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Robert M
03-22-2014, 01:53 PM
Gree should keep all the LTB so when people have money they can purchase the buildings they are interested in. Not everyone has high IPH so it makes it harder for people to purchase high million buildings.

cmckinney716
03-22-2014, 01:59 PM
Then whats the point in a LTB? It should stay limited Time. build your iph

Ron burgundy no1
03-22-2014, 02:13 PM
I have been playing for under a year and have a fairly decent iph, well over 1mill and I can't afford to upgrade decent ltb's to a great level but I agree they should remain limited time only.

It's about the only advantage long time players have in this game now since all the attack and defence skill points got made useless and can't increase tree energy if their level250. You can't take this away from them as well.

Increase your iph and be patient, one day you will be able to afford them and upgrade them to a decent level

GFLEX
03-22-2014, 02:43 PM
I have been playing for under a year and have a fairly decent iph, well over 1mill and I can't afford to upgrade decent ltb's to a great level but I agree they should remain limited time only.

It's about the only advantage long time players have in this game now since all the attack and defence skill points got made useless and can't increase tree energy if their level250. You can't take this away from them as well.

Increase your iph and be patient, one day you will be able to afford them and upgrade them to a decent level

Why not just make the rewards the "limited time" aspect? As someone who missed out on every LTB prior to Big Top Burlesque, I would love to have the opportunity to make my hood look nice with those older LTBs.

therealbengie
03-22-2014, 02:46 PM
surely the name "Limited Time Building" means the building is available for a limited time?

Sick N Twisted.
03-22-2014, 02:54 PM
Stupid thread is stupid.

Robert M
03-22-2014, 02:57 PM
Then whats the point in a LTB? It should stay limited Time. build your iph

My IPH is decent almost 3 million. They keep the limited time buildings the way it is but the point is to purchase and upgrade to get rewards.

Ron burgundy no1
03-22-2014, 02:58 PM
Why not just make the rewards the "limited time" aspect? As someone who missed out on every LTB prior to Big Top Burlesque, I would love to have the opportunity to make my hood look nice with those older LTBs.

I'm in exactly the same boat, that was my first ltb I could buy but you have an advantage over players starting now have. People playing this game longer deserve to have a better iph. Especially after how the game has changed so much and there still playing and most of them probably still paying for gold to keep this game still going then you can't just give everyone the ltb's they have paid in money and time for because more we quit and eventually we won't have a play to play.

As newer players we have an advantage in terms of battles and gaining more ip points. Let them have the higher iph and we still have the oppurtunity to rob them ;)

RealTeflonDon
03-22-2014, 05:35 PM
Why not just make the rewards the "limited time" aspect? As someone who missed out on every LTB prior to Big Top Burlesque, I would love to have the opportunity to make my hood look nice with those older LTBs.

+1

This is coming from someone who has almost two of every LTB

Skywall
03-22-2014, 06:31 PM
Let me find my silver platter.

trickymicky
03-23-2014, 10:19 AM
so they should be unlimited time buildings??? sorry but this game caters to the new peeps too much already ,be glad you can compete with your unearned stats.

DoubleR7
03-23-2014, 10:46 AM
so they should be unlimited time buildings??? sorry but this game caters to the new peeps too much already ,be glad you can compete with your unearned stats.

You sound bitter...

DirtBagCronin
03-23-2014, 11:20 AM
I thinl they should be limited. I wouldn't mind seeing them bring them back for a short amount of time. Maybe no rewards but maybe release a schedule of a specific day each will be available so people would know what kind of money they would need to bank to be able to purchase the building.

kingofwale
03-23-2014, 11:23 AM
I have been playing for under a year and have a fairly decent iph, well over 1mill and I can't afford to upgrade decent ltb's to a great level but I agree they should remain limited time only.

It's about the only advantage long time players have in this game now since all the attack and defence skill points got made useless and can't increase tree energy if their level250. You can't take this away from them as well.

Increase your iph and be patient, one day you will be able to afford them and upgrade them to a decent level

I wouldn't consider over 1 mil to be "decent". i'm over 3 mil and is by far the worst in my syn.

DoubleR7
03-23-2014, 01:25 PM
IPH doesn't matter anymore. Nothing to do with the money. Ltbs don't mean anything anymore as any one can gain 2-4 million from one RB or EB

gambino gunz
03-23-2014, 01:32 PM
as a player with 2of each ltb exept for owning 0 dockside mills i also think ltbs should remain limited time only

Max Power
03-23-2014, 01:39 PM
Why not just make the rewards the "limited time" aspect? As someone who missed out on every LTB prior to Big Top Burlesque, I would love to have the opportunity to make my hood look nice with those older LTBs.

because the game was designed so that you had to have your time in to get the best buildings. I didn't level to 185 when I did because I wanted to be level 185, I did it because I wanted casinos. Making LTBs at all somewhat skews that, but I think there should be some degree of difficulty in getting the best buildings rather than have them just handed to you.

Ron burgundy no1
03-23-2014, 01:50 PM
I wouldn't consider over 1 mil to be "decent". i'm over 3 mil and is by far the worst in my syn.

How longer have you been playing and I'm under level 130 so can't get the higher level buildings yet

CREEP
03-23-2014, 02:13 PM
:p it'd be nice if everyone had em just for robbing purposes. But they're gonna remain "timed" which is the right thing to do. Hell if they weren't doing ltb's we'd still be stuck with the same old buildings since the game started. :p btw i have em all except dockside, suckers

Carloco
03-23-2014, 02:57 PM
Easiest thing to do. Allow all LTB available at level 250 for triple the original asking price. If you really want them you have to pay and level up.

kingofwale
03-23-2014, 03:05 PM
How longer have you been playing and I'm under level 130 so can't get the higher level buildings yet

too long. :(, but i'm in top 50 syn, so that might be different if you are not

huff-n-puff
03-23-2014, 04:17 PM
I've only been playing for a little over 2 months. I robbed and got enough money for the slice rink when I first started. It was cheap at $900k. The next one, the throwback arcade was cheap as well and I was able to buy that. The defense building was way too expensive for me and I was not able to buy it. I don't really know that I missed out because I am trying to build my IPH. I've been out robbing non-stop and have been able to build 2 of the chop shops. I am $4 million away from being able to upgrade one of them to a level 2 before it's over. My IPH before I got my chop shops was in the 50-60k range, I think. It's now $141k. I'm level 97 and leveling up fairly quickly in my opinion. My point is that these buildings are obtainable if you put in the work. I do think they should be limited time only.

DirtBagCronin
03-23-2014, 05:12 PM
Easiest thing to do. Allow all LTB available at level 250 for triple the original asking price. If you really want them you have to pay and level up.

+1
I like this idea

jerky62
03-24-2014, 05:53 PM
What they need to do is, revamp the store. New weapons and buildings. Take out the "Vulcan Blaster" (Att: 510 Def: 474 for 780 gold) Really? who would spend that much on 510/474 weapon? Rock Cafe? 175 gold for 110k payout in 12 hrs? Looks cool, but come on...

The jP
03-24-2014, 07:32 PM
When a new member joins, they should be given 2 of each LTB that they missed. Also, once built, we should get the rewards for lvls 2-10 automatically, and just be on the honor system that we'll actually reach lvl 10. We should also be able to purchase any modifier with in game cash.


But seriously, making previous LTB's available at lvl cap is a great idea.

GucciMane
03-24-2014, 09:17 PM
I'm missing the best income growth LTB around and I still don't want LTBs re-released.



What they need to do is, revamp the store. New weapons and buildings. Take out the "Vulcan Blaster" (Att: 510 Def: 474 for 780 gold) Really? who would spend that much on 510/474 weapon? Rock Cafe? 175 gold for 110k payout in 12 hrs? Looks cool, but come on...

I don't hate the rock cafe at all. It's still a nice supplement to my income, even though most of my buildings are in the millions in collection. I tend to throw up rock cafe or wedding chapel upgrades preferentially when I'm waiting for a WSFG/newLTB/NIS upgrade.




I've only been playing for a little over 2 months. I robbed and got enough money for the slice rink when I first started. It was cheap at $900k. The next one, the throwback arcade was cheap as well and I was able to buy that. The defense building was way too expensive for me and I was not able to buy it. I don't really know that I missed out because I am trying to build my IPH. I've been out robbing non-stop and have been able to build 2 of the chop shops. I am $4 million away from being able to upgrade one of them to a level 2 before it's over. My IPH before I got my chop shops was in the 50-60k range, I think. It's now $141k. I'm level 97 and leveling up fairly quickly in my opinion. My point is that these buildings are obtainable if you put in the work. I do think they should be limited time only.


Yep. And many of us came in when the LTBs were crazy steep.

I've had "proud owner of toy box" in my sig for almost a full year because I worked hard to rob an unprecedented amount (none/minimal iph/robbery mods back then) to get those 2x35M buildings when I only had 60-75k iph.


When you rob a level 1 pagoda now, you tend to get >$200K off that. When you robbed a level 1 pagoda a year ago, you only got $48-52k from it. New players are in the best time ever to rob players who were richer than back then, and yet they're still moaning about not being able to IPH.



The night club used to be an achievement. Now, it can be robbed in a day's time. Buildings like Transtech / Dockside Mill were *stupid* steep compared to the the rest of buildings out around that time, but most of us kept our heads down and iph'd if we could not afford it. Can't afford the LTB? Upgrade your lofts/NC. Players now are whining about getting old buildings, pretty sad tbh.


Many of them are the same players who join syndicate-independent "High IPH target rooms" and pass around rich targets to RIVAL syndicate players....It made no sense to me until I realized it's out of malicious intent to get these rich rivals to give up and sell off their buildings. Unfortunately for them, I'd leave my buildings uncollected before I sold off any of them, and most players with higher IPH than mine share similar sentiments.

polly
03-24-2014, 11:59 PM
It would be nice to be able to get the old ltb's, yes.

But they should not be put in the store permanently, I could see them as a week long special chance at getting (?) Ltb at same price and upgrade costs minus any rewards, as a last chance at them. Do 1 once a month during its anniversary or something. Even if it fell in at the same time as the new ltb's, it could be hard for some to get them still. I've seen other games give players the opportunity to get retired or limited items at a later date for special occasions.

Sleazy_P_Martini
03-25-2014, 01:45 AM
limited time does not mean never again. Look at the limited time gold sales...

I've got most, if not all ltb's. I would not be offended if they were re-released.

FlyMeMoon
03-25-2014, 06:15 AM
limited time does not mean never again. Look at the limited time gold sales...

I've got most, if not all ltb's. I would not be offended if they were re-released.

In this case it does because they were available for a limited time never to be seen again and, none have been seen since.

I'm sure this was also made clear when they were first launched.

It wouldn't surprise me if this changes though and will probably be rolled out in 2017 or so.

Someone made a good point re the store. It has been out of date for far too long along with other things. Its just worthless now. Buildings need to be revised and NC upgrade times need to come down. I dont want to say what a lot of people say but it just seems that the game experience is suffering because the focus is too skewed in one direction.

GucciMane
03-25-2014, 10:40 AM
limited time does not mean never again. Look at the limited time gold sales...

I've got most, if not all ltb's. I would not be offended if they were re-released.

I think the difference is that the gold sales are a form of currency, while the ltb is a unit.

You don't see the same limited time quest being re-played, like I want another shot to get the Original Syn Bugatti, as does my entire syndicate. It was named after us, but It was way out of a top 50 teams price range though :/.

Gold as currency is what keeps this game's servers running.


My 2cents though. You have pagoda and have certainly paid your dues over the long term in this game.

DangerKillski
03-25-2014, 11:19 AM
Easy solution: re-release LTB buildings but make them gold buildings. Meaning that active and long time players can buy them with cash and reap rewards during the event, and also feel satisfied that they were able to spend cash on something that new players or latecomers will have to spend gold to get.

This generates more revenue for the game, while also not 'locking out' new players or low IPH players forever. The premise of the game has always been that if you want to spend real $ you can get ahead fast.

GucciMane
03-25-2014, 11:32 AM
Easy solution: re-release LTB buildings but make them gold buildings. Meaning that active and long time players can buy them with cash and reap rewards during the event, and also feel satisfied that they were able to spend cash on something that new players or latecomers will have to spend gold to get.

This generates more revenue for the game, while also not 'locking out' new players or low IPH players forever. The premise of the game has always been that if you want to spend real $ you can get ahead fast.


If LTB were re-released, this would have to be the way it's done. Along with paying the original cash cost (or doubled cash cost).


But you say "easy solution" as if there were a problem in the first place.............

DangerKillski
03-25-2014, 11:53 AM
If LTB were re-released, this would have to be the way it's done. Along with paying the original cash cost (or doubled cash cost).


But you say "easy solution" as if there were a problem in the first place.............

Well, i sure would like to buy me a pagoda :)

Carloco
03-25-2014, 10:58 PM
Make all LTB building avaliable at level 250 for 500 gold to make all the old school players happy. Then make 10 buildings of various prices, payouts, and level avaliable to "try" and make the new players happy.

Zendfrim
03-25-2014, 11:24 PM
Gree should keep all the LTB so when people have money they can purchase the buildings they are interested in. Not everyone has high IPH so it makes it harder for people to purchase high million buildings.Don't have millions to upgrade the LTB? Aren't you supposed to be able to rob it? What's the matter? Can't leach enough?

Ridiculous. You missed out by not building your income. No sympathy will be bestowed upon you. Leaches are already allowed free reign, you get this one great screw over by being forced to opt out of rewards from LTBs.

If you miss an LTB, have fun not having it ever. Gree won't honor high income players plea's for the old rivals list, so you can expect your keep-in-store idea to similarly be ignored. I am glad Gree's indifference is a double edged sword.

Sleazy_P_Martini
03-25-2014, 11:42 PM
ok. perhaps my example of Limited not necessarily meaning a one time deal was not good enough. Gold sales are limited though recurring. That's not a good enough example apparently. Let's take another "Limited" resource in the game. Lets look at the Limited Time Gold Items.

Crates and Limited Edition items. I would have thought that since these were items that required gold to purchase, that players would be more upset to have them re-released. I remember buying many of these gold items (back when they made a difference) only to see them released in LTQ's and other events. I cite Big Daddy and Big Kahuna as some examples...

All the same, Limited time does not mean one time only. There is nothing sacred in cc.

Max Power
03-26-2014, 06:21 AM
Don't have millions to upgrade the LTB? Aren't you supposed to be able to rob it? What's the matter? Can't leach enough?

Ridiculous. You missed out by not building your income. No sympathy will be bestowed upon you. Leaches are already allowed free reign, you get this one great screw over by being forced to opt out of rewards from LTBs.

If you miss an LTB, have fun not having it ever. Gree won't honor high income players plea's for the old rivals list, so you can expect your keep-in-store idea to similarly be ignored. I am glad Gree's indifference is a double edged sword.

This made me smile.

OmgMileyCyrus
03-26-2014, 06:22 AM
Don't have millions to upgrade the LTB? Aren't you supposed to be able to rob it? What's the matter? Can't leach enough?

Ridiculous. You missed out by not building your income. No sympathy will be bestowed upon you. Leaches are already allowed free reign, you get this one great screw over by being forced to opt out of rewards from LTBs.

If you miss an LTB, have fun not having it ever. Gree won't honor high income players plea's for the old rivals list, so you can expect your keep-in-store idea to similarly be ignored. I am glad Gree's indifference is a double edged sword.

You are on fire today bro. I'd love to see your hood. I wouldn't even rob you purely outta respect. Keep verbally Bltch-slapping these greetards because they deserve it for sure.