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Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:22 PM
Gree told us to fix the poor drop rate. I'd like to check that. Tell us your experience. How many did you gain? I just spent 3300 energie on 'Counter the Insurgents' and got: none. A teammate got at least two for 3000 energie...

Really fixed?

bruner
01-20-2014, 03:23 PM
3800.....got 1 folder. Gonna be a long event.....

CJ54
01-20-2014, 03:24 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

Schegma li
01-20-2014, 03:25 PM
4300 for 2 folders

Lance Link
01-20-2014, 03:30 PM
3200 zero folders

Inimical
01-20-2014, 03:31 PM
8000ish for 6

2000y2k
01-20-2014, 03:32 PM
You can always buy them with gold just not with the valor we keep getting and have no use for.

gb7
01-20-2014, 03:33 PM
2 with over 6000 energy.

Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:33 PM
3200 zero folders
don't worry. They fixed the thing not dropping at all. CJ just told us. Keep on trying. (Same to me)

Web323
01-20-2014, 03:33 PM
5000 and zero

gb7
01-20-2014, 03:34 PM
3 for 6000 energy

Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:36 PM
5000 and zero

No. No. It's fixed. They ARE dropping. Gree just confirmed...

andy2
01-20-2014, 03:37 PM
just spent 3500 energy 0 folders..... insanity

free play
01-20-2014, 03:41 PM
4 k energy and none

Eduard
01-20-2014, 03:42 PM
3300 and 1 folder

mwmaniac
01-20-2014, 03:42 PM
8,200 energy and 0... Didn't even realize it was an option to have them drop

Sgt mason
01-20-2014, 03:44 PM
7 with 1910 energy!!!!

Tranq
01-20-2014, 03:45 PM
4k+ and nada

Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:46 PM
CJ you are correct. It's confirmed. It is possible to get some....I have seen it myself. 49 faction members worked on Counter the Insurgents and we have 3 now. Just another day and we can summon a lvl5 boss (yeah, we can buy gold to summon some mors lvl5 bosses to reach higher levels and spent more gold)

it is still time to react BEFORE IT FAILS

GreenwichKid
01-20-2014, 03:46 PM
You can always buy them with gold just not with the valor we keep getting and have no use for.

I've used my 5 mill valour and want more, no idea what you mean by no use, if only you could give it me...

Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:47 PM
7 with 1910 energy!!!!

You must be joking. Who did you kill to get them?

Didas
01-20-2014, 03:49 PM
Classic drug dealer sales tactics. First raid boss is free. After you're hooked, you have to pay through the nose. 10 folders for 10 gold anyone?

Grim69
01-20-2014, 03:50 PM
Maybe they will give some out again. Ahh one can wish for such a thing.

Mr llama
01-20-2014, 03:52 PM
3000 and none dropped

Bobar
01-20-2014, 03:53 PM
Classic drug dealer sales tactics. First raid boss is free. After you're hooked, you have to pay through the nose. 10 folders for 10 gold anyone?
has been 2 gold for one uzi in crime city (which is similiar to intel folders in mw)last raid boss event if i am correct....

Degun07
01-20-2014, 03:55 PM
9000 energy and nothing what a ****ty joke.....hope GREE get it s....t pushed in.

Thumpr
01-20-2014, 03:58 PM
4000 energy. 3 accts. two folders. Yeah....this will be fun. If the rate doesn't improve, I am buying zero folders. No gold for you.

2000y2k
01-20-2014, 03:59 PM
I've used my 5 mill valour and want more, no idea what you mean by no use, if only you could give it me...

I mean I have 6 million valor and ranked commander. I know thank you thank you. And purchasing any valor unit does nothing to increase my attack or defense stats.

Sumiala
01-20-2014, 04:05 PM
don't worry. They fixed the thing not dropping at all. CJ just told us. Keep on trying. (Same to me)

Maybe they have learned to fly (away).
2000 energy and counting. Some people got one in my faction, so indeed, drop-rate is not equal to zero.

Mr Big C
01-20-2014, 04:18 PM
3500 energy 0 folders

Elite Enforcer
01-20-2014, 04:23 PM
4500 none received. Drop rate is not fixed.

bradleyk
01-20-2014, 04:27 PM
1500 energy and 3 folders. Playing on iPhone. What kind of device are you on that you are not getting any?

Mr llama
01-20-2014, 04:31 PM
1500 energy and 3 folders. Playing on iPhone. What kind of device are you on that you are not getting any?Ipad and ipod touch

Ysae Kaeps ASU
01-20-2014, 04:32 PM
This is just an MW recurring nightmare guys. You'll all wake up in a minute.

But really everyone take a breath. CJ said they fixed the 'THING'.

Apparently it was the 'THINGS' fault for no drops.

Now they are dropping - That's been confirmed here and I'm really encouraged at the report from the faction of 49 @ 3,000 energy each had 3 drop for a total of 147,000 energy. So they do drop....the THING is dead, now let's all be pleased.

Oceanz
01-20-2014, 04:37 PM
At this rate, the one Level 30 boss my faction summons is gonna be dead meat!

Elite Enforcer
01-20-2014, 04:45 PM
The drop rate won't improve until closer to the launch of the event. Less folders out there means more sales on gold for buying these folders. Business.

Cannibalpaul
01-20-2014, 04:51 PM
1 drop out of 3300k

Wolf78
01-20-2014, 04:53 PM
I use 2 devices. 5200 energies used no folders. 2200 used on second device only 1 folders. 44 members in my faction 5 total folders. Thanks for fixen the problem. Yeah right

camper killer
01-20-2014, 04:58 PM
3600 energy and not a 1 dropped.....nothing fixed..... other than this game.

pay pay pay your Gree masters.

Japan needs your cash.

CC1
01-20-2014, 05:16 PM
Maybe they will give some out again. Ahh one can wish for such a thing.

I've read through page 4 (post #39) at the time of this wirtting. I hope, based on the drop rates I've calculated, that there will be a large number of initial freebies like the first raid boss event. The drop rates I've caclulated are far, Far, FAR too extreme to be the only source of folders. I have complaints with Gree, but before we condemn them to eternal damnation, let's see how it plays out. If the only folders available come from the aforementioned drop rates, I'll be the fiirst on the bandwagon of damnation. I'll even dedicate some of my own business excess web space for expression if this one is shut down (and if anyone else has the technical skills to help). Note this message and PM me if folders are ONLY received through missions and not granted at event start.

DTA-HOG
01-20-2014, 05:21 PM
Guys a bar of gold a piece isn't asking too much. If everyone in your faction donates 200, that's plenty to finish. You are getting a million in stats. Why you whining about folder drop rates? As an added bonus, you aren't getting XP for raiding and doing missions just to collect folders.

Easy Echo
01-20-2014, 05:23 PM
3000 got 5 folders

CC1
01-20-2014, 05:36 PM
Guys a bar of gold a piece isn't asking too much. If everyone in your faction donates 200, that's plenty to finish. You are getting a million in stats. Why you whining about folder drop rates? As an added bonus, you aren't getting XP for raiding and doing missions just to collect folders.

Yeah, right. Nice try Gree. But, you can't change consumer behaviour with deception. You may bend it a little. But, those of us with experience know a business model that won't work when we see it. Hog, nice try.

davecity
01-20-2014, 05:48 PM
I spent 24,500 energy (across my various armies) and got just 4 folders. At this rate, our faction will last a good 30 minutes before we have to stop the raid boss event.

Deathship
01-20-2014, 05:49 PM
Guys a bar of gold a piece isn't asking too much. If everyone in your faction donates 200, that's plenty to finish. You are getting a million in stats. Why you whining about folder drop rates? As an added bonus, you aren't getting XP for raiding and doing missions just to collect folders.



so who is going to donate the 200 gold to each player?

Perilous
01-20-2014, 05:52 PM
3k for one...level 1 of the LTQ

LordIndy
01-20-2014, 05:53 PM
This has gone from a largely free game to a pay out your nose just to play the game. Pretty soon gold will be the only currency in the game.

good gawd noooo
01-20-2014, 06:03 PM
only 1 folder 6k energy

KSTrooper
01-20-2014, 06:09 PM
Not sure the energy but I got 10 doing normal mode on the ltq.

Gage of Hammerheads Heros
01-20-2014, 06:24 PM
4800 on 10/15 nothing

Hooligany
01-20-2014, 06:25 PM
Finished normal mode in LTQ, 0 drops for folders.

DTA-HOG
01-20-2014, 06:27 PM
Yeah, right. Nice try Gree. But, you can't change consumer behaviour with deception. You may bend it a little. But, those of us with experience know a business model that won't work when we see it. Hog, nice try.
Seriously bro... Do you expect a million in stats for free? This ain't angry birds. Where have you been the last few months? 200 gold for 200 folders to get you a million in stats is about the best deal you are gonna get around here.

easierlife
01-20-2014, 06:54 PM
Seriously bro... Do you expect a million in stats for free? This ain't angry birds. Where have you been the last few months? 200 gold for 200 folders to get you a million in stats is about the best deal you are gonna get around here.I don't think anyone does expect a million in stats for free. People are spending gold on this LTQ - so it's not free - and don't have 1 folder to show for it. What about the people who play for free?

We are not asking for 100% drop, but it is rediculous to spend over 8k energy and not get a single folder.

Kane Sickle
01-20-2014, 06:54 PM
4100 for 2, but I think those 2 have the intel I've been waiting for.
Oops, I guess the secret is out that ain't nobody getting close to 100 free folders; probably not even close to 50.
Maybe 20?
Will be a heck of a Raid Boss, because I ain't buying folders.

Lo.the.orge
01-20-2014, 07:07 PM
Can you get folders by raiding, or fights..? Anyway other than the current ltq..? Thanks...

hollywood42069
01-20-2014, 07:25 PM
3400 energy here and zero. in fact out of 38 members and all drained of energy only 5 have been found. Ya I would say it needs more work👎

Bob_55
01-20-2014, 07:31 PM
The drop are not Fixed CJ. Give everyone 100 folders like you did for the last Boss event.... The drop rate are ridiculous like you see in this thread.

Hakim
01-20-2014, 07:32 PM
4800 energy and zero folders

warrends
01-20-2014, 07:36 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

Seriously? This is your answer? Wow. Just wow. You're truly a great liaison to the playerbase.

Roscoe782
01-20-2014, 07:42 PM
Seriously? This is your answer? Wow. Just wow. You're truly a great liaison to the playerbase.

I was thinking the same thing. 3500 energy. No folders.

Jaebee
01-20-2014, 07:56 PM
CJ you are correct. It's confirmed. It is possible to get some....I have seen it myself. 49 faction members worked on Counter the Insurgents and we have 3 now. Just another day and we can summon a lvl5 boss (yeah, we can buy gold to summon some mors lvl5 bosses to reach higher levels and spent more gold)

it is still time to react BEFORE IT FAILS
Lol @ Just another day and we can summon a lv5 boss.

CJ, they were dropping before, in the same terrible rate...nothing has changed...sigh

SteveJobs
01-20-2014, 08:14 PM
I am at about 4500 energy on one account and 2500 on my other account. Both have yielded ZERO folders. GREE, you are taking the fun out of this game. I get you need to be GREEdy to stay in business and pad your pockets, but this is getting ridiculous.

BIG DH
01-20-2014, 08:21 PM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.

Azreiel
01-20-2014, 08:21 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

This is what you come up with lol. You should have just kept quiet , would have looked a lot smarter if u did.

Shrinko
01-20-2014, 08:22 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...
CJ, when will you learn to listen, analyze the situation and respond with a thought of how your response will be taken by your customers? Seriously this is getting old. You are getting a report from customers that the boss event will turn into another nightmare and your response is: we fixed the THING you all don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you fixed the THING but not the thing that people are reporting the problem with.

good gawd noooo
01-20-2014, 08:26 PM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.

really this is your answer. first of all you CANT watch 20 videos a day it wont let you.. second if the entire faction is doing this ltw and they get 3 out of it for free.. you cant blame the faction their trying.. gree seriously needs to fix these events. my faction is doing a lil better think we have 8 already but still not nearly enough to compete in this event.. and not every member in every faction can just buy gold at drop of hat and this event is following the war which is were most faction members spend the most gold. Maybe just maybe they are trying to stay in budget.. to say maybe they don't deserve to be in a faction because they cant afford gold is thoughtless mean and just plain WRONG!!!

Roscoe782
01-20-2014, 08:31 PM
Lol @ Just another day and we can summon a lv5 boss.

CJ, they were dropping before, in the same terrible rate...nothing has changed...sigh

By the way...the unsullied and jaebee...class acts. Great guys.

Now, carry on with the high folder tallies.

BIG DH
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
really this is your answer. first of all you CANT watch 20 videos a day it wont let you.. second if the entire faction is doing this ltw and they get 3 out of it for free.. you cant blame the faction their trying.. gree seriously needs to fix these events. my faction is doing a lil better think we have 8 already but still not nearly enough to compete in this event.. and not every member in every faction can just buy gold at drop of hat and this event is following the war which is were most faction members spend the most gold. Maybe just maybe they are trying to stay in budget.. to say maybe they don't deserve to be in a faction because they cant afford gold is thoughtless mean and just plain WRONG!!!

I've watched 20 videos a day for months, you just have to log out and back in, now if all you can get is 10 videos a day, better than nothing. I never said if you couldn't afford gold you didn't deserve to be in a faction. I said if you can't take 15min out of your busy schedule to help your faction by collecting free gold, then the players in your faction that spend their hard earned money on gold to support you should probably re-evaluate your place in the faction they're supporting. This event isn't starting for 9 days not right after war. Gree never claimed that intel folders would drop from the heavens in droves so you could complete the event for free. The last event took 6,000 folders approx, definitely not gonna be free.

Shrinko
01-20-2014, 10:49 PM
I've watched 20 videos a day for months, you just have to log out and back in, now if all you can get is 10 videos a day, better than nothing. I never said if you couldn't afford gold you didn't deserve to be in a faction. I said if you can't take 15min out of your busy schedule to help your faction by collecting free gold, then the players in your faction that spend their hard earned money on gold to support you should probably re-evaluate your place in the faction they're supporting. This event isn't starting for 9 days not right after war. Gree never claimed that intel folders would drop from the heavens in droves so you could complete the event for free. The last event took 6,000 folders approx, definitely not gonna be free.

What he meant was that your answer was far from a solution to the problem. You can NOT get 20 free gold every day of the month. Sometimes you get 20 per day but that almost never happens anymore. Most of the time I get anywhere between 3 and 20 per day. That's not what this thread is about though.

The problem is that the drop rate for the folders has not changed even though CJ and co fixed some kind of "thing". If they want to come out and say that the way to participate in the boss event is to buy folders with gold, fine. Just say it and don't insult us with "we fixed the thing".

easierlife
01-20-2014, 10:52 PM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.I got 4 bars of gold watching videos between the last 2 WD's. That was on one day. I try several times a day and don't get anything. On my android device I get around 5 a day. Don't try and justify Gree's failures.

VicStreet
01-20-2014, 11:08 PM
4000 energy 1 folders

stephen2013
01-20-2014, 11:44 PM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.

20 videos a day? You sure are optimistic. The most I've ever had is 15 in a day. I average around 10-12 gold per day. (iOS 7 iPad)

Bobar
01-20-2014, 11:58 PM
We would buy gold to finish it. But not gold to start participating. Btw. team of 49 members has 10 folders now. Just 2 more days and we will finish lvl 1 in easy mode and receive a.... medal? 100/100 unit.... ? Yeaha!!

ardiamonds
01-21-2014, 12:20 AM
the drop rate is not happening right, we should be getting folders in this LTQ event but I have not collected even one. in CC no problems now, so why can't the MW folks get it right?

Farticus
01-21-2014, 01:02 AM
Add my name to the chorus - 5,000 energy spent = 2 folders - not good

JDub
01-21-2014, 01:15 AM
If not for this thread I wouldn't have even known there was folders to collect. Ive been doing the LTQ since the moment it started and have used every bit of energy starting with 2600 in reserve. None. Not even one. Not even any talk about it in my factions chat rooms.

BTW I'm sitting on 8m usless valor.

tunka
01-21-2014, 01:28 AM
3000+ energy and zip sry for new thread must of had folder rage and couldnt find this one maybe i spelt it wong :) Still seriously im sure they got there best people working on it ... soon it rain folders

Gen CheeBye
01-21-2014, 03:19 AM
24k energy used and only 3 folders to show for.

What have you fixed gree...I ask again what the hell have you fixed?

Dezy
01-21-2014, 03:31 AM
18k.. 2 folders.... how to play boss event.:eek: jokers.

Vegaman
01-21-2014, 03:42 AM
56 members doing the LTQ, thats appox 252,000 energy. We have 22 folders or 1 per 11,454 energy. Slightly worse than the last drop rate i would say.

Thanks for starting this thread. Makes one realise how poor the drop rate is.

VSH
01-21-2014, 03:49 AM
Attention

I have 1,000,000,000 Intel folders for sale... going to the highest bidder !!!

C'mon... don't tell me you didn't see this coming!

10 Gold for 10 Folders. So how much is that worth in MW currency? 1m a folder, 10m a folder, 20, 30, 40m per folder? more?

Let the frenzy commence, lol

nadno
01-21-2014, 04:33 AM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

Not entirely true, i spent my full 6,880 + 3,500 approx this morning + 100 gold which is 5,000 more energy totalling 15,380 and i still have no intel folders received!! or in other words im half way through level 14/15 and have no folders received yet..thats a lot of energy for nothing!

barrack
01-21-2014, 04:48 AM
I just got 3 with 600 energy

Die14
01-21-2014, 05:17 AM
More than 7000 energy And gest what? Just 0 for me......

Bobar
01-21-2014, 05:27 AM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...


More than 7000 energy And gest what? Just 0 for me......

Can´t be. It´s fixed. (Thats what I try to tell them. It´s like laughing in our faces telling there is a drop rate if it´s that poor. Gree still does not understand how to treat customers...)

Kiko Matsing
01-21-2014, 05:27 AM
Level 9 on ltq and only 1 folder so far

Kiko Matsing
01-21-2014, 05:33 AM
Its much easier to watch a video. 1video is 1 intel folder :-)

Emerald_
01-21-2014, 05:37 AM
About 5500 energy and I have 2 folders, about the same as last time. Don't have a faction total as I'm the only one that has donated so far(I hope).

Big John
01-21-2014, 05:47 AM
They and concrete should drop in multiples of at least 5.

#Reaper
01-21-2014, 05:49 AM
You could always spend $10 for 100 folders that will only summon you 2 high level bosses and you're reward would not be guaranteed due to your faction hoarding it. Wait whats that? Oh, gree's minumum damage? Yea.. it wont register so you wont get the reward anyway. Happy spending over a non existing thing that is completely worthless that wont get you far. Honestly I would say use your tapjoy gold and only buy folders if your faction has enough to finish a particular part or there's a decent unit.

Hey Gree, dont count on me to spend any real money for this thing so you might as well add the option to buy these folders with all this VALOR we have hoarding. PLEASE...

aether100
01-21-2014, 05:51 AM
over 8000 energy zero folders. I will not buy one of them with gold!

lemonhaze
01-21-2014, 06:01 AM
no more freebie raid boss and farming units is what they mean on the drop rate lol

MaverickINsc
01-21-2014, 06:03 AM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...


why do we have stamina cj? if we cant get a folder from raiding/attacking .....and there is no fvf....and we can't trigger the raid boss because he is gone now.....all we can do is steal fake money.....once iph is up to 2 million per hour there isn't much need for that either....

2 accounts main 2300 energy = 1 folder
2nd account 5400 energy = 1 folder

7700 energy for 2 folders......this cant possibly be the same rate as KA or CC events is it?......it already takes gold to get past 33/36 on prestige using the same epic boss as last time.....im sure the boss is stronger than last time just because it always is......if you think the 50 man faction I am in will buy folders with gold for an event that takes additional gold to finish the development team is smoking crack.

CC1
01-21-2014, 06:15 AM
Seriously bro... Do you expect a million in stats for free? This ain't angry birds. Where have you been the last few months? 200 gold for 200 folders to get you a million in stats is about the best deal you are gonna get around here.

Of course I don't expect anything for free, bro. But have you done the math? Do you really believe 200 gold will get you a million in stats? Based on the number of folders per boss x the number of bosses x the cost per folder. No it's not Angry Birds. But it's also not a membership in Augusta National

/bean
01-21-2014, 06:52 AM
3500 energy for 1 folder

Mark-1
01-21-2014, 07:08 AM
I understand the idea of making it difficult to collect enough folders. It would encourage gold spending to buy them. But it should be possible to collect enough folder with lots of activity. I see no way to collect the amount necessary without buying them. That just creates resentment and anger in the community. Please fix the drop rate.

I need to be able to collect 10-15 per day to contribute my share to my faction. At this drop rate I will do about 3 per day. That is when using 100% of my energy during the LTQ. This is not a fair drop rate. Have a rate that is possible to achieve the needed folders. There will still be members buying them rather than spending the time and xp.

Lo.the.orge
01-21-2014, 07:51 AM
Can anyone confirm a folder dropping from anything other than the current ltq missions?... say via fight .. raid.. non ltq missions?

kmikulz
01-21-2014, 07:54 AM
Why even have a raid boss event, if it will be impossible to do. The drop rates on bricks and folders need to be examined. Something is out of balance. If you are going to leave the drop rate the same, at least adjust the cost to trigger bosses and purchase fortifications. Just my opinion. Thanks

Blackadder
01-21-2014, 07:57 AM
Slow but dropping.

DFI
01-21-2014, 08:32 AM
8000 and 3 folders.

Web323
01-21-2014, 08:42 AM
15000 and only 1

MikeG
01-21-2014, 09:59 AM
Its much easier to watch a video. 1video is 1 intel folder :-)

If your iOS you can watch more videos, but if your unlucky to be on Droid (which i am) 1-3 per day is the norm (even logging in and out makes no difference)

Dutchie
01-21-2014, 10:09 AM
In CC I got 3 for 1200. In MW it was 0 for 1600. The drop rate is terrible in MW and I see no difference between now and Chile, even though CJ assures us it is fixed... I think they need to look at the code again!

lightning strikes
01-21-2014, 10:10 AM
Both my accounts have 1 and they are 8 of 15 map event. Anyone know when they drop. The 2 intel folders dropped at different targets.

MikeG
01-21-2014, 10:15 AM
and 4800 and only 1 !

Slot
01-21-2014, 10:41 AM
I have got zero folders with 6k energy and another in faction got 20 with the same amount of energy so not sure if its fixed or not

ivez
01-21-2014, 10:41 AM
L12/15 not one folder...

Lo.the.orge
01-21-2014, 10:50 AM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...can we confirm that folders will/can drop from normal game play.. not just from current ltq missions...thank you...

Snibes
01-21-2014, 11:20 AM
In addition to the folders being extremely slow to drop from the LTQ, I haven't gotten a single one from pvp. According to the first event, they were supposed to. Has this changed?

dbell525
01-21-2014, 12:29 PM
In addition to the folders being extremely slow to drop from the LTQ, I haven't gotten a single one from pvp. According to the first event, they were supposed to. Has this changed?

This is not accurate. On CC and in the first MW raid boss, they only dropped via missions. Never from raids/attacks. Has this changed?

Shrinko
01-21-2014, 12:59 PM
This is not accurate. On CC and in the first MW raid boss, they only dropped via missions. Never from raids/attacks. Has this changed?
No, still only from missions. Initially, CJ stated that you can get folders from PvP and raids but then he retracted that like many other things. But remember the "thing" is fixed. Even though nothing has changed since the last time, the thing is fixed. So if the drop rate is the same as before the last boss event and that problem led them to give out 100 folders per person, doesn't it mean that we should expect 100 free folders this time? Or should we be expected to buy folders with gold as they expected us before they felt huge pressure to give out free folders the last time. Maybe that's the thing that was fixed: no free folders and we should be buying them with gold. CJ, how long will it take you to respond to numerous posts on this matter?

jester1989
01-21-2014, 01:01 PM
Im new to the game. And there is no Time Limit Quest for me in the game. WHY IS THAT. Im constantly at 1K stat whilst everyone they put me up against have 5K and more. ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO PLAY

italo512
01-21-2014, 01:06 PM
I'm on 11/15 and gotten 6. Other members in my faction are either ahead our at about the same as me, and the received zero so far!!!

italo512
01-21-2014, 01:10 PM
What kind of device are you playing on?? I can help, private message me so we don't jack this threadUOTE=jester1989;1165060]Im new to the game. And there is no Time Limit Quest for me in the game. WHY IS THAT. Im constantly at 1K stat whilst everyone they put me up against have 5K and more. ITS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO PLAY[/QUOTE]

Web323
01-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Alright 25K and only 2 folders

davecity
01-21-2014, 01:11 PM
Ok, so for the first 24,000 or energy I used across all my units, I got 4 folders, or a drop rate of 1 per 6,000 which seems about average that people have posted. GREE must have quietly adjusted because since then, I've got a total of 12 more after using 12,000 or so energy, which is 1 per 1,000.

However, even with the increased rate, this payout doesn't make much sense. It is so minuscule in the event and our faction would be done with all our folders in a matter of probably an hour or less. If GREE wants a gold-only event, there should be no doubt about it (i.e. no drop at all) and if they want more participation in an event, the drop rate should be much higher. Floating around in between those two thresholds gives us mixed signals. I read earlier that someone related this to a drug-dealer where the first hit was free and once hooked, would rely on you coming back with cash. Maybe there's some truth in that.

Just my opinion.

italo512
01-21-2014, 01:15 PM
Alright 25K and only 2 folders shewwww!!!

cheif505
01-21-2014, 01:19 PM
7600 and 4 folders !! Others in my faction 5000 and 2 folders and so on

Grecoref
01-21-2014, 01:25 PM
5000 and zero ditto on two accts

tunka
01-21-2014, 01:28 PM
7000+ energy NO intel folders thanks for nothing fixed my a*se

Dutchie
01-21-2014, 05:21 PM
Still no intel folders... This is a joke CJ, can you please sort it out.

badgerblood
01-21-2014, 05:24 PM
10k and two folders..

Maj. Tom
01-21-2014, 06:05 PM
0 for 9000 energy

rmodernwar
01-21-2014, 06:49 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

So, what is the drop rate supposed to be?

It appears we have been given 216 hours to collect folders before this Raid Boss event starts on 1/29. I have used 30 hours of standard regen time for total of 0 folders. Even if I had received "1" in this timeframe I would only be able to eek out 7 or 10 on a stretch. Is this the purported fix? A 0.02% drop rate!!! How is this supposed to work even for a maxed out faction, but especially assuming an event requirement of 5-7k. By now I would have a dozen or so crates in that sort of event. Will folders be dropping instead of crates?

Help us to understand MODs.

ExtremeP7
01-21-2014, 07:24 PM
Agree with the other 13 pages of posts. Bumping. Please fix.

Maestro
01-21-2014, 07:29 PM
On my Droid llp account I haven't even had a raid boss event load yet! I did get 100 folders last raid boss but could not use them. In This event the folder donation just says coming soon! Be glad your getting 1 folder every 6k energy at least you have the event! I just sold off my llp's base and am deleting that account! And it felt great selling everything!

Shrinko
01-21-2014, 07:57 PM
On my Droid llp account I haven't even had a raid boss event load yet! I did get 100 folders last raid boss but could not use them. In This event the folder donation just says coming soon! Be glad your getting 1 folder every 6k energy at least you have the event! I just sold off my llp's base and am deleting that account! And it felt great selling everything!
I feel you. We have most of out faction switching to a different game. We all like playing with each other but enough is enough. We are shopping around for a different game we can all play together. We still keep going with modern war but we are almost out of patience.

Thumpr
01-21-2014, 08:44 PM
So between 3 accts, and approx 16,000 energy...3 folders. Yeah...this has been fixed alright. Just like a boxing match between two of Don King's fighters.

Bobar
01-22-2014, 12:22 AM
GREE, where is your promised better communication? Please tell us, inform us about the droprate. How did you fix it?? Read your customers...

Gen CheeBye
01-22-2014, 01:11 AM
GREE, where is your promised better communication? Please tell us, inform us about the droprate. How did you fix it?? Read your customers...

It's winter now. They are hibernating.

Come back during spring to get your answers.

ardiamonds
01-22-2014, 05:16 AM
CJ, it is not fixed! I have spent 9000 energy for two folders? does that sound like they have corrected the problem?

Steg
01-22-2014, 08:26 AM
the last two folders the have dropped have gone AWOL. It just keeps getting funnier. Going to be a very short event for my faction.

This has happened to me with the island boxes and also concrete/boxes if they somehow dropped at the same time (some sort of miracle)

Our faction only has around 20 folders so far, so will be short for us too.

camper killer
01-22-2014, 08:53 AM
Guys they did communicate.... YOUR NOT GETTING IT

the folders you have are what your supposed to have.

Gree has made the game Pay to Play at the most basic level. so long as people spend on this crap they will not stop.

if you want free folders, then no one buy any this time. they know some will buy and others will buy to keep up.

this game is so very quickly no longer free to play, its free to download but not to play.

unless you have a chance to COMPLETE A FULL MISSION without gold, its not free to play.

bradleyk
01-22-2014, 08:58 AM
66 so far in my faction of 43 players. So far only 17 have donated. All are at 5 folders or less (I found 4) with the exception of one player that donated 19...assuming some of that 19 bought with gold.

Klank
01-22-2014, 09:12 AM
At best getting one every 7 hrs of energy so total joke. We will not be spending gold to buy folders to do a lvl 50 boss since that is about as far as I see us going. Gree clearly doesn't get it.

MaverickINsc
01-22-2014, 09:15 AM
faction of 50 -167 folders so far.....this event will be over very quickly......no gold for folders.....they will either adjust or scrap the event.

#Reaper
01-22-2014, 09:28 AM
Ten characters.

Aks
01-22-2014, 09:36 AM
1500 energy but only got one folder..

pedrombv
01-22-2014, 11:00 AM
Yesterday... 2300 energy spend and 1 folder :mad:, today 2000 and ...none :confused:, can´t understand this :(.

Tncatfan
01-22-2014, 11:05 AM
3000 energy, got two to drop in game, went to donate only 1 there!

Minister Timothy
01-22-2014, 11:13 AM
1/3 way through lvl 14 normal. However much energy that is. 4 folders.

Jaebee
01-22-2014, 11:18 AM
I just finished normal of the LTQ, and I have collected a grand total of 14. Sadly, that seems to be "better" than most reporting on here...sigh

Major mayhem
01-22-2014, 11:20 AM
Now used 13000 energy and still only got 5 folders.

Minister Timothy
01-22-2014, 11:21 AM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.
Man, are you for real. Those videos are lucky to give out 10 a week. They just started coming again after a week. Plus with the gold sales taking them away I have 16 over the past 3 weeks.

FromAfar
01-22-2014, 11:33 AM
zackery!

that's what credit and itune cards are for.

it's like fishing.

bait = 100 coins last time
hook = units "you just gotta have!"

you know there's a contest coming, and you have no folders! either go away with out the units... or

FISH ON!

do your best on the free videos or break out the cards! sorry, just being realistic.

i am actually guessing they will give out... maybe 50 this time. and after a few days, when their all gone, and your "so close" to the goals, you'll not have any folders, and they will not be dropping. $$$$$


Man, are you for real. Those videos are lucky to give out 10 a week. They just started coming again after a week. Plus with the gold sales taking them away I have 16 over the past 3 weeks.

Kefa
01-22-2014, 11:56 AM
Just finished Lv11/15 normal on the LTQ, no other energy, so that's 9,377 energy spent. From that I've gotten 3 folders. From the looks of it, overall drop rate is around 1 folder per 3500 energy - unless there are specific targets with better rates.

Warlord78
01-22-2014, 12:26 PM
I haven't gotten any

Racr-X
01-22-2014, 12:36 PM
I am on L12/15 and have only had 4 drop.

teachertrav44
01-22-2014, 01:12 PM
Not sure what the deal with the drop rate. Our faction of 36 has 98 folders....50 of which came from me. I've gotten all of my folders through the current LTQ. I'm on 20/20 prestige. Although I have gotten 50, everyone else in my faction have gotten 0-5. I know the event is a week away, but the crate events have a better drop rate than this. Even the pumpkin pie fiasco was better.

Philly982
01-22-2014, 01:21 PM
Almost done with the normal mode of the current LTQ and have not had a single folder drop.

Dude McArmy
01-22-2014, 02:17 PM
Averaging about 1 per 2500 the last two days. Pathetic.

Motley
01-22-2014, 02:18 PM
Im tired of this Gree crap. I'm done. Eat sh(i)t gree!

Luke7676
01-22-2014, 02:31 PM
I am also on 12/15 and have only had 4 drop as well. Way to low of a drop rate for sure...

Ky_Gill
01-22-2014, 02:35 PM
13/15 on LTQ and have gotten 3.. I see gree is really being generous with the folders. They gave everyone 100 free folders, let everyone see the major stat increase you can get from the event. Now there will be no free folders and the drop rate is garbage. Typical Gree way right there. I've played this game for well over a year.. They are just pushing harder and harder for people to buy gold. It's sad.

Gerath
01-22-2014, 02:37 PM
12/15 only 4 intel folders. The npc's just don't want to give them up.

badgerblood
01-22-2014, 02:48 PM
On 14/15... four folders.

Somehow my friend had three folders drop in a row on 12/15.. but that's his only three haha.

Maybe there is hope that we will be given 100 folders again?

Ugly Thundershield
01-22-2014, 03:05 PM
All sharing the same experience, just to bad Gree did not pick op this issue properly40 .
We have abt 40 members and same # of folders. Unbelievable.

Ssrasch
01-22-2014, 06:37 PM
14/15 5 folders

Umonk
01-22-2014, 11:52 PM
Ltq finished 27 folders

Yahoo
01-23-2014, 12:11 AM
Intel folders not dropping again.
Please say Gree wil give every player starting bonus of 100 like last time.
This was an excellent initiative. It rewardeds factions that allow newer small players.
It gets these newbies involved and playing more.

Thumpr
01-23-2014, 03:28 AM
My understanding is that the Raid Boss event was copied from Crime City. Never played that game, but if anyone else has, can you comment on what the drop rate was like in CC?

The Judy
01-23-2014, 03:49 AM
I'm am almost complete with the current LTQ and have 41 folders. They are dropping. Yes, the drop rate could be better. Raids and attacks should drop folders, especially since it is the "raid" boss.

KillerDriller
01-23-2014, 05:46 AM
Level 13 finished with 2 forders dropped so far. Seems like a ripoff to me. Doesnt look like we will be playing this raid boss event much.

X-BASS
01-23-2014, 06:35 AM
3000 and only one folder

aether100
01-23-2014, 09:37 AM
40,000 energy used in LTQ 4 folders . give me a break

sledge 187
01-23-2014, 10:25 AM
My understanding is that the Raid Boss event was copied from Crime City. Never played that game, but if anyone else has, can you comment on what the drop rate was like in CC?

Ive used about 14k energy in CC and have 43 folders

Vegaman
01-23-2014, 10:52 AM
The folders do drop on the current mission but in mine and most of my factions experience its not until you do the prestige section.

Oh ..... What a surprise. You need to spend gold to get a good way into the prestige section. LoL. So 56 members have generated 130 folders so far. Not gonna happen !

Snow Bunny
01-23-2014, 10:55 AM
Can u get them only energy, haven't attacked anyone but did prolly 200 1xp raids since they released n notta one folder

Snow Bunny
01-23-2014, 10:57 AM
Oh I have a "brick hunter" garbage LLP have done about 200 attacks no folders.. So yes only obtain thru energy events? In the help section I thought it said u could obtain from raids/attacks?

Bone Daddy
01-23-2014, 11:03 AM
i'm getting a ton of them from the LTQ event, well at least enough to not have to buy them when the event comes around. For the record, I really do not care for the folders based event, but I guess we are stuck with them.

qwertyguy
01-23-2014, 12:02 PM
I've almost finished the LTE in normal mode and only gotten 4 folders. None of my teammates are getting many either. It's about the same for them.

AdamInToronto
01-23-2014, 12:27 PM
I just completed lvl 13/15 of the normal LTQ (16,470 energy), and have received 1 folder. Booooo!

Flidai
01-23-2014, 12:32 PM
I am on 16/20 of Prestige Levels and I have only received 19 folders. That is a ridiculously slow rate of drop per 1000 energy! What gives?

Thumpr
01-23-2014, 05:20 PM
Ive used about 14k energy in CC and have 43 foldersso compared to my 20+k energy for 5.....the rate in CC seems a bit better...but still not pretty. Thanks for answering sledge

damcv62
01-23-2014, 05:24 PM
I got 22 in the first two days. Since, I have gotten 2 yesterday in 9500 energy, and today I got zero in 8500 energy.

Thumpr
01-23-2014, 05:40 PM
So here is my next question. Why the gift of 100 folders? Or more precisely, why 100 folders? I think the post informing us of that gift said that they had a late start and issues with drop rate. So why 100? Was that supposed to the average that we could expect to accumulate before the Raid Boss events? B/c from the sound of it, ain't nobody coming close to that. So why 100? Our faction of 50 peeps have busting hump on the LTQ and we've only grabbed 168 folders so far.

We had a lot of fun with that first raid boss event and end up spending a fair amount of gold beyond the gifted number. We were looking forward to the next event...but there is no way in hades we're going to do it 100% pay-to-play.

Transformer
01-23-2014, 11:47 PM
I just finished the LTQ and got 11 folders! 11, are you kidding me? I have some in my faction who have gotten 2 and some who have none! Raid boss is gonna suck this time around. Thanks Gree for sticking it to the players yet again!

ju100
01-23-2014, 11:53 PM
So here is my next question. Why the gift of 100 folders? Or more precisely, why 100 folders? I think the post informing us of that gift said that they had a late start and issues with drop rate. So why 100? Was that supposed to the average that we could expect to accumulate before the Raid Boss events? B/c from the sound of it, ain't nobody coming close to that. So why 100? Our faction of 50 peeps have busting hump on the LTQ and we've only grabbed 168 folders so far.

We had a lot of fun with that first raid boss event and end up spending a fair amount of gold beyond the gifted number. We were looking forward to the next event...but there is no way in hades we're going to do it 100% pay-to-play.

My faction totally agrees with that : we will not pay to play. We used gold to get some hard bosses but we won't pay just to summon bosses...

Yahoo
01-24-2014, 03:31 AM
So here is my next question. Why the gift of 100 folders? Or more precisely, why 100 folders? I think the post informing us of that gift said that they had a late start and issues with drop rate. So why 100? Was that supposed to the average that we could expect to accumulate before the Raid Boss events? B/c from the sound of it, ain't nobody coming close to that. So why 100? Our faction of 50 peeps have busting hump on the LTQ and we've only grabbed 168 folders so far.

We had a lot of fun with that first raid boss event and end up spending a fair amount of gold beyond the gifted number. We were looking forward to the next event...but there is no way in hades we're going to do it 100% pay-to-play.

Totaly agree with present non-drop rate it will be finshed before it starts. No play no fun. With the starting bonus we went for it and had a lot of fun wich is why we play this game at all isn't it.

Commander Vador
01-24-2014, 07:21 AM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...

Now that this has been "fixed", what is the drop rate that we should expect?

AlexFoo
01-24-2014, 07:28 AM
I've had over 50 folders drop since Monday. the rate isn't great, but you aren't going to see them drop on low energy missions... or hasn't been my experience this week.

is that fair? not really.. but it is what it is. I saw most of them pop on missions in the prestige LTQ, but not necessarily in the highest of missions, just throughout.


Just a hint/clue/help.

yupyup
01-24-2014, 09:53 AM
50? Then you must be trolling or uber lucky.
I'm on 15/15 with missions and only got 2 dropped.......

09231982
01-24-2014, 10:01 AM
I got about 50 threw whole ltq over 200 k energy

badgerblood
01-24-2014, 10:13 AM
Just finished 15/15.. 6 dropped

TheEvolution
01-24-2014, 10:22 AM
Finished ltq, 2600 gold and dropped a whopping total of 53 folders, thx Gree, u clearlyyy fixed it. We all benefited, well, at least us w strong accts, last raid boss and I think we should all prepare ourselves for Gree to stick it to us this go round.

TheEvolution
01-24-2014, 10:25 AM
To piggy back off my comment above, I truly feel sorry for the smaller accts who will undoubtedly have an awful time w this next one as Gree will surely make it difficult for top groups making it near impossible for T250 n up factions.

Vegaman
01-24-2014, 10:43 AM
I don't believe these people saying they have had 40 to 50 folders drop. I have spoken to 6 friends in other 50+ member factions and 150 ish intel folders seems to be the total average of each faction.

Our faction will sit it out if we have to buy them all and then buy more hits. Remember not ever faction has 30million plus stat players who can take out level 80-90 bosses with 2 or 3 hits.

TheEvolution
01-24-2014, 10:47 AM
Most guys in my faction had roughly 50 drop each who completed the ltq.

MackChumper
01-24-2014, 11:24 AM
Level 8 of event prestige with only 7 Intel folders dropped.

Luuzer
01-24-2014, 01:28 PM
Guys, sure the drop rate sucks, but the event is 9 days away. You can help your faction by watching 20 videos a day for a total of 180 gold netting your faction 180 intel folders. If any of you are in a faction where any member spends gold to help the team, this is a small price to pay to help your team. If your faction isn't worth 15min of your time per day, maybe you're not worth your factions time.

U get 20 videos a day, I havent gotten a single video on ipad(s) since the start. I do get couple of vids in every couple of days on android, but nothing much either there too :(

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?81215-Free-gold-videos.&p=1170430&viewfull=1#post1170430

Luuzer
01-24-2014, 01:31 PM
I've had over 50 folders drop since Monday. the rate isn't great, but you aren't going to see them drop on low energy missions... or hasn't been my experience this week.

is that fair? not really.. but it is what it is. I saw most of them pop on missions in the prestige LTQ, but not necessarily in the highest of missions, just throughout.


Just a hint/clue/help.

I'm prepping regular maps, doing main bosses that require 600-1000 energy each hit....drop rate is still VERY crappy and next to nothing.....

PenguinWSS69
01-24-2014, 05:45 PM
i havent gotten any videos and when it shows as having one modern war crashes think gree is done giving free gold away havent gotten a single folder since they say they fixed it i was getting them before now i get none

Sparkle
01-24-2014, 06:23 PM
Update: a couple days into collection of folders... solo event is completed by 42 faction members many of whom finished Normal and some of Prestige ... We have a grand total of 147 folders. This is sad.

Paul Wall
01-24-2014, 06:44 PM
Almost 30,000 people have viewed this thread.... Mods: DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET BETTER CLARIFICATION THAN CJ's USUAL NONHELPFUL ANSWER? Please? The Oracle did a Kick A$$ job with Q&A but how many views/comments are needed in a thread before a moderator stops to help? We just want some damn clarification.

Pee-Wee Herman
01-24-2014, 09:23 PM
Well, it seems like we're gonna have to buy folders with gold at this rate. Good job GREE, making another reason to spend money on this so called "free" game.

Colonel J
01-24-2014, 09:38 PM
No point using capital letters Paul Wall. Nor getting angry at gree. Im frustrated to but have self control over anger. Take a chill pill paul wall and relax. Let gree do what they gotta do without hindering them. A squeaky wheel gets the most oil. But it gets annoy listning to negative whinging people all the time.

gen tso
01-25-2014, 09:28 AM
Collected total of 30 through ltq and prepping maps due to no ltq info up . Not good enough

LW okie
01-25-2014, 12:39 PM
I hope they intend to give out 100 folders again. This is ridiculous.

Asto
01-25-2014, 12:57 PM
I think it's fair to say that this event is a joke. At least on Crime City they give us about 2 weeks usually to collect uzis (used to summon bosses- basically intel folders). I believe on CC we've had an extra 2 days to collect them and there won't be a raid boss for at least another 2 days on there

Bobar
01-25-2014, 01:18 PM
I think it's fair to say that this event is a joke. At least on Crime City they give us about 2 weeks usually to collect uzis (used to summon bosses- basically intel folders). I believe on CC we've had an extra 2 days to collect them and there won't be a raid boss for at least another 2 days on there

though i started this thread, i have to disagree in that Point. there has been enough time - if the drop rate would have been better

JB5
01-25-2014, 01:34 PM
Didn't get a very good drop rate during the ltq. But since the case event started, I've got nothing. No folders at all.

JDub
01-25-2014, 06:26 PM
About 25k energy. I dont even bother keeping track of how much energy I have used any more. So far I have 4 folders.

I quit spending money on gold a while back. Greed won't sucker me into spending more money. I don't care if I make it to the top or not at this point. I have spent some time in a top 50 faction thats good enough for me. Now I'm just here for the friendships.

db11doc
01-25-2014, 06:50 PM
I am in over 6k energy today with zero folders. Thanks for the fix!!

SEC
01-25-2014, 11:20 PM
In KA you get orbs which are exactly the same as intel folders. They currently have a LTQ type mission going and you get orbs after killing nearly every mob. In fact you get 2 of them. You guys need to bring over the KA developers to MW and teach them how to fix this pathetic drop rate or give us all at least 100 free folders again.

Diamonddavej05
01-26-2014, 04:59 AM
Two accounts 4200 energy each one got a folder the other did not ,so basically 8400 energy one folder

Flidai
01-26-2014, 06:35 AM
Gree told us to fix the poor drop rate. I'd like to check that. Tell us your experience. How many did you gain? I just spent 3300 energie on 'Counter the Insurgents' and got: none. A teammate got at least two for 3000 energie...

Really fixed?

They did not fix the drop rate! I haven't seen a folder drop in two days and I play all day on a main and a mini. Where are the folders?

aBigDek
01-26-2014, 06:38 AM
I used 9600 energy this am on 2 accounts and got 0...ZERO. But I'm up to 78 crates on one and 102 on the other. I have no problem SUPPLEMENTING my faction by buying folders so we can finish. But we used 6k folders last time and we only have around 500. And that's w 8 of us finishing the LTQ!

chiefkeo
01-26-2014, 07:13 AM
Guys a bar of gold a piece isn't asking too much. If everyone in your faction donates 200, that's plenty to finish. You are getting a million in stats. Why you whining about folder drop rates? As an added bonus, you aren't getting XP for raiding and doing missions just to collect folders.

Because not every player can afford to spend money endlessly on this game. Sure 200 gold isn't that much, but that is for 1 event. It is the totality of the cycle and the endless need for gold that frustrates many players. Even though I said I never would when I started this game I have become a gold player. But it seems at the rate it is going you will have to become a gold program member to buy enough gold to keep up with the stat inflation, some players just want to play this game for fun, not as a reason to get a second job to support it.

Stacey
01-26-2014, 07:31 AM
First 30000 energy 1 folder. Once LTQ over Switched to lower maps and Multi Cell Commander in Dictator's Compound giving 10%+ folders drop . Crates drop from this dude is close to 100% (iOS)
10% drop rate for intel folders at 779 XP! No thanks.

fuzzlenutz
01-26-2014, 08:04 AM
It's become a vicious cycle I am not spending my money on gold for a game thats broken most of the time with poor support.
This means that I am not finishing most events meaning I am not getting top prizes meaning I am getting weaker evry event by comparison.





Because not every player can afford to spend money endlessly on this game. Sure 200 gold isn't that much, but that is for 1 event. It is the totality of the cycle and the endless need for gold that frustrates many players. Even though I said I never would when I started this game I have become a gold player. But it seems at the rate it is going you will have to become a gold program member to buy enough gold to keep up with the stat inflation, some players just want to play this game for fun, not as a reason to get a second job to support it.

Gunny Smith
01-26-2014, 08:20 AM
I'm not a programmer but would it be so hard to get a folder instead of a sorry????????

alzl
01-26-2014, 10:22 AM
It is crazy. They knew about the absurd drop rate last time too

kmikulz
01-26-2014, 10:38 AM
Over 6000 energy on 3 maps, no folders

Gabrielk74
01-26-2014, 01:15 PM
Dictators compound insurgent coordinator 1 case every 2 attacks not folders

RetiredAndHappy
01-26-2014, 01:28 PM
The disappointing thing is that despite the mods taking the time to answer all of our comments on "our letter" and seemingly advising that they would be more forth coming, things haven't changed.

The only response we have had was CJ telling us that I bug was fixed to allow the intel folders to drop.. A lot of us had hoped that, at least the customer relation levels would have risen.. A mass number of us have been watching to see how Gree would behave within the current weeks and there does not appear to be a sufficient change to the issues that are being raised by the customers

penguinwss
01-26-2014, 02:45 PM
Funny thing is when ltq started i got 12 pretty fast than they FIXED IT now i get 0 blowing all my energy constantly they just expect us to buy 6000+ folders for them to make money

andy2
01-26-2014, 03:03 PM
waited way more than a fair amount of time for even a response saying 'this bad rate is what we want the rate to be' and we cant even get that. so much for communication when even a 23 page post cant get an answer.... good god

RetiredAndHappy
01-26-2014, 03:11 PM
Could a mod please answer the customers regarding this issue?

Shrinko
01-26-2014, 04:22 PM
Could a mod please answer the customers regarding this issue?
I think it's pretty clear that they have been ignoring this thread for several days and are not going to respond. Just get ready to spend gold to buy folders.

sawnoff69
01-26-2014, 04:28 PM
why the hell would u spend any energy when clearly there is a problem and gree will just have to give us all folders again. only make u lvl up and have **** stats for lvl in war

Flash0810
01-27-2014, 05:27 AM
Here is my take on the Intel Folder drop rate. CJ you can comment either way on this but this is really starting to get me angry with this game and GREE as a whole!

I have the same issue where I and many in the faction are busting our backsides off with this Intel Folder issue for the Raid Boss. So far, we have only gotten 191 for our back breaking work!!!!!!! What I see is the Drop Rate has been reduced drastically and GREE "may" have fixed one/several issues with the Folders. But the whole push I see here is they have added the option to buy Folder for 10 Gold at a time. Its GREEdy way of adding and rigging something to exploit the means of generating yet more money to their bottom line. While the cost is low, it is however a money generating means event to increase the revenue. While 100 folders were given to everyone in the first Raid Boss event in MW, it is a classic case of "dangle a carrot in front of a mule and get it to follow".

CJ and Admins, please don't take this the wrong way. But everything about the game just seems to be focused on revenue. At some point, this thinking will eventually be GREE's downfall. To improve a game does not mean that you have to code something into it to generate revenue.

CC1
01-27-2014, 06:30 AM
As of now, our team has collected 190 folders. Given that last time our team used over 4,000 folders, 190 means nothing relevant. I've stopped trying. Im not going to incur several thousand XP for to add a drop in a bucket. If they don't give us a starting balance this time, it will be a clear sign management's strategic direction is to eventually become 100% pay to play. That will be the tipping point for me. I'll use up the two vaults of gold I have on-hand and see if I can still enjoy the game as a free player. The enjoyment likely wont last long. Exerting so much time and effort only to lose relative ground is a fun killer.

I'm hopeful, we'll get a starting balance of folders again. Perhaps I'm naive. Or perhaps, I'm in the denial stage of the grief (GREEf) cycle that maybe it's time to nuke my base and move on with my life. Bad drop rates (intel folders, and concrete), failure to communicate with customers (especially after promising to do better), glitches and errors, failing to meet timelines (new LTE building and the statement that Epic Boss will be included this cycle but nothing updated yet), and a total indifference to customer base. These are all indicators of poorly managed company. Where do you draw the line?

Are we getting folders or not? A simple yes or no would be better than what we know now. Maybe it's being kept secret for some unknown reason. Maybe they just don't care enough to answer customer questions. Either way it doesn't encourage me to continue patronizing a company. Any company.

Gabrielk74
01-27-2014, 12:44 PM
Gree we now have over 25,500 views of this thread and no reply. Can we please have some reply from a mod as to what is going on this is a major issue for your players.

MaverickINsc
01-27-2014, 01:06 PM
hyper active mostly free some gold high level players faction of 50 .......638 folders......the new guys and small guys have no chance to do this event at all without gree intervention......that much is obvious.

M1keperry
01-27-2014, 03:19 PM
This is such a bad drop rate it won't hurt if they change the drop rate those of us who don't buy gold won't only the ones that have bought gold before will buy some but as a faction you need a little more than 6k our team of 50 only has 500 and lots where bought with tap joy gold etc come on gree this is a free to play game how are we supposed to play this free game that requires money to play an event with your friends.

Thumpr
01-27-2014, 04:09 PM
Haven't been in the forum a few days, but I see nothing has changed. Here is my latest beef with the drop rate, and I'm curious if anyone else has commented about this. XP. I've been blasting away to the tune of about 10-20k energy a day between my three accounts for only a few folders. And then it hit me...I'm killing myself to grab a few scraps for the faction......but at the cost of a butt ton of XP and leveling. Sooooooooo not worth it. Last event was a lot of fun and was looking forward to the next one, but I just told my faction leader that I'm not spending ANY gold on folders. Too bad too, b/c I spent a fair bit last time above the gifted amt to try and complete it.

mangkali
01-27-2014, 11:39 PM
I supposed there is always a silver lining in every cloud. While the faction war is skewed towards small super faction, this folder events favors large groupings. where more members means more folders. More ppl can be rewarded with shared folders.

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Jay02
01-28-2014, 01:17 AM
I supposed there is always a silver lining in every cloud. While the faction war is skewed towards small super faction, this folder events favors large groupings. where more members means more folders. More ppl can be rewarded with shared folders.

That's not going to change anything, the streak factions will all go back to their main for this event like they do for btbs, and fltqs. Then break back into streak factions for war. Speaking of fltqs, we haven't had one in quite a while

xXSAVAGEXx-
01-28-2014, 08:27 AM
I got 28 folders... About 10k energy. I think before the event gree will give every member of faction 100 folders like they did last time.

Farticus
01-28-2014, 08:47 AM
I got 28 folders... About 10k energy. I think before the event gree will give every member of faction 100 folders like they did last time.
I think they will give something but I think it will be less than 100

CTRC(SW) UMBRA
01-28-2014, 09:00 AM
When compared to other GREE games that have Raid Boss (equivalent) events, the drop rate for the Intel Folders is extremely low! The problem I see is the other game titles have about 5-6 LTQ events on average leading up to a Raid Boss which helps teams earn enough "Summon items". In my experience with the other GREE titles, the teams collect about 2000+ "summon items" before the Raid Boss.

Why is there similarities in different GREE games, yet SO different in events like Raid Boss?

Snibes
01-28-2014, 11:26 AM
I wonder if they might've mixed up the order of events. Possibly intending on having the other two LTQ's before the raid boss event? Just speculating...

M1keperry
01-28-2014, 11:28 AM
I haven't had a folder drop in 48hrs and I've been doing missions in natural gas facility

pablodiablo696996
01-28-2014, 11:43 AM
Since the rugged case has started I have had zero drops on my Android.I have raided,attacked, done maps & ****d and pillige with no success. People within my factions has had drops only with Ios. Hopefully Gree will compensate tomorrow like last time.

Flidai
01-28-2014, 02:12 PM
I have received like one folder in 2-3 days! I received more folders BEFORE they fixed the drop rate! There is nothing okay about this. I also have not been able to get crates very easily, only slightly more than folders. I spent at least 2500 energy trying for a crate, plus I have leveled up 2-3 times just trying for crates! What gives?

Hakim
01-28-2014, 04:29 PM
3 days, 40,000 energy and 4 folders. 4. That's right 4.

Greediculous

Dr3@m|ov3R
01-28-2014, 05:52 PM
4500 energy for 2 folders. :(

Mr. Artois
01-28-2014, 06:21 PM
It's a pay to play game now, they have increased the raid boss health and also increased how many folders you need to summon a boss, why do you think the drop rate of folders is so sh1t ?

U Mad?
01-28-2014, 06:33 PM
100 levels here we come

poopda pants
01-28-2014, 06:40 PM
I'm seeing at lot of inactive players when raiding. I guess GREE is trying to get the rest of us to quit too with this shambles of a raid boss event.
Not a very good business model if you ask me.

Flidai
01-28-2014, 08:03 PM
[QUOTE=CJ54;1163601]We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all


As far as I'm concerned, two folders in two days is only ever so slightly more than not at all.

In essence, these are going to be known as, "GOLDers" because without gold, there will be no folders!

SultanB
01-28-2014, 08:24 PM
Lvl.100 -1,277,100,000 HP -100 folders
Lvl.95 -571,648,000 - 50
Lvl.90 -207,035,000 - 40
Lvl.85 - 155,232,000 - 35
Lvl.80 - 110,000,000 - 30
Lvl.75 - 65,720,000 - 28
Lvl.70 -38,130,000 - 26
Lvl.65 -26,840,000 - 24
Lvl.60 - 18,634,000 - 22
Lvl.55 -13,920,000 - 20
Lvl.50 -7,259,000 - 19
Lvl.45 - 5,192,000 - 18
Lvl.40 - 3,744,000 - 17
Lvl.35 - 2,784,000 - 16
Lvl.30 - 1,725,000 - 15
Lvl.25 - 912,000 - 14
Lvl.20 - 678,000 - 13
Lvl.15 - 476,000 - 12
Lvl.10 - 300,000 - 11
Lvl.5 - 200,000 - 10

Lukie
01-28-2014, 09:07 PM
We fixed the thing that made them not drop at all...


They still drop the same way they did before....
Basically never

Browner389
01-28-2014, 10:22 PM
The great news about all of this is that only the hackers can only benefit from this game - just like the crate event - 500 rifles? Please...

This game is really falling out for me - Im not going to sink $100 into a game every event just to have a CHANCE at getting something

LosKevanos
01-28-2014, 11:24 PM
Another failed opportunity for GREE to connect with their consumer. Only the second event of such and they don't even bother dressing in sheep disguise anymore or try to lure us from the herd, just plain ol teeth baring salvation dripping menacing growl expecting us to succumb as a lamb to the slaughter.

Let's admit it... We're whipped... Wrapped around their finger and drop our gold for whatever they serve us. They don't even have to cook... Hades, they can just take it out of the freezer and toss it to us. Do I exaggerate too much to say that we are as hogs in the mire and happy to eat any slop they pour in our trough?

This will be an exclusive gold event, which means that it will be an exclusive top faction event since it will require gold from more members than just a few. That means 85% of the game population will be unable to finish even the second tier if not the first -- whereas the issue isn't about the increased boss strength, which taxes the top factions and individual gold user, but with the available intel folders that the factions have to even summon the bosses in the first place.

We still have to wait and see whether GREE will drop us folders, but after finding out the summon prices have gone up and the strength of the bosses have jumped 70%, does it even matter? As pointed out already, we can't even assume the faction missions arn't drastically more difficult.

I'm a heavy gold user... Don't get me wrong, I am not whinging on my own part... I can complete this event solo like I did the first. My friends... It's the entire principle that disgusts me...

I don't like this! I do not like what they are serving us nor the manner in which they have done so... And I refuse to partake of it! Send this foul obscenity back to the kitchen where you will prepare it properly and serve it to me with the dignity and respect I deserve as your loyal regular customer!

I mean how dare you charge me the price of a fine dining gourmet feast and just toss it to me like slop and expect me to partake because you've assumed I'm hungry and will eat anything you give me... Who does that? On what planet is that acceptable... And then you do it to all of us?

You're right... There will be those who will eat as the prisoner they are, thankful for the fecal matter before them and pay good gold to do so. They and GREE will look at us as if we have the problem.

My comrades!... The enemy has never been each other, the enemy is and always has been GREE...

The question is... Have your personal and individual quests for supremacy become so great that you have allowed them to overcome your sense of dignity, integrity, and decency? Have you been infected with their Greed that you all can't boycott a single event that tests whether or not we will allow them to ever do this again??

We have the power!

SEND IT BACK!!!

DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS!!!

REFUSE TO PARTAKE OF THIS RUBBISH!!!

DON'T BE GREEDY PIGS!

Respectfully submitted for your consideration,

LosKevanos

CC1
01-29-2014, 04:32 AM
Lvl.100 -1,277,100,000 HP -100 folders
Lvl.95 -571,648,000 - 50
Lvl.90 -207,035,000 - 40
Lvl.85 - 155,232,000 - 35
Lvl.80 - 110,000,000 - 30
Lvl.75 - 65,720,000 - 28
Lvl.70 -38,130,000 - 26
Lvl.65 -26,840,000 - 24
Lvl.60 - 18,634,000 - 22
Lvl.55 -13,920,000 - 20
Lvl.50 -7,259,000 - 19
Lvl.45 - 5,192,000 - 18
Lvl.40 - 3,744,000 - 17
Lvl.35 - 2,784,000 - 16
Lvl.30 - 1,725,000 - 15
Lvl.25 - 912,000 - 14
Lvl.20 - 678,000 - 13
Lvl.15 - 476,000 - 12
Lvl.10 - 300,000 - 11
Lvl.5 - 200,000 - 10

Thanks for the info. How did you get it? I have the toolkit but I can't find it anywhere.

Grizz875
01-29-2014, 04:41 AM
Try to donate more folders than you have then go to the summon screen

Flash0810
01-29-2014, 04:49 AM
They still drop the same way they did before....
Basically never

I also play on an Android & iOS platform. On the Android - 0! On the iOS - almost 0!

CC1
01-29-2014, 04:49 AM
Another failed opportunity for GREE to connect with their consumer. Only the second event of such and they don't even bother dressing in sheep disguise anymore or try to lure us from the herd, just plain ol teeth baring salvation dripping menacing growl expecting us to succumb as a lamb to the slaughter.

Let's admit it... We're whipped... Wrapped around their finger and drop our gold for whatever they serve us. They don't even have to cook... Hades, they can just take it out of the freezer and toss it to us. Do I exaggerate too much to say that we are as hogs in the mire and happy to eat any slop they pour in our trough?

This will be an exclusive gold event, which means that it will be an exclusive top faction event since it will require gold from more members than just a few. That means 85% of the game population will be unable to finish even the second tier if not the first -- whereas the issue isn't about the increased boss strength, which taxes the top factions and individual gold user, but with the available intel folders that the factions have to even summon the bosses in the first place.

We still have to wait and see whether GREE will drop us folders, but after finding out the summon prices have gone up and the strength of the bosses have jumped 70%, does it even matter? As pointed out already, we can't even assume the faction missions arn't drastically more difficult.

I'm a heavy gold user... Don't get me wrong, I am not whinging on my own part... I can complete this event solo like I did the first. My friends... It's the entire principle that disgusts me...

I don't like this! I do not like what they are serving us nor the manner in which they have done so... And I refuse to partake of it! Send this foul obscenity back to the kitchen where you will prepare it properly and serve it to me with the dignity and respect I deserve as your loyal regular customer!

I mean how dare you charge me the price of a fine dining gourmet feast and just toss it to me like slop and expect me to partake because you've assumed I'm hungry and will eat anything you give me... Who does that? On what planet is that acceptable... And then you do it to all of us?

You're right... There will be those who will eat as the prisoner they are, thankful for the fecal matter before them and pay good gold to do so. They and GREE will look at us as if we have the problem.

My comrades!... The enemy has never been each other, the enemy is and always has been GREE...

The question is... Have your personal and individual quests for supremacy become so great that you have allowed them to overcome your sense of dignity, integrity, and decency? Have you been infected with their Greed that you all can't boycott a single event that tests whether or not we will allow them to ever do this again??

We have the power!

SEND IT BACK!!!

DEMAND WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS!!!

REFUSE TO PARTAKE OF THIS RUBBISH!!!

DON'T BE GREEDY PIGS!

Respectfully submitted for your consideration,

LosKevanos

And LosKevanos, you're absolutely right. If boss health has in fact increased 70% and number of folders has also increased, there is no way I will be motivated to participate as much as I did last time. It's hard enough for officers in our group to push and try to motivate the team, when it appears doing so means less gains than last time.

Perhaps goals will be reduced, or units improved or some other off-setting benefit. It appears Gree's Method of Operation is to let speculation discourage players before an event. Then when it comes out not as bad as the speculation (but still worse than the last time) we gobble it up and are thankful for the crumbs they toss our way. It's psychology at its worst.