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Euchred
06-10-2014, 07:23 PM
Looks like we get a defense building..
http://i.imgur.com/ikKyYQ2l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hKMzKaNl.jpg
Very modded Costs :D
1. 75,000
2. 41,928
3. 58,698
4.
5. 140,877
6. 239,490
7. 324,670
8. 396,541
9. 412,337
10. 612,623
Unmodded times
1. 24
2. 27
3. 39
4. 47
5. 55
6. 63
7. 71
8. 79
9. 87
10. 95
Building Defense
1. 20,000
10. 10,000,000
Alexius
06-10-2014, 07:52 PM
Oh joy.............:mad::mad::mad:
Uugh. Quite useless in the grand scheme of things, sadly. Now, if everyone's Attack & Defense were even instead of having anywhere from a 5% - 25% disparity between them, it might make a difference.
Although, a base of 200k is pretty high, and it only increases per level, so could end up being a few million. It might make a difference to some, especially with the additional building defense % boosts we've been getting.
EDIT
Euchred, I noticed that, if it scales similar to the other building equations, we may be looking at the following numbers
1 - 200k
2 - 400k (confirmed)
3 - 700k
4 - 1100k
5 - 1600k
6 - 2200k
7 - 2900k
8 - 3700k
9 - 4600k
10 - 6000k
Being able to build three means a potential base gain of 18 million defense. Then add the building defense boosts, of which most people have over 100%, which means 36 million defense from all three.
Maybe this building isn't so useless after all. Plus, tall sprite makes it a real ***** to click anything raidable behind it. I foresee manors hidden behind trees in the near future...
Voxker
06-10-2014, 10:29 PM
eh i might get it to like lvl 8-9 but not 10. too much gold :/
Yeah, that 2% Alliance Defense is not a whole lot, and the unit's stats aren't even that phenomenal for the gold sink this would end up being, even with over 50% off the cost. Total unmodded cost is 23,032,860 by Euchred's calculations, and even at a rate of 50% off, that's still ~11.5m. At least the EB is early on once again this cycle? /shrug
eh i might get it to like lvl 8-9 but not 10. too much gold :/
the_bob
06-10-2014, 11:19 PM
All defensive building follow the formula of:
Level 1 = n defense
Level 2 = 2n defense
Level 3 = 3n defense
...
Level 10 = 10n defense.
That means level 10 will be 2 million defense. Multiply that by 5 and you can get up to 10 million defense out of a cluster of Tree Forts. Might not be worthless, after all. Not game breaking, but usable.
Edit:
So since this building doesn't follow the standard defense formula then yes. Yes, it might just be game breaking.
MadMaxx61
06-11-2014, 01:50 AM
Lvl 3 is 800k not 700k
rutty
06-11-2014, 02:43 AM
For those of us with lower stats (ie, *normal* players) these things are a real boon. I have about 10M defence but looking forward to growing them all :)
Uberfauker
06-11-2014, 05:37 AM
Level 4 is 1600k
lopez6295
06-11-2014, 07:42 AM
For those of us with lower stats (ie, *normal* players) these things are a real boon. I have about 10M defence but looking forward to growing them all :)
I agree, i currently have a defense of 10M and an attack of 13M. Im the GG of a top 400 guild so these new boosts in defense will really help me out and other members. I know there are players with hundreds of millions in stats and to them this makes no difference, but lets think about the little guy and the change this makes for everyone else. And as always, thanks Euchred for these posts!
Valid or
06-11-2014, 07:57 AM
I agree, i currently have a defense of 10M and an attack of 13M. Im the GG of a top 400 guild so these new boosts in defense will really help me out and other members. I know there are players with hundreds of millions in stats and to them this makes no difference, but lets think about the little guy and the change this makes for everyone else. And as always, thanks Euchred for these posts!
While it will help you out, it will also help out your competition, lvl 9 tree house 50,000,000 defence lvl 10 100,000,000.
And the ability to build 3 of them. So up to300,000,000 total defence possible.
Our attack stats will stay the same..so how do we target people next war when looking at the new added defence stats? Hope people didn't work on the ltb?
Rossta4249
06-11-2014, 09:02 AM
Do we know whether this defense building will add to our regular defense stat, or only be applicable when being raided?
Valid or
06-11-2014, 09:04 AM
Do we know whether this defense building will add to our regular defense stat, or only be applicable when being raided?
It adds to our total just like all other defence buildings, seen a few screen shots from when people did the lvl 8 upgrade(never asked the amount of gems spent to get that far)
Rossta4249
06-11-2014, 09:10 AM
Thanks Valid
MadMaxx61
06-11-2014, 07:11 PM
They dropped a "0" off all the lvls
200k = 20k
400k = 40k
ect.
Sgt Maj
06-11-2014, 09:45 PM
Still a good building
rutty
06-12-2014, 03:28 AM
Nerfed. I guess they didn't think it through. Quelle surprise
KrisTheGreat
06-12-2014, 06:40 AM
What minimum level do you have to be to build the tree? I got a mini that would love to have one.
Looks like we get a defense building..
http://i.imgur.com/hKMzKaNl.jpg
Info coming up
Unmodded Costs
1. 75,000
2. 97,500
3. 136,500
4. 204,750
5. 327,600
6. 556,920
7. 1,180,000
8. 2,478.000
9. 5,439,210
10. 12,537,380
Unmodded times
1. 24
2. 27
3. 39
4. 47
5. 55
6. 63
7. 71
8. 79
9. 87
10. 95
Building Defense
1. 20,000
10. 10,000,000
RandomUser
06-12-2014, 07:05 AM
What minimum level do you have to be to build the tree? I got a mini that would love to have one.
The minimum level is 20
Sgt Maj
06-12-2014, 06:56 PM
Can someone please tell me what alliance defence and alliance attack bonuses do?
Voxker
06-12-2014, 11:30 PM
Can someone please tell me what alliance defence and alliance attack bonuses do?
alliance attack/def boosts all units atk/def
Sgt Maj
06-13-2014, 06:33 AM
Really? That is a pretty sweet bonus then!
Sandhawk
06-13-2014, 07:00 AM
Do we know whether this defense building will add to our regular defense stat, or only be applicable when being raided?
This ^^^ is an answer I am waiting on...
Valid or
06-13-2014, 11:10 AM
This ^^^ is an answer I am waiting on...
Guess you missed my answer,
It adds to your defence total like any other defence building, watch your defence numbers when you upgraded, they will increase by the amount of the building increase + our increase building defence % bonus.
Sgt Maj
06-13-2014, 04:00 PM
I thought it only added to the defence total when a building under its protection got raided.
Uberfauker
06-13-2014, 04:35 PM
I thought it only added to the defence total when a building under its protection got raided.
In your profile, click on the "i" next to your attack/defense, look at the bottom of the screen that shows you how many Units/Weapons/Armor you have and it says:
"HINT: Defense buildings add to your Total Army Defense score. Make sure to upgrade!"
Uberfauker
06-13-2014, 04:48 PM
Guess you missed my answer,
It adds to your defence total like any other defence building, watch your defence numbers when you upgraded, they will increase by the amount of the building increase + our increase building defence % bonus.
The increase building defense % bonus only applies to the hidden building defense and does not increase your army defense score.
SenorSwamp
06-13-2014, 05:51 PM
The increase building defense % bonus only applies to the hidden building defense and does not increase your army defense score.
What in the world is "hidden building defense"?
Uberfauker
06-13-2014, 08:19 PM
What in the world is "hidden building defense"?
I'm not sure how it works but each building has a hidden defense. I'm sure it made a difference a long time ago when we had 10k/10k attack/defense but now with inflated stats its probably useless. You can see the values in Column F in the data sheet below. That is what the building defense bonus is for not the defense buildings.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj9pi1nr5A99dFF0UWZKZWxzSGVyZkh5ekhnUnh0e lE#gid=57
DanielLP04
06-15-2014, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the table. Looks like I have to start saving a lot of gold!
Snuttan
06-16-2014, 10:24 AM
This time Gree has changed both the upgrade time and the upgrade cost from previous builds so we are clueless to what they will be. I just got to lvl 6 and here is my proximate unboosted so far.
Cost Time
1 75 000 24
2 125 500 35
3 176 000 51
4 264 000 61
5 422 500 71
6 718 000 81
Keijen
06-16-2014, 02:19 PM
These new limited time builds are fantastic, but there is a slight problem. Those of us that were unlucky enough to be in a guild that didn't earn the ability to upgrade multiple buildings don't stand much of a chance to progress any further in these event s.
Many other games offer the ability to purchase additional building upgrades for $2.99-$4.99 each.
Please consider adding the ability for us that missed out on this upgrade, a chance to earn or buy it again.
Alexius
06-16-2014, 10:28 PM
Or offer a +2 building upgrade as a lower tier reward(top400) with a maximum amount of stacking for that bonus at let's say......+6.
Keijen
06-17-2014, 08:24 PM
Or offer a +2 building upgrade as a lower tier reward(top400) with a maximum amount of stacking for that bonus at let's say......+6.
Excellent option.
RandomUser
06-18-2014, 10:14 AM
Defensive boost output:
Lvl - Bonus
1. 20,000
2. 40,000
3. 80,000
4. 160,000
5. 320,000
6. 640,000
7. 1,250,000
8. 2,500,000
9. 5,000,000
10. 10,000,000
I just saw a guy who has 5 of these, how is that possible when I can only build 3?
mmalkove
06-20-2014, 08:34 AM
I just saw a guy who has 5 of these, how is that possible when I can only build 3?
Hacker, Just report him.
Snuttan
06-25-2014, 10:11 AM
The unboosted should be something like this:
Cost
1 75 000
2 125 500
3 176 000
4 264 000
5 422 500
6 718 000
7 973 500
8 1 251 500
9 1 301 500
10 1 933 500
Time
1 24
2 35
3 51
4 61
5 71
6 82
7 92
8 102
9 113
10 123
Valid or
06-25-2014, 10:58 AM
Hacker, Just report him.
The is one other way, it's a old scam, not a hack.
But from what I have heard gree sometimes still falls for it.
They build the buildings then sell 2 of them, then send in a ticket to gree saying they sold them by accident(easy to do for real too, given the game has a memory for taps, one could mis tap and before you know it you never had the chance to hit cancel or no), and ask if they can replace them, and then gree replaces them, but it's still in there build menu as the ones gree replaced are not deducted from this, so they build them again. And when they are done they have 5.
Old scam..surprised it still works.
We shouldn't jump to conclusions on everything we see. As there can be other explanations as well.
Manors this was done most often with in the past, you have prob seem people with 3, and that was how they did it.or at least one of the ways
Ryosaeba
06-26-2014, 09:08 PM
It's still a hack in a way. I mean, they are doing something that's not suppose to be possible. Instead of hacking the game, they are simply hacking the competence of Gree support.
Beowolf
06-29-2014, 10:50 AM
I had 2 tree forts and they have both disappeared! And my stats dropp dramatically! Went from 10m attack and 19m defense to 5m attack and 5m defense! WTF.
Wedge Antilles
06-30-2014, 02:32 AM
For those of us with lower stats (ie, *normal* players) these things are a real boon. I have about 10M defence but looking forward to growing them all :)
I hate these tree forts. I was 20 mil attack and 20 mil def. now I am 20 mil attack and 30 mil def because I have built a level 10 tree fort.
Sounds great? Not really. Now a lot of guys at my player level have done the same thing. That can't touch me now and I can't touch then. That's a huge recipe for boring. I haven't even started upgrading the others yet. What then?
Generic_Username
06-30-2014, 04:03 AM
it is what it is. stop your whining and deal with it. if u cant attack somebody who is stronger than you, its your problem not the tree fort.
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