvl 141 a cash hit is 11.7m ive done 7 and boss still isnt down

kimberleyj
06-27-2014, 07:30 AM
Hey gree... Remember when you said you were going to start rewarding people for playing, gaining experience, and leveling up? Will that be coming any time soon?

well gree?. we all want this issue sorted. give us lvl 250's a reason to want to spend gold on other events. i think it is best i go gold free from now on seen as you took away a gold free event from us.

Baggler
06-27-2014, 11:19 AM
Tier 7 is closer to 270M

BrisingrBoss
06-27-2014, 11:24 AM
looks like they increased boss health from last event. i should have paid more attention while i was killing boss 100 last night on all my accounts... but thanks for the updates.

Benjibbks5
06-27-2014, 09:37 PM
Increasing boss health with the general stats inflation is ok. What's not ok is increasing it from 350m to 800m! This is too much...

bravo 6 vk
06-28-2014, 09:18 AM
Tier 5 boss was around 100mil (took 4x 22.8mil hits and a small free hit)

BrisingrBoss
06-28-2014, 09:42 AM
Tier 5 boss was around 100mil (took 4x 22.8mil hits and a small free hit)

edited to match

sportygeee
06-28-2014, 11:48 AM
Please forgive my early morning stupidity...
but what is a tier in the bosses?

Dipstik
06-28-2014, 11:56 AM
Different levels get stronger bosses.

d.k.
07-15-2014, 12:46 PM
Question for quick hitters, anyone can approve if the boss health is equal to last event or we got any changes?

Vile Lynn
07-15-2014, 01:25 PM
First time EB for one of my accts at L250....
*getting a tissue* I have an issue!

Please, raise the max level to L300 and make the EB health proportional to the other tiers for us L250s.

Raising the max level to L300 would bring new life into CC.
Make it a month-long contest to L300, like you have in the past: first 100 (or whatever) to L300 get an awesome unit with mod or something worthwhile.

I know it won't help us for this cycle, but making the L250 EB Tier reasonable like the other tiers would make all L250 players happier!

Happy players play more and spend more!

Dipstik
07-15-2014, 02:51 PM
Seriously... whose bright idea was it to make the prize for reaching level 250 a steel-toed kick in the balls?

Nighteg
07-15-2014, 03:28 PM
Seriously... whose bright idea was it to make the prize for reaching level 250 a steel-toed kick in the balls?

Whose bright idea was it to change the rivals list?
Whose bright idea was it to limit the max lvl at 250?
Whose bright idea was it to make atk/def mods the only reward for the masses?
Whose bright idea was it to ____________ (you can fill your own ridicule in here)?

That's how the term "greelogic" was invented!

namedud
07-15-2014, 03:34 PM
Whose bright idea was it to change the rivals list?
Whose bright idea was it to limit the max lvl at 250?
Whose bright idea was it to make atk/def mods the only reward for the masses?
Whose bright idea was it to ____________ (you can fill your own ridicule in here)?

That's how the term "greelogic" was invented!

I can't say for sure, but my guess is the answer to all these questions is "Crime City's product manager".

polly
07-16-2014, 01:16 PM
Basically the tier system says..

As soon as you hit level 250 you are now just a farming account because you can no longer compete in events like eb and you get bad scores in battle!

This is not rewarding the long time players!

If you want to create tiers, then create them for prizes rewarded, instead of how much harder it is to get bosses.
Even in horse racing where they handicap them, they try to make them come to the end together

Vile Lynn
07-16-2014, 01:28 PM
Funzio had tier-relevant rewards a long time ago. I guess GREE got lazy and now give all of the tiers the same rewards... pity.

I really wish they'd change the max level to 300.

is1j
07-16-2014, 06:54 PM
Question for quick hitters, anyone can approve if the boss health is equal to last event or we got any changes?
Yes, boss health is definitely up. During previous event i could kill boss 60 with one free hit. I am still in the same tier and a few million stronger but can only go to boss lvl 52 with one free hit. So I would say that boss is about 20-25% stronger this time than last time.

polly
07-16-2014, 08:24 PM
As it is, ltq does not give rewards that matter until you get to a level that would require gold because of regen time. So ltq is never worth doing because of xp

My2cents
07-17-2014, 01:33 AM
Gree doesn't like campers, but surely they have the game set up for it. I've been around for about 3 years and just hit level 90 today. Iph stands at $36.8M, and Atk/def at 22M each. I don't buy gold often and as they say...I'm a happy camper. Even with the rival list there isn't any incentive to hit others.

Tom78
07-17-2014, 04:22 AM
Boss Health
Tier 1 (L1-25):
Tier 2 (L26-50):
Tier 3 (L51-75): <26 Million
Tier 4 (L76-100): <39 Million
Tier 5 (L101-150): <100 Million
Tier 6 (L151-200): <158 Million
Tier 7 (L201-249): <270 Million
Tier 8 (L250): <800m

Tier 6 Boss took me 8cash hit 32.9m raw. L152 btw

cynicalmofo
07-17-2014, 04:51 AM
Gree doesn't like campers, but surely they have the game set up for it. I've been around for about 3 years and just hit level 90 today. Iph stands at $36.8M, and Atk/def at 22M each. I don't buy gold often and as they say...I'm a happy camper. Even with the rival list there isn't any incentive to hit others.

Gree insisted that the new rivals list made people attack more but what they failed to realize is that the only reason people attacked more was because Epic Bosses were so fu**ing hard to summon. No incentive for anyone with a half decent IPH to attack anyone.

Chris Boa
07-17-2014, 04:57 AM
They need to look at the tiers but they have known about it for ages and haven't bothered so...

Idiokus
07-17-2014, 06:51 AM
I'm not lvl 250 yet but find it very unjust that the lvl of dificulty to kill boss is not balanced. True what others stated above ...long time players getting penalized for enjoying game and playing! Don't get this major gap btw lvl 249 and 250 it's only one lvl above so why millions more health LOL . Peeps been complaining about this for ages!!! Would be nice if they listen to their loyal clients and make Epic Boss playable for lvl 250's .

Winnson
07-17-2014, 07:50 AM
I figure when I hit lvl 250 I'll quit the game for good.

KingOW
07-17-2014, 08:21 AM
OP's post is incorrect. Tier 6 (L151-200) = just around 230m health this time.

JGE23
07-17-2014, 09:42 AM
Any update on Boss Health of Tier 4 and Tier 5?

Vile Lynn
07-17-2014, 10:32 AM
I'm not lvl 250 yet but find it very unjust that the lvl of dificulty to kill boss is not balanced. True what others stated above ...long time players getting penalized for enjoying game and playing! Don't get this major gap btw lvl 249 and 250 it's only one lvl above so why millions more health LOL . Peeps been complaining about this for ages!!! Would be nice if they listen to their loyal clients and make Epic Boss playable for lvl 250's .

Thank you! very well said :)

bravo 6 vk
07-18-2014, 06:26 AM
Any update on Boss Health of Tier 4 and Tier 5?
Tier 5 seems to be around 103-105mil

Thatkidyouknow
07-18-2014, 01:51 PM
This is wrong the boss health for my level group which is 75-100, the bosses health at level 100 is upwards of 60m

Idiosyncrasy
07-18-2014, 03:36 PM
The main problem with using a level-based tiered boss health system is that it assumes high level = equally high stats. I know it's gree's way of punishing a player for playing so long and not reaching enormous stats, but the major stat inflation is only recent (< 1 year). Some of my lower level brethren have stats that are not far behind mine and they are flying through the EB, while it is substantially harder for me at level 152.

Sorry to whine, as I hate when people whine, but just adding my .02. As mentioned above, I feel sorry for the level 250 players who can't play the game properly because they played the game o_O. Sounds counter-intuitive still, doesn't it?

Nighteg
07-18-2014, 03:39 PM
The main problem with using a level-based tiered boss health system is that it assumes high level = equally high stats. I know it's gree's way of punishing a player for playing so long and not reaching enormous stats, but the major stat inflation is only recent (< 1 year). Some of my lower level brethren have stats that are not far behind mine and they are flying through the EB, while it is substantially harder for me at level 152.

Sorry to whine, as I hate when people whine, but just adding my .02. As mentioned above, I feel sorry for the level 250 players who can't play the game properly because they played the game o_O. Sounds counter-intuitive still, doesn't it?

It's not whining, it's making perfect sense. To everyone except gree.

fan139
07-18-2014, 06:41 PM
Tier 5 seems to be around 103-105mil

Tier 4 is between 26 and 30, by the looks of the bar closer to <30

TeeBee13
07-18-2014, 08:31 PM
I see the Tiers are going by 25 up till 200 definitely, so actually I believe there is more Tiers:
Tier 1 = 0-25
Tier 2 = 26-50
Tier 3 = 51-75
Tier 4 = 76-100
Tier 5 = 101-125
Tier 6 = 126-150
Tier 7 = 151-175
Tier 8 = 176-200

Above this I have not got a game, but since Epic bosses running I have games from level 60 up to level 198 and as changed several Tiers since, I believe the 50s Tiers are incorrect.

BrisingrBoss
07-18-2014, 10:14 PM
OP's post is incorrect. Tier 6 (L151-200) = just around 230m health this time.

ok updated tier 6

Dctrbar
07-18-2014, 10:20 PM
For all the instances where people like Jerle or CJ have stated Gree doesn't really support camping, I'd like to point out that the different tiers for epic bosses are still one of the main contributing factors to that counterintuitive play style.

There should be one boss tier for everyone. Stronger players would make it further into the event and weaker players would have a major incentive to level up and grow stronger.

These different tiers for different levels do nothing but discourage gaining XP, and it's totally backwards that players are rewarded for avoiding playing the game.

Well said!

d.k.
07-19-2014, 05:21 AM
not much changed in tier 5 (L101-150), currently in 110 Million area...

Saronis
07-19-2014, 06:02 AM
Tadaah... at least pretend that u hear us and care..

pedrombv
07-19-2014, 06:15 AM
Just finish tier one. Its less than my cash attack.
Free hit 942 k, with one hit, damage is almost 70 % of him.
cash hits 1.4m is out

Nighteg
07-19-2014, 06:37 AM
Tier 7 (L201-249) is closer to 320m.

Saronis
07-19-2014, 06:57 AM
tier 8..
boss health is 1,25-1,26b

supercc
07-19-2014, 07:35 AM
thnx for information

Pointless
07-19-2014, 01:23 PM
I can assure you that the tier 4 level 100 boss health is 62m or less or more.. Makes no sense but meh.

BrisingrBoss
07-19-2014, 07:11 PM
just a quick reminder that your cash attack is not your actual attack. your cash attack is your raw attack before any bonuses.

BrisingrBoss
07-19-2014, 07:25 PM
so basically i just confirmed tier 5 to be correct. so it is for sure over 98 million and under 110 million, i put it as 105 million. remember cash attack is raw attack not your boosted attack. you can see your attack when you attack the numbers pop up on screen

navanodo
07-20-2014, 08:36 AM
Confirm that tier 8 boss 100 is 1.25bil

BrisingrBoss
07-21-2014, 09:35 AM
Confirm that tier 8 boss 100 is 1.25bil

changed.

i try and keep the information up to date based on my personal experience with boss, plus your guys input. i have 7 accounts, and i finish them all on boss, with varying gold amounts. most of them require under 200 gold, with my tier 7 account using about 500 gold. i calculate based on my actual attack on boss(raw) which is displayed briefly in red letters when i do an attack. i do not currently have any account under 50, so those tiers are empty for me, and i would need input from you guys to fill up that info. as usual, Gree has increased all tiers again, but with a higher increase to higher levels, making even more difficult for those higher levels to finish it up. I'm really glad I'm not tier 8. as Gree is constantly sticking it to the level 250's.

<3 Hz
07-21-2014, 12:25 PM
Well my Level 14 account that I've never spent gold on made it all the way through 100 with 2 free hits.

My L250 that has had a decent amount of gold invested in it took 30 cash hits to finish 100!

Tell me, does this make any sense at all?

<3 Hz
07-21-2014, 12:29 PM
Also the game is so backwards in so many ways compared to other games.

For example, in a game like the old Final Fantasy, you don't start right off being really powerful & being able to take out any monsters just to become weak & feeble at the highest level.

iTzMeWaTeRrMaLoOoNe
07-22-2014, 07:48 AM
It took someone in my syndicate 35 FAs to finish L100 boss, damn L250 is basically the end of the world.

BrisingrBoss
08-10-2014, 02:32 AM
and again boss health increased by a few million

kimberleyj
08-10-2014, 07:31 AM
Hey gree... Remember when you said you were going to start rewarding people for playing, gaining experience, and leveling up? Will that be coming any time soon?


well gree, we are still waiting?.

PhantomNine
08-10-2014, 07:24 PM
The last time I played it took me 39 hits and well over $12m cash and 5 refills (gold) to kill level 100. I swore I would no longer play that event.

Simon.
08-10-2014, 07:35 PM
Well my Level 14 account that I've never spent gold on made it all the way through 100 with 2 free hits.

My L250 that has had a decent amount of gold invested in it took 30 cash hits to finish 100!

Tell me, does this make any sense at all?

You will have to tell me how you beat 100 bosses and remained at level 14 - I made a burner for this event and it finished at lvl 22 once 100 bosses were dead (34 now after knocking off another 100 or so). The EXP rewards for syn goals and looting/attacking to get the boss to appear also added a fair chunk of EXP. What's your strategy please sir? (Keep in mind this was a burner too, so I didn't exactly select targets delicately to pull the boss)

Your lvl 250 must be a tank too for only 30 Gold hits - mine got to level 60 and I decided it was too expensive (i.e. I was better off buying gold items from the store then spending it on the rewards for beating more bosses). But then my lvl 250 isn't exactly a King of stats either being under 100mil att, but does have a reasonably high IPH at just over 19.6mil

EDIT:
it took 30 cash hits to finish 100!

Sorry, to clarify, you paid a total of 30 cash hits to defeat all 100 EB's, or did it cost 30 x cash hits to defeat the final lvl 100? Or do you mean Gold hits??

B0ST0N
08-11-2014, 06:42 AM
Usually the higher you get the easier it should be in other games. Not CC though lol. At the same time, what could they honestly do to fix it without losing a bunch of $$??

Dipstik
08-11-2014, 06:47 AM
Put everyone in the same tier and watch low levels scramble to get stronger and level up.

dip.stick
08-11-2014, 01:13 PM
changed.

i try and keep the information up to date based on my personal experience with boss, plus your guys input. i have 7 accounts, and i finish them all on boss, with varying gold amounts. most of them require under 200 gold, with my tier 7 account using about 500 gold. i calculate based on my actual attack on boss(raw) which is displayed briefly in red letters when i do an attack. i do not currently have any account under 50, so those tiers are empty for me, and i would need input from you guys to fill up that info. as usual, Gree has increased all tiers again, but with a higher increase to higher levels, making even more difficult for those higher levels to finish it up. I'm really glad I'm not tier 8. as Gree is constantly sticking it to the level 250's.

Lucky you! The highest could be 73b