New syndicate bonuses

[Nighteg]

Not really new, just more of them :)
I guess donations are valid again!

[Sideline Sal]

Just saw the same and was going to post...too quick there Nighleg

[Kitty McPurr]

Since we know the Mod's won't help...let's get a cost spreadsheet going. It will be useful.

[Dklv]

Lvl 6 on building payout was 125. Lvl 10 was 900m. I don't remember the ones in the middle cause I was so excited.

[CJ54]

Merry Christmas, you guys.

[Kitty McPurr]

The building output bonus has met with mixed results. We had the cash to do all 25% of it, however it has affected members differently. Their increases have ranged from 12% to 19% actual increase in IPH. Can you please explain why 25% isn't 25%?

[The_]

The building output bonus has met with mixed results. We had the cash to do all 25% of it, however it has affected members differently. Their increases have ranged from 12% to 19% actual increase in IPH. Can you please explain why 25% isn't 25%?

1) can't do math
2) lying
3) etc etc

TEST IT BY: Mark down the current IPH, leave syndicate and (old iph/1.5), their numbers should match.

[Kitty McPurr]

1) can't do math
2) lying
3) etc etc

TEST IT BY: Mark down the current IPH, leave syndicate and (old iph/1.5), their numbers should match.

I will speak of my mini account then. Before the Bonus was applied, my income was roughly 7.3mil IPH. After the purchase it went up to 8.3mil IPH. 8.3 divided by 7.3 equals 1.14 that is a 14% boost. Did I miss something there?

Even if I am over estimating my original IPH, I am 100% positive it was above 7mil (as I celebrated that a while ago). 8.3 divided by 7 equals 1.19. a 19% increase. Are my Maths off? Am I calculating it incorrectly? OR....has Gree messed up?

[Kitty McPurr]

I remember an old thread explaining how Building Upgrade Cost and Time modifiers were not added together but rather multiplied together. this made sense because you cannot have greater than a 100% cost/time reduction. I wonder if gree has somehow coded this incorrectly. Although we have obviously seen many other modifiers go well above 100%.

Just curious as to why it isn't what I was expecting? And if it is my fault, where did I make the mistake?

[CC Fred]

I will speak of my mini account then. Before the Bonus was applied, my income was roughly 7.3mil IPH. After the purchase it went up to 8.3mil IPH. 8.3 divided by 7.3 equals 1.14 that is a 14% boost. Did I miss something there?

Even if I am over estimating my original IPH, I am 100% positive it was above 7mil (as I celebrated that a while ago). 8.3 divided by 7 equals 1.19. a 19% increase. Are my Maths off? Am I calculating it incorrectly? OR....has Gree messed up?

It's because the bonuses do not compound.

[Kitty McPurr]

It's because the bonuses do not compound.

While I agree that is the most likely answer, it simple doesn't make any sense. As I stated in the post above yours, both Time and Cost can never drop below zero, so you can't have a modifier above 100%. However there is absolutely no reason payout cannot exceed a 100% boost. The Logic fails.

[The_]

I remember an old thread explaining how Building Upgrade Cost and Time modifiers were not added together but rather multiplied together. this made sense because you cannot have greater than a 100% cost/time reduction. I wonder if gree has somehow coded this incorrectly. Although we have obviously seen many other modifiers go well above 100%.

Just curious as to why it isn't what I was expecting? And if it is my fault, where did I make the mistake?


7M/1.25 = 5.6 (base no mod) -> 5.6M *1.25 = 8.4M

If you *1.25 (new % of IPH increase bonus) to the 7M base, you would get 8.75M

My theory is that the system applies the % bonuses ON the BASE income per hr, which is consistent

[Kitty McPurr]

okay, further breakdown is required. goodfella is 10% boost. previous syndicate boost was 25%. previous weapon mods were 16%. new syndicate bonus adds 25%. I am starting to feel dumb that I can't make this equation work correctly.

thank you _the for humoring me in advance.

[Kitty McPurr]

ok. I think I grasp the idea.

Thanks The_ (sorry mistyped earlier).

[sister morphine]

Merry Christmas, you guys.
These are all very nice, and thank you. But can we please have some kind of energy regen bonuses such as MW Factions have? As a free player it's a real annoyance having to wait 1 hr 40 minutes to refill after doing 4 hits in war. I feel like a slacker :(

[The_]

ok. I think I grasp the idea.

Thanks The_ (sorry mistyped earlier).

Just tested since I was bored, not because I cared. The iph bonuses are additive, not multiplicative compound off one another. Add all your bonuses, mods, etc (or simply check your profile) and it should show your total iph % bonuses. & then simply multiply your base income by the total; if you don't know your base income, divide your full iph/(1.x) , where x = total additive iph bonus %. This should solve the discrepancy.

Shame on you for misspelling my name, kitty mrpure

[Notorious94]

It's like attack and defence mods. They are added to raw stats.
So if your IPH is 10 mil your not adding 25% to 10mil IPH, you would need to find raw IPH and add 25% to that. That's why it only seems your getting 12/19%

[TZora]

sweet .. there're bonuses for improving hideout health too .. wow, buy more gold to get the walls down during battles!

merry christmas gree! for you that is :rolleyes:

[Nighteg]

These are all very nice, and thank you. But can we please have some kind of energy regen bonuses such as MW Factions have? As a free player it's a real annoyance having to wait 1 hr 40 minutes to refill after doing 4 hits in war. I feel like a slacker :(

Agreed.
CJ, it's great the you finally expanded the existing ones, but you need to introduce new bonuses. Last time gree brought something NEW to this game were the raid bosses. That was ages ago.

[hexie]

...Last time gree brought something NEW to this game were the raid bosses. That was ages ago.

Suddenly, Street Assault!

[Bala82]

This was a nice surprise we had a billion in the syn bank and now we broke :(

[murf]

okay, further breakdown is required. goodfella is 10% boost. previous syndicate boost was 25%. previous weapon mods were 16%. new syndicate bonus adds 25%. I am starting to feel dumb that I can't make this equation work correctly.

thank you _the for humoring me in advance.

My IPH ties to the dollar. If I include base * goodfella bonus (10%) * all other mods (I have 66%)

So, base IPH * 1.1 * 1.66 = my total IPH

[BrisingrBoss]

guys the percentage does NOT apply to current IPH it adds on to whatever percentage you had before!!! so if you had 76% to iph now you have 101% to iph. so it applies to your raw iph!!!

[Nighteg]

The additional bonuses will cost us around 900 billion. It's an educated guess, nothing more.

[reticlover]

I will speak of my mini account then. Before the Bonus was applied, my income was roughly 7.3mil IPH. After the purchase it went up to 8.3mil IPH. 8.3 divided by 7.3 equals 1.14 that is a 14% boost. Did I miss something there?

Even if I am over estimating my original IPH, I am 100% positive it was above 7mil (as I celebrated that a while ago). 8.3 divided by 7 equals 1.19. a 19% increase. Are my Maths off? Am I calculating it incorrectly? OR....has Gree messed up?


each is a 5% building output not iph increase,

so if u have a 24hr building and the output is 1,750,000 before bonuses which is 72,916.6

1,750,000x 1.05= 1,837,500 per day which is 76,562.5 iph

[Winnson]

I joined a really good syndicate that was capped a while ago, been living rent free for months.

It's good to be up and robbing again, and using the syndicate instead of the bank to deposit.

Syndicate don't take 10%. Syndicate is my bank until we're capped again.

[Winnson]

The additional bonuses will cost us around 900 billion. It's an educated guess, nothing more.

Pfft, pales in comparison to a developed country's national debt.

Yes we can.

[sportygeee]

Does anyone have a list with the total costs of all upgrades?