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Fredfreddy
02-21-2014, 09:13 AM
is it just defense against robberies? or defense against PVP as well?

Jeremy Kyle
02-21-2014, 09:32 AM
Adds to your mafia defence, so protects from robs and pvp

murf
02-21-2014, 09:36 AM
I believe that the old formula, who knows if it still is true or not, was True building defense (see Best of Best Guide) was added 100% for robs and 50% for attacks.

b-w
02-21-2014, 09:43 AM
With the way the new rivals list is (hate it)..does it even matter? You're getting robbed no matter what, or so it seems.

RealTeflonDon
02-21-2014, 09:44 AM
Either way, there's a lot of mystery as to how they work. For sure they help protect against robberies & attacks. Whether or not the full value of any given defense building is used, is a bit of an unknown

Fredfreddy
02-21-2014, 09:48 AM
I believe that the old formula, who knows if it still is true or not, was True building defense (see Best of Best Guide) was added 100% for robs and 50% for attacks.

but it was pretty broken right? 2 years ago if you went into a hood and saw a bunch of high level defense buildings, you could still rob the pants off of them even though they showed defense triple that of your attack. just wondering if they've actually done anything with these new buildings...

RealTeflonDon
02-21-2014, 09:53 AM
Agreed... would be nice to get a straight answer on exactly how they are factored in.

b-w
02-21-2014, 09:55 AM
Either way, there's a lot of mystery as to how they work. For sure they help protect against robberies & attacks. Whether or not the full value of any given defense building is used, is a bit of an unknown
In theory, yeah.. But with the current rivals list, it means now you'll be robbed by different people. This has been my whole point lately. It isn't possible to fully protect yourself. this part of the game has become quite a mystery..I would get it if i could afford it for the stats and mod because it would help the syn in battle but it seems to be useless in pvp...

RealTeflonDon
02-21-2014, 10:03 AM
In theory, yeah.. But with the current rivals list, it means now you'll be robbed by different people. This has been my whole point lately. It isn't possible to fully protect yourself. this part of the game has become quite a mystery..I would get it if i could afford it for the stats and mod because it would help the syn in battle but it seems to be useless in pvp...

I totally agree on your main point there. With the new rivals list, putting out a Defense LTB like this is similar to handing someone a broken umbrella during a torrential downpour. "That should help!"

murf
02-22-2014, 08:19 PM
but it was pretty broken right? 2 years ago if you went into a hood and saw a bunch of high level defense buildings, you could still rob the pants off of them even though they showed defense triple that of your attack. just wondering if they've actually done anything with these new buildings...

Yes, that's why I said "True Building Defense"....again, who knows if the old formula is right or if it's displayed defense is the actual defense...But since defense against robberies is so difficult (even before the rivals list change), it's really a moot point.

Babytway
02-22-2014, 09:10 PM
long time ago when these questions here were relevant and everyone wanted to know the answer, Crime City Mark and his original crew came out with that true def formula but at the same time said true building def and how it was factored in was classified that where building def is a mystery came to be.

(CK) EL
02-23-2014, 02:36 AM
I believe that the old formula, who knows if it still is true or not, was True building defense (see Best of Best Guide) was added 100% for robs and 50% for attacks.

+1 .......

ohlo-00
02-23-2014, 03:27 AM
Idk how it work. just want to tell you today i lost 7,470,000att vs 5,990,000def :)

sister morphine
02-23-2014, 04:13 AM
I believe that the old formula, who knows if it still is true or not, was True building defense (see Best of Best Guide) was added 100% for robs and 50% for attacks.
I think it started out with full value of buildings used. Players began building forests of towers etc, which made robbery almost impossible so it got changed fairly quick.

I seem to remember in the best of thread there is an explanation that the true value of old defence buildings was the level 1 value, plus 50% of that value for each level above it (with fractions left in rather than being rounded up). The building defence used to count against robs only - remember the days of telling people what their real defence was, lol?
It was one reason the bodyguard centre, which had a low level 1 value, but could be raised from unbuilt to about level 5 in a couple of hours looked deceptively strong, but was not recommended.

CCKallDAY
02-23-2014, 05:09 AM
Idk how it work. just want to tell you today i lost 7,470,000att vs 5,990,000def :)That's possible.

Lars
02-23-2014, 05:10 AM
I seem to remember in the best of thread there is an explanation that the true value of old defence buildings was the level 1 value, plus 50% of that value for each level above it (with fractions left in rather than being rounded up). The building defence used to count against robs only - remember the days of telling people what their real defence was, lol?
It was one reason the bodyguard centre, which had a low level 1 value, but could be raised from unbuilt to about level 5 in a couple of hours looked deceptively strong, but was not recommended.

Exactly, for a detailed description see:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?37263-Attack-and-Defense-mechanics-summary-of-old-forum-knowledge

I doubt the mechanics changed (except for the ratios of A to D you need in attacks and robbing, I think they tweaked them) even though Gree representatives have stated they fixed it.

Bobar
02-23-2014, 06:25 AM
Same question for modern war. seems they are useless there

(CK) EL
02-23-2014, 07:39 AM
+1 to sister morfine and Lars

Gaming For Life
02-23-2014, 12:11 PM
Defense buildings are useless in this game. changes are definitely needed.

GavP
01-12-2015, 08:11 PM
Is there any change now with the new defense buildings being added? Am so confused with this!

P.s. I hope the weasely self-appointed police mod does not think the is too old an thread ...

HavingFun
01-12-2015, 08:15 PM
Is there any change now with the new defense buildings being added? Am so confused with this!

P.s. I hope the weasely self-appointed police mod does not think the is too old an thread ...

We've had two new defense buildings introduced. I would upgrade all of them to level 10 to help protect your money buildings.

GavP
01-12-2015, 08:19 PM
Thanks ... Will it also help when being attacked? Or is it only for robbing?

Please help quick before the Weasel mod self-appointed God shuts this down or badgers me more .... Apparently he is good at that ...

I cannot find the answer from my search

Weasel
01-12-2015, 08:53 PM
Defence buildings are pointless. This has been a known and established fact for over three years.

And any thread more than a year old should be left in its grave. Even 6 months is pushing it. The reason, since it obviously needs to be explained, is because the game changes often and old threads become irrelevant. Given the choice of necro-ing some ancient and most likely obsolete information, or posting a new thread, just go with the new thread.

Nighteg
01-13-2015, 03:43 AM
We've had two new defense buildings introduced. I would upgrade all of them to level 10 to help protect your money buildings.

Don't listen to this guy, not sure if he's trolling or clueless. Defense buildings are useless, new or old. Don't waste 1 penny/minute on upgrading them.

smokey77
01-13-2015, 04:13 AM
Don't listen to this guy, not sure if he's trolling or clueless.

Try both :rolleyes: