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Assault and Flattery
02-18-2014, 03:42 PM
Hey guys,

This is a different type of LTB ... a defense building! Yes, the mods stack. It begins tomorrow.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/LTB_Beachfront_Retreat_zpsf4d4f27a.jpg?t=139276726 2

Here is the extremely diverse breakdown:


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/BEACH_zpsc94e53e1.png

kingofwale
02-18-2014, 04:48 PM
maybe I'm too drunk/stupid/dumb. but wasn't the number a lot higher just 10 minutes ago??

Purple thong
02-18-2014, 04:48 PM
We want IPH growth, but at least it's not a crappy IPH building. Thanks for the update

Deadwater
02-18-2014, 04:49 PM
Thanks A&F.

But a ltb def building is the worse ltb you could have done by the way.
People complain about being stuck upgrading low income money LTBs. Now they won't be upgrading any money buildings.


I'm more interested in.....
is this going to add a million def or more? Even a million def modded isn't worth sacrificing IPH.

Chica
02-18-2014, 04:49 PM
Cost?



Extras

Chica
02-18-2014, 04:51 PM
maybe I'm too drunk/stupid/dumb. but wasn't the number a lot higher just 10 minutes ago??

The numbers in the spreadsheet were wrong number on picture was right now go to bed you drunkard.

kingofwale
02-18-2014, 04:51 PM
actually, instead of horrible cash building, I welcome some defensive building as long as i can have more than 2 and they are actually useful.

make them 1000 defense stat per lvl and I'm all for it

Lucky4u
02-18-2014, 04:52 PM
maybe I'm too drunk/stupid/dumb. but wasn't the number a lot higher just 10 minutes ago??typical GREE!

cmbrbb
02-18-2014, 04:52 PM
maybe I'm too drunk/stupid/dumb. but wasn't the number a lot higher just 10 minutes ago??

The picture had the 21,725/14,483 and the table had 86901/57933. That would have been awesome.

Deadwater
02-18-2014, 04:53 PM
actually, instead of horrible cash building, I welcome some defensive building as long as i can have more than 2 and they are actually useful.

make them 1000 defense stat per lvl and I'm all for it

Your obsession with def buildings doesn't intrigue me

Fredfreddy
02-18-2014, 04:54 PM
Cool idea, some questions...
Do you only get the loot and mod if you upgrade during the LTB duration?
Do you lose the items/mod if you delete the building?
Do you get a 2nd set of mods/items if you build two?

Chica
02-18-2014, 04:57 PM
Cool idea, some questions...
Do you only get the loot and mod if you upgrade during the LTB duration?
Do you lose the items/mod if you delete the building?
Do you get a 2nd set of mods/items if you build two?



Yes and finish it for that level.
No.
No.

Electrify
02-18-2014, 04:58 PM
How much is the build?

Fredfreddy
02-18-2014, 05:20 PM
Yes and finish it for that level.
No.
No.

Assuming you're right (and I'm betting you are) what is the value/point of keeping this building in your hood after the event is over? It doesn't seem like this is truly a defense building, it's just an LTB with modded loot and no income

TobysPaw
02-18-2014, 05:25 PM
Assuming you're right (and I'm betting you are) what is the value/point of keeping this building in your hood after the event is over? It doesn't seem like this is truly a defense building, it's just an LTB with modded loot and no income

Exactly. I don't get it. It just looks like an LTB that doesn't pay out. And unless the building has its own defensive stats it seems slanted towards attack stats.

Chica
02-18-2014, 05:29 PM
It likely will have its own defensive stats if its worth keeping will be determined tomorrow, last few ltbs that I finished I sols instantly after finish.

DNA Polymerase III
02-18-2014, 05:31 PM
You don't even know what the defense stats of the building are yet.

Steel City MOB
02-18-2014, 05:34 PM
Ok show the picture shows you get the prize for fully upgrading it...then in the same pic it says they are stackable...the chart showing getting one for each upgrade...yeah sounds confusing don't it

Fredfreddy
02-18-2014, 05:35 PM
Unless "something has happened" that makes defensive buildings worthwhile, it's defensive stats don't matter.

The Black Hand
02-18-2014, 05:44 PM
I've seen hoods with 100 various "defense" buildings all upgraded to 10. People with similar stats to me. I've never bought a single attack or defense point, who knows what their "defense" factor was. I still rob/attack with the same win percentage as those with no "defense" buildings. Off topic: I also had a mini experiment player who had 50 attack points at low level. Never helped him win any extra battles. Therefore I believe Attack skill points, defense skill points, and defense buildings are useless unless you are at Level 250 with 500 mob.

DNA Polymerase III
02-18-2014, 05:46 PM
I'm happy to participate in something new. You never know, it might add a healthy amount of defensive stats because GREE may have factored the inflation when designing this event.

dbell525
02-18-2014, 06:10 PM
I might be dense but it says you get the same reward for fully upgrading as you get for each level. What am I missing?

Fredfreddy
02-18-2014, 06:13 PM
You just get the same reward every level, kinda like that snowball thing a few months back

Curtisjon
02-18-2014, 06:15 PM
With the new rivals list format, why do I care about my defense stats? I'll use the time/$$ on IPH building upgrades to some I already have.

DNA Polymerase III
02-18-2014, 06:19 PM
With the new rivals list format, why do I care about my defense stats? I'll use the time/$$ on IPH building upgrades to some I already have.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but an increase in defense would directly benefit you when being attacked in battle.

GucciMane
02-18-2014, 06:24 PM
This isn't that bad. Come on try it out it's their FIRST time trying ltb defense bldgs.


People were asking for this very very recently give them a break. It shows they are listening to our suggestions, it just takes time.

Fredfreddy
02-18-2014, 06:41 PM
Don't get me wrong, I like new stuff, glad they're doing this, but I would like to understand how it works first so I can decide between this and a long overdue NC upgrade

Robert M
02-18-2014, 06:59 PM
Awesome sounds good i cant wait

cditti
02-18-2014, 07:36 PM
This seems awesome. Maybe explain a bit on how this works and maybe the new defensive buildings and the way they are going to work?

Beamer 420
02-18-2014, 08:01 PM
No complaints about 210k/140k att/def with 10% mod! What's the pricing on this though?

daddy ray
02-18-2014, 08:04 PM
I like the sound of it but ill know tomorrow if I like it and this is one thing ppl have been wanting so we all will see

murf
02-18-2014, 08:21 PM
is this going to add a million def or more? Even a million def modded isn't worth sacrificing IPH.

That's a bit extreme...1m defense would be more then worth sacrificing IPH...just for the 10x's BMW Beach Roadster it might be worth it, because of the +10% Car attack mod....it's definitely better then the last LTB. But that's not saying much.

OneHoop
02-18-2014, 08:26 PM
Any chance that the promised upgrade in existing defensive building stats will be in the same data set?

In case they haven't, it would work okay to multiply the defensive buildings stats by our level. It would keep them from being dominant at low levels and it would encourage people to level...

M@

The Governor
02-18-2014, 09:01 PM
We can only purchase 2 each money buildings at store. However we can purchase multiple Defense buildings.

alex6789
02-18-2014, 09:58 PM
We can only purchase 2 each money buildings at store. However we can purchase multiple Defense buildings. good question!

Di3 Devils 3
02-18-2014, 09:59 PM
Um, why hasn't anyone asked why there's an attack mod to a defense building prize? Shouldn't this be defense based? Not really a defense building if it increases attack more than defense. Lmfao. Good one gree.

Chris Boa
02-18-2014, 10:36 PM
We can only purchase 2 each money buildings at store. However we can purchase multiple Defense buildings.

Twenty five or fiftey isnt it?

Jclew
02-18-2014, 10:47 PM
Twenty five or fiftey isnt it?

50 for the ones present now.


Um, why hasn't anyone asked why there's an attack mod to a defense building prize? Shouldn't this be defense based? Not really a defense building if it increases attack more than defense. Lmfao. Good one gree.

Doesn't make a bit of difference... Mods are mods no matter what they come with. Yes its a defense LTB so hopefully it isn't a lvl 1 - 15 defense building with a 3 billion price tag. But we will see tomorrow.

sister morphine
02-18-2014, 11:02 PM
Um, why hasn't anyone asked why there's an attack mod to a defense building prize? Shouldn't this be defense based? Not really a defense building if it increases attack more than defense. Lmfao. Good one gree.
The attack mod is for the car that comes with each level, not the building. :rolleyes:

ohlo-00
02-19-2014, 12:19 AM
Time of start? 3pm PST?

Spaden
02-19-2014, 12:32 AM
How many can we build? 30 like other defense buildings?

asterisks
02-19-2014, 01:42 AM
How many can we build? 30 like other defense buildings?

Interesting question, initially i thought it should be 2 like the other money LTB.
If we can build one each day within the Limited period.. lol :cool:

Billy Two
02-19-2014, 03:24 AM
Will be my first def building. Lol.

sister morphine
02-19-2014, 03:27 AM
Thanks A&F.

But a ltb def building is the worse ltb you could have done by the way.
People complain about being stuck upgrading low income money LTBs. Now they won't be upgrading any money buildings.


I'm more interested in.....
is this going to add a million def or more? Even a million def modded isn't worth sacrificing IPH.
I would hope it will be a modifier per level to your existing defence stat rather than a flat number, otherwise it will become useless after a short time due to stat inflation. A mod of x1 per level would be nice, so at level 10 you get x10 on your defence, but unlikely. More likely to be x0.5 or x0.3 extra

mistress sherry
02-19-2014, 03:47 AM
i really dont even like defense builds. i sold the ones i had long ago and they never stop me from robbing others. a bit disappointed

X-Walk
02-19-2014, 04:12 AM
times and prices?

CCKallDAY
02-19-2014, 04:18 AM
I've seen hoods with 100 various "defense" buildings all upgraded to 10. People with similar stats to me. I've never bought a single attack or defense point, who knows what their "defense" factor was. I still rob/attack with the same win percentage as those with no "defense" buildings. Off topic: I also had a mini experiment player who had 50 attack points at low level. Never helped him win any extra battles. Therefore I believe Attack skill points, defense skill points, and defense buildings are useless unless you are at Level 250 with 500 mob.Level 250 makes it even more useless. Everyone will be strong.

WeeMac
02-19-2014, 05:19 AM
Anyone know what time it will start? Would like to try to finish one for a change.

tom73
02-19-2014, 06:06 AM
I like the idea.

Chamorrita83
02-19-2014, 06:07 AM
How much does the building cost?

bravo 6 vk
02-19-2014, 06:10 AM
Wait till tomorrow for the price!
Thanks for posting A&F

iago
02-19-2014, 06:54 AM
Its different!! that is good! I kinda like the stackable LTB, wish i had started the arcade sooner.

Prendiville
02-19-2014, 07:56 AM
I believe it starts today at 7pm gmt

Muj
02-19-2014, 08:23 AM
Price could be high, im guessing maybe 10m build cost?

(violence) vinniecc
02-19-2014, 08:30 AM
Why would a defense building be almost double the attack? What's the point in that?

Ride Jib
02-19-2014, 08:50 AM
Why would a defense building be almost double the attack? What's the point in that?

You're looking at the bonus items you win for upgrading. Those aren't the actual stats that the building itself adds.

tom73
02-19-2014, 08:57 AM
You're looking at the bonus items you win for upgrading. Those aren't the actual stats that the building itself adds.


yup. I am very curious. I hope for at least 20k d for level 1.... not holding my breath tho. :)

The Governor
02-19-2014, 09:18 AM
yup. I am very curious. I hope for at least 20k d for level 1.... not holding my breath tho. :)

I am hoping for a 100k Def max at L10. Right now this game doesn't provide real game strategy for your ultimate goal. Keep your attacker from successfully attacking you.

Nighteg
02-19-2014, 09:41 AM
I'm hoping for a buying price of ~100m.

Spaden
02-19-2014, 10:00 AM
Hoping for a price of 1 billion with 2.5 m def at level 1

DNA Polymerase III
02-19-2014, 10:45 AM
Hoping for a price of 1 billion with 2.5 m def at level 1

In that case it could only be acquired by those with the most money. When they design these events, they need to please the majority, not just the top 5% of IPH earners.

tom73
02-19-2014, 11:05 AM
Hoping for a price of 1 billion with 2.5 m def at level 1 lol. doubtful many could finish that building.

murf
02-19-2014, 11:20 AM
In that case it could only be acquired by those with the most money. When they design these events, they need to please the majority, not just the top 5% of IPH earners.

Why...because rewarding success is now viewed as bad and we have to make sure that everyone is a winner....

Actually before the last few LTBs, they had starting prices of...

12/13 - Slay Belles - $60m
11/13 - Smoked Fowl - $30m
9/13 - West Side Fine Gems - $92m
8/13 - No Interest Savings - $79m
7/13 - Shiner Still - $50m
7/13 - Transtech Building - $78m
6/13 - Toy Box - $35m
5/13 - Dockside Mills - $75m

And on each of these the L10 upgrade costs ~100x's the initial build cost. For example: L10 for the Sley Belles was $6B. So these events were all for the top 5% of IPH earners, if not the top 1%.

[INFAMOUS]
02-19-2014, 11:25 AM
10/13 - Bloody Barbershop - $15m

tom73
02-19-2014, 11:27 AM
;1207245']10/13 - Bloody Barbershop - $15m


Chinese Pagoda. 15m :)

Babytway
02-19-2014, 11:48 AM
building is 45min late, but i bet they wont adjust the end of event time

tom73
02-19-2014, 12:00 PM
building is 45min late, but i bet they wont adjust the end of event time


If 45 minutes makes a difference at the end i will buy you the gold.

cmbrbb
02-19-2014, 12:02 PM
building is 45min late, but i bet they wont adjust the end of event time
What do you mean it's 45 minutes late? Who said it was launching at 2PM EST?

Fredfreddy
02-19-2014, 12:09 PM
end date and time is 10th of march, 11am PST ... so I guess the assumption is that it's an even 19 days (or whatever it is)

cmbrbb
02-19-2014, 12:13 PM
I believe it's usually like 3PM PST. It usually appears for me around 5PM or 6PM EST.

tom73
02-19-2014, 12:16 PM
I believe it's usually like 3PM PST. It usually appears for me around 5PM or 6PM EST.

I agree that is most common. A couple of them started 5 or 6 hours later than that. Never to early to whine though. :)

Bala82
02-19-2014, 12:29 PM
can someone explain prizes so you get that car everytime you upgrade the building but no picture of building or footprint ?

DavidtheBoo
02-19-2014, 12:35 PM
can someone explain prizes so you get that car everytime you upgrade the building but no picture of building or footprint ?
Yes you will get the car for wvery upgrade, the bonus does stack, and unfortunately no pic or price of it yet

(violence) vinniecc
02-19-2014, 01:06 PM
Now it's 2 hours late, times a wasting, they will say they will adjust the time, but I've never seen that happen!

Andrew Apple Maffia
02-19-2014, 01:23 PM
How much is the build?

U alread know THE price for this deff building bro ?

(violence) vinniecc
02-19-2014, 01:29 PM
What A&F, besides the cat having your finger, cat has your tounge also? Development issies, is our game gonna crash? No answers, typical!

TheWarthog
02-19-2014, 01:32 PM
I like the idea of the stacking qualifiers, offensive and defensive points for this plus the building's natural defense. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works. What I would like in addition is to be able to upgrade a $ building at the same time. This is going to lock iph for 18 days. :-/

OmgMileyCyrus
02-19-2014, 01:33 PM
Why...because rewarding success is now viewed as bad and we have to make sure that everyone is a winner....
So these events were all for the top 5% of IPH earners, if not the top 1%.because that's the **** world we live in now, where you are punished, or at the very least, disincentivized for being successful. That's the new Obama world. Everyone gets the same without working for it.

And before anyone says "this is a game blah blah blah", you know it's true. Most want to do very little earning and a lot of complaining.

Fredfreddy
02-19-2014, 01:34 PM
What A&F, besides the cat having your finger, cat has your tounge also? Development issies, is our game gonna crash? No answers, typical!

???
She said it would be out today, she didn't say 2pm EST, people just assumed that, and they were wrong. LTBs usually come out during the US afternoon/evening, 8pm EST was a popular release time in the past.

Wrendrak
02-19-2014, 01:36 PM
times and prices?

Grateful to A&F for the advance warning about the LTB, first time I've ever seen that and hopefully not the last. Now we just need a few more details everyone is wondering about. Start Time, Footprint, Picture, Defense stats added, Build and Upgrade costs.

TobysPaw
02-19-2014, 01:39 PM
What A&F, besides the cat having your finger, cat has your tounge also? Development issies, is our game gonna crash? No answers, typical!

What is a tounge?

cmbrbb
02-19-2014, 01:42 PM
Now it's 2 hours late, times a wasting, they will say they will adjust the time, but I've never seen that happen!

Why does everyone keep saying it's late? The events usually launch at 3PM PST. So stop complaining about it being late until after that.

Assault and Flattery
02-19-2014, 01:44 PM
What, yeah, it's not late. It hasn't started yet.

DNA Polymerase III
02-19-2014, 01:44 PM
What A&F, besides the cat having your finger, cat has your tounge also? Development issies, is our game gonna crash? No answers, typical!

Do you feel better now?

sister morphine
02-19-2014, 01:47 PM
because that's the **** world we live in now, where you are punished, or at the very least, disincentivized for being successful. That's the new Obama world. Everyone gets the same without working for it.

And before anyone says "this is a game blah blah blah", you know it's true. Most want to do very little earning and a lot of complaining.
Not really the place for this discussion, but the gap between the richest and the poorest, and the richest and the middle has grown immensely in recent years. So, if there's some correction to that forgive me for not shedding tears on behalf of the super wealthy.

Assault and Flattery
02-19-2014, 01:47 PM
What A&F, besides the cat having your finger, cat has your tounge also? Development issies, is our game gonna crash? No answers, typical!

I am not sure what you're asking, but here is a picture of my cat's tongue hanging out.

http://i.imgur.com/OmU4MUi.jpg

murf
02-19-2014, 02:09 PM
Not really the place for this discussion, but the gap between the richest and the poorest, and the richest and the middle has grown immensely in recent years. So, if there's some correction to that forgive me for not shedding tears on behalf of the super wealthy.

I think most people are ok with the super wealthy getting slightly less...I think the real issue that most opponents have (and as it applies to CC) is that those that aren't as well off (weaker, low IPH players in CC) are beginning to expect handouts (super-cheap LTBs) and take any existing ones for granted (softness of Epic Boss L100)...there is a sense of entitlement, that just because they play this stupid game they deserve to be able to take every LTB to L10 gold-free (this is how this discussion started).

At least that's the way I see it...I could be wrong (I usually am)

polly
02-19-2014, 02:29 PM
Well, I know as a higher level player that splayed from almost the beginning with small amount of gold spent and decent iph, that epic boss is very difficult to complete.

I still feel not every goal should require gold. Used to be that some events we would choose to not participate in so we didn't level up. Rewards at that time were just not as high stat increases so choice actually didn't hurt you to much to skip.

Now it seems you need gold for everything or you are left behind. As it is I already feel that way as I used to play this on a kindle fire.

bruner
02-19-2014, 02:32 PM
I am not sure what you're asking, but here is a picture of my cat's tongue hanging out.

http://i.imgur.com/OmU4MUi.jpg


That's funny chit right there!

OmgMileyCyrus
02-19-2014, 02:36 PM
I think most people are ok with the super wealthy getting slightly less...I think the real issue that most opponents have (and as it applies to CC) is that those that aren't as well off (weaker, low IPH players in CC) are beginning to expect handouts (super-cheap LTBs) and take any existing ones for granted (softness of Epic Boss L100)...there is a sense of entitlement, that just because they play this stupid game they deserve to be able to take every LTB to L10 gold-free (this is how this discussion started).

At least that's the way I see it...I could be wrong (I usually am)nope that's exactly what I was saying. I don't expect everything to be catered to the stronger, higher IPH guys but dam, can the newbies and gold free players give it a break for once. Jesus Christ. It's supposed to mean something when you are strong/high iph and that means getting things others don't. That's the incentive to get that way! Now ever Tom, ****, and Harry thinks we need ice rink and arcade ltbs and epic boss that can be free hit at level 100 for a brand new account. It's a crock of ****

b-w
02-19-2014, 02:38 PM
My daughters little yorkie makes that exact face..

cditti
02-19-2014, 02:41 PM
100 million and 10k defense

bruner
02-19-2014, 02:44 PM
The build cost is $100M ?

cloud strife
02-19-2014, 02:45 PM
just one question.....WHY? ._. It went from crap LTB to ...a DEFENCE BUILDING? WHY!?

Zippy69
02-19-2014, 02:46 PM
LMAO!!!

2 Cheap IPH LTBs followed by a Defense LTB costing 100,000,000!!!

WTF GREEdy!!!

Way to go, can't even Build Level 1 & no way I'd waste that amount of money either!!!

thanks again

b-w
02-19-2014, 02:49 PM
WHAT? say that one more time and be for real..100 million defense building..get the ......

b-w
02-19-2014, 02:50 PM
If it don't make any money then why the ...

somebody is playing a mean joke

is this even real?

cool story bro

murf
02-19-2014, 02:52 PM
LMAO!!!

2 Cheap IPH LTBs followed by a Defense LTB costing 100,000,000!!!

WTF GREEdy!!!



Way to go, can't even Build Level 1 & no way I'd waste that amount of money either!!!

thanks again

Lol. Many people bought the $1.5b item that had something like 30k/30k stats last LTQ. So this is pretty cheap esp since you also get a weapon w a mod.

murf
02-19-2014, 02:53 PM
100 million and 10k defense

If this has a type B progression. Level 10 will cost 10B and have 300k defense. I guess we'll see.

(violence) vinniecc
02-19-2014, 02:53 PM
I am not sure what you're asking, but here is a picture of my cat's tongue hanging out.

http://i.imgur.com/OmU4MUi.jpg Are you sure that's not your tongue? Just kidding!

Orkanen
02-19-2014, 02:59 PM
Awesome! :-) This ltb is the best one in a very long time. Nice stats on the loot plus a mod on it, then add the stats on the building.
Not to mention that its for thoose who can afford it and putted some time to invest on their iph and not for thoose who just slack around like minis and other scumbags in this game. Once again, Awesome!

Proud member of The Commission

djonny88
02-19-2014, 02:59 PM
thanks man for making it expensive as hell, thanks to the guy who asked for this.. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT

GucciMane
02-19-2014, 03:01 PM
Thank you so much for listening to the players! Building is very appropriately priced for the stat/stacking mod boosts. I was getting worried with the throwback arcade. This event looks fun!

b-w
02-19-2014, 03:01 PM
oh so you didn't know that scumbuckets can just buy it with gold and still be lazy? that's the rumor.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:04 PM
Where does the 100m number come from?

sap_pete
02-19-2014, 03:04 PM
100 mil to start lol. Thanks for the big F U to all the newer players.

Stillmatic
02-19-2014, 03:05 PM
Passing on this one and patiently await a nice iph building

tgreen
02-19-2014, 03:07 PM
100 mil to start lol. Thanks for the big F U to all the newer players.

Waaaaaa! I'm new. I want everything the long time players had to work for . Waaaa, waaa!

Kudos GREE! If you can't get it or afford it... welcome to how the game used to be. Go work and build for the next one.

Stop sticking your hand out like you are entitled.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:11 PM
Purchased. :)

TobysPaw
02-19-2014, 03:13 PM
Waaaaaa! I'm new. I want everything the long time players had to work for . Waaaa, waaa!

Kudos GREE! If you can't get it or afford it... welcome to how the game used to be. Go work and build for the next one.

Stop sticking your hand out like you are entitled.

Damn right!!

GucciMane
02-19-2014, 03:16 PM
When I joined this game the Chinese Pagoda came out two weeks later.



It's still growth-wise one of the best LTBs in the game. And damn straight I still miss it to this day. But back then we didn't cry when we couldn't afford the LTB.

sap_pete
02-19-2014, 03:19 PM
Waaaaaa! I'm new. I want everything the long time players had to work for . Waaaa, waaa!

Kudos GREE! If you can't get it or afford it... welcome to how the game used to be. Go work and build for the next one.

Stop sticking your hand out like you are entitled.

Quit being a douche. Nobody had to "work" for iph, just be around long enough. If the gap widens between older and newer players, the newer players will drop out, and this game will collapse even sooner than it already will. Enjoy what you "worked" for lmao.

mike jones
02-19-2014, 03:21 PM
I have 120M in the bank and only 1M iph... i think ill save for my next NC upgrade and skip this one as i MIGHT be able to take it to lvl 3 only...

tgreen
02-19-2014, 03:21 PM
Quit being a douche. Nobody had to "work" for iph, just be around long enough. If the gap widens between older and newer players, the newer players will drop out, and this game will collapse even sooner than it already will. Enjoy what you "worked" for lmao.


I am enjoying it. I am already building it. prob build two of them... and fully upgrade.

Waaaa, the gap between new and old is too big. Waaaa! Life isn't fair.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:27 PM
Quit being a douche. Nobody had to "work" for iph, just be around long enough. If the gap widens between older and newer players, the newer players will drop out, and this game will collapse even sooner than it already will. Enjoy what you "worked" for lmao. if there is anything you work at in this game it is iph. Does not happen by default.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:28 PM
I have 120M in the bank and only 1M iph... i think ill save for my next NC upgrade and skip this one as i MIGHT be able to take it to lvl 3 only... sounds reasonable

Sammo the Kid
02-19-2014, 03:28 PM
Happy to buy it and happy to see it's not for the faint of heart

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:32 PM
When I joined this game the Chinese Pagoda came out two weeks later.



It's still growth-wise one of the best LTBs in the game. And damn straight I still miss it to this day. But back then we didn't cry when we couldn't afford the LTB.


I only bought 1. Probably my worst decision in cc. Who would know that would be last type 1 building?

MattyCC
02-19-2014, 03:35 PM
This is why this game is dying. The old people stay strong and the newbies can't finish anything. The elder ones will complain about gold and the new users won't use gold because what's the point if they ever can't finish anything. Lol too much. Too rich for my blood

AdamVD
02-19-2014, 03:40 PM
Bought mine going to look nice next to my throwback.

GucciMane
02-19-2014, 03:41 PM
This is why this game is dying. The old people stay strong and the newbies can't finish anything. The elder ones will complain about gold and the new users won't use gold because what's the point if they ever can't finish anything. Lol too much. Too rich for my blood


This is a flat out lie. And not everyone needs to finish every event.


As a level 100-150 who has been in the game well over a year, level 250's get the short end of the stick. Back when they were your level, <100K stats were appropriate.


Now, my syn mates can make a new account during the epic boss, and get it up to a 1M stats before even leaving tier 2.



The only thing the old school players have over you is mods, experience, and LTBs. Stop telling lies.


This event ONLY COSTS IN GAME CASH. That virtual currency doesn't cost any money, troll.

24K
02-19-2014, 03:41 PM
This is why this game is dying. The old people stay strong and the newbies can't finish anything. The elder ones will complain about gold and the new users won't use gold because what's the point if they ever can't finish anything. Lol too much. Too rich for my blood
Wah wah wah...
This is GREEd we're talking about...
Whatever lines their pockets quicker!

"Straight IPH Homie!!!"
"Work on the IPH, & the rest will come..."

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:41 PM
This is why this game is dying. The old people stay strong and the newbies can't finish anything. The elder ones will complain about gold and the new users won't use gold because what's the point if they ever can't finish anything. Lol too much. Too rich for my blood young players easily have an advantage and are catching older players. Events like this are good for the game. My mini has almost the same stats although 100 levels lower than main. This event keeps main account relevant.

24K
02-19-2014, 03:43 PM
Bought mine going to look nice next to my throwback.
Sold the lame throwback to replace it with the Beachfront Retreat.

sonic_empire
02-19-2014, 03:44 PM
Why the price for LTB is not divided like on Epic Bosses, by tiers so newer players would be able to afford it as well. Gree seems to not care about their future gold spenders. thats so unGreedy

Nighteg
02-19-2014, 03:45 PM
Thanks for the challenge. Probably won't be able to finish, but better super expensive than super crap like last time.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:46 PM
Why the price for LTB is not divided like on Epic Bosses, by tiers so newer players would be able to afford it as well. Gree seems to not care about their future gold spenders. thats so unGreedy so logically gree should tier epic boss prizes so lower levels get smaller prizes then right?

sonic_empire
02-19-2014, 03:48 PM
so logically gree should tier epic boss prizes so lower levels get smaller prizes then right?
Not really, gap between older players and new players getting bigger and bigger..they will never catch up unless spend massive amounts of gold. but with tiers (like on epic bosses) they have fighting chance

Jason_Bourne
02-19-2014, 03:50 PM
Quit whining guys! Go build you own game, or otherwise these are the rules of THIS game... take it or leave it! Just enough with whining. If you newbies work hard enough you will build an empire too; it just doesn't come over night...

Can someone please report the cost for next upgrade(s)??

The Reaper
02-19-2014, 03:50 PM
This one gets expensive fast! (assuming it follows the normal trend of upgrade prices)

http://i.imgur.com/UOjffry.png

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:51 PM
Not really, gap between older players and new players getting bigger and bigger..they will never catch up unless spend massive amounts of gold. but with tiers (like on epic bosses) they have fighting chance haha. You could not be more wrong even with coaching.

tom73
02-19-2014, 03:54 PM
This one gets expensive fast! (assuming it follows the normal trend of upgrade prices)

http://i.imgur.com/UOjffry.png

Thx Reaper. Does anyone know what the building stats are?

Orkanen
02-19-2014, 04:18 PM
This kind of ltbs are the one who makes it worth having iph and to go out on robbing sprees. i only have 800k iph but i still love this ltb, will reach lvl 3 on this one and that is fair in my opinion. and to all new players i can only say this: we "old" players have once been new players to, i have struggled and fought to earn my stats and iph. i played for six months 24/7 to be average in this game.
Take it or leave it! When we now have an expensive ltb i can build some iph, focus havent been on that for a while cuz of cheap ltbs.

Proud member of The Commission

AdamVD
02-19-2014, 04:26 PM
I'm interested to see if the 10k will curve robbing or will it be just a stat builder that does nothing but build stats.

erik
02-19-2014, 04:37 PM
Great building cost. We need more like this.

GucciMane
02-19-2014, 04:38 PM
I'm interested to see if the 10k will curve robbing or will it be just a stat builder that does nothing but build stats.


It won't. You need almost 2x the defense to curb robbing, getting the car alone negates the defense bonus for each level.

murf
02-19-2014, 05:05 PM
so logically gree should tier epic boss prizes so lower levels get smaller prizes then right?

That's the way they started out if anyone remembers that far back.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
02-19-2014, 05:10 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about.

So you get a small modifier and a more stats.

Then you are put in a different group with the same stats.

Modifiers are all but irrelevant now.

murf
02-19-2014, 05:26 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about.

So you get a small modifier and a more stats.

Then you are put in a different group with the same stats.

Modifiers are all but irrelevant now.

100% agree. I'm hoping that Gree sees the light at some point and switches the rival list back. So that stats matter again.

ShawnBB
02-19-2014, 05:32 PM
Cheers murf, time to buy some big boys!

Randin17
02-19-2014, 05:41 PM
Hey guys,

This is a different type of LTB ... a defense building! Yes, the mods stack. It begins tomorrow.


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/Crime%20City/LTB_Beachfront_Retreat_zpsf4d4f27a.jpg?t=139276726 2

Here is the extremely diverse breakdown:


http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a538/giiforums/BEACH_zpsc94e53e1.png

I think it's about time u make that executive coupe stackable too

Fredfreddy
02-19-2014, 05:45 PM
The only lingering question is, are defensive buildings fixed? The old ones only gave you phony defense stats, what does this 10000 defense on the building actually do?

gcooldude
02-19-2014, 06:22 PM
What the upgrade cost and upgrade time on this?

Fredfreddy
02-19-2014, 06:43 PM
What the upgrade cost and upgrade time on this?

It's further up in this thread
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?83957-Relax-on-the-Beach-in-the-Beachfront-Retreat!&p=1207710&viewfull=1#post1207710

Takumi
02-19-2014, 07:11 PM
Can I sell and get my 100 mil back

(violence) vinniecc
02-19-2014, 07:35 PM
What, yeah, it's not late. It hasn't started yet.Sorry got a little confused with my words and my time zone, Thanks A &F!

Hitmanfor4hire
02-19-2014, 07:37 PM
I know this doesn't match this conversation, but It wouldn't let me start a new thread. What is the difference between an epic boss event and a special epic boss event. I've never seen one and one starts on 2.26?

KemoKidd
02-19-2014, 08:01 PM
I know this doesn't match this conversation, but It wouldn't let me start a new thread. What is the difference between an epic boss event and a special epic boss event. I've never seen one and one starts on 2.26?

The epic boss event is not special. The special epic boss event is.

Jk. I have no clue and your guess is as good as ours. I think its special bc Gree gets even more gold from people!

Edit: Btw, I believe you need 10 posts before you can start a thread.

Hitmanfor4hire
02-19-2014, 08:24 PM
Thanks for the 10 post info on threads. Yeah I've never seen a Special Epic Boss event. It will likely have a really high item reward to generate a lot of gold, high cash payouts per boss beaten and more. Was just curious if anyone knew in advance.

cc thunder
02-19-2014, 09:16 PM
I don't know what all the fuss is about.

So you get a small modifier and a more stats.

Then you are put in a different group with the same stats.

Modifiers are all but irrelevant now. yes but you get to see new rivals that are far more powerful than you isn't that something?

Danny Clear
02-19-2014, 09:22 PM
17 bill 2 fully upgrade pretty crazy. Think ill save my money 4 the next ltq where u can purchase items. Alot more stats 2 gain

HavingFun
02-19-2014, 09:24 PM
This is why this game is dying. The old people stay strong and the newbies can't finish anything. The elder ones will complain about gold and the new users won't use gold because what's the point if they ever can't finish anything. Lol too much. Too rich for my blood
Ever can't finish anything. Thanks, that made me laugh. Now stop crying and work on your iph.

Luca1
02-19-2014, 09:35 PM
So, has anyone found out if the 10k defense boost is once or does it increase with each upgrade?

evillance123
02-19-2014, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the 10 post info on threads. Yeah I've never seen a Special Epic Boss event. It will likely have a really high item reward to generate a lot of gold, high cash payouts per boss beaten and more. Was just curious if anyone knew in advance.

Im thinking itll be like the ones in MW which will suck.

you lee
02-19-2014, 10:51 PM
So, has anyone found out if the 10k defense boost is once or does it increase with each upgrade?

its increase everytime you upgrade, Lvl 2 will give you 20k def stat

Heapsofblue
02-19-2014, 11:13 PM
So, has anyone found out if the 10k defense boost is once or does it increase with each upgrade?

Just did first upgrade and defence increased to 20,000

Heapsofblue
02-19-2014, 11:14 PM
Just did first upgrade and defence increased to 20,000what I want to know is can we buy more than two...

sister morphine
02-19-2014, 11:25 PM
Thanks for the 10 post info on threads. Yeah I've never seen a Special Epic Boss event. It will likely have a really high item reward to generate a lot of gold, high cash payouts per boss beaten and more. Was just curious if anyone knew in advance.
Possibly similar to one running in MW now. A mix of LTQ (80 levels) and epic boss (80 levels). The boss part isn't just about killing 80 bosses though. You get numerous different bosses to take to level 10; each boss consists of 4 levels - for killing 1, 3, 6 and 10 - so you'll probably need to kill 200 bosses to complete it. So each boss goes back to a weaker state on level 1, but each successive boss group gets tougher.

There is no daily boss faction event attached, and the prizes remain the same throughout.

sister morphine
02-19-2014, 11:44 PM
Just did first upgrade and defence increased to 20,000
Could you be a bit clearer? Did you get a 20,000 boost for level 2 to add to the 10,000 from level 1 or just another 10,000?

Needs someone to report back on level 3 for a better idea of where this is headed, but worst projection of the boost being 10,000 x level is a whopping 550,000 boost in total (lol, worth your billions, not!)

Better is if the boost doubles for each level could be 10 million+

Heapsofblue
02-20-2014, 12:47 AM
[QUOTE=sister morphine;1208179]Could you be a bit clearer? Did you get a 20,000 boost for level 2 to add to the 10,000 from level 1 or just another 10,000?

Needs someone to report back on level 3 for a better idea of where this is headed, but worst projection of the boost being 10,000 x level is a whopping 550,000 boost in total (lol, worth your billions, not!)

Ok so got 10.000 for first level.. Now upgrading to second level which told would be worth 20,000 when completed... So am guessing 3rd level will be 30.000 but wont know till 2nd upgrade is completed... Watch this space...
But im guessing it doubles with each level... If so then i am happy with this ltb

sister morphine
02-20-2014, 12:58 AM
Ok so got 10.000 for first level.. Now upgrading to second level which told would be worth 20,000 when completed... So am guessing 3rd level will be 30.000 but wont know till 2nd upgrade is completed... Watch this space...
But im guessing it doubles with each level... If so then i am happy with this ltb
Thanks.

If the boost is doubled each level you'd still need to be able to get to level 7 to make 1 million+, level 8 or better for something meaningful really.

LtotheG
02-20-2014, 01:03 AM
LTB should be a building thats special, a LTB should be a build that people who missed it still want so badly...
no-one really wants the sl-ice rink, throwback arcade or this defense building..

Orkanen
02-20-2014, 01:09 AM
Your right that ppl dont want the buildings, but they would like to have the loot that came from the buildings. I know i would if i didnt already have them!

sister morphine
02-20-2014, 02:03 AM
If the defence building was affordable for me - disclaimer alert: I'm not some no iph noob, just to forestall the inevitable yapping doggies - I'd be going for it. But if Reaper's cost projections are accurate then it's just silly. Will be putting my money into buying the SLTQ weapons instead.

Muj
02-20-2014, 02:10 AM
100 mil to start lol. Thanks for the big F U to all the newer players.
The past few LTBs especially the Arcade was a big F U to people who actually work on their iph. Although if it was a money bldg it would've been better..

And hey they took my 1% stacking mod idea :cool:

Nighteg
02-20-2014, 02:21 AM
The past few LTBs especially the Arcade was a big F U to people who actually work on their iph. Although if it was a money bldg it would've been better..

+1

I won't be able to fully upgrade it, but i'm glad there's finally a challenge, after loads of crap LTBs.

TheWarthog
02-20-2014, 05:36 AM
I think I wish I had used my 100 million to buy the ltq weapons. I may sell the ltb as soon as it finishes unless the upgrades somehow aren't as expensive.

Takumi
02-20-2014, 05:47 AM
I think I wish I had used my 100 million to buy the ltq weapons. I may sell the ltb as soon as it finishes unless the upgrades somehow aren't as expensive.
If you sell will you get 100 mil back?

Orkanen
02-20-2014, 05:56 AM
No you get 50% back (50 mil)

tom73
02-20-2014, 06:25 AM
I think I wish I had used my 100 million to buy the ltq weapons. I may sell the ltb as soon as it finishes unless the upgrades somehow aren't as expensive.

ltq weapons are free if syndicate completes goals. no? You can have both. :)

rayu
02-20-2014, 07:18 AM
Just trying to relax so that I don't stand on my phone and break it!!

murf
02-20-2014, 07:32 AM
I think I wish I had used my 100 million to buy the ltq weapons. I may sell the ltb as soon as it finishes unless the upgrades somehow aren't as expensive.

I agree...I wish I did that on my mini as well...and then just bought it later in the 18-day LTB cycle.

murf
02-20-2014, 07:35 AM
Thanks.

If the boost is doubled each level you'd still need to be able to get to level 7 to make 1 million+, level 8 or better for something meaningful really.

Most likely it's similar to the payouts on Type B buildings...so L10 will be 30x's L1 or 300,000 defense in this case....

Bobcc68
02-20-2014, 08:09 AM
Level 3 is 35000 defense

sister morphine
02-20-2014, 08:29 AM
Most likely it's similar to the payouts on Type B buildings...so L10 will be 30x's L1 or 300,000 defense in this case....
Thanks. Can you extrapolate what the likely total defence boost is? Would it be worthwhile for anybody to do this except for the cars for finishing each level

Euchred
02-20-2014, 08:47 AM
Thanks. Can you extrapolate what the likely total defence boost is? Would it be worthwhile for anybody to do this except for the cars for finishing each level

The "type B" data

1. 10,000
2. 20,000
3. 35,000
4. 55,000
5. 80,000
6. 110,000
7. 145,000
8. 185,000
9. 230,000
10. 300,000

Plus the defence building defence % mod that I'm sure every syn has. So how many can we buy?

tom73
02-20-2014, 08:57 AM
The "type B" data

1. 10,000
2. 20,000
3. 35,000
4. 55,000
5. 80,000
6. 110,000
7. 145,000
8. 185,000
9. 230,000
10. 300,000

Plus the defence building defence % mod that I'm sure every syn has. So how many can we buy?
So the next question is: Will these d buildings prevent robs? or just look pretty? :) There is a reason we all sold our old buildings. Not true defense.

murf
02-20-2014, 09:18 AM
The "type B" data

1. 10,000
2. 20,000
3. 35,000
4. 55,000
5. 80,000
6. 110,000
7. 145,000
8. 185,000
9. 230,000
10. 300,000

Plus the defence building defence % mod that I'm sure every syn has. So how many can we buy?

Thanks for posting the detailed data...

That's the big question, if we can buy 18 of these (1 every day of event) then over time you can possibly build up some type of meaningful defense. Although with stat inflation here to stay, the value of the building (even with more than 2) will be insignificant in the near future.

gcfreem
02-20-2014, 09:24 AM
So the next question is: Will these d buildings prevent robs? or just look pretty? :) There is a reason we all sold our old buildings. Not true defense.

These will do absolutely nothing to prevent robberies. You need your defense to be about twice your rivals attack to prevent a robbery. With the new stupid rivals list, all your rivals have similar (or better) stats than yourself, so all of your rivals can rob you. If you increase your stats, you just get tougher rivals.

The only way to protect yourself, under the new system, is to get your defense close to twice your own attack, which is pretty much impossible. My attack is 15 mil, def 12 mil. I would need to build 2000 of these to protect my self from my current rivals, not even taking into account that my rivals would get better because my stats went up.

Ourpalace
02-20-2014, 09:56 AM
I think that this is fair. You attack someone and get retaliation no matter how strong you are.


These will do absolutely nothing to prevent robberies. You need your defense to be about twice your rivals attack to prevent a robbery. With the new stupid rivals list, all your rivals have similar (or better) stats than yourself, so all of your rivals can rob you. If you increase your stats, you just get tougher rivals.

The only way to protect yourself, under the new system, is to get your defense close to twice your own attack, which is pretty much impossible. My attack is 15 mil, def 12 mil. I would need to build 2000 of these to protect my self from my current rivals, not even taking into account that my rivals would get better because my stats went up.

gcfreem
02-20-2014, 10:31 AM
I think that this is fair. You attack someone and get retaliation no matter how strong you are.

But you can't retaliate against someone with 1/10 your IPH. All you do is give them a link back to your hood.

KingOW
02-20-2014, 11:16 AM
Worst LTB EVER! I my opinion Throwback arcade was better and that says a lot...

Ourpalace
02-20-2014, 11:27 AM
I once hit a nearly no money building rival and he kept raid me almost every hours for nearly two days:-)


But you can't retaliate against someone with 1/10 your IPH. All you do is give them a link back to your hood.

tom73
02-20-2014, 11:37 AM
I once hit a nearly no money building rival and he kept raid me almost every hours for nearly two days:-)

Hit em all... Every now and again you find a weenie with attachment issues. Collect on time and you will win more than you lose.

OmgMileyCyrus
02-20-2014, 12:18 PM
Hit em all... Every now and again you find a weenie with attachment issues. Collect on time and you will win more than you lose.ahhh tom it feels good to read the words of at least one other sane person in this thread

b-w
02-20-2014, 01:00 PM
Well..I may be in the scumbag class but if i see you in my rivals list and you have this building then i'm still robbing you..As far as "we work hard on our iph"...Well, awesome. I work hard at finding people who work hard on their iph so i can rob them. I mental note them and i come back as often as i can. I don't see faces and it isn't personal. You aren't real human beings who like oatmeal and micheal jordan..You don't have families..You are $$ to me..so too bad. Rob me back..I won't cry. I'll be thankful that i don't have to search for your name through the list anymore. All is fair..it's a game. Boo Hoo.

cmbrbb
02-20-2014, 01:41 PM
Well..I may be in the scumbag class but if i see you in my rivals list and you have this building then i'm still robbing you..As far as "we work hard on our iph"...Well, awesome. I work hard at finding people who work hard on their iph so i can rob them. I mental note them and i come back as often as i can. I don't see faces and it isn't personal. You aren't real human beings who like oatmeal and micheal jordan..You don't have families..You are $$ to me..so too bad. Rob me back..I won't cry. I'll be thankful that i don't have to search for your name through the list anymore. All is fair..it's a game. Boo Hoo.

Fully agree with this. My philosophy has always been, for 4-6 hours a day I expect to be robbed because I'm sleeping; the rest of the day it's my fault if I don't collect on time. I don't get mad at the person, I attack that if it's worth it and if not I move on to the other 20 people who I notated that have high iph and I have had success robbing before. I manage to bank about $15-20 million a day between my iph ($281k) and robbing.

TheRealAnarchy
02-20-2014, 02:09 PM
I welcome the change :-)

TheRealAnarchy
02-20-2014, 02:12 PM
So the next question is: Will these d buildings prevent robs? or just look pretty? :) There is a reason we all sold our old buildings. Not true defense.

LOL, nothing will prevent robs with the new RL, rivals will be stronger at the same rate you build your own strength...

FlyMeMoon
02-20-2014, 02:19 PM
The past few LTBs especially the Arcade was a big F U to people who actually work on their iph. Although if it was a money bldg it would've been better..

And hey they took my 1% stacking mod idea :cool:

I thought the same thing or similar until I started playing with my mini more seriously. i.e. there are other players in this game like those starting out.

gcfreem
02-20-2014, 02:20 PM
Well..I may be in the scumbag class but if i see you in my rivals list and you have this building then i'm still robbing you..As far as "we work hard on our iph"...Well, awesome. I work hard at finding people who work hard on their iph so i can rob them. I mental note them and i come back as often as i can. I don't see faces and it isn't personal. You aren't real human beings who like oatmeal and micheal jordan..You don't have families..You are $$ to me..so too bad. Rob me back..I won't cry. I'll be thankful that i don't have to search for your name through the list anymore. All is fair..it's a game. Boo Hoo.

Fair enough. If you want to play the game that way, go ahead. Problem is, I used to be able to protect myself from players like you by increasing my stats. Now I can't. No matter what I do, all of my rivals can rob me. So what's the point?

b-w
02-20-2014, 02:25 PM
Fair enough. If you want to play the game that way, go ahead. Problem is, I used to be able to protect myself from players like you by increasing my stats. Now I can't. No matter what I do, all of my rivals can rob me. So what's the point?
Yeah but see..don't take my post serious because it wasn't aimed at you. It was pointed at someone else earlier who said "scumbags don't work on their own iph and rob...etc.etc.etc."..Like this building was some kind of reward for the "elder players who spend all day busting their butts on their iph"..when in reality it's what you just said. You appear on the rivals list and you can be robbed..so how the f did that help you? You threw 100m out of the window. I don't care if you throw your ipad and phone right after it..It's yours to do with what you wish. I was specifically talking about the people who think this bldg is slice bread and they are safe from the "scumbag" thieves now..WRONG ANSWER..Apologies to you though..

b-w
02-20-2014, 02:27 PM
Really what i should have said is congrats..you just graduated to a new tier of scumbags so keep working on your iph all day so they can score huge on you.

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 02:32 PM
Well..I may be in the scumbag class but if i see you in my rivals list and you have this building then i'm still robbing you..As far as "we work hard on our iph"...Well, awesome. I work hard at finding people who work hard on their iph so i can rob them. I mental note them and i come back as often as i can. I don't see faces and it isn't personal. You aren't real human beings who like oatmeal and micheal jordan..You don't have families..You are $$ to me..so too bad. Rob me back..I won't cry. I'll be thankful that i don't have to search for your name through the list anymore. All is fair..it's a game. Boo Hoo.Congratulations. Gree has rewarded your complete incompetence when it comes to being self sufficient. All of us high income folks will either shut off our hoods and start the repayment process or just leave entirely. Lets see how you like robbing other folks at the bottom of this pathetically disastrous fecal filled barrel.

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 02:38 PM
Another thing. This building should have 3 million defense on it at level 10 for the price. Now if 50 could be built, I might stop telling gree they are pieces of dung and belittling pathetic leaches. There needs to still be a way for high income folks to stop cold anyone with low income in game that doesn't deserve to set foot in our hoods.

b-w
02-20-2014, 02:45 PM
Congratulations. Gree has rewarded your complete incompetence when it comes to being self sufficient. All of us high income folks will either shut off our hoods and start the repayment process or just leave entirely. Lets see how you like robbing other folks at the bottom of this pathetically disastrous fecal filled barrel.
Hey they have this game that my little girl plays and there is no robbing or anything on it..It's a disney game i think..You will love it..They probably give participation prizes when you lose! YAY!

What's dumb is that a MAJOR part of this game is robbing other players and ya'll acting like it's a dirty tactic or cheating..Maybe you should request a feature that will let a player forfeit to others in a syndicate battle sometimes just so some don't feel bullied and behave like a child. Take your ball and go home?..WEAK. Here's the door junior. Take care.

I don't like the rivals list either and i want it back like it was. I haven't seen an IPH in the millions since it changed. So lucky ya'll..

b-w
02-20-2014, 02:50 PM
Why aren't you addressing these complaints to people with 10 million iph at level 71 with 600k attack and defense? I mean..really? You want me to just say nah..Wouldn't be a nice gesture to rob them. How about those that work hard on attk and def? What's our advantage? What's the point? Should we call the game and go home all winners? Not me.

They put a rob button on there and i'm going to wear it out. I hope everyone robs me back. It's a game. It's fun. It's not real you know.

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 03:00 PM
Hey they have this game that my little girl plays and there is no robbing or anything on it..It's a disney game i think..You will love it..They probably give participation prizes when you lose! YAY!

What's dumb is that a MAJOR part of this game is robbing other players and ya'll acting like it's a dirty tactic or cheating..Maybe you should request a feature that will let a player forfeit to others in a syndicate battle sometimes just so some don't feel bullied and behave like a child. Take your ball and go home?..WEAK. Here's the door junior. Take care.

I don't like the rivals list either and i want it back like it was. I haven't seen an IPH in the millions since it changed. So lucky ya'll..None of you low income folks seem to grasp the concept high income people are preaching. Your pathetically insufficient attempt at humiliation aside, robbing isn't the problem and never has been. The high income players should be able to defend themselves, in many cases, COMPLETELY, from low income scum robbing them. We are talking equality in defense and attack. It's a rather simple word, equality. The way things are set up now, low or no income is actually REWARDED. That is WRONG.

What's really interesting is you just said you and I are in the same boat as far as our situation. Perhaps next time we can avoid insults, this being known.

sister morphine
02-20-2014, 03:00 PM
Hey they have this game that my little girl plays and there is no robbing or anything on it..It's a disney game i think..You will love it..They probably give participation prizes when you lose! YAY!

What's dumb is that a MAJOR part of this game is robbing other players and ya'll acting like it's a dirty tactic or cheating..Maybe you should request a feature that will let a player forfeit to others in a syndicate battle sometimes just so some don't feel bullied and behave like a child. Take your ball and go home?..WEAK. Here's the door junior. Take care.

I don't like the rivals list either and i want it back like it was. I haven't seen an IPH in the millions since it changed. So lucky ya'll..
Sure robbing is a major part of the game. It is a crime game after all. What there isn't is any way to either effectively defend one's hood, or retaliate against players in a way that would hurt their activities. If you're going to design a game to represent organised crime those things should be reflected. Who in the real world would just sit back and let upstart rivals take slices of their pie unchallenged?

Beating hell out of a robber does nothing, except give them a link and stop others from hitting them for a couple of hours. That'll learn 'em.... yeah right! If a player who'd been robbed could beat up the robber, and that would stop them from attacking or robbing anybody else for a period it would impact on them nicely. Just keep hitting them every two hours and they'd soon come calling for a truce. :p

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Why aren't you addressing these complaints to people with 10 million iph at level 71 with 600k attack and defense? I mean..really? You want me to just say nah..Wouldn't be a nice gesture to rob them. How about those that work hard on attk and def? What's our advantage? What's the point? Should we call the game and go home all winners? Not me.

They put a rob button on there and i'm going to wear it out. I hope everyone robs me back. It's a game. It's fun. It's not real you know.Wear it out. Don't give gree a dime. Each person has a fun aspect to the game they enjoy. My fun aspect was completely removed from the game.

Myro
02-20-2014, 03:06 PM
Anyone else notice that nothing actually happened to your atk when you got the BMW Beach roadster.... no 21.725 atk increase and certainly no 1% car atk increase.....

berrybladzs
02-20-2014, 03:11 PM
Thank you gree for making another ltb that peeps who are free players could never obtain ! 100 million is total bull crap and you know it !!!

Myro
02-20-2014, 03:12 PM
Anyone else notice that nothing actually happened to your atk when you got the BMW Beach roadster.... no 21.725 atk increase and certainly no 1% car atk increase.....


for what it's worth, game went down and came up and now the bonuses appear to be present.

Thanks for the quick fix.

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 03:17 PM
Thank you gree for making another ltb that peeps who are free players could never obtain ! 100 million is total bull crap and you know it !!!I'm a free player and I can level this thing to 10 without breaking a sweat. Exclusivity is fine, the building should be extremely high income, not defensive, because defensive buildings have no point with the current defensive system layout.

berrybladzs
02-20-2014, 03:21 PM
You are a liar ! free player pffftttt

berrybladzs
02-20-2014, 03:22 PM
You can LMB too !!same as gree can you wanker !!!

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 03:30 PM
Lol, quiet little boy before I put you in the corner.

berrybladzs
02-20-2014, 03:36 PM
You wish little boy !!!

berrybladzs
02-20-2014, 03:40 PM
Always the same ol crap from gree ! Just has a different wrapper around it !!!

Zendfrim
02-20-2014, 03:45 PM
Now that, I agree with. Screw this company.

trickymicky
02-20-2014, 04:08 PM
im glad its a crappy ltb,, my pagodas can get some love!! lvl 6 in progress

redriise
02-20-2014, 04:32 PM
Lol it would be no fun if it cost 5mil that 100mil goes up to about 100billion after upgrades

Nighteg
02-20-2014, 04:55 PM
Stop wining. If it's too expensive for you, you have 18 days to go work on your IPH.

gREeALIST
02-20-2014, 05:15 PM
Thank you gree for making another ltb that peeps who are free players could never obtain ! 100 million is total bull crap and you know it !!!
What's "bull crap" is dealing with players who have overinflated A/D stats and rubbish IPH numbers because they couldn't be bothered with building their hoods. After all, why build a hood when you can just rob others to meet daily IPH contributions for your syn? If your IPH is under $10K (and I see them everywhere), one rob meets that quota and they just pocket the rest (lazy, useless bottom feeders that are a dime a dozen :mad: ). It's not the campers that are ruining this game; it's the twits with week-old accounts that piggyback a mid-tier syn for event bonuses and prizes, thinking that they're infallible and indispensable just because they have a few million A/D under their belt. :rolleyes:

FYI: I bought the Beachfront Retreat, I plan on leveling it up (for the prizes and modifier) and I am a free player. Learn to play the game and maybe you'll earn some cred here (for what that's worth).

Sarah MTH
02-20-2014, 05:34 PM
I'm also a free player who has steadily built IPH and A/D all over 6M thanks to activity and time. I couldn't be happier, I finally have something to do with my money. If your crying about not being able to upgrade your building or buy the nice toys that have become available then you should've built your game more evenly and thought about the long run. If your new to the game then be thankful you've learned this lesson early and start changing your play. We've all beenburnt one way or another when we first started. Thank you Gree, I'm enjoying the billions I've banked.

BTW all you people crying will be doing the same thing when all the RP they've been giving out finally means something and you spent them all on a stupid grenade.

asterisks
02-20-2014, 07:06 PM
Has anyone tried or able to build more than 2? Or this is limited to 2; just like Money building?

caL.Leo
02-20-2014, 07:28 PM
Has anyone tried or able to build more than 2? Or this is limited to 2; just like Money building?

Just 2... I started my 2nd today and it is no longer showing in the def building menu.

Alex cc mw
02-21-2014, 12:17 AM
Does anyone know the stats for each level? I know 1 is 10k, 2 20k, 3 35k

redriise
02-21-2014, 12:56 AM
Might make up for the 30-40mil we rob off them old timers!!

surfinguy369
02-21-2014, 01:46 AM
You guys with high iph cry too damn much. STFU! The game is called Crime City for a reason. If you don't like the game play then I suggest you go find something else better to do.

change_camp_hope
02-21-2014, 06:01 AM
anyone got any idea of full upgrade costs like a spreadsheet i would find that more helpful than the whining. I bought 2 and my iph isnt crazy high but my stats are so with new rival list i can rob 500 million a day if i push hard. I needto know how much i need to rob can someone do a sheet please.

dribblin todger
02-21-2014, 06:02 AM
If you buy two does that give you 2 x loot items per upgrade?

Love and War
02-21-2014, 06:42 AM
I was one of those players who didnt really care about income and concentrated on stats until I saw these ltbs that I couldn't afford! Right now my iph is 68k and I'm constantly upgrading my buildings. Players need to stop complaining every minute about expensive buildings let it be an inspiration to up your game and raise iph! If there weren't no challenges this game would be as boring as hell. I'm not keen on a defense building as I'm concentrating on iph but by the next one that comes I will be able to afford it!

gREeALIST
02-21-2014, 07:01 AM
You guys with high iph cry too damn much. STFU! The game is called Crime City for a reason. If you don't like the game play then I suggest you go find something else better to do.
Hush, little boy! Take your surfboard outside; the adults are speaking. No n00bs at the adult table. You might be invited when you have something worth bragging about; in the meantime, take your ghetto beast backside back to your ghetto hood and celebrate your incompetence as a one-dimensional player.

tom73
02-21-2014, 07:09 AM
If you buy two does that give you 2 x loot items per upgrade? no ............

b-w
02-21-2014, 07:20 AM
yeah noobs..we're speaking about elder privilege and entitlements..princess complexes and such..how dare you step foot in my hood, i've been playing longer than you..That's right, i am a mobile device game legend..a superstar of sorts..i shouldn't have to collect on time! That is ridiculous. When you sit at the adult table then you better be ready to listen to a seemingly endless session of whining..You aren't ready for the river that we cry..

really? B**ch please..

gREeALIST
02-21-2014, 07:59 AM
yeah noobs..we're speaking about elder privilege and entitlements..princess complexes and such..how dare you step foot in my hood, i've been playing longer than you..That's right, i am a mobile device game legend..a superstar of sorts..i shouldn't have to collect on time! That is ridiculous. When you sit at the adult table then you better be ready to listen to a seemingly endless session of whining..You aren't ready for the river that we cry..

really? B**ch please..
Here's a tampon to soak up your tears; on second thought, here's a case.

Did I strike a nerve? I don't have entitlement issues because I earned my way there; I'm not the one pleading with GREE to make concessions, to make the game more accessible to the n00b players (like yourself) who think that the world is their oyster and should have access to everything. I'm not here to seek the adulation nor respect of anyone around here; I couldn't give a damn about either. I don't expect you to understand because you don't have the capacity to do so. Feel free to petition GREE with your suggestions and complaints (which will be roundly ignored anyway, but too naive and delusional to see otherwise). So you're capable of robbing 24/7? Congratulations: you understand one facet of the game and that's it. Here's a cookie for your troubles (because it was so hard to master in the first place :rolleyes: )

b-w
02-21-2014, 08:19 AM
I wasn't crying..

I'm working on my iph and have been since day 1. I never said i rob 24/7 but i do rob when i can. I upgrade another bldg. the minute one is done and i collect on time or i risk being robbed, which doesn't result in me coming on here to cry about it. I laugh and then rob them back repeatedly, and relentlessly. I don't like the new rivals list and i don't like this new bldg. I'll adapt though. I'm in a great syn (just missed 250) and i'm active. I try to use gold only for syn battles. I compete most of the boss events or come very close. I do the sltq and don't worry too much about the ltq's..

But you're right..

When i started i went to level 68 and i was 250k attk/def before i knew it..now i'm level 81 3mil attk/def. I'm still small potatoes but i like the game so ..I'm no threat to the older players as you can tell by my stats..get to your point please..

murf
02-21-2014, 08:33 AM
You guys with high iph cry too damn much. STFU! The game is called Crime City for a reason. If you don't like the game play then I suggest you go find something else better to do.

If you actually read what people write you would understand their complaints.... Under the old rules if you spent a small fortune in gold and didn't level up too fast you would be very strong vs your rivals and wouldn't have been able to be robbed by 99% of them (which was fair, since you spent a ton of gold to get stronger to defend yourself). Now, it doesn't matter if you are free player or have spent $1,000's in gold, everyone on your rivals list can rob you and their is nothing you can do about it, even spending thousands more won't help you defend your hood.

First, it's a big F U, to all those players who spent $1,000's in order to get stronger then their rivals, since in a single move Gree has undone all their efforts. And for that you have to understand their frustration. And second, it completely discourages spending gold to get stronger going forward because what's the point? you will just be matched against stronger players.




BTW, obviously, the second one I'm ok with, because I'd rather be a free player at this point anyway....

cooch
02-21-2014, 10:40 AM
If you actually read what people write you would understand their complaints.... Under the old rules if you spent a small fortune in gold and didn't level up too fast you would be very strong vs your rivals and wouldn't have been able to be robbed by 99% of them (which was fair, since you spent a ton of gold to get stronger to defend yourself). Now, it doesn't matter if you are free player or have spent $1,000's in gold, everyone on your rivals list can rob you and their is nothing you can do about it, even spending thousands more won't help you defend your hood.

First, it's a big F U, to all those players who spent $1,000's in order to get stronger then their rivals, since in a single move Gree has undone all their efforts. And for that you have to understand their frustration. And second, it completely discourages spending gold to get stronger going forward because what's the point? you will just be matched against stronger players.




BTW, obviously, the second one I'm ok with, because I'd rather be a free player at this point anyway....


what do you expect from Noobs? They got spoiled in with stat inflation and have no clue nor care about our past. Until our past becomes their future. LOL. Especially the freeloader noobs.

Myro
02-21-2014, 10:43 AM
I just wish we could have a way to compete in the ltb's that also allowed us to continue improving our hood at the same time. I would love to continue to level up my hood, but the ltb's *demand* attention and they are always running, so it really makes it hard to improve my existing hood.

How about a change to make the LTB buy/upgrade not count toward your limit of 1 upgrade at a time or 1 new build at a time?

gcfreem
02-21-2014, 10:54 AM
If you actually read what people write you would understand their complaints.... Under the old rules if you spent a small fortune in gold and didn't level up too fast you would be very strong vs your rivals and wouldn't have been able to be robbed by 99% of them (which was fair, since you spent a ton of gold to get stronger to defend yourself). Now, it doesn't matter if you are free player or have spent $1,000's in gold, everyone on your rivals list can rob you and their is nothing you can do about it, even spending thousands more won't help you defend your hood.

First, it's a big F U, to all those players who spent $1,000's in order to get stronger then their rivals, since in a single move Gree has undone all their efforts. And for that you have to understand their frustration. And second, it completely discourages spending gold to get stronger going forward because what's the point? you will just be matched against stronger players. .

^^^this^^^

b-w
02-21-2014, 11:13 AM
Awesome! :-) This ltb is the best one in a very long time. Nice stats on the loot plus a mod on it, then add the stats on the building.
Not to mention that its for thoose who can afford it and putted some time to invest on their iph and not for thoose who just slack around like minis and other scumbags in this game. Once again, Awesome!

Proud member of The Commission
This was the post that i thought didn't make sense..First of all..How is this helping you from scumbags? You will get more stats? Great..You get new scumbags and minis robbing you..This doesn't fix the issues with the rivals list and it doesn't make you safe. Slackers can just buy the bldg with real gold..How is this great? Explain. You think this fixes anything?

WASTE..
if you're worried about IPH then this is going to take up weeks of upgrades on buildings that make money..IMO..but i'm a n00b so there you go.

Mackie Messer
02-21-2014, 11:21 AM
If you actually read what people write you would understand their complaints.... Under the old rules if you spent a small fortune in gold and didn't level up too fast you would be very strong vs your rivals and wouldn't have been able to be robbed by 99% of them (which was fair, since you spent a ton of gold to get stronger to defend yourself). Now, it doesn't matter if you are free player or have spent $1,000's in gold, everyone on your rivals list can rob you and their is nothing you can do about it, even spending thousands more won't help you defend your hood.

First, it's a big F U, to all those players who spent $1,000's in order to get stronger then their rivals, since in a single move Gree has undone all their efforts. And for that you have to understand their frustration. And second, it completely discourages spending gold to get stronger going forward because what's the point? you will just be matched against stronger players.




BTW, obviously, the second one I'm ok with, because I'd rather be a free player at this point anyway....

I have to agree completely. It was pretty much a big FU on the part of Gree, but It was a great incentive for me to switch to free player. my stats no longer mean anything so I don't have to chase them with gold. Hell even the Stat inflation no longer means anything. Also with so many critical changes happening so regularly what incentive would I have to invest monetarily in the game?

These days I just kinda play and have fun. Got a good looking hood, a great syndicate, good IPH. Gree removed all my stress by completely removing any incentive I had to attempt to be competitive. I don't even mind when I get robbed anymore. Which ironically doesn't happen since the switched to the new RL...its bizarre. level 6 fine gem stores....just sit there for hours sometimes.

FlyMeMoon
02-21-2014, 02:39 PM
So, whats the latest thinking about this building? Pro/Cons?

Nighteg
02-21-2014, 02:43 PM
Rewards-wise, it's the best so far (accumulative). If this was a money building, it would have been the best LTB to date.

Gyration
02-22-2014, 12:29 AM
I can finally go back to upgrading my nightclubs without feeling like I'm missing good units.

Bala82
02-22-2014, 05:16 AM
can you build more than 2?

tom73
02-22-2014, 06:27 AM
can you build more than 2? it is an ltb. 2 will be it.

Orkanen
02-22-2014, 03:01 PM
[QUOTE=b-w;1210081]This was the post that i thought didn't make sense..First of all..How is this helping you from scumbags? You will get more stats? Great..You get new scumbags and minis robbing you..This doesn't fix the issues with the rivals list and it doesn't make you safe. Slackers can just buy the bldg with real gold..How is this great? Explain. You think this fixes anything?

WASTE..

I didnt said it was going to solve any problems, i just like the fact that it is expensive and that the loot is good.
Nothing more nothing less. keep it serious.

Proud member of The Commission

Jugdish
02-22-2014, 09:44 PM
This building, in various stages of upgrading, is not having any positive impact regarding people robbing me. In fact, I have lost 6 in a row, including a 2 mil less stat differential.

b-w
02-24-2014, 07:52 AM
roger that..all good

azgrunge
02-24-2014, 07:56 AM
I can upgrade this to a level 3 or I can build a second one by the time this is done at end of month. I don't think I can do both. Which would you guys recommend?

Hoeba
02-24-2014, 08:02 AM
Why would you wanna buy a second one, only good thing about this building is the prize with the 1%carattackmodifier. So i would say upgrade it

azgrunge
02-24-2014, 08:25 AM
Why would you wanna buy a second one, only good thing about this building is the prize with the 1%carattackmodifier. So i would say upgrade it

I'm a 1.7mil/2mil with 1 mil IPH player and being robbed by 2.5-3 mil/2.5-3mil players thanks to this new matchup system. I would think a 2nd building would help me increase def for later upgrades for protection in the future.

sister morphine
02-24-2014, 09:31 AM
I'm a 1.7mil/2mil with 1 mil IPH player and being robbed by 2.5-3 mil/2.5-3mil players thanks to this new matchup system. I would think a 2nd building would help me increase def for later upgrades for protection in the future.
Given the rate of stat inflation, and the very low defence of this building by comparison I would say run the one you have up to a higher level rather than buy a second if the choice is either/or. That way you get an extra car and modifier.

Unless Gree have something seriously big time for boosting the power of defence up their sleeve, that is. Sadly they're not telling us.

Alternatively, you could boost your income instead, so you can get further with the next LTB, or be able to afford to buy SLTQ weapons if your syndicate can't bash all the way through. Either is at present a better option.

b-w
02-24-2014, 10:46 AM
Upgrade is my vote for sure..

Why and how are some of the higher iph getting robbed by much lower iph? One of my main issues with the rivals list is that i can't find anyone in my list with substantially higher iph than mine. I don't understand. The rivals list has become sort of mirror of my character.

The Father
02-24-2014, 04:43 PM
Seems to me they've adjusted the matchup several times (5 by my estimate). Initially, I used to basically see a mirror of myself. However, now I see people as low as almost half my stats to people with almost double.

mistress sherry
02-25-2014, 04:22 AM
will pass on this .. sold all m defense builds long ago and rob all day long people loaded down with them.. so i cant see buying one it would be like going backwards for me.

Travers
02-26-2014, 05:32 PM
It is slightly amusing that the most expensive LTB ever is a defensive building