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whisper4
03-29-2014, 09:59 PM
Earlier today we lost to this guild. Let me know what you guys think. You can see they have no wins, they were also able to shuffle the order of their guild members in the battle list. Most of them share the name fairy, our lower level members work together to find a target they can beat. They found the 3rd high commander from the bottom to be their target, then all of a sudden the person in that slot changed to a harder target.... sounds weird, but that's what happened

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Sol Invictus
03-29-2014, 10:51 PM
What are these screenshots supposed to show?

Anyways, this is not a hack. If these people could hack, they'd have more than 400k points.

If this somehow is a hack, it's the silliest hack ever. But these types of things have been reported in the past. Can't remember what the explanation is. Changing names maybe. Or maybe they are just clever, and start out with weak armors to draw you in, and then put on better armors.

ShadowDash1089
03-29-2014, 11:00 PM
Earlier today we lost to this guild. Let me know what you guys think. You can see they have no wins, they were also able to shuffle the order of their guild members in the battle list. Most of them share the name fairy, our lower level members work together to find a target they can beat. They found the 3rd high commander from the bottom to be their target, then all of a sudden the person in that slot changed to a harder target.... sounds weird, but that's what happened

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Oh i know it. Its a hack called "strategy", not gonna explain how it works

ZerotheHero
03-30-2014, 12:09 AM
Earlier today we lost to this guild. Let me know what you guys think. You can see they have no wins, they were also able to shuffle the order of their guild members in the battle list. Most of them share the name fairy, our lower level members work together to find a target they can beat. They found the 3rd high commander from the bottom to be their target, then all of a sudden the person in that slot changed to a harder target.... sounds weird, but that's what happened

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I'll help ya out. When you have multiple members with the same name, their order changes in the battle list. It's just a game mechanism. That's why when you face guilds like that, you have to note things like the battle log for how many points each individual may have, and more importantly, distinguishable characteristics like capes or male/female from the SHADOW of them. You know. That image you get when you pick someone you want to fight, where it shows a dark outline of their figure on the left, and yours on the right. It's like the "are you sure you want to fight this person" screen.

Conget
03-30-2014, 12:28 AM
He is referring 0 wins 0 lose and still 900 points

TehOnlyOne
03-30-2014, 12:37 AM
Sure seems very odd, how the members have 0 wins and 0 losses and still able to rack up points.

It could be a hack, or a glitch/bug in the game which messes the players score.

-Another thing I noticed, on the first image the Fairy Tale guild had a "dark prince key" next to their name? Is that possible?

Sol Invictus
03-30-2014, 02:18 AM
As for game icons in names and whatnot, the GM of Wolves of Calla told me this comes from a special character she used on the keyboard on her tablet, probably some kind of unicode character, which then becomes a DPC or icon for one of the elements.

I'm guessing this is also how the guild whose name is just a fireball does it.

How they consistently get points without ever getting wins or losses...I have no idea.



On a semi-related note...if you ever fight Wolves of Calla. Smash the GM. She has fairly weak armors. Members of her guild have much better armors than she does.

busteroaf
03-30-2014, 02:26 AM
"We lost to these guys and can't win. Assume they are hacking and cheating, and call them out on the forums."

Next?

King juju
03-30-2014, 04:31 AM
Wow I love how these ignorant people totally miss what was obvious in these pictures. They had 0 wins and 12k points. That why he thinks they hacked.

whisper4
03-30-2014, 05:20 AM
What are these screenshots supposed to show?

Anyways, this is not a hack. If these people could hack, they'd have more than 400k points.

If this somehow is a hack, it's the silliest hack ever. But these types of things have been reported in the past. Can't remember what the explanation is. Changing names maybe. Or maybe they are just clever, and start out with weak armors to draw you in, and then put on better armors.

Seriously! The screenshots CLEARLY show they all have points with no wins.
If, yes if, it is a hack, they would be slow playing it as to not draw attention to themselves, hacker 101.

whisper4
03-30-2014, 05:27 AM
"We lost to these guys and can't win. Assume they are hacking and cheating, and call them out on the forums."

Next?

Wow, you see the question mark? Did you bother looking at the pictures? Notice they didnt win a single fight. I mearly put this out there to get people opinion. This is why I usually dont bother with forums, the ignorant people like you

sxespanky
03-30-2014, 05:58 AM
Wow, you see the question mark? Did you bother looking at the pictures? Notice they didnt win a single fight. I mearly put this out there to get people opinion. This is why I usually dont bother with forums, the ignorant people like you

this happens nearly every war - the servers cannot keep up with win/loss numbers. many times people dont show up. it happens dude. chill out.

tshell
03-30-2014, 08:50 AM
The lower point totals are easily possible from hitting the gate. It doesn't show as an attack. For the 12k....that I'm a little more skeptical about. If you have the gems to get 12k from hitting a gate, you should have good enough armors to not hit the gate.

Reginnin
03-30-2014, 09:12 AM
Our guild fought these guys too.....their top scorer was the same with me...no wins or losses
But scored over 10000 pts....I assumed it was just a glitch in the win/loss tracker as I was following the battle log and it was all showing up there. ????

busteroaf
03-30-2014, 11:42 AM
Our guild fought these guys too.....their top scorer was the same with me...no wins or losses
But scored over 10000 pts....I assumed it was just a glitch in the win/loss tracker as I was following the battle log and it was all showing up there. ????

If it showed in the log as them fighting battles, then clearly they are not hacking and it's a glitch not recording/reporting wins and losses properly, and nothing more.

If nothing is showing in the log, then yes, let the hacking accusations fly.

Also, as states many times by the mods, pm them or send in tickets. You shouldn't be calling out guilds/players on the forums. If it turns out it wasn't a case of them hacking, you've already done damage to their rep, and that's just not a nice thing to do.

Mogath
03-30-2014, 05:49 PM
If it showed in the log as them fighting battles, then clearly they are not hacking and it's a glitch not recording/reporting wins and losses properly, and nothing more.

If nothing is showing in the log, then yes, let the hacking accusations fly.

Also, as states many times by the mods, pm them or send in tickets. You shouldn't be calling out guilds/players on the forums. If it turns out it wasn't a case of them hacking, you've already done damage to their rep, and that's just not a nice thing to do.



Your first post could have EASILY explained that but you chose the route of being an ignorant keyboard warrior. When someone, especially a guild who plays the same game as you is asking a question AND others are curious as well you would do best to inform thdm in a polite manner. The goal is to make this game better for everyone, if it means explaining something that you think is common sense you instantly so it and you do it as many times as needed. Lastly your first post was trollish and ignorant and you have the balls to tell people what is and isn't nice things to do? Hypocrisy at its finest.

With this said if this is a glitch in the game not showing win/losses it should be in a post by a mod and it should even be an announcement in the game to let people know.

bosskiller
03-30-2014, 06:45 PM
The lower point totals are easily possible from hitting the gate. It doesn't show as an attack. For the 12k....that I'm a little more skeptical about. If you have the gems to get 12k from hitting a gate, you should have good enough armors to not hit the gate.

That's exactly what I was going to say. When I see guildmates hit the gate (in the past, not very recently) it doesn't count against their win loss record. However, I don't know how they would have got that many points from attacking the gate....

Probably just another glitch. I remember a glitch in the past where a bunch of guilds win/loss records got reset.

EljayK
03-30-2014, 08:09 PM
It's probably a guild wide glitch. Like everyone said already.

I had about 6 members with only 10 fights and about 5k points after our first few hours. For some reason a whole battle wasn't recorded at all.

Dark Prince
03-30-2014, 09:16 PM
Its just a GW bug happens on IOS sometimes aswell

busteroaf
03-30-2014, 09:41 PM
Your first post could have EASILY explained that but you chose the route of being an ignorant keyboard warrior. When someone, especially a guild who plays the same game as you is asking a question AND others are curious as well you would do best to inform thdm in a polite manner. The goal is to make this game better for everyone, if it means explaining something that you think is common sense you instantly so it and you do it as many times as needed. Lastly your first post was trollish and ignorant and you have the balls to tell people what is and isn't nice things to do? Hypocrisy at its finest.

With this said if this is a glitch in the game not showing win/losses it should be in a post by a mod and it should even be an announcement in the game to let people know.

Seriously?

You're busting my balls over my post, when the thread started with the sound of "we found an easy target, but suddenly they got harder" (possibly changed armors?) and "they have no wins but they have points" (again, another "are they hacking?" idea)... and the thread title even mentions the word hack. Like I said, whether intentional or not, they were calling them hackers before you even get into your post. Then reading the above couple ideas, and it didn't seem as much of a "hey guys, what could be happening?" and more "hey, they're hacking, someone confirm my suspicions." Sol, and others answered and said it wasn't hacking, and explained it. And yet still others said it sounded fishy. I decided to answer in the politest way possible, for those that still thought it was a hack. My apologies I didn't come right out and play the nice guy keyboard hippie... instead, I'm clearly the ignorant one, who knows nothing about the game, and clearly just trolling everyone. Which, people responded... so, if I was, it worked. Then in the next post, they're asking about seeing the pictures, and the question mark in your sentence. Yes, I saw the pictures. I didn't even need to see the pictures to know its just a bug that happens. The pictures posted didn't have any hacking proof, or anything that would help someone decide, yes, they were hacking. Speaking of question marks, if I say "Whisper4 and Mogath... idiots?" Does it sound like I'm asking a question, or calling them idiots? See my point?

You're right, its my job to be the nice guy and explain everything, the nicest way possible, to the people who are clearly uninformed, over, and over, and over. Been there, done that. Do you like repeating yourself multiple times? Likely not, and neither do I. My second post was a little nicer, confirmed by someone who said they saw the same thing happen, but the battles were showing in the battle log, thus... not hackers.

And talking about me being a hypocrite? You're calling me a keyboard warrior in a post doing nothing but bashing me because I made one post you didn't like. You need to chill out pot, and meet kettle.

As for the mods making a post about it, as also mentioned in other posts, it has happened before, so again, it isn't a major issue. If it was, they WOULD have posted something, once it was brought to their attention, and proved to be a hack.