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colec023
05-01-2014, 11:33 AM
I get that this game is designed to make money but I disagree with making chances to win for players a random event.

This game is now becoming a game of chance and is taking away from people being able to boost their stats with gold. This creates player dis-satisfaction. When players are not happy they leave. On the contrary, if the events were gold spend based with sure payout then those that spend to achieve those goals are happy. Creating customer loyalty. Increased loyalty leads to increased profits. This is a win win situation.

People spend whatever they are comfortable with in this game and should not be penalized by random occurrences.

For example during this last boss event, I would rather have to hit the final boss 100 times for 1 kill but get a prize than to kill 50 extra 100 bosses to get junk at the hope of getting a prize. Same spend of gold but one situation creates loyalty and the other creates posts like this.

Smokes
05-01-2014, 11:35 AM
If I wanted to spend my money to play the lottery, I WOULD PLAY THE DAMN LOTTERY!!!

These random drop events are ridiculous!

KCUF
05-01-2014, 12:19 PM
Lottery games are not allowed in many countries. You buy gold with real money, like buying chips in a online casino. That's illeagal.
It won't take long before the game is taken down in these countries.

Misty GFY
05-01-2014, 01:16 PM
Lottery games are not allowed in many countries. You buy gold with real money, like buying chips in a online casino. That's illeagal.
It won't take long before the game is taken down in these countries.

soo right !

GucciMane
05-01-2014, 01:21 PM
I have to agree with the OP.

Gree, if you wanted the boss to be a gold event why not just increase the hp of the boss?

Why do you have to ruin a perfectly good event by turning it into a glorified slot machine?


You remove a lot of integrity of the game when you have the prizes work through random chance.

Nick010
05-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Totally agree with OP. Why would I even keep spending if huge rewards like this are all about being Lucky?

I love tacos
05-01-2014, 01:39 PM
I have to agree with the OP.

Gree, if you wanted the boss to be a gold event why not just increase the hp of the boss?

Why do you have to ruin a perfectly good event by turning it into a glorified slot machine?


You remove a lot of integrity of the game when you have the prizes work through random chance. Glorified slot machine…LMAO:):)

mxz
05-01-2014, 01:41 PM
Lottery games are not allowed in many countries. You buy gold with real money, like buying chips in a online casino. That's illeagal.
It won't take long before the game is taken down in these countries.The games been going on for almost 3 years - lotteries and gambling involve a chance to win real money. Maybe I missed it, but CC has never advertised or alluded to winning anything similar to a legal public currency.

Chowda
05-01-2014, 01:45 PM
The only thing that would save this random drop is to let us choose the level of Epic Boss like we can for Raid Boss farming.

nabil
05-01-2014, 02:27 PM
Alot of people are leaving cc hope soon will be closed that s**t of game alot bugs alldays syn is locked lost of energy too slow during rb too much expensive gold too much energy for ltq they aren't fun now

Rjc
05-01-2014, 02:41 PM
This is one of the best posts ever. The "chance" aspect of this game is very frustrating. 5 day event, 150 boss wins. But you can't get items to drop. It creates true frustration. Which is not good for a game.

Smuuve
05-01-2014, 02:59 PM
The games been going on for almost 3 years - lotteries and gambling involve a chance to win real money. Maybe I missed it, but CC has never advertised or alluded to winning anything similar to a legal public currency.

EXACTLY, its not gambling if you have no chance at all to win anything. Light pixels do not count as "winning" anything.

kimberleyj
05-01-2014, 03:43 PM
i don't like the chance part of it. i did about 108 bosses and only got 5 per cent attack and was stuck on 2/3 on the other two goals on my free account (funny enough the only weapons i needed was the first weapon's on each goal) . i manged to do two out of the three goals on my main and i only got to lvl 85. surely i should have got the gun with the 10 per cent on my free account seen as i did over 100 bosses. people are not gonna want to waste their gold not knowing rather or not their money is gonna get them the weapon , it just angers people and this is a game it should be fun not a chore.

also i would like to know why us lvl 250's are given such a rough time on the bosses (you shouldn't punish your loyal paying customers). i used a little gold to get to 85 it is just too hard and it sucks the fun out having to wait so long to be full to hit a boss and having to set timers to make sure you hit him every time you have enough health .

H8er-aid
05-01-2014, 04:15 PM
As long as you guys bought gold on sale gree is happy and did there job.

General Dudus
05-01-2014, 05:38 PM
As long as you guys bought gold on sale gree is happy and did there job.
+1
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Flapjacks
05-01-2014, 05:57 PM
Lottery games are not allowed in many countries. You buy gold with real money, like buying chips in a online casino. That's illeagal.
It won't take long before the game is taken down in these countries.

Kampa Gacha.

Read about it; it's Gree's calling card. Everything they do is based off of this system. Sadly, customer loyalty/satisfaction is not a Gree calling card.

Play for free. In this game, First place is last place.

KizbotBro
05-02-2014, 06:52 AM
First place is last place! I love it.

Kampa gacha is precisely it. It makes a lot of money and it is all a matter of taste. They are channelling the spending in this game towards people that simply have to get the prize at any cost.ie people with a problem.

They may lose customers, but they will gain a ton from people who enjoy that kind of entertainment. Dont believe me? Slot machines are always busy in casinos.

Flapjacks
05-02-2014, 12:18 PM
First place is last place! I love it.

Kampa gacha is precisely it. It makes a lot of money and it is all a matter of taste. They are channelling the spending in this game towards people that simply have to get the prize at any cost.ie people with a problem.

They may lose customers, but they will gain a ton from people who enjoy that kind of entertainment. Dont believe me? Slot machines are always busy in casinos.

Nice, finally a person who "gets it."

Hey, at least slot machines actually reward the consumer with "real" money. To each their own.

mia201
05-03-2014, 01:35 AM
Lottery games are not allowed in many countries. You buy gold with real money, like buying chips in a online casino. That's illeagal.
It won't take long before the game is taken down in these countries.

Gree's exact same practice has been banned permanently in Japan

KCUF
05-03-2014, 11:36 AM
The games been going on for almost 3 years - lotteries and gambling involve a chance to win real money. Maybe I missed it, but CC has never advertised or alluded to winning anything similar to a legal public currency.

Because these events are luck based, not skill based, is what makes them gambling.

The argument that you cannot take money out of a the game is not true due to real money transfer. (accounts are sold for real money and uzis too). An account is worth real money. You cannot sell them ingame for real cash, but outside the game you can. That's why in my opinion this game is illegal gambling.

mxz
05-04-2014, 07:15 AM
Because these events are luck based, not skill based, is what makes them gambling.

The argument that you cannot take money out of a the game is not true due to real money transfer. (accounts are sold for real money and uzis too). An account is worth real money. You cannot sell them ingame for real cash, but outside the game you can. That's why in my opinion this game is illegal gambling.Its nice you have an opinion but its wrong. Besides not being able to win anything material, there's no wager since its free to tap.