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Dark Prince

03-09-2014, 06:08 AM

Thanks Gree for the re-vamped rewards ;)

The Justice

03-09-2014, 06:21 AM

+1!!

Totally agree

Dianish

03-09-2014, 07:53 AM

I would answer the question if i could.

But in the end.... Why question how others spend their money? Just let them have their fun.

Personally i prefer Gree to implement that no player can change armors during a war or that we have 1 "My Knights" screen for GW and 1 "My Knights" screen for arena. The armors you choose to wear for GW should be locked.

Cali-Boy916

03-09-2014, 07:56 AM

Rant all you want it will still happen lol but you do make a good point, thats why i dont care for wars anymore cause a couple months after they will make that epic fusable

bisogun35

03-09-2014, 07:57 AM

wish you success

Mr Spock

03-09-2014, 09:44 AM

There is a movement by some of us called "bow to no one" (BTNO). If you see the 4 letters with a player he represents a guild that refuses to strip. Powers Guild is an example of one in this war. We are also missing the point of stripping armors and missing the joy of actually really winning a battle on ones own merit.. For us scoring high in the war has become secondary to testing ourselves fairly...

To spend Gems and strip to win armors, u don't need, makes no sense to us. Except they do sparkle which is cool...We realize we may not change what Gree does, and frankly the Greed of other Guilds will keep stripping alive, but we can set our own code of conduct to play by...

Sir Bup

03-09-2014, 10:04 AM

yea i had start fighting in the GW yesterday then i looked at the Rewards like a couple air fusions and 20 fusion stars that is not worth my time and the game has become very unstable i cant open a chest without the game getting stuck or when it comes on all those pop ups just takes way too long it just about shuts the game down every movement

King juju

03-09-2014, 11:13 AM

busteroaf

03-09-2014, 11:15 AM

Ouch!! I promise I am honestly done..

Um...

There is a movement by some of us called "bow to no one" (BTNO). If you see the 4 letters with a player he represents a guild that refuses to strip. Powers Guild is an example of one in this war. We are also missing the point of stripping armors and missing the joy of actually really winning a battle on ones own merit.. For us scoring high in the war has become secondary to testing ourselves fairly...

To spend Gems and strip to win armors, u don't need, makes no sense to us. Except they do sparkle which is cool...We realize we may not change what Gree does, and frankly the Greed of other Guilds will keep stripping alive, but we can set our own code of conduct to play by...

Oh look, Spock is back! Hurrah! How I've missed you buddy. How you been?

So, no more stripping? Good for you. I guess when you were in Cents to get that cheap epic it was okay to take advantage of it though. Strange.

But hey, kudos to you and your movement, and your own code of conduct. Maybe if people hadn't abused the hell out of it from the start, it wouldn't have been as prominent now.

ZERO_07

03-09-2014, 12:14 PM

Should have never gone with Apple.

Mr Spock

03-09-2014, 12:20 PM

Um...

Oh look, Spock is back! Hurrah! How I've missed you buddy. How you been?

So, no more stripping? Good for you. I guess when you were in Cents to get that cheap epic it was okay to take advantage of it though. Strange.

But hey, kudos to you and your movement, and your own code of conduct. Maybe if people hadn't abused the hell out of it from the start, it wouldn't have been as prominent now.

I promised other players that I would not give u a hard time anymore Buster... I do admit I like sparkly... So I did play in the wars twice... But it is good to see others coming to the conclusion that there is a better way to play the game.. And it is awesome to see that u buster just relax and play for fun and don't worry about the big wars... I knew you would eventually see the light! Do you have a lot of kids in your guild like me?

King juju

03-09-2014, 01:15 PM

I promised other players that I would not give u a hard time anymore Buster... I do admit I like sparkly... So I did play in the wars twice... But it is good to see others coming to the conclusion that there is a better way to play the game.. And it is awesome to see that u buster just relax and play for fun and don't worry about the big wars... I knew you would eventually see the light! Do you have a lot of kids in your guild like me?

Stop skipping the main point of his post. So you used to do this but now you are against it? Is it because your not in a top guild anymore? We would love to know what motivated this "movement".

Mr Spock

03-09-2014, 01:36 PM

Stop skipping the main point of his post. So you used to do this but now you are against it? Is it because your not in a top guild anymore? We would love to know what motivated this "movement".

I have always run a f2p guild we are called Trekkie. I have never left it.. I have twice on occasion played for centurions just to do the big war thing. So if you think I am bitter for no longer being in top 10 guilds or something the answer is no.

The motivation is that stripping is not fun....and what good is a war epic if you never need to use it. That's all...

furyp

03-09-2014, 02:03 PM

Mr Spock

03-09-2014, 02:39 PM

^^^This thread is titled what the point of the GW? My point is that for those that the fun has left...you don't have to strip. Try having fun and actually seeing how you can score using your armor.. That's what BTNO is about...

XK Domo

03-09-2014, 03:19 PM

I think alliances are Bull. The top 100 is a joke now nothing but a joke. Nut up guys and work hard. Recruit and lead your knights. Contact me on line if you are willing to fight and work hard to break the b.s. alliances.

Domo
Champion
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Line: Xkdomo

Should have never gone with Apple.

ettexor1

03-09-2014, 04:58 PM

You guys do realize the easiest way to end stripping is to NOT strip? Pretty simple, pretty easy to implement...why wait for Gree to change the game to stop it, just stop it ourselves...

busteroaf

03-09-2014, 07:28 PM

You guys do realize the easiest way to end stripping is to NOT strip? Pretty simple, pretty easy to implement...why wait for Gree to change the game to stop it, just stop it ourselves...

Actually, as long as there is anyone willing to strip for another guild, you will always have the issue, and things will be unfair for someone else. Two guilds follow the same no-strip code, and have a fair battle. Two other guilds have a strip match. Generally those in the strip battle will end up with better points. And there you go. The people who try to play fairly, and straight up without stripping, will generally lose out to those who have friends and do strip.

Pretty crappy huh?

Bshappell

03-09-2014, 08:22 PM

I think the point for a Guild Wars still remains the same. People join a guild, each guild battles another guild for certain amount of time. Then when the war is over the guilds are ranked then given rewards accordingly? Not sure what's changed

busteroaf

03-09-2014, 09:02 PM

Stop skipping the main point of his post. So you used to do this but now you are against it? Is it because your not in a top guild anymore? We would love to know what motivated this "movement".

You're cute. As much as I dislike Spock, my point has nothing to do with him not being in a top guild. Yes, while I did attempt to get my digs in at his prior war history... his dislike for stripping is echoed by a large majority of the player-base, and many members who are guilty of doing it, wish they didn't have to. Due to the "Keeping up with the Joneses" and the building of alliances back and forth before/during/after each war, in an attempt to take over the top spots... Stripping became ridiculously out of hand, and Gree has done nothing to stop it.

I have always run a f2p guild we are called Trekkie. I have never left it.. I have twice on occasion played for centurions just to do the big war thing. So if you think I am bitter for no longer being in top 10 guilds or something the answer is no.

The motivation is that stripping is not fun....and what good is a war epic if you never need to use it. That's all...

Sadly, I agree with the last statement. I think most of us would agree that stripping isn't fun, and we'd much rather win a battle straight up. Those that depend on stripping to win, don't deserve to win. If you can't beat your peers straight up, or at least keep it close, they aren't your peers. End of story.

The issue is that there will always be those who take advantage of it as long as it is still around, and you can't just self-police it away.

There is (in many people's eyes) an easy fix that was addressed from day 1 if I'm not mistaken (See pre-Guild War posts by Eun). If you locked armors, those who strip, would end up having to strip for everyone they face, or at least be at a severe disadvantage against all opponents because their other armor/knight options are limited and thus get easily farmed, or, they wouldn't strip at all. You want to see who the strongest is, who can coordinate, who can swap armors effectively enough? Lock armors to one per knight and require a team of 3 in order to battle, for the entire duration of the war. This would put a HUGE dent into any stripping/matching mechanic, and would prompt people to be a bit more choosy when it comes to picking armors pre-war.

PB_Buncil

03-10-2014, 05:45 AM

Best stripper in iOS is Eunucorn .... Why they like strip war? Cause the GM organize it so he/she will not need to fight and no gem spent :p

EljayK

03-10-2014, 06:44 AM

Best stripper in iOS is Eunucorn .... Why they like strip war? Cause the GM organize it so he/she will not need to fight and no gem spent :p

Eunichorn didn't invent stripping, and he wasn't the first to use it.

Bad Touch was the first guild to do it. Rainbow did it because they had to to compete with the cheap tactic. And now it's the norm. When you're in 1st place, you don't keep it by holding onto 'honor.'

busteroaf

03-10-2014, 06:49 AM

Eunichorn didn't invent stripping, and he wasn't the first to use it.

Bad Touch was the first guild to do it. Rainbow did it because they had to to compete with the cheap tactic. And now it's the norm. When you're in 1st place, you don't keep it by holding onto 'honor.'

Someone from BT was smart enough to invent it? Surprising considering they didn't make a move into the Top 10 for quite a while during wars. Unless they gave the info to Untouchables and others, I don't believe it.

Besides, they were always so "anti-alliances" ... They didn't need alliances to win... /sarcasm.

PB_Buncil

03-10-2014, 08:02 AM

Did not say the first, I said the best and most beaten GM ever :) so best he even changed back to full armors after loosing points mid-way during the war. Really hate that rainbow leecher.

Adisty

03-10-2014, 11:14 AM

Anyone notice (care) Dark Prince got banned?

busteroaf

03-10-2014, 11:32 AM

Did not say the first, I said the best and most beaten GM ever :) so best he even changed back to full armors after loosing points mid-way during the war. Really hate that rainbow leecher.

Nothing you say makes sense. You never said anything about most beaten. Read your own garbage noob.
Go away. You're doing it wrong.

Skittle Stomper

03-10-2014, 02:03 PM

This thread is awesome for so many reasons.

Dark Prince banned, Spock pretending that being antistripping is a new idea, PBBuncil trying to make some sort of point...but everyone is entitled to their opinions despite how stupid/ignorant that person is.

This is my 5th forum account and already has more posts than Buncil, LoL! But ya he is definitely in the loop of how RR operated........

bosskiller

03-10-2014, 02:20 PM

Why did Dark Prince get banned? For making this thread? That is just dumb. That is what the forums are for!

Skittle Stomper

03-10-2014, 02:43 PM

Why did Dark Prince get banned? For making this thread? That is just dumb. That is what the forums are for!

This thread + thread poll specifically targeting & attacking Busteroaf = banned

Cyphre

03-10-2014, 02:48 PM

YYOU JUST REALIZED IT?
Of course your gear does not matter, all you need is gems. I have a level 50 player in my guild that scored 200k this fusion war. WHy? Because he got gems. His gear is all non-maxed epics.

He is probably a hacker, they appear to be everywhere. Attention Hackers: You might feel what you do is innocent, but you are indirectly causing paying players to reserve gem spending or quit the game. Who wants to fight or even play if you think the others are cheating? Gree is currently taking legal actions against you as you have all signed the ToS and are massively hurting a mio$ a month revenue game by cheating. This is not something you should take lightly and although you probably think of it as kid pranks you are hurting a trademark worth millions of dollars.

bosskiller

03-10-2014, 03:00 PM

This thread + thread poll specifically targeting & attacking Busteroaf = banned

Ah. I forgot about the busteroaf thread. You would think it would have been faster if that was the reason though.

PB_Buncil

03-11-2014, 07:50 AM

Who is busteroaf? Never heard of him.

bosskiller

03-11-2014, 08:10 AM

Who is busteroaf? Never heard of him.

Um....... Not quite sure what to say to that.

toogoodformyowngood

03-11-2014, 08:27 AM

Anyone notice (care) Dark Prince got banned?

Can't remember, I think I reported him for something. He was posting something illegal. And he was pretty annoying also. can't remember what he posted tho.

SomethingStrange

03-11-2014, 03:19 PM