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King juju
03-07-2014, 08:03 PM
Yeah...I'll save my gems for a chest that's even worth it. Mono spirit is lame gree. ...cmon....

SmokeSomePeaches
03-07-2014, 08:36 PM
It's not like you only get the one epic in the chest

Melibane Urambir
03-07-2014, 09:52 PM
What about the awesomest two stars?

King juju
03-08-2014, 03:52 AM
Better than mono spirit :D

ZERO_07
03-08-2014, 06:36 AM
I got Druid

Melibane Urambir
03-08-2014, 06:38 AM
I got Druid

Congrats. I got Stormrage, my typical two star armor. I hate Druid, tears my Arborsteel up lol.

King juju
03-08-2014, 07:56 AM
I got drudic +. After 2000 gems spent on a pack I didnt like lol, I feel like a hypocrite but I'm happy for my 10th epic. 2nd epic+

bosskiller
03-08-2014, 10:44 AM
Congrats Juju. My guildmate also pulled a druid+.

MightyIsaac
03-08-2014, 10:56 AM
opened 11 chests, got all 2 stars, not even a single 3 or 4 star.

Sajohnson
03-08-2014, 10:57 AM
I got crap, 100 chests opened now without an epic coming from them. Really GREE, 3x what? Not even a legendary.

Bluntman
03-08-2014, 11:24 AM
I got crap, 100 chests opened now without an epic coming from them. Really GREE, 3x what? Not even a legendary.

That's it? Ive seen people who have opened 500+ without an epic. Its a RANDOM chest. If you don't like it save your gems and join a top 10.

Sol Invictus
03-08-2014, 02:17 PM
http://i.minus.com/iyAchmmAAHOs4.jpg

ZackAttack
03-08-2014, 02:40 PM
So my question is, they are all 3x chance for legendary or epic... 3x more then what? Was there ever a chest that didnt have anything x chance that they are basing this off of or is it just to trick people...?

Dark Prince
03-08-2014, 05:02 PM
So my question is, they are all 3x chance for legendary or epic... 3x more then what? Was there ever a chest that didnt have anything x chance that they are basing this off of or is it just to trick people...?

I think its like the 'Guild War Energy Sale' where a re-fill costs 10 instead of 15

Street Shark
03-10-2014, 10:31 AM
When the devoted+ war came out I was Skeptical about the reward. Since Then I have come to realize how many times devoted+ has helped In gw for the times there is no stripping. This new armor regular Is almost as good as devoted so it's a chance to get an armor of Almost the same caliber. Go + or go home tho.

Skittle Stomper
03-10-2014, 02:09 PM
So my question is, they are all 3x chance for legendary or epic... 3x more then what? Was there ever a chest that didnt have anything x chance that they are basing this off of or is it just to trick people...?

Epic: 3% chance
Epic+: 1% chance

These are high estimations based off 12,000 gems spent (on x5 & x3 chests) cafe & I figured it out awhile back.

King juju
03-11-2014, 07:17 AM
Epic: 3% chance
Epic+: 1% chance

These are high estimations based off 12,000 gems spent (on x5 & x3 chests) cafe & I figured it out awhile back.

I've been ridiculously lucky then (Or I Just Spend Too Much On chest). I've never seen a 5x chest. Hope they put one in soon. So I can make the epics I have now even more useless

toogoodformyowngood
03-11-2014, 08:34 AM
Epic: 3% chance
Epic+: 1% chance

These are high estimations based off 12,000 gems spent (on x5 & x3 chests) cafe & I figured it out awhile back.

Epic is about 1/2 epic per 100 chest. which makes it about 1-2%.

Epic plus is 10 percent of that. about 0.1-0.2%.

Im guessing Epic is 1% and Epic plus is 0.1%.

That's why there is top 10 and only 1 epic plus for top 10.

marcuseva
03-12-2014, 09:14 AM
hi toogoodformyowngood,

are you from singapore? and which guild are you in nw?

Skittle Stomper
03-12-2014, 12:40 PM
Epic is about 1/2 epic per 100 chest. which makes it about 1-2%.

Epic plus is 10 percent of that. about 0.1-0.2%.

Im guessing Epic is 1% and Epic plus is 0.1%.

That's why there is top 10 and only 1 epic plus for top 10.


You are wrong. Also, you are guessing. Straight up dumb conjecture.

Please stop.

King Lou
03-12-2014, 10:16 PM
I got crap, 100 chests opened now without an epic coming from them. Really GREE, 3x what? Not even a legendary.

I have only gotten 1 epic armor out of chests and has been after a couple thousand gems put into them. Im happy that I got it though after hearing how many some people go through, but it still sucks when you buy 11 30gem chests and you get a bunch of 2 star armors. No boost armors either.

Dianish
03-13-2014, 06:18 AM
You are wrong. Also, you are guessing. Straight up dumb conjecture.

Please stop.


Why dont you just elaborate the chest % instead of just stating he is wrong? Enlighten us, please.

Adisty
03-13-2014, 06:44 AM
He did, about 6 posts up

Epic: 3% chance
Epic+: 1% chance

Skittle Stomper
03-13-2014, 06:48 AM
Why dont you just elaborate the chest % instead of just stating he is wrong? Enlighten us, please.

Why don't you try increasing your post per page count & then reading an entire thread for once.

/enlightened

Dianish
03-13-2014, 10:58 PM
Why don't you try increasing your post per page count & then reading an entire thread for once.

/enlightened

Posts per page had nothing to do with this. Also, i did read the thread. I was aware of your post where you told about the 12,000 gems. Duh!

Im sorry for requesting you to elaborate more. Why be a flippant? I guess Euni will always be Euni.

No wonder you got banned.

McGillicuddy
03-19-2014, 11:56 AM
I still have not gotten anything of value from a chest.

Ant venom
03-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Well duh, they are for Gree to make more money because everyone always does like 11-40 chests(about 55-65% of the players) so sometimes you can't count on them unless you decide to pool in a lot of money or if you are lucky.

infliction
03-20-2014, 03:36 PM
You are wrong. Also, you are guessing. Straight up dumb conjecture.

Please stop.

No, he's right and you're wrong. Your 3% and 1% are so far off, it's not even funny. 1% and 0.1% is pretty bang on and that's using 3x chests.

With your percentages and 12,000 gems spent, you would've opened almost 500 chests. With those 500 chests, you should have (on average) 15 regular epics and 5 epic+ armors. Basically spending $1000 would give you (again on average) 15 epics and 5 epic+ armors. LOL! What game are you playing?!?

Anyone that buys chests regularly knows what a load of crap that is. 1% epic and 0.1% epic on a 3x chest sounds about spot on. Spending $1000 on chests will likely yield 1 epic+. Maybe 2 if you're lucky or 3 if you're extremely lucky. There's a high chance of getting no epic+ after spending $1000 as well.

infliction
03-20-2014, 03:37 PM
I have only gotten 1 epic armor out of chests and has been after a couple thousand gems put into them. Im happy that I got it though after hearing how many some people go through, but it still sucks when you buy 11 30gem chests and you get a bunch of 2 star armors. No boost armors either.

That's right about the average.

infliction
03-20-2014, 03:45 PM
He did, about 6 posts up

Lol and he was so wrong. Let's not spread this evil lie. If it were true, nobody would even bother with guild wars. Why spend 2000 gems in a top 10 guild to get 1 epic, when you can get 3 epics and 1 epic+ for about the same price? Who would spend 3000 gems in the arena to get an old epic+, when you could get 4 epics and at least 1 epic+ from a chest for the same price?

3% and 1%???!? LMAO!

busteroaf
03-20-2014, 07:59 PM
Lol and he was so wrong. Let's not spread this evil lie. If it were true, nobody would even bother with guild wars. Why spend 2000 gems in a top 10 guild to get 1 epic, when you can get 3 epics and 1 epic+ for about the same price? Who would spend 3000 gems in the arena to get an old epic+, when you could get 4 epics and at least 1 epic+ from a chest for the same price?

3% and 1%???!? LMAO!

Why would people spend gems on guild war? Or Arena? With either, you know exactly what epic you're getting, or trying to get. That is why people spend the gems.

With chests, you if you get an epic, its one of ANY of the epics they've released to date. You've got just as much chance of getting an old Moon as you do a Northerners as you do the newest epic. Personally, I've got enough old epics that I wouldn't want to take any chances on new chests, considering most of them are fusable already anyway.

Also, I would pump the brakes on saying people are spreading evil lies. Your %'s are just as much a guess as his is. Only Gree programmers know for sure the true %'s of epics, or each individual armor. Unless you have 1 mil gems and you open 40 pack after 40 pack and do the research over 10,000+ chests, you aren't any closer to knowing than anyone else is.

Dark Prince
03-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Why would people spend gems on guild war? Or Arena? With either, you know exactly what epic you're getting, or trying to get. That is why people spend the gems.

With chests, you if you get an epic, its one of ANY of the epics they've released to date. You've got just as much chance of getting an old Moon as you do a Northerners as you do the newest epic. Personally, I've got enough old epics that I wouldn't want to take any chances on new chests, considering most of them are fusable already anyway.

Also, I would pump the brakes on saying people are spreading evil lies. Your %'s are just as much a guess as his is. Only Gree programmers know for sure the true %'s of epics, or each individual armor. Unless you have 1 mil gems and you open 40 pack after 40 pack and do the research over 10,000+ chests, you aren't any closer to knowing than anyone else is.

Busteroaf you telling people to gem-hack to find out Epic % in Chance chests..? Encouraging others to rule-break indirectly is a bannable offense.

busteroaf
03-20-2014, 09:05 PM
Busteroaf you telling people to gem-hack to find out Epic % in Chance chests..? Encouraging others to rule-break indirectly is a bannable offense.

No, re-read my statement dippy.

"Unless you have 1 mil gems and you open 40 pack after 40 pack and do the research over 10,000+ chests, you aren't any closer to knowing than anyone else is."

I said nothing about telling anyone to gem hack. Nice try on indirectly trying to get me banned.

Dianish
03-20-2014, 09:55 PM
Busteroaf you telling people to gem-hack to find out Epic % in Chance chests..? Encouraging others to rule-break indirectly is a bannable offense.

He didnt mention any hack, cheat or exploit :)


Would be great to know the actual % of chance of obtaining an epic(+) from chests. It wouldnt hurt Gree to tell us.

Lonestar Light
03-21-2014, 02:16 AM
Would be great to know the actual % of chance of obtaining an epic(+) from chests. It wouldnt hurt Gree to tell us.
I second this

King juju
03-21-2014, 03:53 AM
So someone go buy 1m gems and let us know.

holydinges2
03-21-2014, 07:11 AM
So someone go buy 1m gems and let us know.

or start post where u collect input from the community on number of chests openend and number of epics received. not that hard to find out really....

busteroaf
03-21-2014, 08:24 PM
or start post where u collect input from the community on number of chests openend and number of epics received. not that hard to find out really....

Getting the community to be honest about their chest results? Good luck. Guarantee you'll have someone creating 20 accounts saying "I opened 1000 chests and only got 1 epic" or "I opened 40 and got 3 epic+ and 4 epic"... just to skew the results.

Also, you would need 10k+ chests, if not 100k+ worth of chests to get a solid accurate %.

furyp
03-21-2014, 08:56 PM
they're not going to tell you what % they program the chest. Casinos don't tell you what the win rate is for the slot machines.

These chests are designed for new players since there is no way you can avoid getting duplicates. The more epics you have, the more likely you gonna get the epics you don't want

Conget
03-22-2014, 04:50 AM
He didnt mention any hack, cheat or exploit :)


Would be great to know the actual % of chance of obtaining an epic(+) from chests. It wouldnt hurt Gree to tell us.

It would hurt them. Since there is no transparency on this chance %, they can change it wihout let you notice.

*For example:
IF they set the chance to 0.5%: 3x CHance will be 1.5% and 5x Chance will be 2.5%
Then without letting you know, they reduce the base chance to 0.4%: 3x Chance will be 1.2% and 5x Chance will be 2%

It remains 5x more chance or 3x more chance, but the real % has changed without letting you know.
If they are reducing this bit by bit, usual gems buyers wont notice much difference.

sxespanky
03-22-2014, 07:19 AM
they're not going to tell you what % they program the chest. Casinos don't tell you what the win rate is for the slot machines.

These chests are designed for new players since there is no way you can avoid getting duplicates. The more epics you have, the more likely you gonna get the epics you don't want

absolutely not, its made for people who gamble and can not stop. a new player would not drop real money on this game right away, the chests are designed for people who NEED epic armors because they are frustrated with constant losing in arena or battles. if you know anyone in this world who picks up a cell phone game and says " ya know what, im gunna drop 100 bucks on this game i just downloaded yesterday" - your friend may have some problems.

if a "new" character buys chests, its because its an alt or twink.