Big changes to the in-game store, live now!

[GEMH]

Hey Guys! We have some big changes live in the game now!

UPDATE: THE STORE CHANGES ARE NOW LIVE

In preparation for the new feature Full Assault, we will be removing the unit requirements from jobs on the maps, and revamping the store with higher powered units. Once again, your cash and valor will be key for building up your arsenal. While making your selections, keep in mind that the new cash units will have casualty rates, while the new valor units will not. Here are some examples of cash units which will be available:



Unit Name


Attack


Defense


Cash Cost






Basic Grunt

50

50

10000


Light APC

160

190

39500


Guard Battleship

270

330

75000


Support Fighter Jet

430

420

117000


Medium Trooper

600

600

180000


Sentry Goliath

850

850

277000


Ops Submarine

1300

1100

420000


Heavy Striker

2300

2500

950000


Battle Suppressor

3000

3400

1350000


Warfare Rocket APC

5500

4500

2320000


Guardian Titan

6500

8500

3675000


Strife Velociraptor

12000

8000

5150000


Expert Stalker

15000

15000

8100000


Armor Sentinelle

17000

23000

11300000


Captain Carrier

22000

28000

14750000

[2000y2k]

Thanks. Any other changes to the maps?

[CJ54]

Thanks. Any other changes to the maps?

Not at this time, no.

[Web323]

Any word on the valor units?

[M1keperry]

Will your unit buildings need to be maxed?

[twinstorm15]

1. so if there won't be any unit requirements will that make the advanced unit buildings obsolete?
2. will there be level requirements on the advanced unit buildings to be able to purchase the cash or valor units?

[PITA4PRES]

May sound like a stupid question but will the new cash and valor units still have building level requirements such level 7 shipyard or reach a certain battle rank such as Commander in order to purchase them?

[2000y2k]

So much for having any strategy to complete maps. I don't see the logic in removing the units myself.

[M1keperry]

When will they be available to buy?

[CJ54]

1. so if there won't be any unit requirements will that make the advanced unit buildings obsolete?
2. will there be level requirements on the advanced unit buildings to be able to purchase the cash or valor units?

Most units will be locked to require a certain building level.



May sound like a stupid question but will the new cash and valor units still have building level requirements such level 7 shipyard or reach a certain battle rank such as Commander in order to purchase them?

Not a stupid question. Yes, they will, but no rank requirements.


So much for having any strategy to complete maps. I don't see the logic in removing the units myself.

You will when Full Assault rolls.


When will they be available to buy?

The next few days, possibly as early as tomorrow. It is in QA right now.

[CJ54]

May sound like a stupid question but will the new cash and valor units still have building level requirements such level 7 shipyard or reach a certain battle rank such as Commander in order to purchase them?

Actually, just checked further on this, we may be adding some new valor units that are rank-dependent (some players put a ton of work into that).

[lemonhaze]

Cool hope ya do get them out b4 war..i got 12b i need to use to up my stats in time lol thx for the info CJ& GEHM

[marcrochon]

In preparation for the new feature Full Assault, we will be removing the unit requirements from jobs on the maps.
Just curious for this part of your statement since I do missions in maps and will this mean my pre-staging of mission maps will not be affected. I do these missions for skill points.just hope my prestaging of regular targets on maps for missions is not affected...

[Spetsnaz]

For those that like to pre-stage targets on every map. I know that it has been said in the past, pre-staged targets can lose the pre-staged work. But that is a maybe. Can you see any of our pre-staging definately being lost?

[kk92]

Is this the whole list or are there going to be more coming out way soon? It looks like the infirmary building has a purpose to exist again!

[GEMH]

Is this the whole list or are there going to be more coming out way soon? It looks like the infirmary building has a purpose to exist again!

There will be more units coming. The examples we listed here are just to give you an idea about stats and cost.

[Thorm V2]

Will it be announced when this cash & valor sale goes live?

Any talk of adding an 8th level to faction bonuses?

[Speed ump]

You can count on prestaging being lost with those changes they described.

[Evil Mastermind]

This might actually be a turning point in the game for me if this actually happens. Cash units with high stats....AWESOME! Maybe those 2 years of building an IPH is going to pay off after all! :D

[Kennetth]

If all this comes to fruition, a revolution in the game to be certain. I would like to see rank-dependent units, as I have taken the time to balance building pvp rank and raiding (Commander-rookie at the moment).

Since you were discussing rank CJ, will there be any changes to the requirements to get rank? Or new ranks added?

[DaBoss!]

Sweet!! This sound's awesome.....Change gonna come....;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbO2_077ixs&feature=kp

[CJ54]

This might actually be a turning point in the game for me if this actually happens. Cash units with high stats....AWESOME! Maybe those 2 years of building an IPH is going to pay off after all! :D

The time between this going live and the introduction of Full Assault is going to be interesting.

My money is on "a whole bunch of people breaking open the piggy bank, followed by a veritable supernova of high-powered beatings", but we'll have to see.


If all this comes to fruition, a revolution in the game to be certain. I would like to see rank-dependent units, as I have taken the time to balance building pvp rank and raiding (Commander-rookie at the moment).

Since you were discussing rank CJ, will there be any changes to the requirements to get rank? Or new ranks added?

Yeah, the first bit was something that came up, people have put work into that. We don't have any current plans to change rank otherwise, but it is something that comes up.

[Cannibalpaul]

So by introducing this before WD, your severs will be seeing a sudden inflation of stats from players on a new matching syetem, so I'm guessing this WD will not go good. Not to mention that faction members will no longer donate money, so this will hurt the factions from verious levels except the one's already maxed or close to it.

[2000y2k]

So by introducing this before WD, your severs will be seeing a sudden inflation of stats from players on a new matching syetem, so I'm guessing this WD will not go good. Not to mention that faction members will no longer donate money, so this will hurt the factions from verious levels except the one's already maxed or close to it.

Assuming you have unit buildings upgraded and can purchase the units you want. Valor units won't take away from the cash donations and many of us have well over 10 million.

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[MojoJojo]

Any word on when these units will come out?

[Badvock]

Hey Guys! We have some big changes coming to the game in the next few days!

In preparation for the new feature Full Assault, we will be removing the unit requirements from jobs on the maps, and revamping the store with higher powered units. Once again, your cash and valor will be key for building up your arsenal. While making your selections, keep in mind that the new cash units will have casualty rates, while the new valor units will not. Here are some examples of cash units which will be available:



Unit Name



Attack



Defense



Cash Cost







Basic Grunt


50


50


10000



Light APC


160


190


39500



Guard Battleship


270


330


75000



Support Fighter Jet


430


420


117000



Medium Trooper


600


600


180000



Sentry Goliath


850


850


277000



Ops Submarine


1300


1100


420000



Heavy Striker


2300


2500


950000



Battle Suppressor


3000


3400


1350000



Warfare Rocket APC


5500


4500


2320000



Guardian Titan


6500


8500


3675000



Strife Velociraptor


12000


8000


5150000



Expert Stalker


15000


15000


8100000



Armor Sentinelle


17000


23000


11300000




Captain Carrier


22000


28000


14750000





Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but will these units be available in your army for general use after the event finishes? If so, at 22K att unit for 15 mil will make the big boys have some competition soon.

[Alliance]

Will battle loot or loot in general be updated accordingly in the future?
Rare drops would promote more attacking in the community.

[Socks]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Let me compose myself.

Wait.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[MojoJojo]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but will these units be available in your army for general use after the event finishes? If so, at 22K att unit for 15 mil will make the big boys have some competition soon.

It won't likely give the big boys something to worry about seeing as they have a lot of boosts that will push their stats into the billions.

[Waiting]

When is FA starting, right after war?

[Drakhoan]

Can't wait!

[krabbie]

Stat inflation will be huge again! Why spend gold for ubits in ltq's now when you can buy them with cash in a month?! Sounds awesome though! Hope there will also be good valor units!

Will the new units be out before World Domination starts this weekend or after?

And will Anfroid users also get it, as we didnt get the update with Full Assault yet?

[Thorm V2]

Can't wait to see the complaints after players start to lose these destrusctible units in WD.

[whitefire]

I think the coming wd will bring us wholesale slaughter of those fancy new units and a surge of casualty reduction investment. Interesting...

[Bruceb72]

Can you let us know if we will have better tools to manage what units go into battle. For example, I might want to have some units that are strong against air (even though the stats are low) to take out my opponents strong air units, or low stat units that have bonuses, or during WD events keeping cash units out of battles, etc)....

[Wingman GRI]

Stat inflation will be huge again! Why spend gold for ubits in ltq's now when you can buy them with cash in a month?! Sounds awesome though! Hope there will also be good valor units!

Will the new units be out before World Domination starts this weekend or after?

And will Anfroid users also get it, as we didnt get the update with Full Assault yet?

Wait till they release the next generation LTQ and LE set units.....

[BostonHammer]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but will these units be available in your army for general use after the event finishes? If so, at 22K att unit for 15 mil will make the big boys have some competition soon.

Yeah I doubt the big boys are worried, guess we know what Mickymac's 3000th unit will be soon. haha.

Mods, any word on new faction bonuses?

[JerseyGirl]

Would like to see valor units cost and att

[sstuutss]

lol So doesn't this make our worthless units worthless?.which was meant to be the reason for full assult in the first place. So now my 220 subs that cost over $6 billion can be taken out by a $15 mil carrier...............

[goober]

My money is on "a whole bunch of people breaking open the piggy bank, followed by a veritable supernova of high-powered beatings", but we'll have to see.


Yes - this will lead to a whole new round of statflation. If people can buy (with $ or valor) 22K units, we will see stats jump quickly.

But - if this rebalances game play, makes unit building upgrades important again, or makes it so you have to trade off between upgrading your IPH and getting access to new units, or makes it so that ranking up and getting access to new units becomes important again it will restore some of the fun "strategic" nature of the game.

And we know that between using non-boosted stats in raid boss and taking the players a/d stats out of full assault completely that the game is slightly shifting away from a focus purely on a/d. This is a good thing in terms of keeping it interesting. Looking forward to the changes coming.

[Richard79]

While i do like to see new events and new units............please for the love of this damn game fix the out standing issues b4 releasing new bugged events, like the droid leader board......really just fix it as well as many other broken fixtures in the game.

[Lancerdually]

while i do like to see new events and new units............please for the love of this damn game fix the out standing issues b4 releasing new bugged events, like the droid leader board......really just fix it as well as many other broken fixtures in the game.
exactttlllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[kmikulz]

So wouldnt this constitute an entire overhaul of the units that you can buy with valor and with cash? Why would I buy an Artillery Buster with 50 atk and 35 defense for 3 million when I can buy a basic grunt with 50 atk and 50 def for 10,000?

[CJ54]

Some answers to questions:

Regarding better battle loot/random drops: We will be updating the battle loot to drop the new store units, so yes, the battle loot you get from pvp will become more relevant.

Regarding the new units unlocked with rank: Those will actually go into the game in a separate push from this one, probably in a week. So hang tight on that one, people who were asking.

[gazoo]

With these new units coming out will gree remove the handicap of a players level in the wd events? With everyone being able to purchase these units there will be an even more of an equalization between high and lower level players. Thereby, making the higher level a even bigger target

[iZheil9152]

Since being on the topic of editing store items etc. Are defense buildings being revamped soon or at least the mechanics?

[2000y2k]

Since being on the topic of editing store items etc. Are defense buildings being revamped soon or at least the mechanics?

Would hope so. They are all but irrelevant at this point.

[Rob TRK]

CJ, the next obvious question will the next update wipe out any prestaging. Like many others I've prestaged most of the existing maps. I've never lost the prestaging before, but the implication here is the maps will be updated. If that's the case please confirm. Might as well take the cash for completing maps if we lose all the energy invested.
I fully appreciate agree have said before that pre-staging is at our risk...

[Brizzol]

Have to say I'm looking forward to this. Well done Gree, I was getting extremely bored with the game as it stands now..Hope it is as good as it sounds, I'll have to build the unit buildings now as I have none of them lol.

[CJ54]

First part of this (new units in the store) is live now. Updating original post.

[Ghost-12]

First part of this (new units in the store) is live now. Updating original post.
Thanks CJ!!

[mickymacirl]

First part of this (new units in the store) is live now. Updating original post.

I can tell you are busy! thanks for the unit updates.

[PennPal]

Hi GEMH,

Thanks for the update, but can you tell me when we might be getting the boost for upgrading 2 buildings at once? It was the overwhelming favorite in the poll that was conducted. With so many new requirements (higher IPH, new cash/valour units, and upgrading boost and LE bldgs), I'm falling further behind players at the same level as me, players in my faction and players in other factions.

I would appreciate hearing from you.



Hey Guys! We have some big changes live in the game now!

UPDATE: THE STORE CHANGES ARE NOW LIVE

In preparation for the new feature Full Assault, we will be removing the unit requirements from jobs on the maps, and revamping the store with higher powered units. Once again, your cash and valor will be key for building up your arsenal. While making your selections, keep in mind that the new cash units will have casualty rates, while the new valor units will not. Here are some examples of cash units which will be available:



Unit Name


Attack


Defense


Cash Cost






Basic Grunt

50

50

10000


Light APC

160

190

39500


Guard Battleship

270

330

75000


Support Fighter Jet

430

420

117000


Medium Trooper

600

600

180000


Sentry Goliath

850

850

277000


Ops Submarine

1300

1100

420000


Heavy Striker

2300

2500

950000


Battle Suppressor

3000

3400

1350000


Warfare Rocket APC

5500

4500

2320000


Guardian Titan

6500

8500

3675000


Strife Velociraptor

12000

8000

5150000


Expert Stalker

15000

15000

8100000


Armor Sentinelle

17000

23000

11300000


Captain Carrier

22000

28000

14750000

[Web323]

I can tell you are busy! thanks for the unit updates.

Did you increase your stats by a couple hundred million yet?

[CDR Shepard]

Am I the only one here that is not overly thrilled about this? Units are too high in value IMO

[redman]

Did you increase your stats by a couple hundred million yet?

rumor is stats are above 800M now.

Check please!

[bruner]

What about the units that we purchased with in-game money or valor? Are those units gone? I see they are not on the list anymore. Will we get refunded the in-game money and valor that we used to purchase those units with?

[Bobar]

this will make a new game out of this. not sure whether this is good or bad.

[Web323]

Cash units drop like flies

[mroder19]

Are these units here to stay or do we only have a certain time to buy them?

[Web323]

Are these units here to stay or do we only have a certain time to buy them?

Here to stay.....part of the new event to allow us to drop unwanted units.

[sstuutss]

Am I the only one here that is not overly thrilled about this?
No.

This is one of th silliest things they have done yet.

[Stryker74]

Bottom line now is if spent all valors or keep something for future use

[CJ54]

What about the units that we purchased with in-game money or valor? Are those units gone? I see they are not on the list anymore. Will we get refunded the in-game money and valor that we used to purchase those units with?

We just removed them from the store, we didn't remove them from players' inventories.

[sstuutss]

Here to stay.....part of the new event to allow us to drop unwanted units.

But it would seem our old unwanted units will be worthles in battle now

[CJ54]

But it would seem our old unwanted units will be worthles in battle now

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?85278-ATTENTION!-New-event-Get-Ready-For-Full-Assault!

[Web323]

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?85278-ATTENTION!-New-event-Get-Ready-For-Full-Assault!

But they increased the duration from 30 minutes to 1 hour per the splash screen

[GEMH]

Hi GEMH,

Thanks for the update, but can you tell me when we might be getting the boost for upgrading 2 buildings at once? It was the overwhelming favorite in the poll that was conducted. With so many new requirements (higher IPH, new cash/valour units, and upgrading boost and LE bldgs), I'm falling further behind players at the same level as me, players in my faction and players in other factions.

I would appreciate hearing from you.

At the moment this information is under wraps. The Community Management Team and Support Team have not been given any specific details about if and/or when this particular boost may be made available again. If it should come to pass, we'll be sure to let you know.

[sstuutss]

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?85278-ATTENTION!-New-event-Get-Ready-For-Full-Assault!

By 'worthless in battle' I of course meant 'in full assault' for most they were already worthless in normal battles. You just made them(it would seems) worthless in the new game that was written to make them useful again.

[PennPal]

At the moment this information is under wraps. The Community Management Team and Support Team have not been given any specific details about if and/or when this particular boost may be made available again. If it should come to pass, we'll be sure to let you know.

I appreciate the timely response. Thanks.

All I'm saying is that it is a major driver (not the only one) that separates the big guys and the small ones. I'm a gold player and would consider spending more if I knew there was a chance to close the gap. But until then, I'm not going to buy anymore gold. It's not worth it.

[Crammer]

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?85278-ATTENTION!-New-event-Get-Ready-For-Full-Assault!

Old units will be worthless in Full Assault as well….

[JCL]

In my entire year or so playing, I've never thought it was a good idea to spend gold on units. Buildings, regen refills, etc sure... but never units.

[Bobar]

and within seconds all att/def earned in months or by doing events and working hard on it is no longer worth a piece of ****..... why should i open a box every hour just trying to get some bottles? i will never get 25 with ingame cash only. and therefor receive a unit 25k/23k (Green Fury). i just buy a bunch of new units for valor or ingamecash. much cheaper than receiving a hundred sorrys. killing the game.....

[Bobar]

Old units will be worthless in Full Assault as well….

agree. they are just crap again. wont work what gree told due to latest inflationable units. if you dont play the new gamepart seriously, you can maybe use it as i kind of trash for the poor ones

[CJ54]

agree. they are just crap again. wont work what gree told due to latest inflationable units. if you dont play the new gamepart seriously, you can maybe use it as i kind of trash for the poor ones

We'll see.

[Elite Enforcer]

The winners are the ones with maxed out on facility, advanced airbase etc. Stats to go up 35 million in one day is just crazy. Several people are leaving the game today. Gree what are you guys thinking.

[2000y2k]

The winners are the ones with maxed out on facility, advanced airbase etc. Stats to go up 35 million in one day is just crazy. Several people are leaving the game today. Gree what are you guys thinking.

It's all very similar to when 100k units first came out. Players stats when crazy, players got mad, then the game stabilized somewhat in regards to stats. Players with lots of attack and defense boosts will fair better than others along with the ones who have ranked up and upgraded unit buildings.

Give it a month or two and stats won't be all over the place any longer. At least there is now a use for valor and unit buildings again. Now if we can get a use for attack and defense skill points and defensive buildings.

[jvp7012]

I am pissed myself, i spent a lot of time and valors building up my stat. So will gree give me my valor back and take away the now useless ones now! This is going to give others the advantage over the ones you a have spent their valors.

[iamnasty]

Cash units drop like flies


No.

This is one of th silliest things they have done yet.

Yep, and the next couple of days, all these HAPPY chap will whine with the rate of these 'cash units drop like flies'

[Sherah]

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! I spent all my cash and valor reserves stocking up on the old units in preparation for full assault!!!! **sobs**

[SunDevil]

Why do all the new units available have low as the casualty rate?

[Lordgibby]

Gree you have made a fool of every one with a modern war account. I have spent nearly a year and many a hour builing my attack and defence up. And now you take out more powerfull units. You half just spoiled the game totally. Just so you can make more money out of people. You are taking me and others for mugs. You should be ashamed!!!!!

[spencecm]

spent alot of gold time and effort building my acct up for over a year just to have it become useless in less than a day not happy not happy at all this is a joke doubled my stats and no telling how much its going to boost everyone else s this inflation is ridiculous while i saved most of my valor alot of my faction did not. this will not b a balanced stat increase in fact its complete robbery and a incredibly stupid idea. what about reimbursement for valor spent previously at least give a chance to sell now worthless units back to get newest ones after all people doing ltqs and receiving valor did use time and gold for it and with no warning u completely made previous units useless i never complain on these forums but this is absurd!!!!

[Sherah]

Wow, I gotta say though HOLY GUACAMOLE will this ever shake things up. One great thing is that it will really force everyone to be in game and to PLAY! : ) (I think?) lol. We will have to see what happens! I mean - the only thing is that I do wish I hadn't just blown all my cash and valour over the past few weeks thinking I was being clever bulking up my inventory for FULL ASSAULT but heh, guess I shouldn't have blown my savings prematurely... I own a crap-ton of those small valour units now (350 drones, one gazillion hardened marines etc)! Pacepalm.Oyyyyyy.

[2000y2k]

Gree you have made a fool of every one with a modern war account. I have spent nearly a year and many a hour builing my attack and defence up. And now you take out more powerfull units. You half just spoiled the game totally. Just so you can make more money out of people. You are taking me and others for mugs. You should be ashamed!!!!!

Not sure why people are complaining. Last August the same thing happened when 100k units first came out. This is nothing new. The game changed dramatically then regarding stats and now they changed again. In sure this won't be the last time either.

[2000y2k]

Gree you have made a fool of every one with a modern war account. I have spent nearly a year and many a hour builing my attack and defence up. And now you take out more powerfull units. You half just spoiled the game totally. Just so you can make more money out of people. You are taking me and others for mugs. You should be ashamed!!!!!

Not sure why people are complaining. Last August the same thing happened when 100k units first came out. This is nothing new. The game changed dramatically then regarding stats and now they changed again. I'm sure this won't be the last time either.

[Pellatt]

spent alot of gold time and effort building my acct up for over a year just to have it become useless in less than a day not happy not happy at all this is a joke doubled my stats and no telling how much its going to boost everyone else s this inflation is ridiculous while i saved most of my valor alot of my faction did not. this will not b a balanced stat increase in fact its complete robbery and a incredibly stupid idea. what about reimbursement for valor spent previously at least give a chance to sell now worthless units back to get newest ones after all people doing ltqs and receiving valor did use time and gold for it and with no warning u completely made previous units useless i never complain on these forums but this is absurd!!!!

Most of the MW community that I know, which covers at least 10 full factions, have been wondering what we are gonna use up all this valour on!

We have generally sat on it thinking that the available valour units, post this new upgrade, were usless to the stat increase of our current inventory. So we decided just to sit on the valour for a rainy day, thinking that GREE would probably come up with a way to spend them at some stage!

We decided to save, it appears that those around your community decided to use them!

None of our choices were informed but meerly hunches carried out!

You win some, you lose some!

GET OVER IT!

[I C STUFF]

Gree you have made a fool of every one with a modern war account. I have spent nearly a year and many a hour builing my attack and defence up. And now you take out more powerfull units. You half just spoiled the game totally. Just so you can make more money out of people. You are taking me and others for mugs. You should be ashamed!!!!!

You're no mug, sir. You're very clever. Don't allow yourself to be bamboozled.

[Big John]

We are going to lose a lot of units in the new event.

First to go will be the old units then new cash units then valor.

I think the game will get better as you will need to keep topping up the units.

[goober]

Some answers to questions:

Regarding better battle loot/random drops: We will be updating the battle loot to drop the new store units, so yes, the battle loot you get from pvp will become more relevant.

Regarding the new units unlocked with rank: Those will actually go into the game in a separate push from this one, probably in a week. So hang tight on that one, people who were asking.

CJ,
Could you publish a list of those upcoming valor rank units? Would help make informed spending decisions now. And avoid a lot of complaints next week.

Thank you in advance

[Hec_Hectik]

Can you let us know if we will have better tools to manage what units go into battle. For example, I might want to have some units that are strong against air (even though the stats are low) to take out my opponents strong air units, or low stat units that have bonuses, or during WD events keeping cash units out of battles, etc)....

I agree, the way your inventory is randomly listed is frustrating and now it will be even more important to understand what you have.

It's all basic data, why not make it a table and let is sort it, or, better yet, lets us export our data so that we can sort it ourselves in excel?

This should have done long ago since you are limited by how many troops go into battle, knowing what your weakest units are let's you know what units you should be buying.

[2000y2k]

CJ,
Could you publish a list of those upcoming valor rank units? Would help make informed spending decisions now. And avoid a lot of complaints next week.

Thank you in advance

Great idea. I decided to hold off on all valor purchases in case better units come out next week but knowing the units could speed up my purchase decisions.

[DIABLOPEZ]

CJ
What about this? Have been working for weeks to reach black ops rank so i could purchase the black ops rank valor unit.
Finally reached black ops last week and bought 1500+ of that valor unit that is worthless now, ( only good for cannon food)

Will those black ops rank valor units, also be replaced in inventory???
Or am i f€&@@g screwed right now?

You guys could of warned us a couple of eeeks ago man, not less than 24 hours

[2000y2k]

CJ
What about this? Have been working for weeks to reach black ops rank so i could purchase the black ops rank valor unit.
Finally reached black ops last week and bought 1500+ of that valor unit that is worthless now, ( only good for cannon food)

Will those black ops rank valor units, also be replaced in inventory???f
Or am i f€&@@g screwed right now?

You guys could of warned us a couple of eeeks ago man, not less than 24 hours.

Quick answer is you are stuck with what you purchased as is everyone else that decided to buy them in the past.

There will be no exchange of units. All you can do now is save your valor for future use.

[Wufnu]

While making your selections, keep in mind that the new cash units will have casualty rates, while the new valor units will not.

What exactly does this mean? Does this mean the new valor units are indestructible?

[Web323]

What exactly does this mean? Does this mean the new valor units are indestructible?

They are stated as indestructible but we will soon find out

[Kanoli]

I don't understand why they can't just up stats of old units to match value of cost for those of us that spent millions of valor on rank units that are now worthless

[Bobar]

I don't understand why they can't just up stats of old units to match value of cost for those of us that spent millions of valor on rank units that are now worthless

sounds fair to me

[DIABLOPEZ]

☝️thats just what i was thinking

[Lancerdually]

Keep in mind............. for FA, to compete, faction members must put up units for battle, those units, destructible or not will be cannon fodder at end of battle they are lost. But if units put up are weaker than opponents they are lost for nothing.

[Kanoli]

I understand that Lancer, but it doesn't address the unit value point

We spent valor on rank units, which we can throw away in FA, but the same amount of valor spent now is worth exponentially more in unit stats than what we have already purchased

I understood that the rank reward units were a way to balance the fact that higher level punishes you during WD

Now it seems they are worthless and high level players that spent all that valor have now been put into a position of disadvantage due simply to the fact that they played the game the way it was designed to be played

[Lancerdually]

I understand that Lancer, but it doesn't address the unit value point

We spent valor on rank units, which we can throw away in FA, but the same amount of valor spent now is worth exponentially more in unit stats than what we have already purchased

I understood that the rank reward units were a way to balance the fact that higher level punishes you during WD

Now it seems they are worthless and high level players that spent all that valor have now been put into a position of disadvantage due simply to the fact that they played the game the way it was designed to be played
Don't take me wrong, I was in way trying to be condescending. Was pointing out for those who may not understand. You also raise some very interesting thoughts that I believe only time will tell the tale for.

[Kanoli]

Same here Lancer, no disrespect at all, just pointing out some issues that I don't think they took into consideration

[{Kill Joy}]

The next you see the Full Assault Splash Screen take the time and read the walk through that can be seen by clicking on the top left button of the screen. It is very similar to what was posted on the forums about the event. But if it is much clearer or it was for me. All these massive stat gains will not be permanent 100%. For every battle you get six units you send into war. You can send more in with gold. The if someone sends in one of their hundreds of Super Hornets, and someone sends in 1 or 2 of their new units that person will win. So the point is to buy tons of these new units to ensure you win a battle in Full Assault. If you like your stat gain with these units, I suggest not playing in the new event until it has been played once through.

[Web323]

The next you see the Full Assault Splash Screen take the time and read the walk through that can be seen by clicking on the top left button of the screen. It is very similar to what was posted on the forums about the event. But if it is much clearer or it was for me. All these massive stat gains will not be permanent 100%. For every battle you get six units you send into war. You can send more in with gold. The if someone sends in one of their hundreds of Super Hornets, and someone sends in 1 or 2 of their new units that person will win. So the point is to buy tons of these new units to ensure you win a battle in Full Assault. If you like your stat gain with these units, I suggest not playing in the new event until it has been played once through.

I am hoping the prize is just a joke

[Kanoli]

Indeed, I can't see spending these new units if the end prize isn't extremely worth while

And if the prize is worth while, that just hits the point again, that those of us that already spent on "special" unlocked rank units will be spending lower value units that cost us more much valor to get (plus the cost of leveling), so how could we even get the prize?

Example: dragon ops unlock air unit 1,400 attack 1,250 defense, cost 72,000 valor
Level 6 adv air base unlock 13,000 att. 15,000 defense, cost 15,500 valor

[Kanoli]

The rank units are out, but the problem remains, they are no where near the equivalent of all the other new units.

It was worth a try.

[X-BASS]

All this complaints about your purchased units being devalued over time, is as someone blame Intel for making new computers better and better so old ones get useless and useless...

Those who saved valor will enjoy the new units, those who keep saving valor will enjoy those new ones that come in a future, but those who spend valor enjoy their units NOW not in the future. The choice is yours, to enjoy now o or do it later.

[Loki601]

I am completely confused, new data shows captain with vicious combat unit 1700 a / 1400 d , valor 1,100. indestructible.
Yet higher ranks show non valor , cash units which are weaker, and very low casualty eg Advance super ballista. Which you can purchase.

[Kanoli]

My complaint is specifically for the unlocked rank units, not the cash purchased units.

Meaning rank was the only benefit left in fighting and leveling up, due to WD point system, and now it has become meaningless, and all the time and valor spent has been wasted.

[sstuutss]

The next you see the Full Assault Splash Screen take the time and read the walk through that can be seen by clicking on the top left button of the screen. It is very similar to what was posted on the forums about the event. But if it is much clearer or it was for me. All these massive stat gains will not be permanent 100%. For every battle you get six units you send into war. You can send more in with gold. The if someone sends in one of their hundreds of Super Hornets, and someone sends in 1 or 2 of their new units that person will win. So the point is to buy tons of these new units to ensure you win a battle in Full Assault. If you like your stat gain with these units, I suggest not playing in the new event until it has been played once through.
Thats what I've been saying. The new units make the old units worthless in the new game which was meant to be about making the old units useful again.
There is a splash sceen? I'm yet to see it so I guess things are running about as good as every at Gree HQ.
Hows them crickets?

[Hawkwind]

Noticed that if you loose a unit in WD War battle and screen pops up showing for example GIGN was lost, it still has the "Buy" button showing 200 valor but if you hit it, it says it's a loot item and not avail for purchase LOL (didn't think it would allow the purchase, but had to try it)

[Web323]

Noticed that if you loose a unit in WD War battle and screen pops up showing for example GIGN was lost, it still has the "Buy" button showing 200 valor but if you hit it, it says it's a loot item and not avail for purchase LOL (didn't think it would allow the purchase, but had to try it)

They replaced the old valor units with the new ones

[Kanoli]

Wish they would do that with our inventory and not just the store

[Sir Salutes-A-lot]

Bad move, Gree[d]. This change has made ALL of your defense buildings worthless! Why upgrade/purchase a defense building for __ millions and MAYBE 100 D points when you can purchase one of the new units for ___ millions and 1,000's of D points? Should we sell all of our defense buildings and buy the new units?

[Bobar]

which full assault splash screen, what prizes? again just for ios users??

[Thief]

I understand that Lancer, but it doesn't address the unit value point

We spent valor on rank units, which we can throw away in FA, but the same amount of valor spent now is worth exponentially more in unit stats than what we have already purchased

I understood that the rank reward units were a way to balance the fact that higher level punishes you during WD

Now it seems they are worthless and high level players that spent all that valor have now been put into a position of disadvantage due simply to the fact that they played the game the way it was designed to be played

Unfortunately the bigger issue is that gold units are obolete. Those that spent hundred-Thousands on Gold Units have had their entire amries made obsolete.

So yes your valor units are obsolete....so are the cash and gold units that everyone bought before.

[Didas]

Yes, this change basically made everyone's army obsolete. The only thing that survived is mods, valor, and cash. However, when full assault events start, you may be able to recycle those obsolete units into better ones. In theory, having better disposable units gives you a better chance to win full assault battles, which are supposed to have "amazing prizes". We shall see.

[Dave_Vlad]

As someone who has been a daily player for almost 2 years, working to increase my stats, I find this new 'pimping' of units is crazy. I have an attack and defence stat of around 2 million. Yesterday I was raided so I retaliated and beat him. Today I paid him a visit to find that HIS stats had jumped up to over 6 million overnight. It seems that Gree have not considered the impact of their inflated unit stats on those who have been loyal to this game for a long time. Considering chucking it all in in disgust.

[Zepson]

As someone who has been a daily player for almost 2 years, working to increase my stats, I find this new 'pimping' of units is crazy. I have an attack and defence stat of around 2 million. Yesterday I was raided so I retaliated and beat him. Today I paid him a visit to find that HIS stats had jumped up to over 6 million overnight.

After 2 years playing you should have your unit buildings to the max and more or less have the same ammount of valor has him. Just buy the best units per boost with valor and money that you can and you will at least equal his stats.

[Kanoli]

Not true, many of us did boost buildings and cash buildings first, only upping unit buildings as we progressed the maps

And many of us spent valor on "special" unlocked rank units that have now been trivialized by this change

Rank is supposed to be something cool, and the units better, a reward for actually playing and attacking rivals

Now rank means nothing

[azgrunge]

I understand that Lancer, but it doesn't address the unit value point

We spent valor on rank units, which we can throw away in FA, but the same amount of valor spent now is worth exponentially more in unit stats than what we have already purchased

I understood that the rank reward units were a way to balance the fact that higher level punishes you during WD

Now it seems they are worthless and high level players that spent all that valor have now been put into a position of disadvantage due simply to the fact that they played the game the way it was designed to be played

For example (I have screenshots of these even though the low ones came off since then):
Old: complete golden lt rank (which I haven't) and get a blue fighter of some sort with 800A/600D for a cost of 35,000 valor. Right next to it is the new stealth osprey with 4300A/4900D for a cost of 3,800 valor. 1/9 the cost gets you over 5 times the stats for a 45x markup. I am sorry for those of you who got the golden lt rank and bought the blue fighter for such a crummy price one day and find out the next that the osprey blows it away.

Another one for the golden sgt rank (which I don't have) get a crouching infantry guy with 750A/460D for 30,000 valor or right next to it the new stealth objective force 3900A/4100D for 3200 valor. Again, 1/9 the cost and get 5-6x the power.

Right there, that is 45-50 times inflation rate (inflation = 4500%) ; overnight. Those old style units are gone now as I think Gree thought that looked a bit problematic next to each other as well. Germany in the early 1920s saw similar inflation.

[azgrunge]

Not true, many of us did boost buildings and cash buildings first, only upping unit buildings as we progressed the maps

And many of us spent valor on "special" unlocked rank units that have now been trivialized by this change

Rank is supposed to be something cool, and the units better, a reward for actually playing and attacking rivals

Now rank means nothing

After 2 years of playing I am in the middle of colonel only. I just don't have time to play all the time like some do. I'm sorry you guys that invested in the time for the rank seem to have no advantage now. Perhaps Gree will use rank for some neat stuff in the future - one can hope.

[Kanoli]

One can only hope...

[Jaebee]

Unfortunately the bigger issue is that gold units are obolete. Those that spent hundred-Thousands on Gold Units have had their entire amries made obsolete.

So yes your valor units are obsolete....so are the cash and gold units that everyone bought before.

Exactly right Thief...all those 2+1 LE sets that so many of us snatched up, were great at the time, and that was real money (gold) being spent, not valor which we basically get for free.

[I C STUFF]

Exactly right Thief...all those 2+1 LE sets that so many of us snatched up, were great at the time, and that was real money (gold) being spent, not valor which we basically get for free.

Thief is correct, as are you, Jaebee.

Now, consider this. The HLP that was built by WD, LE set purchases, and other events has hidden boosts.
Many people were considering destroying them.
This latest ploy keeps them alive, and will also keep many spending for the LLP and the HLP.

How long will this work?

Your guess is as good as mine.

[Kanoli]

I understand that idea, but we can buy cash and gold to replace those units (pricey, but doable)

We can't buy valor

Maybe make that an option, another way for gree to get money

Coming soon I'm sure lol

[cOsMiC-tRiGgEr]

As someone who has been a daily player for almost 2 years, working to increase my stats, I find this new 'pimping' of units is crazy. I have an attack and defence stat of around 2 million. Yesterday I was raided so I retaliated and beat him. Today I paid him a visit to find that HIS stats had jumped up to over 6 million overnight. It seems that Gree have not considered the impact of their inflated unit stats on those who have been loyal to this game for a long time. Considering chucking it all in in disgust.

For two years of playing you should also have phenomenal iph (and MUCH better stats). Which is another bonus here. You are just plain wrong if you think this punishes long time players. I've been playing for 2.5 or thereabouts. Since the first day this game launched. This is a HUGE advantage for me since my iph is amazing. I also didn't waste my valor on sub par units when events pay out 100 times better. So now I have a ton of that as well... Which incidentally I still haven't spent... Best to be smart and take time to make decisions. Fools rush in...

There was a time when valor bought good units. But that was long before they started awarding it by the truckload. Once that started there was literally ZERO reason for buying it. I wonder though... I have a 48 inch rear projection screen TV. No HD... NO HDMI... NO net connectivity. I wonder if I can take this back and ask for a refund since there are now better TVs available for the same price. Anyone know?

[Jaebee]

Thief is correct, as are you, Jaebee.

Now, consider this. The HLP that was built by WD, LE set purchases, and other events has hidden boosts.
Many people were considering destroying them.
This latest ploy keeps them alive, and will also keep many spending for the LLP and the HLP.

How long will this work?

Your guess is as good as mine.
Yes indeed, it was a thinly veiled plan by the powers that be. That being said, this call sign is committed to his new gold free lifestyle (other than my promised free gold for anniversary nomination...see what I did there...lol). So, I'll enjoy my temporary reprieve from the Governor(s), and then fade back to irrelevance in a month or so when everyone gets smart and ditches LTB upgrades, choosing for advanced unit building upgrades instead.

[Jaebee]

I understand that idea, but we can buy cash and gold to replace those units (pricey, but doable)

We can't buy valor

Maybe make that an option, another way for gree to get money

Coming soon I'm sure lol
You can buy valor, just not directly. But you can buy gold, use it on stamina (or energy refills during LTQs) and attack to your hearts content...gaining valor all the while for doing so. Where as there is no recourse for those of us that were ahead of this crazy train. Meaning those who spent large amounts during the pre-stat-inflation days on LE units or racked up more points than most factions before there were all the bonuses for individual wins, etc.

[Jaebee]

There was a time when valor bought good units. But that was long before they started awarding it by the truckload. Once that started there was literally ZERO reason for buying it. I wonder though... I have a 48 inch rear projection screen TV. No HD... NO HDMI... NO net connectivity. I wonder if I can take this back and ask for a refund since there are now better TVs available for the same price. Anyone know?

Fair point at the end, but using your analogy. Yes, if you paid say $1000 yesterday for that TV, and today it's being sold for $10. I'd say yes, most places would be giving you a refund (or at least a store credit...lol), but since you're talking about valor purchases, I agree with you. Since that was more like a Green Stamps purchase, as opposed to gold purchases which have been rendered useless and were bought with real money.

Here's another analogy for you. Say you bought a luxury condo, but a few months later, the landlord/developers turned all the surrounding units into section 8 housing. I'd say you'd have a righteous complaint.