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AZZ.
01-27-2014, 05:34 PM
New rivals list is out and sucks. Good IPH player beware!!

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 05:36 PM
I have a good IPH & this is one of the best improvements to CC I've seen in a while. What are you smoking?

Danny Clear
01-27-2014, 05:37 PM
I think its awesome brings the fun back 2 robbing lvl 250's watch out haha. GET UR STATS UP GUY

murf
01-27-2014, 05:41 PM
I think its awesome brings the fun back 2 robbing lvl 250's watch out haha. GET UR STATS UP GUY

Haha. That's the major flaw. Stats don't matter anymore because you are matched against players with the same stats as you. Spend gold to get stronger, your reward, stronger opponents on your rivals list. There is now no way of getting stronger vs your competition.

MsTink0514
01-27-2014, 05:44 PM
Is the list changed by stats, or iph level?

Rodney26
01-27-2014, 05:46 PM
Both but it seems more based on stats then iph if you ask me

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 05:47 PM
I've seen a wide range of stats.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81502-Thanks-for-the-new-rivals-list!&p=1174441&posted=1#post1174441

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 05:47 PM
Haha. That's the major flaw. Stats don't matter anymore because you are matched against players with the same stats as you. Spend gold to get stronger, your reward, stronger opponents on your rivals list. There is now no way of getting stronger vs your competition.

When you say "competition" are you referring to players who are the same level as you? You are L.250 if I'm not mistaken & were in the shark tank anyways. I see no valid complaint here considering that you were always vulnerable.

AZZ.
01-27-2014, 05:49 PM
Haha. That's the major flaw. Stats don't matter anymore because you are matched against players with the same stats as you. Spend gold to get stronger, your reward, stronger opponents on your rivals list. There is now no way of getting stronger vs your competition.
Murf is correct. I am about to leave all my builds robbed and just rob you fools to make my money.

murf
01-27-2014, 05:54 PM
When you say "competition" are you referring to players who are the same level as you? You are L.250 if I'm not mistaken & were in the shark tank anyways. I see no valid complaint here considering that you were always vulnerable.

Yes, but with 10m stats I was stronger then 80-90% of my rivals list. And maybe untouchable to 50% of it. Now I'm vulnerable to 100% of my rivals list.

The one thing you haven't answered and is the much bigger question
is why am I going to spend gold during the next event? Since raising my stats is 100% meaningless now.

passerby
01-27-2014, 05:55 PM
When you say "competition" are you referring to players who are the same level as you? You are L.250 if I'm not mistaken & were in the shark tank anyways. I see no valid complaint here considering that you were always vulnerable.

You are not very intelligent.

If you can never grow stronger than the people on your rivals list, then there is no point in growing stronger. You will never have an advantage over your rivals. So why spend money?

Answer that.

SuzieCC
01-27-2014, 05:57 PM
Agreed.. There is no way to get stronger than your rivals list if you will just be matched with those stats instead. Not great at all....

murf
01-27-2014, 05:57 PM
I've seen a wide range of stats.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81502-Thanks-for-the-new-rivals-list!&p=1174441&posted=1#post1174441

Not my experience. I just visited another couple dozen hoods. All on the 8m-12m range still. IPH has been 5m+. So IPH is def a big factor too. Although haven't visited anyone with higher IPH then myself yet.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 06:02 PM
I replied in your own thread that's regarding this subject

Cobra Shuttle
01-27-2014, 06:05 PM
Yes, but with 10m stats I was stronger then 80-90% of my rivals list. And maybe untouchable to 50% of it. Now I'm vulnerable to 100% of my rivals list.

The one thing you haven't answered and is the much bigger question
is why am I going to spend gold during the next event? Since raising my stats is 100% meaningless now.

This, so hard. Perfectly explains how the game is ruined because of this change.

daddy99
01-27-2014, 06:11 PM
Gree has essentially just made it pointless to have strong stats for your level. There is no incentive now for me, at level 134, to stay with my top 10 team. I will get stronger yes, but my rivals list will too. I guess I will join a top 100 team and save gold. Oh, and Raid Boss/LTQ/Building upgrades, there is zero incentive to use gold. There is now no purpose whatsoever to increase your stats.

passerby
01-27-2014, 06:17 PM
I replied in your own thread that's regarding this subject

Feel free to answer the question that I posed to you in this thread, then.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 06:21 PM
Feel free to answer the question that I posed to you in this thread, then.

Ya sure, anything for you, princess... lol

Zendfrim
01-27-2014, 06:22 PM
I have a good IPH & this is one of the best improvements to CC I've seen in a while. What are you smoking?Don, I've avoided confronting you about this but you yourself are obviously on Gree's special crack smoking list or something. Lately you've been lodged so far up Gree's ass, I can't see where you end and they all begin. This change to the rivals list ruins the game for a significant portion of the population, a lot of which are power spenders. I don't know whether gree has bought your vote or what, but you need to cut that crap out. This is not a good change and it makes getting good stats a worthless pursuit. That's the road to loss of players. Vast amounts of players.

passerby
01-27-2014, 06:35 PM
Ya sure, anything for you, princess... lol

That's right. You cannot come up with a logical response. Yet you continue to defend the rivals list change. This shows that you are either A) dumb as **** or B) trolling. I would go with A, because I genuinely think you are slow.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 06:38 PM
That's right. You cannot come up with a logical response. Yet you continue to defend the rivals list change. This shows that you are either A) dumb as **** or B) trolling. I would go with A, because I genuinely think you are slow.

Hey, dikweed. I answered it elsewhere. Go find it, ya bum

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 06:40 PM
Don, I've avoided confronting you about this but you yourself are obviously on Gree's special crack smoking list or something. Lately you've been lodged so far up Gree's ass, I can't see where you end and they all begin. This change to the rivals list ruins the game for a significant portion of the population, a lot of which are power spenders. I don't know whether gree has bought your vote or what, but you need to cut that crap out. This is not a good change and it makes getting good stats a worthless pursuit. That's the road to loss of players. Vast amounts of players.

Pardon me for actually liking this change..

No I dont do drugs. No I'm not being paid. If you want to pay me to hop on the hate-train, I will.

passerby
01-27-2014, 06:41 PM
Hey, dikweed. I answered it elsewhere. Go find it, ya bum

No. I don't think I'll do that. You didn't obviously didn't answer anything, as there is no logical response to my question which would justify the future expenditure of gold.

Once again. You can no longer grow stronger than your rivals. Stats now mean nothing. So what is the incentive for someone to spend money on this game, seeing as they cannot grow stronger nor gain an advantage over their rivals?

You'll dodge the question again, because you have no answer.

passerby
01-27-2014, 06:42 PM
Hey, dikweed. I answered it elsewhere. Go find it, ya bum

No. I don't think I'll do that. You obviously didn't answer anything, as there is no logical response to my question which would justify the future expenditure of gold.

Once again. You can no longer grow stronger than your rivals. Stats now mean nothing. So what is the incentive for someone to spend money on this game, seeing as they cannot grow stronger nor gain an advantage over their rivals?

You'll dodge the question again, because you have no answer.

Racr-X
01-27-2014, 06:43 PM
This is not the matching system we were all promised. We were told it would take IPH into consideration. It absolutely does not. I have been through list after list checking the rivals on all three of my accounts. So far I have yet to find anyone with more than 25% of my IPH, and most are more like 10-15%.

So here is the deal with this new matching system. For those who refuse to put the time into building/upgrading this new FUBAR matching system is a paradise. For those of us who do put the effort into building our IPH we are screwed!

I do not have a problem in general with this update. The one major flaw is that, as promised, IPH must play a much bigger roll. Otherwise this is one sided in favor of the lazy players.

This is socialism at its best! Make everyone equal strength. At first you will have those trying to excel and those who will slack off and choose to be supported by those who are trying to excel. Those that choose to excel financially will eventually get tired of supporting the slackers. They will finally have no reason to excel anymore because their wealth is constantly being redistributed to those who choose to slack off with no return on their hard work. The slackers know they will be supported by the others who are actually trying to advance financially so there is never a reason for them to better themselves. Eventually no one is trying to advance and the whole thing implodes.

If this is going to stick please put far more weight on IPH.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 06:44 PM
What was the incentive to spend to begin with???

NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SPENT, THERE WERE STILL STRONGER PLAYERS THAN YOU.

passerby
01-27-2014, 06:49 PM
What was the incentive to spend to begin with???

NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SPENT, THERE WERE STILL STRONGER PLAYERS THAN YOU.

Nope. Spending money allowed you to be stronger than over 95% of your rival list, if you were in a good syndicate and participated in events. This allowed you to defend your hood and, well, to simply be stronger than rivals of your same level, due to you putting in the time, effort and money in order to grow your stats.

Now, there is no point in growing stronger, as everyone on your rivals list can hit you.

You dodged my question again. Each time you do it, it makes you look that much worse. Like I said in the very first line of my first response to you: You are not very intelligent. Every one of your follow-up posts has further cemented this fact.

Zendfrim
01-27-2014, 06:51 PM
This is not the matching system we were all promised. We were told it would take IPH into consideration. It absolutely does not. I have been through list after list checking the rivals on all three of my accounts. So far I have yet to find anyone with more than 25% of my IPH, and most are more like 10-15%.

So here is the deal with this new matching system. For those who refuse to put the time into building/upgrading this new FUBAR matching system is a paradise. For those of us who do put the effort into building our IPH we are screwed!

I do not have a problem in general with this update. The one major flaw is that, as promised, IPH must play a much bigger roll. Otherwise this is one sided in favor of the lazy players.

This is socialism at its best! Make everyone equal strength. At first you will have those trying to excel and those who will slack off and choose to be supported by those who are trying to excel. Those that choose to excel financially will eventually get tired of supporting the slackers. They will finally have no reason to excel anymore because their wealth is constantly being redistributed to those who choose to slack off with no return on their hard work. The slackers know they will be supported by the others who are actually trying to advance financially so there is never a reason for them to better themselves. Eventually no one is trying to advance and the whole thing implodes.

If this is going to stick please put far more weight on IPH.i am going to quote this whole post so these developer people who OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT THE GAME SHOULD FUNCTION LIKE can see it twice. Maybe it'll sink in then.

HeavyD
01-27-2014, 06:52 PM
In a way maybe this is a blessing in disguise from Gree. The need to spend gold other than to help out in syndicate events is now gone. I have no reason to get stronger or grow my IPH. Especially with my mini, I can just leave my buildings robbed, never collect them and just rob others for money. I'll always be matched with comparable stats even if they are 25 levels higher. If I grow stats I'll still be matched with similar strengths so any advancement in stats is meaningless any more.

Thanks Gree you just saved me a good chunk of my gold expenditure

murf
01-27-2014, 06:52 PM
What was the incentive to spend to begin with???

NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SPENT, THERE WERE STILL STRONGER PLAYERS THAN YOU.

No kidding, but do you not see the difference between a 2m stats account and a 20m stats account????

One gets robbed and attacked more then the other one...I'll let you guess which one.

And how did that account get from 2m to 20m? Spending gold....

And now that 20m stat account is just an average account versus his competition, how do you think that player feels after he spent thousands of dollars to make himself very, very strong and Gree just reset his account to average? Do you think he's going to spend more money to improve his stats to 30m?

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 06:54 PM
No kidding, but do you not see the difference between a 2m stats account and a 20m stats account????

One gets robbed and attacked more then the other one...I'll let you guess which one.

And how did that account get from 2m to 20m? Spending gold....

And now that 20m stat account is just an average account versus his competition, how do you think that player feels after he spent thousands of dollars to make himself very, very strong and Gree just reset his account to average? Do you think he's going to spend more money to improve his stats to 30m?
Don't speak for other people when your attack obviously isn't 30M

murf
01-27-2014, 07:01 PM
Don't speak for other people when your attack obviously isn't 30M

Are you guys really this dense? This simplest way to look at how things work incrementally is to see how things behave in the extremes and then extrapolate back. I used those #'s to prove a point.

I'll change it to:

No kidding, but do you not see the difference between a 1m stats account and a 10m stats account????

One gets robbed and attacked more then the other one...I'll let you guess which one.

And how did that account get from 1m to 10m? Spending gold....

And now that 10m stat account is just an average account versus his competition, how do you think that player feels after he spent hundreds of dollars to make himself strong and Gree just reset his account to average? Do you think he's going to spend more money to improve his stats to 15m?

Is that better?

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 07:03 PM
Are you guys really this dense? This simplest way to look at how things work incrementally is to see how things behave in the extremes and then extrapolate back. I used those #'s to prove a point.

I'll change it to:

No kidding, but do you not see the difference between a 1m stats account and a 10m stats account????

One gets robbed and attacked more then the other one...I'll let you guess which one.

And how did that account get from 1m to 10m? Spending gold....

And now that 10m stat account is just an average account versus his competition, how do you think that player feels after he spent hundreds of dollars to make himself strong and Gree just reset his account to average? Do you think he's going to spend more money to improve his stats to 15m?

Is that better?
Much better.

However the matchup based on stats isn't as close as you make it out to be.

Is it really that much fun to find someone with no chance of beating you to beat the tar out of?

Zendfrim
01-27-2014, 07:04 PM
His name is blowin smoke. I think that alone says it all.

passerby
01-27-2014, 07:05 PM
His name is blowin smoke. I think that alone says it all.

It's Captain Torgue trolling under one of his 78773820148727 accounts.

murf
01-27-2014, 07:07 PM
Much better.

However the matchup based on stats isn't as close as you make it out to be.

Is it really that much fun to find someone with no chance of beating you to beat the tar out of?

For me the playing field is currently +/- 20% of my stats....and I can find that playing field with 1m, 10m or 20m stats. Playing on some fields just costs more now.

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 07:08 PM
It's Captain Torgue trolling under one of his 78773820148727 accounts.
The fact that your saying I'm someone that I have never heard of, just shows how much time you spend lurking here.

passerby
01-27-2014, 07:09 PM
Much better.

However the matchup based on stats isn't as close as you make it out to be.

Is it really that much fun to find someone with no chance of beating you to beat the tar out of?

See, you are using a new troll angle. Now you are acting like this rivals list change benefits weaker players, as stronger players are now matched accordingly.

"Is it really that much fun to find someone with no chance of beating you to beat the tar out of?" - Yeah dude, that's exactly what people do. We find some ****ty hood with low stats and low IPH, then we just attack and rob that person's pizza parlors and arcades. Because we build our stats up in order to "beat the tar out of" scrubs when all we have to gain is experience and $0.

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 07:12 PM
See, you are using a new troll angle. Now you are acting like this rivals list change benefits weaker players, as stronger players are now matched accordingly.

"Is it really that much fun to find someone with no chance of beating you to beat the tar out of?" - Yeah dude, that's exactly what people do. We find some ****ty hood with low stats and low IPH, then we just attack and rob that person's pizza parlors and arcades. Because we build our stats up in order to "beat the tar out of" scrubs when all we have to gain is experience and $0.

You are spending too much time over thinking my posts.if you read them, it's obvious I've stated there's ups and downs for all players of all stats. Please stop trolling me lol

Green Drake
01-27-2014, 07:14 PM
So here is the deal with this new matching system. For those who refuse to put the time into building/upgrading this new FUBAR matching system is a paradise. For those of us who do put the effort into building our IPH we are screwed!

I do not have a problem in general with this update. The one major flaw is that, as promised, IPH must play a much bigger roll. Otherwise this is one sided in favor of the lazy players.
.

No offense but you should choose your words much better. I have played this game from both sides. Building up a very substantial iph for my levels and also being a serial robber. There is no doubt that being a successful robber takes far more effort and activity. You should try to rob the equivalent of your iph sometime. You might actually find that you find this game much more enjoyable. I do.

JimCC/MW
01-27-2014, 07:14 PM
Gree has essentially just made it pointless to have strong stats for your level. There is no incentive now for me, at level 134, to stay with my top 10 team. I will get stronger yes, but my rivals list will too. I guess I will join a top 100 team and save gold. Oh, and Raid Boss/LTQ/Building upgrades, there is zero incentive to use gold. There is now no purpose whatsoever to increase your stats.

I too was displeased by this change until I saw the light on this. I can now get out of the stat rat race and just play the things I enjoy most about the game. I will save money because I can do those things gold free since improving my stats now has little significance to me.

passerby
01-27-2014, 07:17 PM
You are spending too much time over thinking my posts.if you read them, it's obvious I've stated there's ups and downs for all players of all stats. Please stop trolling me lol

I think the admins of this forum should disable posting via Tor and make a real effort to clamp down on ****ty posters like you, Torgue. I'm saying they should block Tor, because you're obviously too unintelligent to manually setup a proxy in order to hide your IP while trolling.

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 07:20 PM
I think the admins of this forum should disable posting via Tor and make a real effort to clamp down on ****ty posters like you, Torgue. I'm saying they should block Tor, because you're obviously too unintelligent to manually setup a proxy in order to hide your IP while trolling.
And you know my IP, how?

Danny Clear
01-27-2014, 07:21 PM
Every one keeps saying this. I Dont understand why being stronger than your rivals list is such a big deal? U should just be worried about your stats and how u do in battle but this is the crime city forum so everyone will complain if gree gives out a vault to everyone cause it will "imbalance" the game, whats new.

passerby
01-27-2014, 07:22 PM
And you know my IP, how?

The admins and mods of this forum see your IP, Torgue. It's a shame that they are likely too dense to pay attention to your activities, though. You're on this forum trolling every single day for months. You need psychiatric help, in my opinion.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 07:24 PM
The admins and mods of this forum see your IP, Torgue. It's a shame that they are likely too dense to pay attention to your activities, though. You're on this forum trolling every single day for months. You need psychiatric help, in my opinion.

That means you're on here reading troll posts every single day. I'd say that better qualifies you for psychiatric help.

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 07:25 PM
I don't understand how this passerby guy gets pleasure out of trolling me for saying I like an update. Whatever. Have fun bro

FastEddiee
01-27-2014, 07:31 PM
new rival list completely sucks. the old way was better. this blows. makes me want to stop playing.

TooFlyRobbie
01-27-2014, 07:50 PM
I don't understand how this passerby guy gets pleasure out of trolling me for saying I like an update. Whatever. Have fun bro

Hello Blowin, I too think its a good feature, but it actually hurts your stats and your pocket (depending), you can't chase stats or set stats goals because everytime you increase them you will see players/rivals with similar stats, they might have worse or better IPH, but you won't be able to get stronger unless you can be the strongest player in CC.

RealTeflonDon
01-27-2014, 07:55 PM
Everytime you increase them you will see players/rivals with similar stats, they might have worse or better IPH, but you won't be able to get stronger unless you can be the strongest player in CC.

Exactly, and that right should be reserved only for those top players who have truly spent a fortune. Not every joe who's dropped a few stacks on their hood.

Gingeasian
01-27-2014, 07:59 PM
Also no limit on how far up the levels you can see. I'm level 94 hitting some 250s right now

Blowin Smoke
01-27-2014, 08:00 PM
Hello Blowin, I too think its a good feature, but it actually hurts your stats and your pocket (depending), you can't chase stats or set stats goals because everytime you increase them you will see players/rivals with similar stats, they might have worse or better IPH, but you won't be able to get stronger unless you can be the strongest player in CC.
Can't argue with your statement as you have valid points.
I'm just one of those players that welcome new content, usually.

X BOSS
01-27-2014, 08:13 PM
How is this gonna attract new players, you aren't gonna get very far on the income of a barbershop?...how are lesser syns gonna save for bonuses?...how far is anyone gonna get upgrading an ltb if it's possible to afford one anyway?...any noob is gonna be bored rigid within a day or two..

ILikeTheAbuse
01-27-2014, 09:36 PM
The new rival list is pretty nice...

My 800k IPH L100 4mil atk account finally has some decent rivals to rob. This is the first time in months that I haven't had to search for 30 minutes to find someone worth robbing. I just robbed a couple hoods. 1.2mil atk with 600k IPH. 3mil atk with 400k IPH. 4.5mil atk with 900k IPH. 3.1mil atk with 1.8mil IPH. etc... fairly random within a decent range. My 24hr buildings got robbed earlier. My activity, for the first time in a long time, enabled me to rob back more than I lost. Yes, I know he has a garbage IPH, so...

My L79 with 5mil atk and 5mil IPH finally has some targets. This hasn't happened for the past few months. I haven't seen anyone over 3mil IPH in the last 20min of robbing, but I have seen enough 1mil and 2mil IPH rivals that they could rob me for every penny tomorrow and I'd still be ahead. They, between them all, can only rob each of my buildings once tomorrow, but I can rob all of their buildings today... I'm ahead of tomorrow's robberies for the first time in ages.
My L160 4mil atk 5mil IPH account is pretty much in the same boat.
My L246 5.6mil atk 5.4mil IPH account hasn't seen that much of a change. There were always LTBs to rob at that level... now it just takes me a little less time to find targets to make back what got robbed that day.

I like the new rivals list. If you don't like it, maybe try robbing some more? If you can easily rob $100mil in a day, why do you care how easy it is for people to rob you for $90mil? So that guy only had a single L2 NIS to rob. Go on. Take the money and run. There's no shortage of fish in the sea, now, if you have a half decent IPH. You WILL put a target on yourself. Who cares. This new system isn't good or bad. It's just different. It promotes actively robbing on a daily basis.

So, more people can rob you... collect on time, or rob people to make up for what you lost. That's the same advice I was given a couple years ago and it's just as true, now.

Lars
01-28-2014, 12:30 AM
I hate this new list. I now see some decent incomes (although I still saw a $0/h rival). However, none were nearly as high as mine. Most ranged from about 10% to 25% of my income. Fighting stats were 95% to 150% of mine.

Basically the list suffers from the same problems like the previous one: Completely eliminate any incentive to become stronger. Punish top iph players. People who are benefitting from the change are those with ****ty hoods and low stats. For new players, OK, this might be interesting. Long time players that carried the game all along and invested heavily into it are at disadvantage again (as they are already in the XP-is-bad game: more difficult tiers, lower points in war).

If you have a weak economy and think this is great, beware. If Gree continues with this list I doubt you will find many decent hoods after some time. Strong iph players will leave, sell their hood or simply not collect anymore. In the long run you can't hunt your iph 'whales' successfully if you completely destroy their living environment ...

Zippy69
01-28-2014, 01:29 AM
How is this gonna attract new players, you aren't gonna get very far on the income of a barbershop?...how are lesser syns gonna save for bonuses?...how far is anyone gonna get upgrading an ltb if it's possible to afford one anyway?...any noob is gonna be bored rigid within a day or two..

here, here...
very short sighted!

it's now like being in school playground with Bully, who can't pick on anyone his own size, dropping 20+ levels to pick on new kid...

However, weirdly enough... just reselected Rivals List and ALL Opponents were back at my Level or within 1...

have GREE gone back???

Or has my tablet gone back in time!!??

was just single occurrence, now back to new sh*te...

KlitschkO
01-28-2014, 04:51 AM
Is nice new rivals list.

PedroPimples
01-28-2014, 04:59 AM
Yes but you like the most boring boxer in heavyweight history. So point is invalid.

tushy
01-28-2014, 05:28 AM
Why should I rob a player when he can rob me back especially when he is way weaker than I am. With this new rival list every player which has been robbed can rob you back and win (maybe every second rob is successful but he can).
Yeah I can set timers, but I have a real life and it sucks to be in a meeting and the timer goes off to farm my NC's ;-)

With this new rival list the effect of the defense buildings should be higher. Now it makes no difference if you have some defense buildings or not.

Only an idea. If you protect one building with one or more defense buildings the money you earn by a successful rob is less (if you win) than if you have no defense buildings to protect. With this idea the defense buildings would become a factor in this game.
Or an other idea:
You can protect your hood with useable items like explosives. They only are used if a player tries to rob your hood.

Blowin Smoke
01-28-2014, 05:30 AM
I think the new defensive buildings are going to have something to do with the new rival list matchups. Just a thought

Dat Guy
01-28-2014, 07:13 AM
Also no limit on how far up the levels you can see. I'm level 94 hitting some 250s right now

I brought this up in another thread that has mysteriously disappeared, and I can't believe no one else has brought this up.
When you defeat someone with cash on hand, the formula was your level times 1000 minus 10000. Now it's your rivals level times 1000 minus 10000. So some level 94 could theoretically beat you out of 4.8 million. Your retaliation total would only be 1.6 million.
Yeah I know this is only in theory, and I can hear you saying bank your money.
It still feels like more punishment to higher level players.

Potatoe
01-28-2014, 07:57 AM
Under the new system improving my defensive stats actually hurts me.

If stats determine the quality of your rival list, and then defensive stats are cut in half, then improving mydefense causes me to face stronger rivals who I'm less able to defend against.

I'm also a low level, high stat player so I'm rarely a target in wars.

The net / net is that with these changes it actually hurts me to improve my defensive stats. Any items with high defense stats or defensive modifiers are now undesirable for me. Don't want them.

How silly is that.

Canoehead
01-28-2014, 08:20 AM
My observations as a high stat, high iph player are that I am still seeing very low and even 0 iph hoods out there and not seeing the other high iph hoods which I know exist. Worse yet I am basically seeing the same small group of rivals over and over, even with multiple refreshes. What I also noticed is that I am seeing lower level and weaker players from my main rival syndicates. I think the new approach needs work, as many of the things Greed rolls out prematurely.

Laelia
01-28-2014, 09:04 AM
Looks like I'm playing the same 25 players forever now.....17 of them are vastly more po werfull than I.......am already receiving coercive messages that I should move to their syndicate.......hate this change

PariaHOsT
01-28-2014, 09:18 AM
In game K2 CCR

I play this game to rob, its great enjoyment to Me just doing it. This new rivals search for Me personally does not work. I have refreshed it now over 50 times and the same 20 people turn up over and over, just is a rejigged/mixed up order. Tried it this morning, same 20 for an hour, tried it this afternoon, same again, just tried it several hours later, still the same issue. I have 4 accounts in CC. I hope you fix it, if you do not I will be gone and save Myself a small fortune in the process.

Babytway
01-28-2014, 09:37 AM
In game K2 CCR

I play this game to rob, its great enjoyment to Me just doing it. This new rivals search for Me personally does not work. I have refreshed it now over 50 times and the same 20 people turn up over and over, just is a rejigged/mixed up order. Tried it this morning, same 20 for an hour, tried it this afternoon, same again, just tried it several hours later, still the same issue. I have 4 accounts in CC. I hope you fix it, if you do not I will be gone and save Myself a small fortune in the process. i like this player.. butim not having the problems your having, working great for me

Rodney26
01-28-2014, 10:04 AM
It's the same 20 people over and over..all the people I used to rob don't even show anymore 👎

LongFingers
01-28-2014, 10:42 AM
I dont like this new rivals list
My hood sucks and I cant rob good hoods anymore
Time to build a laundromat to improve my IPH ?
Any tips ?

dribblin todger
01-28-2014, 10:56 AM
It sucks, the game is called Crime City not "love thy neighbour" the whingers and whiners with high IHP would do right to remember they started playing a game called Crime City on exactly the same footing as everyone else, they and they alone chose to go down the path of hood and IPH building at the expense of attack and defence stats, open up the game again to how it was.

Sammo the Kid
01-28-2014, 11:15 AM
I dont like this new rivals list
My hood sucks and I cant rob good hoods anymore
Time to build a laundromat to improve my IPH ?
Any tips ?

oh the schadenfreude LOL

PedroPimples
01-28-2014, 11:18 AM
It sucks, the game is called Crime City not "love thy neighbour" the whingers and whiners with high IHP would do right to remember they started playing a game called Crime City on exactly the same footing as everyone else, they and they alone chose to go down the path of hood and IPH building at the expense of attack and defence stats, open up the game again to how it was.

We chose to build a good iph and build strong stats to be at the top. We made ourselves that we was untouchable by 99% of our rivals. Then after 3 years of spending gold and playing, gree move the goalposts. The old bait and switch.
They've changed the basic parameters of the game after taking our money.
I have not gone in expense of attack and def stats, I hadn't lost in months. Now I'm facing people 80-100 levels above me. People who are not my rival, like me being a middleweight and having to face the heavyweights.

tushy
01-28-2014, 11:38 AM
It sucks, the game is called Crime City not "love thy neighbour" the whingers and whiners with high IHP would do right to remember they started playing a game called Crime City on exactly the same footing as everyone else, they and they alone chose to go down the path of hood and IPH building at the expense of attack and defence stats, open up the game again to how it was.

Yes and no.
With the new rival list the level is no more needed. My mini on lvl13 faces a guy with lvl 114.
With the right syndicate u can have a lvl 20 player faces a lvl 250 player. Is this right?

Is it okay that a guy with 6mill attack can rob a guy with 8mill defense? He wins maybe only every second rob but he wins excact the same amount of money as a guy which has 8mill attack and wins against someone with 6mill defense. Is this fair?
Why should I rob guys now? To get robbed back because everyone can beat me now on my list?
No thank you Gree...

I hope that the def. buildings become a factor in this game.
Another idea:
Just like in the battles you can build up a wall which a player has to destroy before he can rob your hood. Than the levels becomes interesting because at lvl 20 you havent the energy as you got on lvl 250.

triple OG
01-28-2014, 11:41 AM
The only good thing about the rival list, is that it exposed all the hackers. Level 1 players with 30mil attack. I hope Gree fixed this ish.