"The best income pr hourHOOD", but was is your LvL. The first "virgin NC"at what LvL?

[amateur]

Just asking cuz im courios..or what the name is.. Personaly i have started over cC many times, got my NC at lvl 110 first time and played aprx 6 months.. then at lvl 30ish. Started over again and got it at level 29 now im lvl 60. The ice rink is my first lTb, cant remember what month..can somebody help me?
So how "old" was your account before it got the virgin NC?

[CCC-syn]

I guess time have changed.
I got my NC at level 100…
Took me 4 months to get it to level 4. And then, with the new rivals list, it took me 1 month to get one NC to level 6 :-D

[amateur]

Ok nice. :) but why have rival list changed things.?

[amateur]

Im always high here..lol

[Skywall]

I got my NC way early. My signature is old, but if you check below I am probably the only person in Crime City that has that kind of IPH for the level. I've been camping for two years.

[Deadwater]

I got my NC way early. My signature is old, but if you check below I am probably the only person in Crime City that has that kind of IPH for the level. I've been camping for two years.

6m IPH isn't great at all. Regardless of level. After two years your IPH should be higher.

[bravo 6 vk]

I got my first NC at level 93. Around 6 months back I think. Now, I have 2 NC's at level 4.

[Fredfreddy]

What happened to that person who claimed to be the strongest L1 that existed? Think he had some NCs. He was loud for about 2 weeks then disappeared...

[amateur]

Skywall; wow..you must get robbed alot?:) Or are you alone on rival list..? Lol.

[amateur]

I got my first NC at level 93. Around 6 months back I think. Now, I have 2 NC's at level 4.

What was your iph back then? :)

[amateur]

6m IPH isn't great at all. Regardless of level. After two years your IPH should be higher.

Doent have all the buildings at level 36

[amateur]

6m IPH isn't great at all. Regardless of level. After two years your IPH should be higher.

Doent have all the buildings at level 36

[murf]

6m IPH isn't great at all. Regardless of level. After two years your IPH should be higher.

I don't entirely agree...He's only level 36....All those middle building are very important for mid stage IPH growth....right now he's stuck with end-game buildings (NCs and LTBs) and crap (Lofts, Mts & Dominicans are his best other buildings, and my guess is they are all L10 for a long time)...so he's either upgrading Pizza Parlors or WSFG. That's not an easy barbell strategy.

[bravo 6 vk]

What was your iph back then? :)

I was at 110k i think before getting that NC.
Now, at 1.9mil lol

[Zendfrim]

I can't decipher what the OP means with his incoherent speech but my second nightclub was level 10 mid November of 2012, a full month at least before my nearest successor to such accomplishment. I had started the NC climb at about 250,000 an hour. Ah, the good old days. Leaches were subdued and relatively humble... Income flowed unimpeeded.

I was level 105 ish.

[Muj]

first NC on mini was on L50ish, with main it was about L155, played for 2 years on main now.
Now mini is 85 with Lvl 5 NCs and main is 189 with L6s

[CCKallDAY]

I got to 2M IPH without a nc, I didn't know what I was doing, and I bought 2 NC's now my IPH is at 5M

[cynicalmofo]

My first NC was at level 1 - Still camping there on one account without beating up Davis or completing the tutorial. Got both of them to level 8 after about a year of collecting every 7 or 8 hours. All other buildings available are at level 10 already. Shame you don't get LTB's there really.

[amateur]

I can't decipher what the OP means with his incoherent speech but my second nightclub was level 10 mid November of 2012, a full month at least before my nearest successor to such accomplishment. I had started the NC climb at about 250,000 an hour. Ah, the good old days. Leaches were subdued and relatively humble... Income flowed unimpeeded.

I was level 105 ish.

My english is bad, i know.. i started over again when ice rink was LTB..doent know how long time ago that was..?and got my FIRST NC at level29 this time ,with and iph of 70k. Think its much more easy to build iph with an early NC, i soon have my second carage Ltb now..happy so far with my iph. But more happy when igot my first NC. Hehe.

[amateur]

I got to 2M IPH without a nc, I didn't know what I was doing, and I bought 2 NC's now my IPH is at 5M

Wow,, thats sick..lol

[reticlover]

I got my NC way early. My signature is old, but if you check below I am probably the only person in Crime City that has that kind of IPH for the level. I've been camping for two years.

what are your current stats on your accounts. i have a lvl 26 thats at 2.9m atk

[amateur]

what are your current stats on your accounts. i have a lvl 26 thats at 2.9m atk
Only getting syn bonuses and battle loot?

[Skywall]

I used to get robed a lot before the new rivals list change. No one is even close to my level IPH wise, so I don't get attacked but MAYBE once every two weeks. MAYBE.

[Skywall]

what are your current stats on your accounts. i have a lvl 26 thats at 2.9m atk

1.42/1.65 for my level 36. I'm not sure about my other account. I am currently in Afghanistan and I can only have 1 device logged in at a time.

Logged into the internet that is.

[amateur]

Rob my hood please !!!



Stats in the 8 - 12m range.

No strings attached.

PM me for details.

Why not post that on the forum..it should be taken care of then

[DirtBagCronin]

What does nc stand for?

[chaosxxx]

NC-nightclub

[DirtBagCronin]

Oh wow that's almost too obvious... Wonder why I was over thinking it

[Andrew Apple Maffia]

Oh wow that's almost too obvious... Wonder why I was over thinking it

Haha i was on page 2 and then get it ..

[wrestler84]

I got my first NC around lvl100 now at lvl141 and both NCs are lvl6

[Morgz]

Im not sure if I just suck at this game, or if the thought of camping that hard just seems un-appealing and no fun.
level 95
attack: 2.41 mil
def: 2.77 mil
iph: $92954

I don't forsee being able to get a NC anytime soon. I'm around 15 mil cash on hand, but keep spending upgrading my current stuff

so how awful are my stats for a regular, non camping player?

[Lil_Eugenie]

Honestly nowadays, they aren't that great :/ sorry to have to tell ya. You should try to stop leveling up and join a syndicate.. p.m. me if you are looking for a start up... my mini is lvl 46 3.1M, I dont play that one often tho.. that phone is old old..
There's still plenty of opportunity to get your stats up tho. Keep playin n try not to waste your money

[CCC-syn]

Ok nice. :) but why have rival list changed things.?
sorry for the late reply -
the new rivals list changed everything!
i used to rob 1 million a day... and now i rob 100 million a day

[amateur]

Im not sure if I just suck at this game, or if the thought of camping that hard just seems un-appealing and no fun.
level 95
attack: 2.41 mil
def: 2.77 mil
iph: $92954

I don't forsee being able to get a NC anytime soon. I'm around 15 mil cash on hand, but keep spending upgrading my current stuff

so how awful are my stats for a regular, non camping player?

Im level 59. Have played since ice rink was LTB. Got my first NC when i was level 29, around 40 days after beginning. Advice for you is to save your money for NC, your iph will jump 30k then.. then save for the second..you cant build your iph faster by upgrading the lofts and MT..and doent build new buildings before you have afford upgrading them to level 10 in one week.

[therealbengie]

night clubs are only good for robbing, I gave up upgrading mine a long time ago at L2/L4, 24/48 buildings and LTB's are far more rewarding, especially the LTB's due to the far quicker upgrade time.

[CCC-syn]

night clubs are only good for robbing, I gave up upgrading mine a long time ago at L2/L4, 24/48 buildings and LTB's are far more rewarding, especially the LTB's due to the far quicker upgrade time.
so much bull**** in a single sentence...

plz read my guide (especially the part about building types):
http://ccc.tfn.co.il/hood-guide.php

[therealbengie]

so much bull**** in a single sentence...

plz read my guide (especially the part about building types):
http://ccc.tfn.co.il/hood-guide.php

so much idiot in one post, go play your game how you want and think its the best way(there is no best way). for me nightclubs are virtually useless as I only collect maximum 2.5 times a day and the upgrades take ridiculous amounts of time and money compared to LTB's. from my 6's I collected max 10mil a day yet I get 100mil a day from my 12/24 alone, I am currently upgrading my second pagoda to 9(one is 10 already) and that upgrade takes 36 hours.

for the same cash investment my pagoda pays out nearly 3x that of a nightclub with significantly shorter upgrade time, you can virtually get both pagoda's to L10 for the same time/money investment as one nightclub to L10 but with easier collection.

[CCC-syn]

so much idiot in one post, go play your game how you want and think its the best way(there is no best way). for me nightclubs are virtually useless as I only collect maximum 2.5 times a...
...
for the same cash investment my pagoda pays out nearly 3x that of a nightclub with significantly shorter upgrade time, you can virtually get both pagoda's to L10 for the same time/money investment as one nightclub to L10 but with easier collection.
dude have u ever heard the phrase "if you don't know what you're talking about then better say nothing"?

the pagoda has changed to type-A and is NOT like any other ltb.
ROI of ltbs is freakin crazy! the nightclub (and its upgrades) pays itself back within 2 months by average... the LTBs pay themself back within 6-12 months!!!
only if u plane to play at least 2 more years then u may invest in the ltbs.

also all new ltbs have crappy collection cycle! 18h or 20h and other weird cycles that u can't time their collection.

you talking about the time it takes to upgrade?!?! who cares?!?!
whether it takes a day or a week to upgrade, u have to play at least 100 days until the building is worth its cost!

the nightclub has the highest IPH in the game! and u should be able to collect it 3 times a day easily!
i (for example) don't often get robbed during the night so i manage to collect my nightclubs 4 times a day.
and it is not that hard to put 4 alarm clocks during the day to get 1 minutes inside the game and collect.

you can't argue with facts.
nightclub has highest iph - fact!
you can time nightclub's collectings (and can't time any of the ltbs since shiners-still) - fact!
nightclub is type-A and all ltbs (except the pagoda) are not - fact!
nightclub has 3 times more iph than any ltb (including the pagoda) - fact!
even if the nightclub gets robbed once a day it still has the best iph - fact!

[therealbengie]

such a tool.

I work 10 hour rotating shifts - FACT
I am able to collect 6hr buildings twice a day at best - FACT
the nightclubs don't work for my play style - FACT
12/24/48 are easier to collect 100% - FACT


maybe you should take your own advice and STFU about things that you nothing about? For ME all 12/24/48 buildings are more valuable than anything else which why I concentrate on them and as a result I make far greater return from them than I ever could from 6hr buildings, hell I make better return on 18/20/26 hour buildings than 6's!!

[J4CK D4N13L N0 7]

such a tool.

I work 10 hour rotating shifts - FACT
I am able to collect 6hr buildings twice a day at best - FACT
the nightclubs don't work for my play style - FACT
12/24/48 are easier to collect 100% - FACT


maybe you should take your own advice and STFU about things that you nothing about? For ME all 12/24/48 buildings are more valuable than anything else which why I concentrate on them and as a result I make far greater return from them than I ever could from 6hr buildings, hell I make better return on 18/20/26 hour buildings than 6's!!

so true. It depends if you can collect. when i started trying to improve my iph (its still crap!) everyone said do nightclubs first. but I can only get my 1pm and 7pm collections. so its benefit is lost, especially if I miss one of them too.

whereas my casinos I collect every day at the same time, conveniently when my alarm goes off for work. if you factor in what i actually collect from all my other buildings after they are robbed, there is no doubt my 24hrs are my best buildings.

if the rivals list hadnt changed then yes, if you were a higher stat player for your level, then of course the nightcllubs were the best building. all depends on your playing trends

[CCC-syn]

this is not a win or lose - i just wanted to show him that the Nightclub IS the best building that gree has made (has best stats).

if it isn't suitable for a specific player then of course he should buy other buildings.
but don't recommend other ppl not to buy it just because it doesn't suit you.
i just think it's odd u can't get into the game for only 1 minute just to collect the NCs.

J4CK D4N13L, u wrote that the Casino works better for you - but i was talking more about LTBs.
the casino is the second best building in the game (lol) but it is unlocked too late...

Bengie, i would love to know what kind of buildings do u have that output 24h?
because the only buildings that are better than NC, for someone that can enter the game only twice a day, are Palm Hotel and Casino (and the 1st one requires unreasonable amount of gold). and all LTBs that have 12/24h hours cycle are very old and only long time players might have got them. so they aren't an option for 70% of the community.
your hood can't live only on 2 buildings (6 at best, with ltbs).

[J4CK D4N13L N0 7]

this is not a win or lose - i just wanted to show him that the Nightclub IS the best building that gree has made (has best stats).

if it isn't suitable for a specific player then of course he should buy other buildings.
but don't recommend other ppl not to buy it just because it doesn't suit you.
i just think it's odd u can't get into the game for only 1 minute just to collect the NCs.

J4CK D4N13L, u wrote that the Casino works better for you - but i was talking more about LTBs.
the casino is the second best building in the game (lol) but it is unlocked too late...

Bengie, i would love to know what kind of buildings do u have that output 24h?
because the only buildings that are better than NC, for someone that can enter the game only twice a day, are Palm Hotel and Casino (and the 1st one requires unreasonable amount of gold). and all LTBs that have 12/24h hours cycle are very old and only long time players might have got them. so they aren't an option for 70% of the community.
your hood can't live only on 2 buildings (6 at best, with ltbs).

ah ok I see what you mean.
As you say its all about situation, as a new player now then yes the best buildings are NightClub and future LTBs.
If you are a higher level player looking to improve iph then casinos and ltbs - west side fine gems - probably best 'relatively recent' LTB due to 22hr collection time. (much better than 18hrs in my opinion)
If you can get on to collect nightclubs 3/4 times then there is no situation where they aren't the best building.

[amateur]

sorry for the late reply -
the new rivals list changed everything!
i used to rob 1 million a day... and now i rob 100 million a day

Yeah..i think the new rival list is awsome too.

[amateur]

first NC on mini was on L50ish, with main it was about L155, played for 2 years on main now.
Now mini is 85 with Lvl 5 NCs and main is 189 with L6s

Wow. Very nice. Im level 59 with main acc

[Skywall]

Level 36 with two level 8 Nightclubs.

[amateur]

Level 36 with two level 8 Nightclubs.


Thats pretty good, mr. How many months you been been playin?

[therealbengie]

Sorry Bengie, you lose the argument.

the point I was actually making was that there is no best way to play the game, the best way is what suits you best.


that said I still don't think nightclubs are as great as people make out, they always in the top 3 of the list target wise regardless of level to robbers and if you have a life getting 4 collections a day is virtually impossible.

its impossible for me to check my phone at work unless on break for 2 reasons, firstly its a production facility I work in so there is no down time and also I only get signal in the break room.

[therealbengie]

this is not a win or lose - i just wanted to show him that the Nightclub IS the best building that gree has made (has best stats).

that is opinion, not fact. when you say the "stats" of a building you must take into account the payout cycle which for most is a problem on the 6hr buildings, this dramatically reduces the return on these buildings.

you also said upgrade time isn't relevant, this is absurd as with back to back LTB's a week long upgrade is a logistical nightmare, how often are there posts on here from people moaning that they have just started a night club upgrade when an unannounced LTB pops up, bang they have lost a week of a time critical event!

as per my sig I've been here for a long time, among the longest serving players now so have all the good 12/24/48 buildings, I was here before events let alone syndicates.
my bulk group of 24's are as follows:-

2x L10 basket ball court
2x rock café L3/4
2x condo L8/5
2x loft L10/6
2x L10 movie theatres
2x toyshop L7/3

my 24's are numerous!

2x transtech L5/3
2x fishstore L1/3(garbage)
1x meat factory L4(garbage)
2x L6 house(garbage)
2x throwback arcade L10/1
2x slice rink L10/1
2x Dominican restaurant L5/4(garbage)
2x L1 hotel
2x L2 magic playhouse(garbage)
2x L1 crematorium
2x upscale club L1/2
2x beachside inn L5/1
2x L4 casino
2x brownstone L7/1
2x palm hotel L4/2
2x gentlemans club L4/2
2x pawnshop L5/4(garbage)
2x pagoda L10/9

48 buildings are
2x dockside mill L3/1
2x L3 museum
2x L2 office building
2x internet company L9/4

I then have
2x WSFG L6/1
2x smoked fowl deli L8/1
2x NIS L5/1
2x to die for designs L10/1
2x chop shop L8/1
2x beachfront retreat L5/1
1x slay bells L7
1x shiners still L5
2x bloody barbershop L10/1
1x haunted mansion L10

[amateur]

[QUOTE=therealbengie;1250092]that is opinion, not fact. when you say the "stats" of a building you must take into account the payout cycle which for most is a problem on the 6hr buildings, this dramatically reduces the return on these buildings.

you also said upgrade time isn't relevant, this is absurd as with back to back LTB's a week long upgrade is a logistical nightmare, how often are there posts on here from people moaning that they have just started a night club upgrade when an unannounced LTB pops up, bang they have lost a week of a time critical event!

as per my sig I've been here for a long time, among the longest serving players now so have all the good 12/24/48 buildings, I was here before events let alone syndicates.
my bulk group of 24's are as follows:-

Why is it a problem to collect NC 2 times aday? Can only get better..lol..

[Atlanta]

I have 2x lvl 10 night clubs that make 36m every time I collect ontime... So if I get 2 on time collections and 1 robbed collection that gives me 14m I will make at least 86m a day from them... Both of my lvl 10 pagodas make 50 mil a day if I collect on time...


I think having high lvl night clubs are essential to getting your ltbs to a high lvl... Plain and simple the nightclubs > all others...

[CCC-syn]

you also said upgrade time isn't relevant, this is absurd as with back to back LTB's a week long upgrade is a logistical nightmare, how often are there posts on here from people moaning that they have just started a night club upgrade when an unannounced LTB pops up, bang they have lost a week of a time critical event!

i totally agree.
but i thought we were talking money-wise.

regarding your buildings:
most of the ltbs are so old (8-9 months ago) that almost no one has them.
and all other 24h buildings that u wrote (all combined) aren't as good as my NCs even if i were collecting them only twice a day.

btw, do u realize that your Toy Box and both of your Transtech Buildings haven't finished paying back for themselves??
if you wouldn't have bought them in the first place you would have more money now!
only players that know they are going to commit to the game for more than 13 months should upgrade those.

[murf]

therealbengie, & CCC-syn both make valid points...

NC is the best building in the game, however maybe not if you can only collect 1.4 x's (1 robbed, 1 full)...The only way to do this is to build a simple spreadsheet and only use 35% (1.4 / 4) of the payout for nightclubs and see how they compare to 100% of the payout for LTBs and Casinos, etc....I know someone built one for the forum a long time ago, but I can't remember who the posted was

Secondly, upgrade time is very important, but only if you have unlimited cash....I make over $650m/day and even I can't continually upgrade my WSFG and NIS's. My WSFG to L9, will cost me $3.9B (30% reduction) and only take 52 hrs (25% & 3% reduction) to upgrade. I will only have made $1.4B during that upgrade, so I can't turn around an upgrade it to L10 or even my other one to L9. This is when the NC's long upgrade times are ok. You get to do a very high ROI upgrade while replenishing your bank to do upgrades which are better return on upgrade hours.

This argument of ROI (increase in IPH / upgrade cost) vs $$/hr/hr (increase in IPH / upgrade time) is a balancing act and has been debated on this forum ever since LTBs started.

[Morgz]

Im level 59. Have played since ice rink was LTB. Got my first NC when i was level 29, around 40 days after beginning. Advice for you is to save your money for NC, your iph will jump 30k then.. then save for the second..you cant build your iph faster by upgrading the lofts and MT..and doent build new buildings before you have afford upgrading them to level 10 in one week.

Thanks for responding. I didn't think anyone would...lol. What is "MT"? Also, are you saying I should be able to upgrade a lot of buildings to level 10 in one week? I think the only things I have at 10 are the throwback arcade LTB from 2 months ago, a pawn shop, ice cream shop and a low end defense building. Seems like ALL of those took longer than a week each. Are you saying I should spend gold to upgrade faster? I don't use much gold.

I try to read as much as I can on these forums...especially the how to guides. The problem I have is a lot of the old timers use abbreviations and vernacular that I haven't figured out yet (like MT).

Also, can someone explained what a type A building is? Is there also a Type B? C? What's the difference?

[Skywall]

Thats pretty good, mr. How many months you been been playin?

Almost two years.

[murf]

Thanks for responding. I didn't think anyone would...lol. What is "MT"? Also, are you saying I should be able to upgrade a lot of buildings to level 10 in one week? I think the only things I have at 10 are the throwback arcade LTB from 2 months ago, a pawn shop, ice cream shop and a low end defense building. Seems like ALL of those took longer than a week each. Are you saying I should spend gold to upgrade faster? I don't use much gold.

I try to read as much as I can on these forums...especially the how to guides. The problem I have is a lot of the old timers use abbreviations and vernacular that I haven't figured out yet (like MT).

Also, can someone explained what a type A building is? Is there also a Type B? C? What's the difference?

MT is Movie Theater....

Type A vs Type B buildings are how the payouts progress...Here are the first three levels to give you an idea: Type A = 1x, 3x, 6x. Type B = 1x, 2x, 3.5x.

So you can that Type A can be very powerful to build your income. Type A buildings are a few starter ones. Then Italians, MTs, Lofts, NCs and Pagodas. These buildings help build your IPH faster.

Not sure what the other poster is talking about with upgrading to L10 in a week. Always be building and upgrading.

[CCC-syn]

Murf, u make 650m a day?!?!
And u say it's not enough… that's unbelievable!
I make (after robbing) 100m :'(

My question for u is how often do your WSFG and NIS get robbed?

[Morgz]

Thanks Murf! I am constantly building and upgrading something. I think I just get a little confused as to what to do next, and also a little impatient with the longer builds and upgrades. Thanks for the info on the type A vs type B. I would think the obvious answer for me right now is to focus on the type A buildings.

Are pagodas an older limited time building? I see them in rival hoods on rare occasion, but can't find where to buy one

[Morgz]

Murf, u make 650m a day?!?!
And u say it's not enough… that's unbelievable!
I make (after robbing) 100m :'(

My question for u is how often do your WSFG and NIS get robbed?
I just checked out the guide you have linked in your sig. I like it because you don't get too complex. I've seen some other spreadsheets that are loaded with info that is probably great, but a little overwhelming for a newer player. Your's is very direct

[murf]

Murf, u make 650m a day?!?!
And u say it's not enough… that's unbelievable!
I make (after robbing) 100m :'(

My question for u is how often do your WSFG and NIS get robbed?

I'm just saying $650m / day isn't enough to always upgrade my best $$/hr/hr building (increase in IPH / upgrade time). The high end LTBs (WSFG and NIS) have very quick upgrade times, not enough time to replenish all the money it cost to upgrade them. So, in between I have to a cheaper / longer upgrade like Casinos, Palms (or even NCs).

My WSFG get robbed infrequently because they (along with my 24's and some others) are the ones I make sure to collect regularly. So it gets robbed once a week or so. I can usually make it through a whole cycle, let it get robbed overnight, then collect first thing in the morning.

My NIS's get robbed every 4-5 days, if robbed I collect late at night and then every 20 hrs after, until they robbed overnight, then I leave them uncollected again all day and collect right before bed and start the cycle again.

[murf]

Thanks Murf! I am constantly building and upgrading something. I think I just get a little confused as to what to do next, and also a little impatient with the longer builds and upgrades. Thanks for the info on the type A vs type B. I would think the obvious answer for me right now is to focus on the type A buildings.

Are pagodas an older limited time building? I see them in rival hoods on rare occasion, but can't find where to buy one

Pagodas were the first LTB I think....

In general, I'd say the Type A building upgrades start to equate to Type B upgrades about 2 levels ahead. Meaning a Level 7 Type-A upgrade is similar to a Level 5 Type-B upgrade. That's being general but it's a rough rule of thumb.

[therealbengie]

my transtech's have only been upgraded during the event so iph increase wasn't the only reason for upgrading.

[Eddie Eagle Eye]

Took me about 12 months to get first NC on my camper account then another 24 months to get them both on lvl 9 , saving for lvl 10 now and I have managed to stay camped on lvl 9 too ;-)
Probably the biggest IPH for the lowest level I guess lol

[Molly's Voice]

Took me about 12 months to get first NC on my camper account then another 24 months to get them both on lvl 9 , saving for lvl 10 now and I have managed to stay camped on lvl 9 too ;-)
Probably the biggest IPH for the lowest level I guess lol

Yawn....

Why not just Sim City. Just my opinion, but if I'm gonna play a crime game I'm gonna play it like a boss.

[Eddie Eagle Eye]

Yawn....

Why not just Sim City. Just my opinion, but if I'm gonna play a crime game I'm gonna play it like a boss.
My main is the boss
camper is to be lowest lvl highest IPH

[RuckusXsuckuR]

Im not sure if I just suck at this game, or if the thought of camping that hard just seems un-appealing and no fun.
level 95
attack: 2.41 mil
def: 2.77 mil
iph: $92954

I don't forsee being able to get a NC anytime soon. I'm around 15 mil cash on hand, but keep spending upgrading my current stuff

so how awful are my stats for a regular, non camping player?

You should probably put some work into those pizza parlors ASAP