Knights & Dragons Trading

[The Hurricane]

Hello! Long time, no see, fellow knights! I've got some fantastic news and some interesting patch notes for you!!!


**COMING SOON!GUILD GIFTING! GIFT YOUR GUILD MATES WITH LEGENDARY REWARDS! COMING FEBRUARY 10!**


Guild gifting? I don't know if this will cost us money or anything, but this would let a lot of people (Or low levels) have better armors and there are so many ways they could take advantage of it.

Instead, GREE should implement a trading market. Where other players could buy other armors/materials from other players. Such as I wanted a old epic boss armor but I wasn't there for it so I can't fight it to get the materials from the summoning stone. So I could go into the trading/market and then search for a person selling the materials and/or the armor and buy the item for the price of the player that is selling the things I am looking for. They could sell for gold or gems, or both. GREE would need to keep a market price of every item so that people selling the items would not make wrong use of it such as selling it for a higher price than it's actual one, the new players that don't have experience of the game would use more money on the item than required. See, from this. GREE would make more money by the players that would buy gems/gold for items in the market, and we would get what we want. Gold or gems, or unique items such as guild war epics or new chest epics would be untradeable.

I just thought this would be a good thing to be implemented in the game, would keep players a bit more interested in the game as well. Arena would be a bit easier, and would help in guild wars. Thank you.

[busteroaf]

You expect to be able to search for the person selling the item? Makes it easier to find your alt.

You expect Gree to keep a market price to ensure people done over/undercharge? That is quite possibly the dumbest idea I've heard. It takes away the player bargaining element. When Gree sets epics to 5000 gems, enjoy *****ing when you can't sell that fancy epic to your alt. The only good thing out of it is that the market won't immediately crash when 50k people toss a blazeborne up for sale and the price drops down to 10 gems because no one wants to buy it. Then everyone's dreams of hitting it big from playing the market, come crashing down.

[Sarah 101]

The good question ,
is that system are for ever ?
or it will end in February 14 ?

To understand me well
See this topic
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81155-Short-Survey-We-d-Love-To-Have-Your-Feedback!

[Dark Prince]

You expect to be able to search for the person selling the item? Makes it easier to find your alt.

You expect Gree to keep a market price to ensure people done over/undercharge? That is quite possibly the dumbest idea I've heard. It takes away the player bargaining element. When Gree sets epics to 5000 gems, enjoy *****ing when you can't sell that fancy epic to your alt. The only good thing out of it is that the market won't immediately crash when 50k people toss a blazeborne up for sale and the price drops down to 10 gems because no one wants to buy it. Then everyone's dreams of hitting it big from playing the market, come crashing down.

Bust a bust

[bosskiller]

Trading could be abused just as much as gifting. You could trade an epic for a basic. End of story.

[EljayK]

Like Diablo III basically. The first day, some shield was being sold for $100 or more. By the end of a month, that shield sold for $5.

[firefly333]

I personally dont expect the gifting to be free...there will be a cost? gems? if reasonable Im still willing to pay a cost to gift.

[The Hurricane]

You expect to be able to search for the person selling the item? Makes it easier to find your alt.

You expect Gree to keep a market price to ensure people done over/undercharge? That is quite possibly the dumbest idea I've heard. It takes away the player bargaining element. When Gree sets epics to 5000 gems, enjoy *****ing when you can't sell that fancy epic to your alt. The only good thing out of it is that the market won't immediately crash when 50k people toss a blazeborne up for sale and the price drops down to 10 gems because no one wants to buy it. Then everyone's dreams of hitting it big from playing the market, come crashing down.

No, I want them to be able to search the item. Not be able to see the seller's name would fix it, since there are thousands of players on this game I'm sure a bit of the thousands selling the item you are looking for wouldn't let you recognize your alt.

Actually that's what I want, people unable to buy for their alts. That would be so unfair. And if they don't add a market price, a guy could just give a level 1, 6 epics and make him undestructable for his level. Epics wouldn't be 5000 gems, there would be thousands of players on the market, GREE would make so much just keeping the price 900-1300 gems. I agree, but that's the fun about a market. We lose some, we win some. Profit and loss.

[The Hurricane]

Trading could be abused just as much as gifting. You could trade an epic for a basic. End of story.

No, I'm talking about a trading MARKET, a person could sell an item for GOLD or GEMS or BOTH. The minimum price of selling items could be 100-500,000 gold, 30-50 gems so that people won't be able to trade with their alts or low level friends.

[The Hurricane]

Like Diablo III basically. The first day, some shield was being sold for $100 or more. By the end of a month, that shield sold for $5.

Who would wait that long enough? There are THOUSANDS of spenders and MILLIONS of players in this game. Would you think they would let something go like that? Massive use of VPNs for some days would get them that item. Or, once you confirm a selling transaction it would be permanent so you couldn't cancel a 100$ to 5$. Unless there would be a offer time limit, if someone doesn't buy that particular item, it would disappear from the market and come in the seller's armory after X days.

[The Hurricane]

The good question ,
is that system are for ever ?
or it will end in February 14 ?

To understand me well
See this topic
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81155-Short-Survey-We-d-Love-To-Have-Your-Feedback!

Sorry, I didn't quite understand you. You want me to give feedback to them about this?

[The Hurricane]

I personally dont expect the gifting to be free...there will be a cost? gems? if reasonable Im still willing to pay a cost to gift.

It's probably gonna cost, if not. A Lotta guild members are gonna get good items this week.

[The Hurricane]

And, doing this would also help a few in guild wars and arena, f2p could sell their armors for a few gems then use them in guild wars, arena etc. But doing this would also make GREE increase the needed gems to recharge our arena/guild war energy, so maybe implementing this could also help f2p. Any other comments or +1s or -1s?

[firefly333]

And, doing this would also help a few in guild wars and arena, f2p could sell their armors for a few gems then use them in guild wars, arena etc. But doing this would also make GREE increase the needed gems to recharge our arena/guild war energy, so maybe implementing this could also help f2p. Any other comments or +1s or -1s?

I meant GREE would charge us gems to do this. I dont see how someone else can pay us gems to trade? how would that work?

I think GREE will charge us gems to give or gift armors. I cant wait for details, but afraid it will not be what Im hoping for.

[busteroaf]

Like Diablo III basically. The first day, some shield was being sold for $100 or more. By the end of a month, that shield sold for $5.


Who would wait that long enough? There are THOUSANDS of spenders and MILLIONS of players in this game. Would you think they would let something go like that? Massive use of VPNs for some days would get them that item. Or, once you confirm a selling transaction it would be permanent so you couldn't cancel a 100$ to 5$. Unless there would be a offer time limit, if someone doesn't buy that particular item, it would disappear from the market and come in the seller's armory after X days.

The point he was making is that the market for items like that drops... quickly. At the beginning of the month, people were selling it for $100, but by the end of the month, people were selling it for $5 because the market was so saturated.


No, I want them to be able to search the item. Not be able to see the seller's name would fix it, since there are thousands of players on this game I'm sure a bit of the thousands selling the item you are looking for wouldn't let you recognize your alt.

Actually that's what I want, people unable to buy for their alts. That would be so unfair. And if they don't add a market price, a guy could just give a level 1, 6 epics and make him undestructable for his level. Epics wouldn't be 5000 gems, there would be thousands of players on the market, GREE would make so much just keeping the price 900-1300 gems. I agree, but that's the fun about a market. We lose some, we win some. Profit and loss.

People unable to buy for their alts? If its an open market, why wouldn't you be able to? And if Gree kept the price around 900-1300 gems... why do they give out Legendaries for chests when you buy 40? Use some basic reasoning skills. Or when they do the gemstravaganza things... have they given away a guaranteed epic for anything less than 5000 gems? didn't think so.


And, doing this would also help a few in guild wars and arena, f2p could sell their armors for a few gems then use them in guild wars, arena etc. But doing this would also make GREE increase the needed gems to recharge our arena/guild war energy, so maybe implementing this could also help f2p. Any other comments or +1s or -1s?

F2p could sell their extra armors for a few gems... (I'm assuming back to gree?) thus giving gree the reasoning to increase the needed gems for refills, since they are giving away more gems in the sale of armors... yet it is still going to help f2p? How? If it now costs MORE, you don't gain anything from the small increase from selling things since the prices are going to go up. You clearly don't understand your own arguments.

[busteroaf]

I meant GREE would charge us gems to do this. I dont see how someone else can pay us gems to trade? how would that work?

I think GREE will charge us gems to give or gift armors. I cant wait for details, but afraid it will not be what Im hoping for.

Many other games allow you to buy and sell with in-game currency. Many of the card based stamina/attack energy refill type games allow you to trade cards, AND the stamina/attack power refills that you can either buy, or earn through completing the quests or in-game stuff. Those same games also will often limit the amount of trades you can make in a specific amount of time, and in order to make more transactions, you have to buy "tickets" or "tokens" or whatever you want to call them to USE the auction house/market. For this game, you'd simply just use gems. Its not a hard concept to grasp. Someone lists an item and says they want 1000 gems for the item, the auction house/market holds the item until the transaction is complete. As far as them taking a cut off the top, they would charge you a fee to list the item, anywhere from 1-100 gems, for example. Higher rarity armors being higher priced.

[firefly333]

Many other games allow you to buy and sell with in-game currency. Many of the card based stamina/attack energy refill type games allow you to trade cards, AND the stamina/attack power refills that you can either buy, or earn through completing the quests or in-game stuff. Those same games also will often limit the amount of trades you can make in a specific amount of time, and in order to make more transactions, you have to buy "tickets" or "tokens" or whatever you want to call them to USE the auction house/market. For this game, you'd simply just use gems. Its not a hard concept to grasp. Someone lists an item and says they want 1000 gems for the item, the auction house/market holds the item until the transaction is complete. As far as them taking a cut off the top, they would charge you a fee to list the item, anywhere from 1-100 gems, for example. Higher rarity armors being higher priced.

for a friend on line ....kinda brutal to say as if I cant grasp it.

Remember we dont know how Gree will do it...could we pay gems to each other, in my opinion, gree wouldnt do that amount of programming, too lazy.

Doesnt mean I dont grasp how this could happen. hey I thought we were friends, no attacking ...

No one knows who is saying ...so at this point its everyone's best guess what this will actually be.

[busteroaf]

for a friend on line ....kinda brutal to say as if I cant grasp it.

Remember we dont know how Gree will do it...could we pay gems to each other, in my opinion, gree wouldnt do that amount of programming, too lazy.

Doesnt mean I dont grasp how this could happen. hey I thought we were friends, no attacking ...

No one knows who is saying ...so at this point its everyone's best guess what this will actually be.

The amount of programming between being able to magically trade armors, likely isn't too different than taking gems from one account to another.

It wasn't an attack, just saying. Go play some other games where you can trade and you'll see plenty of options, though they all revolve around the same thing. And its few and far between that I've ever seen a game allow you to "sell" anything back to them for the in-game currency. If anything, Gree would go the route of giving gold back, not gems.

[firefly333]

The amount of programming between being able to magically trade armors, likely isn't too different than taking gems from one account to another.

It wasn't an attack, just saying. Go play some other games where you can trade and you'll see plenty of options, though they all revolve around the same thing. And its few and far between that I've ever seen a game allow you to "sell" anything back to them for the in-game currency. If anything, Gree would go the route of giving gold back, not gems.

The fact is it says you can GIFT armors...just doesnt sound like GREE is doing all that programming to be able to sell armors and pay someone else. I never said its not possible, just dont think probable or GREE would not use the word GIFT.

Come on Monday, hope its good.

[Sent]

The fact is it says you can GIFT armors...just doesnt sound like GREE is doing all that programming to be able to sell armors and pay someone else. I never said its not possible, just dont think probable or GREE would not use the word GIFT.

Come on Monday, hope its good.
It says gift LEGENDARY REWARDS
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW REWARDS IS DEFINED
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LEGENDARY IS DEFINED
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE IS

You're arguing for an update that hasn't happened yet and might not happen the way you think it's going to.

[firefly333]

It says gift LEGENDARY REWARDS
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW REWARDS IS DEFINED
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LEGENDARY IS DEFINED
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE IS

You're arguing for an update that hasn't happened yet and might not happen the way you think it's going to.

Im not arguing...anything except says GIFT not sell.

Seems like you are always up for a fight though. lol. Buster and I talk on line and its all good, np there. Im telling him not to quit, he is quit bored.

Where do you see anything saying I know what it will be ..other than I said to buster it says GIFT not sell, so I said more than likely a marketplace is not part of this update. my opinion. lol @ sent. you are kinda funny.

[Sent]

Im not arguing...anything except says GIFT not sell.

Seems like you are always up for a fight though. lol. Buster and I talk on line and its all good, np there. Im telling him not to quit, he is quit bored.

Where do you see anything saying I know what it will be ..other than I said to buster it says GIFT not sell, so I said more than likely a marketplace is not part of this update. my opinion. lol @ sent. you are kinda funny.

I never said you know. I said you don't know.
You said you can gift armors.
>armors
Also, you don't know how any word GREE says is defined. Gift might mean sell in their dictionary.

EDIT: You were arguing.

[Ghost of the Eunuchorn]

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So much for giving armors to guildies. We will be able to buy them keys, if we're lucky lol

[Dianish]

If Gree actually make this ingame then its only in their own favor.

They might make health potions free for gifting though. Cause, who needs those?

[The Hurricane]

The point he was making is that the market for items like that drops... quickly. At the beginning of the month, people were selling it for $100, but by the end of the month, people were selling it for $5 because the market was so saturated.



People unable to buy for their alts? If its an open market, why wouldn't you be able to? And if Gree kept the price around 900-1300 gems... why do they give out Legendaries for chests when you buy 40? Use some basic reasoning skills. Or when they do the gemstravaganza things... have they given away a guaranteed epic for anything less than 5000 gems? didn't think so.



F2p could sell their extra armors for a few gems... (I'm assuming back to gree?) thus giving gree the reasoning to increase the needed gems for refills, since they are giving away more gems in the sale of armors... yet it is still going to help f2p? How? If it now costs MORE, you don't gain anything from the small increase from selling things since the prices are going to go up. You clearly don't understand your own arguments.

Again. A fun of a market. It's a game of in game money.

I never said it was an open market. They give our legendaries when you buy 40 chests because it's like a thanks or encouragement to open the 40 chests. The legendaries aren't good anyways. They keep a gemstravaganza event because it's like a side event for getting epics while you spend for other things like guild wars, arena, etc. If you want, they could add the price for epics higher, though anything above 1500 is still a lot. Though remember, I said gold AND gems. So people could also sell for gold as well, but that would be most unlikely. They would have to increase the price of opening chests as well if we do this as well, though.

See, there are hundreds of thousands spending gems on guild war energy, arena, chests etc. Even if they make the needed gems to refill GW energy to 50 from 10 and 20 from 5 for 5 or more energy.. It would be so good for GREE. Legendaries would still be a couple hundred gems so if a F2P just sells a good legendary armor they got they could make enough for refills. If I could show you my way of seeing things you would see how this would help F2P and GREE. Spending players would be the same that they are. There would be hundreds of thousands wanting to buy epics, legendaries, and so. Thousands selling them. So it would be a good way of making in game currency.

[The Hurricane]

If Gree actually make this ingame then its only in their own favor.

They might make health potions free for gifting though. Cause, who needs those?

Low level guild members that need to level.

[akindfoe]

we can trade for things so cool thks gree

[The Hurricane]

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So much for giving armors to guildies. We will be able to buy them keys, if we're lucky lol

What the heck, Elita said we would be able to gift LEGENDARY items, armors to guild members, are we able to gift all types of things? Well, who am I asking, you don't know just like me. I just want the market. None of this guild member gifting shizzle.

[The Hurricane]

we can trade for things so cool thks gree

No, they never said we were going to be able to trade for things. This is a topic suggesting for that, a market. Elita, said that GUILD GIFTING was going to be possible. Not trading, alright? Don't get the wrong idea, you'll rage hard later.

[Sarah 101]

No , they "Gree" want to see if your (girl/boyfriend ) play and are you going to buy them a gift ...that the idea from that topic

[The Hurricane]

.-. No... Its about gifting your guild members, seriously. Girlfriend and boyfriend gifting, lol. It's free.

[Bluntman]

What the heck, Elita said we would be able to gift LEGENDARY items, armors to guild members, are we able to gift all types of things? Well, who am I asking, you don't know just like me. I just want the market. None of this guild member gifting shizzle.

Legendary items does not mean legendary armor. For all we know legendary items could be anything.

[Bluntman]

No, they never said we were going to be able to trade for things. This is a topic suggesting for that, a market. Elita, said that GUILD GIFTING was going to be possible. Not trading, alright? Don't get the wrong idea, you'll rage hard later.

Yes please take the 12 responses he has had to this thread as raging hard.

[Sarah 101]

.-. No... Its about gifting your guild members, seriously. Girlfriend and boyfriend gifting, lol. It's free.
You have no idea what I am talking about ^-^
Forgive me , I shall pass this topic :)

[busteroaf]

Yes please take the 12 responses he has had to this thread as raging hard.

Maybe not raging, but it's getting there.

There won't ever be a market where you can sell things for gems. Get that out if your head.

And the gift giving, did Elita specifically say you could gift armors? Please, find it, and tell us exactly what she meant.

[EljayK]

What the heck, Elita said we would be able to gift LEGENDARY items, armors to guild members, are we able to gift all types of things? Well, who am I asking, you don't know just like me. I just want the market. None of this guild member gifting shizzle.

You really don't have the ability to assess information and interpret it at all, do you? This is about the 7th time I've seen a response from you, where the point went WAAAY over your head.


In regards to Eunny's SS of the in-game guild gift, notice it says, "A CHANCE to get things for your guildies." It doesn't at all say it's guaranteed. New assessment: When you buy a gem pack, there's a chance your guild can collect a silver key.

Man this company is terrible at this.

[Meek milly]

You sound stupid mate gifting is a great idea and be glad gree even went that far

[furyp]

stop day dreaming kids. This will never happen, period.

[Dianish]

Low level guild members that need to level.

I didnt need them. Mostly i forgot i had them. The 100hp isnt worth much unless you farm where your HP lasts forever. Otherwise 1 potion is like 2-3 hits so they arent that usefull

Either way: I doubt this will be any good. I still hold my money on its only in Gree's own favor.

[The Hurricane]

Legendary items does not mean legendary armor. For all we know legendary items could be anything.

"Where specially marked package have the chance to gift your guild members with gifts!" Marked package? So, they want us to buy a gem package to gift our guild members with free rewards? Free to them, not to us then.

It said legendary rewards by the way, not items. :P

[The Hurricane]

You really don't have the ability to assess information and interpret it at all, do you? This is about the 7th time I've seen a response from you, where the point went WAAAY over your head.


In regards to Eunny's SS of the in-game guild gift, notice it says, "A CHANCE to get things for your guildies." It doesn't at all say it's guaranteed. New assessment: When you buy a gem pack, there's a chance your guild can collect a silver key.

Man this company is terrible at this.

No, I don't have the ability to access information and all. I'm following what Elita said. And I'm just trying to show the way I see by implementing a market. Anyways, its just a suggestion.

Though, it said. Guild gifts give a chance to help each other more! A chance to HELP. Not a chance that we might be able to get things for our guild members. And it also said "Where specially marked package have the chance to gift your guild members with gifts!" Possibility that we may have to buy a gem package to be able to gift our guild members, and it's a chance.

[The Hurricane]

I didnt need them. Mostly i forgot i had them. The 100hp isnt worth much unless you farm where your HP lasts forever. Otherwise 1 potion is like 2-3 hits so they arent that usefull

Either way: I doubt this will be any good. I still hold my money on its only in Gree's own favor.

Some people can't wait for their HP to regenerate to start training again, so they waste health potions.

[busteroaf]

What the heck, Elita said we would be able to gift LEGENDARY items, armors to guild members, are we able to gift all types of things? Well, who am I asking, you don't know just like me. I just want the market. None of this guild member gifting shizzle.

No, she didn't. She said this:


Hello! The iOS patch notes are here!


**COMING SOON!GUILD GIFTING! GIFT YOUR GUILD MATES WITH LEGENDARY REWARDS! COMING FEBRUARY 10!**



Legendary Rewards. Rewards was never defined to anything. Never said items, armors, anything.

Also, how is a thread titled Knights and Dragons trading have any relevance to the upcoming "gifting" that will be added? Or your market idea? That still dumbfounds me.


No, I don't have the ability to access information and all. I'm following what Elita said. And I'm just trying to show the way I see by implementing a market. Anyways, its just a suggestion.

Though, it said. Guild gifts give a chance to help each other more! A chance to HELP. Not a chance that we might be able to get things for our guild members. And it also said "Where specially marked package have the chance to gift your guild members with gifts!" Possibility that we may have to buy a gem package to be able to gift our guild members, and it's a chance.

Apparently you can't ASSESS information. You simply don't make sense. And until this gifting thing happens, you won't know. So stop speculating and just let it happen.

And get your marketplace idea out of your head.

[The Hurricane]

Maybe not raging, but it's getting there.

There won't ever be a market where you can sell things for gems. Get that out if your head.

And the gift giving, did Elita specifically say you could gift armors? Please, find it, and tell us exactly what she meant.

I am not raging, you now, the thing I dislike about this forum is that if you use a bit more posts to show your way or explain something that other people won't get from your point of view, it's taken as raging.

I never said there would be a market, this is just a suggestion. A suggestion that GREE might take into thinking.

No, Elita said we could gift legendary rewards. And from Eun's post you see that GREE is telling us to look in the shop for a specially marked package that might give us a CHANCE to be able to gift our guild members.

[The Hurricane]

You sound stupid mate gifting is a great idea and be glad gree even went that far

Remember what I said from sun's post and what Elita said? We might be having to buy a gem package to be able to get a chance to be able to gift our guild members.

[The Hurricane]

stop day dreaming kids. This will never happen, period.

Again, never said it would happen. It's a suggestion that might be taken into thinking by GREE.

[Ethanie]

No, I'm talking about a trading MARKET, a person could sell an item for GOLD or GEMS or BOTH. The minimum price of selling items could be 100-500,000 gold, 30-50 gems so that people won't be able to trade with their alts or low level friends.

The alt would just take longer to, not unable.

[Jagerr94]

usually when gree says legendary rewards, it means the max reward is going to be a legendary+ armour.

[Dianish]

Some people can't wait for their HP to regenerate to start training again, so they waste health potions.

Really? I didnt know that.



...../facepalm

[Dark Prince]

Or they could add a useful update

[Bshappell]

Hasn't even came out yet and already complaining lmao!!!!!!!!

[The Hurricane]

Hasn't even came out yet and already complaining lmao!!!!!!!!

No, not complaining. Suggesting what could be added instead of it. Better thing.

[Bluntman]

I am not raging, you now, the thing I dislike about this forum is that if you use a bit more posts to show your way or explain something that other people won't get from your point of view, it's taken as raging.

Using multiple posts to get your point across is one thing. You have posted like 20 comments on your own thread. At this point you aren't getting any point across, you look like an idiot. Second of all your thread is supposed to be about armor trading. There will be NO armor trading /thread

[Oliver Queen]

No, not complaining. Suggesting what could be added instead of it. Better thing.

You are also only posting because you want to become a senior member,right?

[ZERO_07]

Why is this thread still open? We all got trolled thinking "Gifting" was gonna be something else and not this joke event

[Dianish]

Why is this thread still open? We all got trolled thinking "Gifting" was gonna be something else and not this joke event


It was expected.