System Behind Points for Guild War Battles

[StMichael]

I am still trying to figure out how the points for winning guild war battles are assigned. While the points for each individual battle appears to be random, the range appears to be fixed. What I cannot figure out is how the system behind the range of points work. I am just guessing it has to do with relative power level or or relative armor levels.

Any input from other players?

[Eunuchorn]

All knights give 300-500 pts(X) at random.
GM: X+50%
HC/CHAMP/SENT: X+25%
Commander: X

Intricate amirite? Wtb better codemonkeys

[Sent]

All knights give 300-500 pts(X) at random.
GM: X+50%
HC/CHAMP/SENT: X+25%
Commander: X

Intricate amirite? Wtb better codemonkeys

How about every commander starts out at 250 points.
Defeat one knight: +25 (10%)
Defeat two knights: +50 (20%)
Win: +100 (40%)
but
Lose one knight: -25 (10%)
Lose two knights: -50 (20%)
Lose: -250 (100%)

So max you can have if you win is 350 points, max if you lose is 50 (-250 +50 if you lose but killed two knights). You can also get 10 points or so if you get destroyed and don't kill any of his knights.

[StMichael]

Sent's formula seems a bit more sensible, since I have gotten as low as 130+ points for defeating an opponent. Defeating knights, however, is already factored into the point system: up to 30 for defeating all their knights, or 10 for every one defeated. So even Sent's formula does not appear to account for it.

[Eunuchorn]

Sent's formula seems a bit more sensible, since I have gotten as low as 130+ points for defeating an opponent. Defeating knights, however, is already factored into the point system: up to 30 for defeating all their knights, or 10 for every one defeated. So even Sent's formula does not appear to account for it.

Android or IOS? Prob low level if IOS.

[Sent]

Sent's formula seems a bit more sensible, since I have gotten as low as 130+ points for defeating an opponent. Defeating knights, however, is already factored into the point system: up to 30 for defeating all their knights, or 10 for every one defeated. So even Sent's formula does not appear to account for it.
Oh, I just put my thought on what the formula should be, not what I think the formula is.

[StMichael]

Oh, I just put my thought on what the formula should be, not what I think the formula is.

I guess none of us are able to decipher the formula, huh?

[knightsanddraggings]

I guess none of us are able to decipher the formula, huh?
Random number, from 100-350.

[StMichael]

Random number, from 100-350.

One of the reason why I am curious, is the fact that in the latest guild war we declared, we all scored points in the 100s while the other guild score points in the 200s for the respective wins. If this is totally random, we need to pray to the dice gods.

[Eunuchorn]

All knights give 300-500 pts(X) at random.
GM: X+50%
HC/CHAMP/SENT: X+25%
Commander: X

Intricate amirite? Wtb better codemonkeys


This the formula wth are you talking about

[bosskiller]

Random number, from 100-350.

It is a little more than that, since some people you fight can get you 280+ every time. But I would like to know how it works as well.... I think armor points of your opponent may have something to do with it. Usually easier opponents get you less points, at least from my experience. Maybe your level factors into it as well....

[Eunuchorn]

It is a little more than that, since some people you fight can get you 280+ every time. But I would like to know how it works as well.... I think armor points of your opponent may have something to do with it. Usually easier opponents get you less points, at least from my experience. Maybe your level factors into it as well....

It is extremely unlikely any points are tied to armor; one strip farm will tell you that. They are tied to levels though, you are likely noticing lower scores from under 100s

This is proven & tested.

[bosskiller]

It is extremely unlikely any points are tied to armor; one strip farm will tell you that. They are tied to levels though, you are likely noticing lower scores from under 100s

This is proven & tested.

I don't see stripping a lot personally, but from what I heard that has to be true. Levels have to be though. Hard to say what levels opponents are on though, but usually people i face are in good guilds, so usually over 100, at least I would assume.

[Dianish]

On android i noticed it doesnt matter which armor you wear, which armor the opponent has, how many knights you have left when you win.

1 opponent that gave me 316+30 points - No misses from either of us. No RNG crits. Used SA as 2nd last hit. Had 2 knights with elemental advantage and the 3rd had none, had 1 knight left upon my victory. I fought the same player again with same setup and got 94+30 points. Fought him again cause that couldnt be and i got 384+30 points - Still same setup and exact same fight as the other 2 fights.

In mine opinion there isnt any point system per say - The points are RNG based. BUT - It seems that there is a certain amount of player in each fight that gives over 300 points. The job is the find them and announce it. Not sure if it holds water though.

[Eunuchorn]

I've theoried that the energy bar you use affects it in some way; but prob not. Apparently you get between 212-321+Rank Bonus for no rhyme or reason. Standard RNG, just like chests.

Except android who has no rank bonus. Suckas.

[bosskiller]

I've theoried that the energy bar you use affects it in some way; but prob not. Apparently you get between 212-321+Rank Bonus for no rhyme or reason. Standard RNG, just like chests.

Except android who has no rank bonus. Suckas.

Well, no GM strip farming...

[Eunuchorn]

I've theoried that the energy bar you use affects it in some way; but prob not. Apparently you get between 212-321+Rank Bonus for no rhyme or reason. Standard RNG, just like chests.
Except android who has no rank bonus. Suckas.


Well, no GM strip farming...

This is true, but your 5-15 slots just haven't gotten cutthroat enough yet to do it is all.
Or haven't figured out how to abuse it for score leapfrogging. Luckily the IOS guilds had me to teach then how to slingshot into top 10.
That being said, I didn't discover stripping nor be the first to "abuse" it, & thought if I "broke" the system Gree would fix it. Now it's just a plague we must suffer.
Apparently Elita is just hearing about it.

& that being said today was the dawning of a new era. RR will no longer be stripping or using strips outside of Rco.

[Kangaroeland]

On android it feels like:
- Closer battles reward higher points. It looks like every battle outcome (depends on crits, misses, special attacks, knight order etc.) rewards a certain point value. If i fight a close battle and i dont miss crit or use SA i get for instance 280-320. When i start using SA it drops to 220-250 and when i crit them a few times and use SA it goes even lower but this doesnt go for every battle ive fought, sometimes it just seems random.
- Not using special attack rewards higher points
- Low level enemies give real low points
- Points are mostly diminishing the second time but a third of fourth can be anything.
- Points are between 130 and 340

[knightsanddraggings]

This is true, but your 5-15 slots just haven't gotten cutthroat enough yet to do it is all.
Or haven't figured out how to abuse it for score leapfrogging. Luckily the IOS guilds had me to teach then how to slingshot into top 10.
That being said, I didn't discover stripping nor be the first to "abuse" it, & thought if I "broke" the system Gree would fix it. Now it's just a plague we must suffer.
Apparently Elita is just hearing about it.

& that being said today was the dawning of a new era. RR will no longer be stripping or using strips outside of Rco.

Sorry for the late reply, just got up.

1. People do strip farm on Android, but not at as high numbers as the alliances are much harderto draw.

2. On my low level accounts, the points do seem level based, so I can also confirm. Lower levels earned me 150 or so. Higher levels earn me 300+. Maybe level just influences the score, in a way like "if higher level, roll for points 3 times", or something random like that.

[Lonestar Light]

On android it feels like:
- Closer battles reward higher points. It looks like every battle outcome (depends on crits, misses, special attacks, knight order etc.) rewards a certain point value. If i fight a close battle and i dont miss crit or use SA i get for instance 280-320. When i start using SA it drops to 220-250 and when i crit them a few times and use SA it goes even lower but this doesnt go for every battle ive fought, sometimes it just seems random.
- Not using special attack rewards higher points
- Low level enemies give real low points
- Points are mostly diminishing the second time but a third of fourth can be anything.
- Points are between 130 and 340
I've noticed that very close battles tend to reward me less points on average than when I defeat an opponent convincingly.
Enemies that are noticeably weaker either gives 150- or 300+ points, with results being entirely different from player to player.
By my observation (purely based on my stats) it seems that being a high commander on average nets you slightly higher scores per win than as a commander.

[bosskiller]

- Points are between 130 and 340

wrong. I saw a ss of one of my guild members getting 98 for a win. He was so pissed...

[toogoodformyowngood]

points are (random factor)*(enemy level)+(30 points).

So far my lowest point is about 130 and max is about 360.

Averaging about 260-290.

Well that's for android. how close the battles dont matter, neither do armors and crits etc.

If a 100+ level player strips u should still get max points for Android (potentially).

[Musketeer]

All knights give 300-500 pts(X) at random.
GM: X+50%
HC/CHAMP/SENT: X+25%
Commander: X

Intricate amirite? Wtb better codemonkeys

Maybe if your opponent is level 100+, in which case my opponents almost never are.

I've rarely scored over 500 and I almost always attack the sentinel. If there isn't one it's the GM. My initial score before the two bonuses is usually in the 150-300 range, but I've had lower than 100 a couple of times.

[senseisbaby]

I'd like to know why iOS gets special "rank bonuses" and android gets poop?

I watched my bf beat the gm on iOS and he collected over 400 pts including the win, rank bonus and knight bonus.

I beat the gm on android and only got the win and knight bonus.(win was a measley 199 Btw). Why are the system points different? We both spend the same amount on gems! Completely unfair.

[Eridian]

Why are the system points different? We both spend the same amount on gems! Completely unfair.

It doesn't really matter: there are 2 wars: one for android and one for ios.
So who cares ios gets more points? At the end it's only your rank that counts

[senseisbaby]

It doesn't really matter: there are 2 wars: one for android and one for ios.
So who cares ios gets more points? At the end it's only your rank that counts

It matters to people who have allies that strip for you and your guild has point requirements...also, more points for your team means higher rank. you obviously don't have a clue.

[Paladineguru]

Ur blonde aren't you, its okay . You can admit it

[Bride of Eunuchorn]

It matters to people who have allies that strip for you and your guild has point requirements...also, more points for your team means higher rank. you obviously don't have a clue.

Android doesn't have a stripping epidemic because it doesn't have rank bonuses. You should be thankful instead of crying like a baby.

[Purplemunkii]

+1 to not having the rank bonus. Stripping isn't rampant yet and I'm ok with it.

[cafedecoy]

+1 to not having the rank bonus. Stripping isn't rampant yet and I'm ok with it.

yeah let's dumb down the game :P oh fun.

[toogoodformyowngood]

rank bonuses makes it more fun imho. lol.