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Apollo13
06-04-2014, 07:50 AM
I need clarification. With what you are doing to Raid Bosses and Faction LTQs, are you telling us not to do it? Please clarify mod, and if so, we will all take a break. Badly needing one after the way the Raid Bosses had gone over the last few days.

Kiko Matsing
06-04-2014, 09:19 AM
Gree should just shut this game down so we can de released from our misery, events has become unplayable, next thing they would do is to also destroy WD LOL!

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 10:54 AM
Gree should just shut this game down so we can de released from our misery, events has become unplayable, next thing they would do is to also destroy WD LOL!

WD has been messed up for a long time and with the recent changes to the rewards in WD, it makes no sense for any faction bellow top 500 to put any effort into the wars.

I'm waiting to see how they will mess up the Full Assault.

Tadaaah
06-04-2014, 01:13 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?

good gawd noooo
06-04-2014, 01:16 PM
Agreed this is becoming a sick joke.. the energy fequired for current fltq and the rewards areant that good. To complete either part to pestige requires money... whatever happened to making it possible to complete with a little gold??? Now break out the vaults every event..... gree is committinggame suicide

good gawd noooo
06-04-2014, 01:25 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?
You have got to be kidding me. Taking an event that the top400 factions are able to complete threw teamwork and sleepless nites. To make it funner for those even fewer top what 50???? Your gonna ruin it for anyonne lower???? What were you guys thinking seriously????? Read your own forums to keep your top 10 percent your pushing the other 90 percent to give up. Look at your number guys even on current ltq and box event i bet your numbers drop even more....i do use gold so do the members of my faction but yyour making that purchase a waste... your actions are showing me if i dont want to spend at least 500 a month on this game i wont be able to compete... and this game to me isnt worth it

Lift Ticket
06-04-2014, 01:31 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?

The problem is that Gree is constantly throwing events after events at us, all requiring vaults of gold to complete. Let the players have a couple days or even a day between events to relax. The current formats that Gree is using is pushing more players into retirement and causing the current gold players to spend less because of the overload of events. I could be wrong, Gree could be making more money than I am guessing, but seeing some people on the rivals lists that were former top players in their factions "blowing up" their bases makes me think otherwise.

If the events are built for players of all levels, how is it possible for a low, mid level player able to complete or nearly complete any of the LTQ's, boss (epic or raid) or box events without dropping a few (lightly put) vaults to do so?

bam bam.
06-04-2014, 01:33 PM
Tadaaah. Lower the gambling (chance loot, crates, scratchers, etc) from the game. Back to the good ol days of missions and war. Stop raising the bar after each event. Allow us to catch up once in a while. Have some events completeable for half a vault. Fix the inventory (allow us to sort it, most recent, atk stats, def stats, alphabetically) . Allow us to kill crud units (like the ones I'm getting most days from scratchers). On the chance events like crates tell us the odds and stick to them. Ur chance for item 10 should b the same as item 1 so we don't turn our kids into problem gamblers. Kill off full assault. Lower the cost of a vault. Remove the apple/itunes tax that exists in some countries (Aus we have $130 vaults). Give us info a month in advance of game changes. Put that info in game not on the forum. Better rewards for WD n base the game around that. Allow us to search our allies. Listen to the community. Everything ive said in here has been yelled at you guys for over a yr on here, n we r watching MW slide down the earners list. Beta test properly. Don't release new events till all ur old bugs r ironed out. B more transparent with ur progress on hacks n hackers. Have mods/admins/devs free play the game. Lower upgrade times. Treat us with respect. Lower xp gain on ILTQs. Give folders for raid boss when we RAID. jus b transparent and honest.

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 01:43 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?

Suggestion? You don't listen to anything we got to say. This forum is full of suggestions and you don't listen to anything. Keep driving yourself out of business.

Suggestion 1: fire CJ - he has no idea what's going on with the game.
Suggestion 2: fire people who turned this fun game into junk over the last year.
Suggestion 3: make everyone at gree play the game so they know what's going on with the game
Suggestion 4: hire competent people

DOG-GONE
06-04-2014, 01:46 PM
Well put!!! Please take note of his comments!!!


Tadaaah. Lower the gambling (chance loot, crates, scratchers, etc) from the game. Back to the good ol days of missions and war. Stop raising the bar after each event. Allow us to catch up once in a while. Have some events completeable for half a vault. Fix the inventory (allow us to sort it, most recent, atk stats, def stats, alphabetically) . Allow us to kill crud units (like the ones I'm getting most days from scratchers). On the chance events like crates tell us the odds and stick to them. Ur chance for item 10 should b the same as item 1 so we don't turn our kids into problem gamblers. Kill off full assault. Lower the cost of a vault. Remove the apple/itunes tax that exists in some countries (Aus we have $130 vaults). Give us info a month in advance of game changes. Put that info in game not on the forum. Better rewards for WD n base the game around that. Allow us to search our allies. Listen to the community. Nothing ive said in here has been yelled at you guys for over a yr on here n we r watching MW slide down the earners list. Beta test properly. Don't release new events till all ur old bugs r ironed out. B more transparent with ur progress on hacks n hackers. Have mods/admins/devs free play the game. Lower upgrade times. Treat us with respect. Lower xp gain on ILTQs. Give folders for raid boss when we RAID. jus b transparent and honest.

DOG-GONE
06-04-2014, 01:50 PM
Suggestion 5: Fix Customer service don't keep giving us this gernic replies

"Thanks for contacting GREE Support! We apologize for the delay in reply to your initial ticket request. Please let us know if you are still experiencing an issue in-game, and if so please feel free to reply to this email. One of our specialists will be happy to assist you.

If the issue has since been resolved, please feel free to disregard this email.

Best Regards,

GREE Support"

More than a month after the ticket was sent in!!!!!


Suggestion? You don't listen to anything we got to say. This forum is full of suggestions and you don't listen to anything. Keep driving yourself out of business.

Suggestion 1: fire CJ - he has no idea what's going on with the game.
Suggestion 2: fire people who turned this fun game into junk over the last year.
Suggestion 3: make everyone at gree play the game so they know what's going on with the game
Suggestion 4: hire competent people

Tadaaah
06-04-2014, 01:58 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. Granted I meant suggestions for this specific event; the feedback is welcomed. There are definitely some great suggestions here. Just to check that I'm hearing you correctly, to summarize:

1. Increase information
2. Try to push information earlier
3. Put time between events
4. Play the games (which I can tell you that we do play).

bam bam.
06-04-2014, 02:03 PM
2. in game info. Not here on the forums

3. We have time between events because unless u r SUP or OSW or top10 u cant afford to finish events n if u dont get final prize it's not worth doing event at all so we already have plenty of free time

4. Free play the game, that's where it was fun back in the day. Where spenders had an edge but hard working addicts who free played had half a chance. It's no fun if its spend spend spend all the time. When u played monopoly as a kid, can u imagine paying to play every roll of the dice?. That's where we r at. Correct info.

And competent ppl as one of the fellas stated earlier would be a joy

Ghost-12
06-04-2014, 02:05 PM
1. Increase information
2. Try to push information earlier
3. Put time between events
4. Play the games (which I can tell you that we do play).
5. Lower the cost it takes to play this game entirely.

BTW welcome :D

SimplyminiMW
06-04-2014, 02:14 PM
615,000 energy to complete fltq goal 9/10 normal chain.....seriously too much. Or better put 8 vaults worth of energy. Sure SUP & OSW have a ton of energy mods to assist them but us lower factions don't. Thanks for the middle finger.

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 02:15 PM
Give us a list of rewards before events start.

Make rewards so that they make sense to players. You recently lowered rewards for lower levels to the point that it doesn't make sense for players to participate in the events unless we are able to get the final unit. Do you know how many people actually able to throw enough money at this game to get the final units? 5-10%? For the rest of us, it doesn't make sense to participate in the events.

Bring the WD back to what they used to be. I think even top 750 factions used to get 3-5% boosts in WD. Now it's 1%. 1% boost is not worth 3 days of fighting. Top 500 get 1%+ 1% and they have to use gold to stay in top 500. Gold and 3 days of fighting for 2% boost? Makes no sense to me.

Bring the gold requirements to what they used to be. We used to be able to complete event using 100-200 gold. Now it's insane amounts of money to complete one of many events each month.

Lower the health on bosses to what they used to be and increase the folder drop rate. If you want to make a special event for top 10 teams, fine, but why increase the health of the other bosses and low folder drop rates?

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. Granted I meant suggestions for this specific event; the feedback is welcomed. There are definitely some great suggestions here. Just to check that I'm hearing you correctly, to summarize:

1. Increase information
2. Try to push information earlier
3. Put time between events
4. Play the games (which I can tell you that we do play).

If you guys play the game, why would CJ come in here and say that nothing has been changed to the boss event except for the extra level?

You increased the health of the bosses, increased folder requirements, lowered the folder drop rate and he comes in here and declared that nothing has been changed. What do you call that?

Why is the folder drop rate for accounts levels 80-100 is half of the drop rate for levels around 180? Players who are at level 100 don't deserve to play the game?

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 02:35 PM
Tadaaah, it looks like you might be new at gree. If that's the case, sorry. You might not know all the history. There have been multiple threads like this one that are full of suggestions and nothing is ever implemented. The game used to be fun before gree bought it, but over the last year, devs have been driving this game into the ground.

bam bam.
06-04-2014, 02:44 PM
If he is new hopefully he has got some go in him! ^^^ need a doer around here

Tadaaah
06-04-2014, 02:47 PM
Shrinko: Indeed, I am new and catching up on all the information. Shifting through a year or two of old threads may not be scalable at this time. Moving forward, we can look to start feedback specific threads for features, events, etc. It'll take time but GREE does want to hear player opinions and we'll work on the best ways to get that information to them.

Thank you all for your suggestions. It looks like we have quite the road ahead of us. Let's take this one step at a time.

2000y2k
06-04-2014, 02:51 PM
Well I would suggest you read Tardvic(?) thread titled something like "We are having a meeting this week" and his poll on what type of bonuses we would like to see. Should give you a pretty good summary of what was asked for and what was not delivered.

lemonhaze
06-04-2014, 03:04 PM
Well I would suggest you read Tardvic(?) thread titled something like "We are having a meeting this week" and his poll on what type of bonuses we would like to see. Should give you a pretty good summary of what was asked for and what was not delivered.

agree..im pretty sure no one voted for higher health of rb,more energy for fltq and more vaults of gold to complete 1 event...which is all we see lately..gree dont give a rats ... about its customers!!

bam bam.
06-04-2014, 03:08 PM
Shrinko: Indeed, I am new and catching up on all the information. Shifting through a year or two of old threads may not be scalable at this time. Moving forward, we can look to start feedback specific threads for features, events, etc. It'll take time but GREE does want to hear player opinions and we'll work on the best ways to get that information to them.

Thank you all for your suggestions. It looks like we have quite the road ahead of us. Let's take this one step at a time.

Well I'll give you the heads up.

Don't take no crap off of none of us. Don't promise more than u can give. Be fair. Expect a hell of a lot of negativity. Know that we r passionate and just want our game back (we don't expect it to be free, but a lot cheaper with fun attached will see long term gold spenders return and MW head north on top earners charts-it really is a product that sells itself). Think through anything u post on here as ur words will come back to haunt u. Skim over old threads but the game has changed so much that a lot of it won't apply any more (but some certainly will still apply n b "ongoing"). Have a clear goal set for urself and aim for that...aim high!, work hard. Don't let management at ur end taint ur values. Call it as it is. That's what we ask. Do communicate but seriously don't get caught up in hot threads....take ur time with ur responses (I'm talking an hr or two...not days, weeks or months as we have become accustomed to). Know that we know ur mistakes long before u find out about them (everything that happens at ur end is reactive) so respect us and we will help you.

bam bam.
06-04-2014, 03:32 PM
And tadaaah, welcome to our community and good luck mate. Ur forum handle suggests u believe in magic. Hopefully we can make some happen ;)

Dazzj10
06-04-2014, 04:01 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?
The game is being turned into a game ONLY for high level players,, where are the events the lower level/new players can complete,,,,
Oh ye NOWHERE please come back when. You give a toss about the little guys in this game,
I for one am sick of hearing the same rubbish " we make the game playable for all".. No you don't you make it more and more impossible every time

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 04:19 PM
The problem is that game is not a game anymore. It's a store. You come and buy the images of units and you leave. Player experience has gone down the drain. A couple of years ago we played the game because it was fun. We were able to complete events for free or with very little gold using strategy and by factions working together. Now it's all about gold. There is no strategy. There is no game. Come and buy things people or leave.

Paisthecoolest
06-04-2014, 04:20 PM
Well I would suggest you read Tardvic(?) thread titled something like "We are having a meeting this week" and his poll on what type of bonuses we would like to see. Should give you a pretty good summary of what was asked for and what was not delivered.

http://forums.gree.net/showthread.php?82512-We-re-having-a-meeting-this-week-voice-your-concerns-here!

Apollo13
06-04-2014, 05:02 PM
Tadaaah and Tadavic. Do the mod even recycle their names? GREE would be environmentally friendly in the real world. And Tadaaah. You have normal and then prestige. The normal is already an impossible task. I cannot imagine how the prestige for this FLTQ is going to be like. And cut the crap talk, you guys just don't have the smallest clue of how to fix problems. You guys solution to problem is just to up the bar to an impossible levels. You said you guys do play, play the game like any ordinary folks here, and then you will know. Not give yourself all the rewards and then play the game. I bet you guys managed to match all 6 for every scratch it everyday too.

How do you like it if your government solution to all problems is to keep raising your tax every year? I think this is a fair example because you guys are suppose to be the government of this game and you guys are NOT COOL. You guys would have been so fired long long time ago.

Another thing, tell CJ not to be so rude in some of his reply to the people of the MW community. We are the one paying you guys your salary. And you don't talk to your bosses like this.

Well, this is my suggestion since you ask for it on how to improve the game.

Apollo13
06-04-2014, 05:13 PM
The game was fine before, you have to rinse it, just when the MW community start having some faith in the game again with the recent banning of hackers. So is this our prize for demanding hackers to be removed? If so, I think EVERYONE SHOULD JUST KEEP SUGGESTIONS TO THEMSELVES, PLAY IF YOU ONLY FEEL YOU ENJOY THE GAME, OTHERWISE LEAVE FOR THIS SILLY GAME JUST NOT GONNA BE FIXED. ANY SOLUTION COME WITH A PRICE TAG AND THE INVOICE WILL BE SENT TO YOU IN THE NEXT EVENT CYCLE.

Tadaaah
06-04-2014, 05:27 PM
Tadaaah and Tadavic. Do the mod even recycle their names? GREE would be environmentally friendly in the real world. And Tadaaah. You have normal and then prestige. The normal is already an impossible task. I cannot imagine how the prestige for this FLTQ is going to be like. And cut the crap talk, you guys just don't have the smallest clue of how to fix problems. You guys solution to problem is just to up the bar to an impossible levels. You said you guys do play, play the game like any ordinary folks here, and then you will know. Not give yourself all the rewards and then play the game. I bet you guys managed to match all 6 for every scratch it everyday too.

How do you like it if your government solution to all problems is to keep raising your tax every year? I think this is a fair example because you guys are suppose to be the government of this game and you guys are NOT COOL. You guys would have been so fired long long time ago.

Another thing, tell CJ not to be so rude in some of his reply to the people of the MW community. We are the one paying you guys your salary. And you don't talk to your bosses like this.

Well, this is my suggestion since you ask for it on how to improve the game.

Thank you for your feedback. Our teams do work hard at trying to resolve issues and improve the game. There is an extensive amount of research that goes into implementing new features, events, items, etc. One of the most interesting parts about being part of living product (such as a video game), in my opinion, is just that. It is a living product. Yes, that means we can be innovative and take chances and make the game better as time progresses. But that also means that because it is living, we are bound to come across unknown glitches or maybe we need make some adjustments to something. This thread is a great beginning to amazing discussions and where we want to take this game for the future. Change may be slow, but it is there.


And tadaaah, welcome to our community and good luck mate. Ur forum handle suggests u believe in magic. Hopefully we can make some happen ;)

I wish there was a like button for this.


Well I'll give you the heads up.

Don't take no crap off of none of us. Don't promise more than u can give. Be fair. Expect a hell of a lot of negativity. Know that we r passionate and just want our game back (we don't expect it to be free, but a lot cheaper with fun attached will see long term gold spenders return and MW head north on top earners charts-it really is a product that sells itself). Think through anything u post on here as ur words will come back to haunt u. Skim over old threads but the game has changed so much that a lot of it won't apply any more (but some certainly will still apply n b "ongoing"). Have a clear goal set for urself and aim for that...aim high!, work hard. Don't let management at ur end taint ur values. Call it as it is. That's what we ask. Do communicate but seriously don't get caught up in hot threads....take ur time with ur responses (I'm talking an hr or two...not days, weeks or months as we have become accustomed to). Know that we know ur mistakes long before u find out about them (everything that happens at ur end is reactive) so respect us and we will help you.

These are all great comments. You bring up a lot of good points. It may take some time to get the forums back on the right track and learn the best ways of passing along information.

ScrewThis
06-04-2014, 05:40 PM
Tadaah, I'd like to see you continue your dialogue on here. Engage with us. Listen to us. Most people here want to have fun and are prepared to pay to play but things are way out of hand. Let's have a two way conversation. I hope that in 6 months from now you don't come across this thread and wonder when you became a Gree drone who stopped talking to the guys paying for all of this.

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 06:04 PM
Tadaah, can you tell us if CJ finally got fired?

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 06:10 PM
Tadaah, I'd like to see you continue your dialogue on here. Engage with us. Listen to us. Most people here want to have fun and are prepared to pay to play but things are way out of hand. Let's have a two way conversation. I hope that in 6 months from now you don't come across this thread and wonder when you became a Gree drone who stopped talking to the guys paying for all of this.
Agree 100%. Unfortunately, most of us lost trust in gree a long time ago. I would've been a paying customer and probably would've been buying gold every month if gree didn't destroy this game. If we could still finish events with 100-200 gold like it was a year or 2 ago, I would've been buying gold. Since gree raised gold requirements, I stopped buying gold and stopped participating in events that I and our faction can't complete. Gree doesn't realize that by increasing gold demands they are loosing paying players. Why would I pay if I can't get the rewards? How many people out there are willing to throw thousands of $$$ at gree every months? I hope not too many. Otherwise, it would be a sad sad world to live in.

Thorm V2
06-04-2014, 06:11 PM
Hey Apollo,

The idea of adding an additional quest to the events is to help high level players continue to have a challenge. The event as a whole is built for players of all levels, which means we need to include those high levels as well.

With that being said, what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?

Run an event without any bugs.

kmikulz
06-04-2014, 06:13 PM
What in the heck is going on with late levels of normal FLTQ? 177 kills on lvl 9/10. Are you kidding me, my faction has never quit anything, but we are considering quitting this event. Especially when I see a posting from another player with the same level showing they need 13 kills and I need 177. What gives?

xxxfff
06-04-2014, 06:36 PM
CJs sarcasm is one my favorite parts of the forum. More Cowbell CJ!!




Another thing, tell CJ not to be so rude in some of his reply to the people of the MW community. We are the one paying you guys your salary. And you don't talk to your bosses like this.

Well, this is my suggestion since you ask for it on how to improve the game.

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 06:54 PM
CJs sarcasm is one my favorite parts of the forum. More Cowbell CJ!!

Sarcasm? He is just rude, obnoxious and everything he says is completely disconnected with reality (not sure if I should just call it lying)

Meastro2
06-04-2014, 08:23 PM
1) more tme between events . Guys have wanted that since WD came out.
2) rewards posted ingame in the mission menus. That way we know what the prize is.
3) instead of hitting a target 3x for 25 points just make it a 75 point hit until the target is 750 points then do multiple targets. I'm tired of tapping a target 11 times before it goes away!

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 08:35 PM
Oh yeah, please more time between wars. Wars used to be every 4-6 weeks and then gree got too greedy and made them every 17 days. Come on greedy gree. Every 4 weeks is too often for WD events but 17 days is just way too often.

Bosston
06-04-2014, 08:40 PM
Add defense bonus to these events!!!! For every 10 Att bonus prize there's 1 5% def bonus prize. And I'll bet the next defense bonus prize is going to be expensive.

Ajk
06-04-2014, 09:30 PM
what suggestions would like to make to keep all players interested at all levels?

Defense buildings... make them worth something again.

Shrinko
06-04-2014, 09:36 PM
Defense buildings... make them worth something again.

I don't think it's possible anymore when one guys defense could be at 7mil and the attacker's attack strength could be 700mil

Ajk
06-04-2014, 10:01 PM
It's not CC, make the perimeter of them highly stackable or something. Think outside the box.

Sheldor Sir
06-04-2014, 10:13 PM
Do you really think there is more than 1 mod/admin?????? Seriously nothing for days then response fm GemH/Tadv/CJ/Sirrus and Tada all happen within minutes................1 guy running like idiot only allowed on forum on 72hr schedule, starts of helpful nice by the time read everything transforms from Jekyl (tad/Gemh) thru (sirrus) to Hyde (Cj)
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CJs sarcasm is one my favorite parts of the forum. More Cowbell CJ!!