Strippers for RR

[Thunderkat]

You can take this for what it's worth or leave:
If you are a guild that participated in stripping for the RR alliance ask yourself what benefit it is to you? You spend 100's if not 1000's of dollars to help another guild win.

Ask yourself if they would actually be able to if you weren't helping them. If you are content always coming in second then please continue to do so.

If you think it's not cheating ask yourself if your favorite football, basketball or whatever team did that to help another team succeed, would you think it was cheating then? If it was your high school football coach that asked you not to give 100% so that someone else could BE BETTER THAN YOU, would you think that was cheating? Would you think it was right or fair?

There is no HONOR in winning if you have to cheat to win. And it doesn't matter if you come in 1st or 25th, if you have stripped your gear to let someone else get ahead, than you're a cheater and will never know your or your guilds full potential.

[Eunuchorn]

I would love if my Arby+ showed more cleavage.
:(

[adraff]

So what place did your guild come in? Second?

[Thunderkat]

Oh I forgot to mention, this is Soukies. Since you were so threatened by my i don't give a **** what you think comment that you I was locked out of my account. Guess what? I still don't give a **** what you think.

[C04dy]

Strip or not rr will always win. If there was no stripping at all it would be cheaper :)

[busteroaf]

Oh I forgot to mention, this is Soukies. Since you were so threatened by my i don't give a **** what you think comment that you I was locked out of my account. Guess what? I still don't give a **** what you think.

So do you people blindly think RR is the only guild that takes advantage of stripping? Do you watch the leaderboards during war? If you notice when guilds gain 1.4 million in one battle... That isn't against an active, rotating armor guild. It's against a stripped guild. Or ever see DPA climb 2 million in a battle at the beginning? Guess what? They strip too.

And clearly you don't see the benefits of stripping for other guilds, which all of the alliance guilds do. Giving away wins so other allies can gain points, get better positions in the rankings, better rewards.

Please get off your moral high horse. No one cares. Keep trying to say RR is the only one doing it when it's clear that EVERY OTHER top 10 guild takes advantage of it too.

Also, maybe it was your foul language that got you banned. Trust me, no one is scared of you.

[knightsanddraggings]

Almost all IOS top guilds strip. That is just the way it is, with leadership bonus points. On Android, there is still some stripping, but it is not quite as extreme. People usually find a weak commander and go to town. There is no point in pointing fingers, as everyone does it, so the only solution, is to ban unmaxed armors. That won't be happening.

[soukies]

So do you people blindly think RR is the only guild that takes advantage of stripping? Do you watch the leaderboards during war? If you notice when guilds gain 1.4 million in one battle... That isn't against an active, rotating armor guild. It's against a stripped guild. Or ever see DPA climb 2 million in a battle at the beginning? Guess what? They strip too.

And clearly you don't see the benefits of stripping for other guilds, which all of the alliance guilds do. Giving away wins so other allies can gain points, get better positions in the rankings, better rewards.

Please get off your moral high horse. No one cares. Keep trying to say RR is the only one doing it when it's clear that EVERY OTHER top 10 guild takes advantage of it too.

Also, maybe it was your foul language that got you banned. Trust me, no one is scared of you.

Are you stupid??? If I thought it was just RR why would I have said the guilds. With an S. meaning more than one. Let me guess, you're a stripper for RR to. Why don't you find some morals and go F*** yourself.

[Thunderkat]

So stripping is cool .doesnt affect gree but find a glitch that gets you ahead and you get BANNED!
Wow and moral high horse it just a average horse your just so low down you need to reach up to touch bottom(sorry it looked like a high horse to you bilbo)wasn't calling out RR was actually saying nice job . Then ER wanted to LIE and say stripped players didnt get you more points ! Really if not why do the strip ....to look cool get real !!!
And if no one cares why even post ???
Oh yeah because they do

[soukies]

So what place did your guild come in? Second?

That's kind of the point of the entire topic

[Noxation]

I would love if my Arby+ showed more cleavage.
:(

I think my PIMP Lady's moontide needs a chest opening. :(

[busteroaf]

Are you stupid??? If I thought it was just RR why would I have said the guilds. With an S. meaning more than one. Let me guess, you're a stripper for RR to. Why don't you find some morals and go F*** yourself.

You titled the post as "Strippers for RR". If you meant all the strippers that strip for ALL the guilds that use it, you would have named it so. But no, you wanted to call out RR instead.


So stripping is cool .doesnt affect gree but find a glitch that gets you ahead and you get BANNED!
Wow and moral high horse it just a average horse your just so low down you need to reach up to touch bottom(sorry it looked like a high horse to you bilbo)wasn't calling out RR was actually saying nice job . Then ER wanted to LIE and say stripped players didnt get you more points ! Really if not why do the strip ....to look cool get real !!!
And if no one cares why even post ???
Oh yeah because they do

The reason you get more points is because it's QUICKER, it has nothing to do with the armors. If you spend 45 seconds fighting, and potentially losing, vs 10 seconds on a guaranteed win, which do you think generates more points. Guilds don't get the points because a stripped GM gives more, it's because they can do 400 battles in a single matchup. Quantity over quality. When the goal is the most points... You figure it out.

[taylor1993]

Are you stupid??? If I thought it was just RR why would I have said the guilds. With an S. meaning more than one. Let me guess, you're a stripper for RR to. Why don't you find some morals and go F*** yourself.

Your lack of intelligence astounds me... Your thread title is "Strippers for RR". First off if you read the second line of buster's sig, you will start to see how dumb you sound. Secondly, how can using a game mechanic that gree has blatantly refused to fix be classified as cheating. You don't seem to realize we would LOVE if stripping was removed. It would mean cheaper epic+ armors for us. Next time you think about posting anything please do us all a favor and think about what your saying first.

[knightsanddraggings]

Gree loves stripping. It helps them make money faster.

[soukies]

I see that the lower intelligence crowd is in. My point is you are letting someone else win. I has nothing to do with Gree. They get their money either way. It has to do with players personally but if you are all happy l with giving up your win to someone else who am I to stop you. Fact is you are conceding to be losers, therefore you always will be.

[Sarvice]

Almost all IOS top guilds strip. That is just the way it is, with leadership bonus points. On Android, there is still some stripping, but it is not quite as extreme. People usually find a weak commander and go to town. There is no point in pointing fingers, as everyone does it, so the only solution, is to ban unmaxed armors. That won't be happening.

Fusionboosts are maxed, and a maxed basic armor is easy too..

[soukies]

You titled the post as "Strippers for RR". If you meant all the strippers that strip for ALL the guilds that use it, you would have named it so. But no, you wanted to call out RR instead.



The reason you get more points is because it's QUICKER, it has nothing to do with the armors. If you spend 45 seconds fighting, and potentially losing, vs 10 seconds on a guaranteed win, which do you think generates more points. Guilds don't get the points because a stripped GM gives more, it's because they can do 400 battles in a single matchup. Quantity over quality. When the goal is the most points... You figure it out.

The reason I called out RR is because dildobaggins was offended and rude today when I declined his offer to be a stepping stone. The thread is called strippers for RR because that is exactly who I was targeting, those guilds that strip for RR. Why would RR care. They get what they want, you hand it to them on a gold platter every war.

[knightsanddraggings]

I see that the lower intelligence crowd is in. My point is you are letting someone else win. I has nothing to do with Gree. They get their money either way. It has to do with players personally but if you are all happy l with giving up your win to someone else who am I to stop you. Fact is you are conceding to be losers, therefore you always will be.
There is strategy to stripping. When you strip, your, in this case, collation, gets helped out. This provides publicity, and gives members good armors, which helps the guild if somebody goes down to help another guild. Also, stripping is generally mutual. Both sides strip, so the weaker members have somebody to beat.

[Eunuchorn]

Going back & forth between two accounts? That's weird.

Guess what. I'm gonna go track down all the other threads about stripping & find when I posted about when I learned about stripping.

We had 12million points in Necro war when we heard of its existence. Well, I was on better terms with more top 250 guilds than any of the other bad azz top 10 contenders, so I started teaching others to do something that was being forced into the game just to try & beat RR, 1 time. 7 wars later, we are still here spreading the wealth while all top 25 guilds coordinate stripped GMs

You could say the thread title is more accurate than intended.

[gitimiridi]

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[Thunderkat]

not in the rules so ill take it down

[friskie]

im not clicking that

[adraff]

That's kind of the point of the entire topic

Oh.. Cause I mean if you weren't even top 10, no one really cares what you have to say...

[friskie]

private messages are private... isnt it against the rules?

[soukies]

There is strategy to stripping. When you strip, your, in this case, collation, gets helped out. This provides publicity, and gives members good armors, which helps the guild if somebody goes down to help another guild. Also, stripping is generally mutual. Both sides strip, so the weaker members have somebody to beat.

Would these guilds be able to win without their stepping stones? We will never know because RR has been allowed to win everything.

[soukies]

private messages are private... isnt it against the rules?

Rules??? Which set?

[adraff]

I see that the lower intelligence crowd is in. My point is you are letting someone else win. I has nothing to do with Gree. They get their money either way. It has to do with players personally but if you are all happy l with giving up your win to someone else who am I to stop you. Fact is you are conceding to be losers, therefore you always will be.

All I'm hearing is that you're butthurt b/c no one will strip for you. And with that attitude, can you really blame them(us)?

[Eunuchorn]

I don't really understand how top 25 guilds operate, but I personally don't know why they would need strips. The rewards are barely different. But if your guild wants to go for top 10 if ppl aren't willing to spend the gems, it doesn't matter how many strips you want. I personally had 300k points in BC war without farming a single stripped GM. I save for the unfriendly guilds or low activity matches/sleeping full geared GMs.


Would these guilds be able to win without their stepping stones? We will never know because RR has been allowed to win everything.

lol, been allowed? PM me on Line, I'll show you my $1200 iTunes balance.

[soukies]

Oh.. Cause I mean if you weren't even top 10, no one really cares what you have to say...

And if you weren't a cheater I might care what you think :)

[toogoodformyowngood]

lol. honestly.

Alot of nonsense in here. Just wanna clarify some things up.

1. RR doesnt win because of stripping, they win because they have the biggest gem spenders.
2. Even if stripping is gone, RR will continue to win because they have the biggest gem spenders.
3. If you wanna take RR down, easiest way is to get a sponsor and hire 40 farmers that will just gem 24/7. No sleep or play on shifts.
4. Removing stripping will probably bring down the points lower.
5. Doest not affect spending, as gems are always on a fixed price. Stripping on makes the points looks good. Kinda sucks tho cuz Android always comes out losing like noobs cuz we dont have win bonuses.
6. Maybe its a GREE strategy to make iOS players spend more. IDK.

Conclusion: Stripping has no impact on who actually wins.
What determines who wins is who spends the most during GW. Do not be deceived by the points.

lol, I don't get what's with all the hating on RR. If you can't beat them, join em :)

[toogoodformyowngood]

lol. honestly.

Alot of nonsense in here. Just wanna clarify some things up.

1. RR doesnt win because of stripping, they win because they have the biggest gem spenders.
2. Even if stripping is gone, RR will continue to win because they have the biggest gem spenders.
3. If you wanna take RR down, easiest way is to get a sponsor and hire 40 farmers that will just gem 24/7. No sleep or play on shifts.
4. Removing stripping will probably bring down the points lower.
5. Does not affect spending, as gems are always on a "fixed price". Stripping on makes the points looks good as they are just higher due to stripping. Kinda sucks tho cuz Android always comes out losing like noobs cuz we dont have win bonuses.
6. Maybe its a GREE strategy to make iOS players spend more. IDK.
7. Stripping is not cheating as define by the rules of the game. IF it was, but it clearly isn't GREE would have banned the whole of top 100 maybe, and we all know that ain't gonna happen.
8. Honor? lol, there is no skill involved in this game, so what honor are u talking about? Who can press the attack button more often. Sacrifice more gems and time on this game to win? lol, seriously.
9. Give RR a break, it's not easy running a no.1 guild. Player retention and getting great new players to replace retiring ones is difficult. Try running a no.1 guild yourself and you'll know what i'm talking about. Hate them for being rich or have more money that you? Why don't just play another game? Enuc might be a "jerk" at times but im sure that's cause he's just bored. He's probably A NICE guy IRL. Alot of trolls online. gotta take things with a pinch of salt.

Conclusion: Stripping has no impact on who actually wins.
What determines who wins is who spends the most during GW.
Do not be deceived by the points.

lol, I don't get what's with all the hating on RR. If you can't beat them, join em :)

[soukies]

To little to late.

[soukies]

What you are hearing is that i never asked and never would.

[friskie]

when i first read stripping whatever in that locked thread

first thought was you guys in a video chat removing clothes for memberships

[Eunuchorn]

To little to late.

Too little Too late.

[busteroaf]

Wow. Insulting people is so honorable too.

Again, I'm sure this is above your head, but the ones who strip, benefits both teams. Do you think rank 100 guilds could beat RR straight up? Not likely. Be allowed to farm the RR GM will get them more points than they would likely get straight up. That is just the facts. This mutually beneficial thing? Maybe you should look it up.

But until then, have fun having your honorable wars and see where that takes you. Most likely, placed behind everyone else who has friends in game and benefits from mutual strips.

[Thunderkat]

wow the open arm welcome with a problem! eggheads galore and if not in top 10 you don't matter.I love this form you can be the smartest person if you have no idea what your talking about.started as a congrats on the win to a F U because not in top ten or as smart as you.sorry about that so lets just call it the end of this for me .so big Eunuchorn sorry you didn't see it as a congarts on other post.wasnt calling you out was a RR fan but now you have shown me your true self THANKS .and I was thinking of trying out in the RR with my $3500 iTunes account .but you are rude know it all and a piece of work to say the least.so poop on the little guy but don't forget to wipe leaves a rainbow rash

[soukies]

Lol, it's my post. I can spell it however I want to. And honestly, I don't really care anymore. This game has become more frustration than fun. I can find better ways to spend my time and money.

[Eunuchorn]

NOPE join all the coalitions that strip for each other so they can get alot of points ! .so even if you spend 100 gems the strippers are spending 100 and getting triple if not quadruple the point off stripped players vs heads up battle.so faulty game NAH.just alot of unsporting guilds stripping for each other . So you can spend 1000 gems and never break the top 10 .unless you form a alliance with a stripper.



Wasnt really aiming at you just saying nice job.but since you pulled you pants down and bent over OK! You know as well as others stripped knights still have 3 ! I know you require 3 k gems at least.I also know I have been asked by RR members to strip during war.so if it is 1 knight you are correct but you know they still have three knights with bs armor on living flame and etc. . So why act like stripping and alliances are NEW to you? Was just saying you have to have another guild to boost off to reach top ten not you and RR suck ! So get you panties back out of a knot and enjoy the game



wow the open arm welcome with a problem! eggheads galore and if not in top 10 you don't matter.I love this form you can be the smartest person if you have no idea what your talking about.started as a congrats on the win to a F U because not in top ten or as smart as you.sorry about that so lets just call it the end of this for me .so big Eunuchorn sorry you didn't see it as a congarts on other post.wasnt calling you out was a RR fan but now you have shown me your true self THANKS .and I was thinking of trying out in the RR with my $3500 iTunes account .but you are rude know it all and a piece of work to say the least.so poop on the little guy but don't forget to wipe leaves a rainbow rash

I'm such a jerk, all this interaction we've had. I agree, it's cheating, which is why I said I don't farm them. Pretty sure I've been rather civil.

Thanks for the congratulations, despite it being smothered in cynicism & mockery. Take it up with Gree.

[friskie]

Lol, it's my post. I can spell it however I want to. And honestly, I don't really care anymore. This game has become more frustration than fun. I can find better ways to spend my time and money.
when i stop caring.. i stop posting..

[busteroaf]

Lol, it's my post. I can spell it however I want to. And honestly, I don't really care anymore. This game has become more frustration than fun. I can find better ways to spend my time and money.

Making multiple forum accounts this soon? Yeah. I'm sure you've got something better to do with your spare time.

Also, you won't be missed.

Pm me on line though if you want to exchange pleasantries.

[cafedecoy]

You can take this for what it's worth or leave:
If you are a guild that participated in stripping for the RR alliance ask yourself what benefit it is to you? You spend 100's if not 1000's of dollars to help another guild win.

Ask yourself if they would actually be able to if you weren't helping them. If you are content always coming in second then please continue to do so.

If you think it's not cheating ask yourself if your favorite football, basketball or whatever team did that to help another team succeed, would you think it was cheating then? If it was your high school football coach that asked you not to give 100% so that someone else could BE BETTER THAN YOU, would you think that was cheating? Would you think it was right or fair?

There is no HONOR in winning if you have to cheat to win. And it doesn't matter if you come in 1st or 25th, if you have stripped your gear to let someone else get ahead, than you're a cheater and will never know your or your guilds full potential.

I have one phrase to summarize this thread: "sore loser"

It's all just a part of the game folks :) try your best, beat it, have fun, accept your short comings.. try again next time!

[Thunderkat]

#21
Thunderkat
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Originally Posted by Kangaroeland
If you spend 1000 gems each and dont reach top10 your an idiot. Or does this refer to ios cause i have no knowledge of what goes on there
Ios RR had over 20 MILLION points

01-02-2014 02:16 PM #22
Eunuchorn

I'm boggled. Did Thunderkat really just say spend 100 gems on stripped GM for more points than 100 gems on unstripped GM?

Methinks someone doesn't understand basic game mechanics.

Thanks for the congratulations, despite it being smothered in cynicism & mockery.

You took the first shot dumbass .and its I think not methinks get it right .
The mockey was all you but I forgot your smarter than me and already know that just a reminder kiss my a z z

[Thunderkat]

Sore loser is a loose term you play the redwing by yourself and see if you have a shot ;)

[busteroaf]

Post count +2. Congrats ThunderKitty.


(Originally it said +1. I hit the button saying "Edit Post" and... edited it. See what I did there?)

[adraff]

wow the open arm welcome with a problem! eggheads galore and if not in top 10 you don't matter.I love this form you can be the smartest person if you have no idea what your talking about.started as a congrats on the win to a F U because not in top ten or as smart as you.sorry about that so lets just call it the end of this for me .so big Eunuchorn sorry you didn't see it as a congarts on other post.wasnt calling you out was a RR fan but now you have shown me your true self THANKS .and I was thinking of trying out in the RR with my $3500 iTunes account .but you are rude know it all and a piece of work to say the least.so poop on the little guy but don't forget to wipe leaves a rainbow rash

$3500 and you still can't get top 10? Hmmm, no wonder you are so butthurt

[furyp]

Just in case you haven't realized yet, RR is not a guild but it's more of a "brand" that was created for top spenders. Huge turnover in RR after every war because half of the players probably came from some other guilds who didn't belong in RR and wanted to return to their old guild after getting their epic+. I bet some people in RR such as theorycrafter, chef of rr or even the GM himself don't even contribute to the "minimum war points requirements" for every single war. Fact is they probably don't need to because they got people with gems who will take #1 for them.

In order to destroy RR, you have to destroy the brand, kill people's perception that RR will take #1 in every war. Make them realize that RR is nothing without these gem spenders; take these people, put them into a guild and watch RR crumbles.

[Derp]

Wow... I play android and I will say that I am glad. Not only are there crybabies on ios about stripping and cheating ect but people actually argue with the toddler having a tantrum!

Look, I have 2 boys. When they were just about out of diapers they started having tantrums too. I woyld just leave the room. They soon realized that having a pity party alone sucks so they thought a minute and followed me. I would just move again or put in some headphones. Tada... the tantrum stopped. No more tears and no more listening to it.

You are fuling a fire. Tantrum throwing is just a plea for attention and pity.

[toogoodformyowngood]

Just in case you haven't realized yet, RR is not a guild but it's more of a "brand" that was created for top spenders. Huge turnover in RR after every war because half of the players probably came from some other guilds who didn't belong in RR and wanted to return to their old guild after getting their epic+. I bet some people in RR such as theorycrafter, chef of rr or even the GM himself don't even contribute to the "minimum war points requirements" for every single war. Fact is they probably don't need to because they got people with gems who will take #1 for them.

In order to destroy RR, you have to destroy the brand, kill people's perception that RR will take #1 in every war. Make them realize that RR is nothing without these gem spenders; take these people, put them into a guild and watch RR crumbles.

lol. honestly? why so much hating on RR? i think DK or Majestic doesnt get this much hate on Android. If u want epic plus just join RR.

If you want to make your guild a top guild now, its really difficult to break status quo.

I honestly don't see a reason for all the hating on them.

Anyways about meeting minimums, some ppl are there just to organize the guild so maybe they dont have minimums, they pay with their time to organize the guild. I.e: recruitment. Organisation of members in a top guild is important. they dont just become no#1 over night. same goes for any top guild in ios or andriod.

If you honestly think its easy to run a top guild u shud really give it a try. It ain't easy.

[Derp]

Have any of you considered that it is CHEAPER to buy a huge amount of chests than to fight that hard and also, the chests sometimes have garanteed rewards too.

[friskie]

um... that sounds like a lot of fun!

[firefly333]

Have any of you considered that it is CHEAPER to buy a huge amount of chests than to fight that hard and also, the chests sometimes have garanteed rewards too.

Never saw that the guaranteed rewards for opening chests were worth as much as the epic plus I win for a war prize?? And Ive been playing for a while. Some guaranteed legendary at best and usually the only guarantee is some fusion boosts.

Never a guaranteed epic for opening chests.

[SomethingStrange]

Have you ever paid attention to what rank guilds you fight at any time? It is all over the place. My point is that even if stripping gets taken away, better guilds will still only farm easy opponents with garbage geared GMs.

Scores would drop some across the boards, but the same guilds will rank in the top few. Take a look at the leaderboard for each big war. It is normally the same 12-15 in the top spots. RR, DPA, Cent, SNL, etc. And many of these have been at the top for a long time, even before stripping became the standard. This isn't a coincidence.

[Eunuchorn]

Just in case you haven't realized yet, RR is not a guild but it's more of a "brand" that was created for top spenders. Huge turnover in RR after every war because half of the players probably came from some other guilds who didn't belong in RR and wanted to return to their old guild after getting their epic+. Rainbow is a brand, Rainbow Coalition(Rco) is an organization, & RR is a figurehead.
We have huge turnover for several reasons. 1) I allowed all nonspending, original members to stay for 3 wars; 2) Ppl quit the game; 3) We are under constant barrage of leeches & photoshoppers, who are ejected; 4) When guilds were first released we began the coalition immediately with 5 Rainbow Guilds. All these ppl you speak of coming & going are other Rco members who we choose to carry, pay their way, or RR members stepping down to spend $1-300 a war instead of $3-800. We have 4 guilds in top 10, & a total of 14 guilds, most of which are in top 50/100.
I bet some people in RR such as theorycrafter, chef of rr or even the GM himself don't even contribute to the "minimum war points requirements" for every single war. Fact is they probably don't need to because they got people with gems who will take #1 for them.I LoL'd at Chefs name! Where did you pick those 2 from?
Theorycrafter makes some amazing charts, is supposedly female, & a programmer. She could score 0 & be a permanent member of RR. Our minimum is 300k. This last war I scored 305k, my highest score to date was 967k, & in BC war our craziest member broke record 2million points. He would have ended war around #15 guild himself. 2mil is about $7,000. We had (14) members under the minimum. What's your guilds min?
In order to destroy RR, you have to destroy the brand, kill people's perception that RR will take #1 in every war. Make them realize that RR is nothing without these gem spenders; take these people, put them into a guild and watch RR crumbles.We are those gem spenders. The less Gree makes from war, the more LTQ content they will add. No one hates stripping more than us. It's boring. What's the point of 24/7 battle if you can do a 3-day war in 1 day? But crumble we shall! 1 good Xflare & bye bye refrigeration, running water, Internet, indoor heat, & nuclear cooling systems http://web.photodex.com/view/kp9xxxm4
Everyone, I beg you! Please stop voting.

[Dianish]

in BC war our craziest member broke record 2million points. He would have ended war around #15 guild himself. 2mil is about $7,000.

I doubt he was a legit player. 7.000 dollars is like 2½ monthly salary in Denmark. Did he found the password to hi's college fund or gem cheat? - Alot of early gem stackers never got banned because it was before Gree made it all serversided. Easy for them to rule the wars.

Besides, whats the point in buying you way to the top? I've never understood that :) .. Its like 2 guys who am about to fight and one of them pulls a gun and shoots the other one - Unfair fight and doesnt prove who's best/strongest.

I would rather fight than pull a gun. Guns are for weaklings ;)

[Eunuchorn]

You know more than 10 ppl make $100k+ a year? There is no IOS platform game with actual "strategy"

[template]

I doubt he was a legit player. 7.000 dollars is like 2½ monthly salary in Denmark. Did he found the password to hi's college fund or gem cheat? - Alot of early gem stackers never got banned because it was before Gree made it all serversided. Easy for them to rule the wars.


Really? Just because someone has a lot of disposable income, he is labelled a cheater?

One other thing: Do you know how much time you have to spend to get 2 million points in 2 days? So many people seem to think that gems automatically means points. You actually have to spend a lot of time in game to get that.

[template]

Dear Soukie

We understand Dildo got under your skin after your chat with him broke down. But I gotta say, you're not covering yourself in a lot of glory right now with your posts. Maybe you wanna take a step back and recover your composure first?

But, since you started this thread, let's make a few things clear:

a) RR would love to not have strip battles. It's incredibly boring and we also know that it plays into Gree's hands because we end up spending more gems. We would love to have the original battles where armor rotations played a big part and it was about scouting and reacting to changes on the enemies side. Some of the best fights we had in the previous wars were against our respected rivals who were prepared to fight, like DPA and Centurions, and while the scores were lower, it was hella lot more fun.

b) However, if everyone is going to strip, then the game dynamics have changed. It's no longer about the game itself, it's about the meta-game now and the alliances you are in and the people you know. To some extent, that is actually a different kind of fun for those of us who are involved in it. For those that aren't (whether by choice or not) or don't enjoy this, the fact is that it's here to stay. So you get to choose which way you want to go by. Some guilds are fiercely independent (hats off to you guys, you know who you are) and they have a ton of fun that way but they also recognise that it's going to be hard for them to break into the top 10.

c) If you're complaining about people stripping for RR, then you need to complain about those who strip for our rivals. It takes 2 sides to break the game in this case.

d) For those claiming that RR is filled with mercenaries, you have no idea what you are talking about :) You might want to check up a little more on which other guilds actually recruit temporary members for wars. Hint: It's not RR.

e) Please don't end up stripping for our rivals. It's going to make you look stupid.

[busteroaf]

Forgive them. They think stripped GMs also give more points than fully geared GMs. You know, 3-4 times the amount. And because clearly stripping us an unknown/unfixed glitch and he was clearly abusing it.

[Eunuchorn]

Actually, I personally wrote the code to allow stripping. It was in the locked thread I think.

[toogoodformyowngood]

Rainbow is a brand, Rainbow Coalition(Rco) is an organization, & RR is a figurehead.
We have huge turnover for several reasons. 1) I allowed all nonspending, original members to stay for 3 wars; 2) Ppl quit the game; 3) We are under constant barrage of leeches & photoshoppers, who are ejected; 4) When guilds were first released we began the coalition immediately with 5 Rainbow Guilds. All these ppl you speak of coming & going are other Rco members who we choose to carry, pay their way, or RR members stepping down to spend $1-300 a war instead of $3-800. We have 4 guilds in top 10, & a total of 14 guilds, most of which are in top 50/100. I LoL'd at Chefs name! Where did you pick those 2 from?
Theorycrafter makes some amazing charts, is supposedly female, & a programmer. She could score 0 & be a permanent member of RR. Our minimum is 300k. This last war I scored 305k, my highest score to date was 967k, & in BC war our craziest member broke record 2million points. He would have ended war around #15 guild himself. 2mil is about $7,000. We had (14) members under the minimum. What's your guilds min? We are those gem spenders. The less Gree makes from war, the more LTQ content they will add. No one hates stripping more than us. It's boring. What's the point of 24/7 battle if you can do a 3-day war in 1 day? But crumble we shall! 1 good Xflare & bye bye refrigeration, running water, Internet, indoor heat, & nuclear cooling systems http://web.photodex.com/view/kp9xxxm4
Everyone, I beg you! Please stop voting.

Hmm, 2 million @ 7k dollars? USD? I don't think so you probably got the computation wrong.

2 million in android points will 1.1 - 1.2 million on Android.

each 100k points on Android is roughly about 100 dollars (buying gems at full price of $100 USD per 800 gems).

1.2 million will equate to about 1.2k on full price of gems. but if there is like holiday discount = 40%.

maybe about 700-1k dollars the most with the black friday / christmas discount.

haha, even if its 7k. some people make 100k per month. lets nt talk about 1 year. so yea.

[Eunuchorn]

2mil = 15,000 gems. I was using no assumed discount, but we actually get up to 60% off most our gems.

Ooh you're right, excuse me! His total gem count was worth $7000. Dude still does VPN bless his heart. Lives 30min from me. Take my word for it: RR doesn't cheat. Never has despite popular misconception.

[toogoodformyowngood]

2mil = 15,000 gems. I was using no assumed discount, but we actually get up to 60% off most our gems.

Ooh you're right, excuse me! His total gem count was worth $7000. Dude still does VPN bless his heart. Lives 30min from me. Take my word for it: RR doesn't cheat. Never has despite popular misconception.

lol. i never said that RR cheats.

im sure you guys don't otherwise GREE would have banned RR?

just saying that it's cheaper than 7k USD.

and most ppl don't buy their gems at full price, in the US there is costco discounts for google wallet cards :/

haha we had a player in DK that did 1 mil pts too. 1m Android club. which is about 1.7-1.9 mil pts in ios.

[template]

lol. i never said that RR cheats.

im sure you guys don't otherwise GREE would have banned RR?

just saying that it's cheaper than 7k USD.

and most ppl don't buy their gems at full price, in the US there is costco discounts for google wallet cards :/

haha we had a player in DK that did 1 mil pts too. 1m Android club. which is about 1.7-1.9 mil pts in ios.

Yeah and some of us can't use iTunes cards at all, damn you Apple!

We should all hang out sometime! Swap war stories or something.

[Cyphre]

2mil = 15,000 gems. I was using no assumed discount, but we actually get up to 60% off most our gems.

Ooh you're right, excuse me! His total gem count was worth $7000. Dude still does VPN bless his heart. Lives 30min from me. Take my word for it: RR doesn't cheat. Never has despite popular misconception.

I dont know how you compute your numbers but if 800 gems is 100$, you get 56.000 gems for 7000$... I assume by total gem count you mean he has 56000 gems in his account and that is a lot but lets not kid our selves he has not paid that for them.

2 mio points with 40% ingame discount, farming videos through vpn, itunes gift card discount etc. is not above 1000$ in cost.

[friskie]

haha, even if its 7k. some people make 100k per month. lets nt talk about 1 year. so yea.

noo i dont believe that..

[Ruthless Monkey]

Most people on this forum realize GREE won't do anything to stop stripping because their revenues off of this game are quite healthy and growing steadily ($5 mil a month ago). The Knights and Dragons gaming community is partly to blame itself since we haven't done enough to force them to fix this broken game mechanic.



a) RR would love to not have strip battles. It's incredibly boring and we also know that it plays into Gree's hands because we end up spending more gems. We would love to have the original battles where armor rotations played a big part and it was about scouting and reacting to changes on the enemies side. Some of the best fights we had in the previous wars were against our respected rivals who were prepared to fight, like DPA and Centurions, and while the scores were lower, it was hella lot more fun.


Template, Eunuchorn, I believe you when you say that you don't like stripping. I would be incredibly bored too beating a stripped player over and over for 3 days straight. Not much intellectual challenge there. But obviously complaining about it on this forum has done nothing to change it. Maybe it is time to try a new approach. As a typical corporation, the surest way to make GREE take action is to hurt their bottom line, i.e., by not buying their gems. Rainbow coalition is the biggest group of gem spenders in the game (probably by far). A gem boycott for the next epic guild war by your coalition would make GREE notice. Maybe even enough to get the developers, IUGO, to fix the broken mechanic. I know I am suggesting a lot - Rainbow Room would miss out on that next Epic+ armor and your perfect streak of victories in epic wars would be broken. But maybe the cause is worth it. You might even be able to convince enough of your non-coalition allies to follow suit.

If it works, we get back a game that we love, with a true challenge every time we enter the battle arena. If it doesn't work, you can go back to the status quo. Personally, I don't think the status quo is sustainable. When a game becomes boring to play, eventually most people move on, regardless of how much time and money they have invested in it.

[knightsanddraggings]

I dont know how you compute your numbers but if 800 gems is 100$, you get 56.000 gems for 7000$... I assume by total gem count you mean he has 56000 gems in his account and that is a lot but lets not kid our selves he has not paid that for them.

2 mio points with 40% ingame discount, farming videos through vpn, itunes gift card discount etc. is not above 1000$ in cost.
Dude, you don't get it. Just because you don't buy gems, doesn't mean others don't. People in this game, gem because they get enjoyment out of it. I assume he has a very large payroll, so he can afford it. Just because someone is good, doesn't mean they cheat.

[Cyphre]

Dude, you don't get it. Just because you don't buy gems, doesn't mean others don't. People in this game, gem because they get enjoyment out of it. I assume he has a very large payroll, so he can afford it. Just because someone is good, doesn't mean they cheat.

Dude you obviously hold a grudge because i put you down like a rapid dog in another discussion, but if you want to go there instead of staying in your cave farming gold for others, here is my point: I know people use a lot of money on this game, but they are not stupid if they are a member of rainbow room. 15000 gems in retail price is about 1875$. If you buy them at 40% discount with itunes giftcards where you receive another 20% discount, its fair to say that the 2 mio points didnt cost more than 1000$. If your calculations says otherwise i understand why you "help" people farm gold for free!

[template]

@ruthless monkey: if everyone were prepared to do it, I'm sure something could be worked out. But it doesn't make sense that we need to be the ones that "suffer" in that sense.

Frankly, even if everyone did agree, who would police it? The moment any guild scored a score that was too high, the deal would be off and all hell would break loose.

The other thing to consider? We are posting this on a gree forum :) if they know it's just 1 war, why would they change anything? They know the spending will return at some point if it's an artificial stop for 1 war.

[Cyphre]

Dude, you don't get it. Just because you don't buy gems, doesn't mean others don't. People in this game, gem because they get enjoyment out of it. I assume he has a very large payroll, so he can afford it. Just because someone is good, doesn't mean they cheat.

Ps: I am sure he doesnt cheat, i am just stating he didnt pay 7000$ for the 56.000 gems

[ZERO_07]

I thought it was a show of complete arrogance, saying "we're the best but we'll throw a few fights to give a dog a bone"

[Ruthless Monkey]

@ruthless monkey: if everyone were prepared to do it, I'm sure something could be worked out. But it doesn't make sense that we need to be the ones that "suffer" in that sense.

Frankly, even if everyone did agree, who would police it? The moment any guild scored a score that was too high, the deal would be off and all hell would break loose.

The other thing to consider? We are posting this on a gree forum :) if they know it's just 1 war, why would they change anything? They know the spending will return at some point if it's an artificial stop for 1 war.

Template, I suggested the Rainbow Coalition take the leadership role on fighting for the change given your dominant position amongst the guilds. I know what I suggested would allow your opponents to win the next epic GW. It takes courage and some amount of "suffering" to step up and show leadership against something you believe is wrong.

I don't know whether 1 war would be enough to make GREE fix the broken game mechanic. Maybe it would have to continue until they fix it. Maybe your coalition can come up with a better approach than what I suggested. You guys have the alliances and the spenders. If anyone can force GREE to do something, it is your Coalition.

[busteroaf]

Why not ask the skittle stompers to boycott the next war too?

[Kangaroeland]

It seems OP is very mad over a phone game. I enjoyed this thread

[Sarn]

I am struggling to think of a way that gree could 'fix' this problem programmatically without adversely affecting other mechanics and tactics.

Limit swapping of armours during gw? Doing so would also remove the ability for players to legitimately swap their armours to counter attacks or to target other players armours.

Stop people wearing non maxed armours? What about new players who may not have a full compliment of maxed armours?

Use a combination of level and armours. Ie force all lvl 100+ Players to only use maxed armours. Easy to get around by having a lvl 99 player as your gm.

Also with enforcing maxed armours only the gm could simply wear maxed basic basic armor

In the end I think that this sort of thing will only cease if guilds stop doing it of their own accord - which is unlikely to ever happen.

[Eunuchorn]

They need to add parameters that will make farming fully geared knights worth exponentially more than stripped.

Ie:
SA bonus
Armor quality bonus
Enemy armor quality bonus
Dodge bonus
Surviving Knight bonus
Damage done bonus
Flat win rate bonus instead of 50%

Just off the top of my head

A full roster clear system would be pretty amazing actually & more "realistic" than spamming same enemy over & over. Would also cost a fortune in refills so Gree wins

[Sarn]

Good ideas eunuchorn. The scoring system currently seems to be somewhat random from what I have observed, so adding point bonuses and penalties would be great. In regards to the roster system, I have seen it mentioned a few times and would love to see it implemented.

[Tachy]

I would love if my Arby+ showed more cleavage.
:(

http://i.imgur.com/8g1BzXB.png


You're welcome

[knightsanddraggings]

They need to add parameters that will make farming fully geared knights worth exponentially more than stripped.

Ie:
SA bonus
Armor quality bonus
Enemy armor quality bonus
Dodge bonus
Surviving Knight bonus
Damage done bonus
Flat win rate bonus instead of 50%

Just off the top of my head

A full roster clear system would be pretty amazing actually & more "realistic" than spamming same enemy over & over. Would also cost a fortune in refills so Gree wins
In my opinion, I think points should be based soley on the rank of the enemy, and the quality of armors they have. This means, give different armors at different levels different point ratings. Then multiply it by a rank multiplier.
For example, you attack a high commander with 2 fusion boost armors. Each fusion boost armor gives 10 points, and since his is a high commander, multiply the points by 1.05. You would get 21 points. Then you attack a commander with 3 maxed epics, for instance mael, tect, and bronze chromatic. The base points for each armor are 125 for mael, 115 for tectonic, and 150 for bronze chromatic. Then you get 98 bonus points for each armor, since they are maxed, and have been leveled 98 times each. Since he is a commander, you would multiply it by 1 and get 684. Yes, you would get a lot more points, but if people were playing the way it was intended, everyone would be getting good points. It would also make it more beneficial playing good guilds.
Also, to prevent people cheating the system, if more than ten people in the guild you are facing are stripped, you get a flat 200 points for battle.

[Cyphre]

In my opinion, I think points should be based soley on the rank of the enemy, and the quality of armors they have. This means, give different armors at different levels different point ratings. Then multiply it by a rank multiplier.
For example, you attack a high commander with 2 fusion boost armors. Each fusion boost armor gives 10 points, and since his is a high commander, multiply the points by 1.05. You would get 21 points. Then you attack a commander with 3 maxed epics, for instance mael, tect, and bronze chromatic. The base points for each armor are 125 for mael, 115 for tectonic, and 150 for bronze chromatic. Then you get 98 bonus points for each armor, since they are maxed, and have been leveled 98 times each. Since he is a commander, you would multiply it by 1 and get 684. Yes, you would get a lot more points, but if people were playing the way it was intended, everyone would be getting good points. It would also make it more beneficial playing good guilds.
Also, to prevent people cheating the system, if more than ten people in the guild you are facing are stripped, you get a flat 200 points for battle.

Lol, what would be the point trying to get epics and max them if other guilds can take them down with their eb+ armors and get massive points?

[Eunuchorn]

Lol, what would be the point trying to get epics and max them if other guilds can take them down with their eb+ armors and get massive points?

It all comes down to element order & guild bonuses anyways.
Everything needs pros & cons to balance (use good armor, be worth more points)

-Armor * should absolutely have X amount points tied to it.
-HCs should get more points for killing GMs than GMvsGM
-Opposing team should get X points for enemy losses

[knightsanddraggings]

Lol, what would be the point trying to get epics and max them if other guilds can take them down with their eb+ armors and get massive points?
Armor rotating. Also, you can strip strategically if you are getting farmed.

[Sarah 101]

iOS is so much fantastic everyone is super funny ^_^

[shukai84]

yawnz.. what is wrong with strippers? I tink it is part of the strategy for guilds who want to fight for first second or third.. not happy then dun play lah..why so serious about it...

other guilds could be sponsored to play the game, what are you so annoyed by pp winning?

[Hai2yooo]

In my opinion, I think points should be based soley on the rank of the enemy, and the quality of armors they have. This means, give different armors at different levels different point ratings. Then multiply it by a rank multiplier.
For example, you attack a high commander with 2 fusion boost armors. Each fusion boost armor gives 10 points, and since his is a high commander, multiply the points by 1.05. You would get 21 points. Then you attack a commander with 3 maxed epics, for instance mael, tect, and bronze chromatic. The base points for each armor are 125 for mael, 115 for tectonic, and 150 for bronze chromatic. Then you get 98 bonus points for each armor, since they are maxed, and have been leveled 98 times each. Since he is a commander, you would multiply it by 1 and get 684. Yes, you would get a lot more points, but if people were playing the way it was intended, everyone would be getting good points. It would also make it more beneficial playing good guilds.
Also, to prevent people cheating the system, if more than ten people in the guild you are facing are stripped, you get a flat 200 points for battle.

this is a solid idea but the stripping aspect is still gonna be a problem. u mentioned "strategically stripping", well a gm can strip before they sleep so they dont give a lot of points when sleeping. i do like the point system u r suggesting tho. somehow stripping needs to be elimated entirely.

[soukies]

Dear Soukie

We understand Dildo got under your skin after your chat with him broke down. But I gotta say, you're not covering yourself in a lot of glory right now with your posts. Maybe you wanna take a step back and recover your composure first?

But, since you started this thread, let's make a few things clear:

a) RR would love to not have strip battles. It's incredibly boring and we also know that it plays into Gree's hands because we end up spending more gems. We would love to have the original battles where armor rotations played a big part and it was about scouting and reacting to changes on the enemies side. Some of the best fights we had in the previous wars were against our respected rivals who were prepared to fight, like DPA and Centurions, and while the scores were lower, it was hella lot more fun.

b) However, if everyone is going to strip, then the game dynamics have changed. It's no longer about the game itself, it's about the meta-game now and the alliances you are in and the people you know. To some extent, that is actually a different kind of fun for those of us who are involved in it. For those that aren't (whether by choice or not) or don't enjoy this, the fact is that it's here to stay. So you get to choose which way you want to go by. Some guilds are fiercely independent (hats off to you guys, you know who you are) and they have a ton of fun that way but they also recognise that it's going to be hard for them to break into the top 10.

c) If you're complaining about people stripping for RR, then you need to complain about those who strip for our rivals. It takes 2 sides to break the game in this case.

d) For those claiming that RR is filled with mercenaries, you have no idea what you are talking about :) You might want to check up a little more on which other guilds actually recruit temporary members for wars. Hint: It's not RR.

e) Please don't end up stripping for our rivals. It's going to make you look stupid.

I have already sent my apologies for my childish words and have no problem publicly apologizing for my harsh words but my main message remains the same. I see no pride or integrity in winning when someone else has let you win.

[friskie]

I see no pride or integrity when someone makes multiple accounts on an internet forum to agree with themselves on something they dont fully understand

[Eunuchorn]

I have already sent my apologies for my childish words and have no problem publicly apologizing for my harsh words but my main message remains the same. I see no pride or integrity in winning when someone else has let you win.

Pride & integrity went out the door the day the US fed reserve came into existence. Get off your high horse, you'll die as a slave like the rest of us. We don't get personal pride or self worth as the #1 guild, we get + armors & like I have been saying since BEFORE DPC CHEST EXISTED:

Go + or go home.

[template]

@ruthless monkey: like i said, your idea essentially is asking us to quit the game. That doesn't work.

Edit: also, can I say that us wanting 10 rainbow guilds in top 10 will allow us to achieve the aim you want? It essentially means that spending in wars can be controlled then which gives the players more leverage.

[soukies]

I don't have multiple accounts, I have friends. You should try living in the real world sometime.

[soukies]

You should try it sometime. The view from up here is much better and less chance of my horse sh**ing on me.

[Sarah 101]

We don't get personal pride or self worth as the #1 guild, we get + armors & like I have been saying since BEFORE DPC CHEST EXISTED:
Go + or go home.
Learn android learn ^_^ oh and don't be offended p:
Eun, slave idea is interesting , why you don't read more .? Can I recommend "book" ^_^

[friskie]

You should try living in the real world sometime.

LOL.. its cool i post there too

[Eunuchorn]

I've read far too many books, & lived in too many places, which is why I have such cynical view of the world.

[Sarah 101]

I am pretty sure that new things won't kill you ^_^ all you need is try to hear not to change your mind "smart guy like you won't be easy to change his mind & also won't be scared from book :)

[Sarah 101]

And nothing is must so you can ignore ;)

[Kangaroeland]

So the guy raging like a mad bull on an internet forum concerning a phone game tells other people to try living in the real world...

Im getting my popcorn!

[busteroaf]

"My internet personality is bigger than yours!"
No mine is.
"NO, MINE IS! And I live in the real world"
No, I live in the real world...
"Well I'm morally superior.."
And so on...

I swear I've heard this before. Anywho.

Also: Totally not shocked that this thread is still active.

Unintentional bump-a-roo

[Mr Spock]

Pride & integrity went out the door the day the US fed reserve came into existence. Get off your high horse, you'll die as a slave like the rest of us. We don't get personal pride or self worth as the #1 guild, we get + armors & like I have been saying since BEFORE DPC CHEST EXISTED:

Go + or go home.

Why do u need a + when there is never a reason to use it. I don't need a plus to kill a stripped GM. When you aren't fake fighting an alliance guild then no one is bothering to fight in general....I am missing the point of paying for an armor you don't need in the current system. I will say that the guild war is the best way for a poor man to get an epic though.. I don't get the bragging that you have actually achieved anything of import. My last guild war epic cost 96 bucks and I scored 11th in the guild my guild could of spent half of what they spent and still scored top 10. The RR could have spent half of what they did and still got the plus...

[Eunuchorn]

I don't farm stripped GMs, Spock.

[knightsanddraggings]

I don't farm stripped GMs, Spock.
You don't need them to strip :-D

[Mr Spock]

I don't farm stripped GMs, Spock.

Not talking to you the player I am talking to the statement of "go +or go home". I am saying having plus means nothing with the way the guild war is set up.

U don't use any of your plusses to fight..you strip for everyone including the nonRR guilds. You do this because u are bored and u don't care. When I was farming you your name was boRRed. Remember? I am trying to make a general point that going for a plus seems pointless. Epics in general are pointless but if u must have one, cuz they sparkle, the poor mans way to get one is the pointless guild war...

Please don't take it personal you didn't make the rules...GREE did. By the way K&D dropped 14 more places in overall gross revenue compared to last month. It now makes less then 12k a day. It's just dying.... It is this fact that I hope will cause Gree to change the faulty guild war business model.

[The Pale Rider]

Please don't take it personal you didn't make the rules...GREE did. By the way K&D dropped 14 more places in overall gross revenue compared to last month. It now makes less then 12k a day. It's just dying.... It is this fact that I hope will cause Gree to change the faulty guild war business model.

Where are you reading this statistic? Please post a link. 12K/day is seems awfully low. I imagine their income varies based on events (new chests, GWs, sales, etc.) is that an average or a snapshot?

[The Pale Rider]

I just read the synopsis of GREE's Q3 earnings report and the one bright spot was the Funzio line of games overseas growth (i.e. outside Japan). It more than doubled.

[tnorman78]

Just to fore warn everyone. I play another gree game also and we all complained about needing new content and now we have had it for the last three months it's too much. There is never any down time..There is ALWAYS a event going. Be careful what u ask for.

[loophole]

i don't blow 1000's on a pixelated game.. i'm here for the enjoyment of it in a casual but serious manner.. but when it comes down to it.. i agree with op.. but the sad fact is.. this is digital.... people will cheat whichever way they can... sad.. but TRUE

[busteroaf]

I play the same amount as always.. I used to score 250 to 500 now it is 5000 to 10000. I figure the better setup must be drawing more people to pay a little bit for gems which helps with the health of the game in general.


Not talking to you the player I am talking to the statement of "go +or go home". I am saying having plus means nothing with the way the guild war is set up.

U don't use any of your plusses to fight..you strip for everyone including the nonRR guilds. You do this because u are bored and u don't care. When I was farming you your name was boRRed. Remember? I am trying to make a general point that going for a plus seems pointless. Epics in general are pointless but if u must have one, cuz they sparkle, the poor mans way to get one is the pointless guild war...

Please don't take it personal you didn't make the rules...GREE did. By the way K&D dropped 14 more places in overall gross revenue compared to last month. It now makes less then 12k a day. It's just dying.... It is this fact that I hope will cause Gree to change the faulty guild war business model.

So which is it Spock? Healthy or dying? I can't decide which you think it is. Also, please let us know where you get these "facts" you spew, er type out. If it is drawing more people to pay a little, but still losing revenue... does that mean that the whales are finally getting fed up? I would think the fact there is a few threads on the forum referencing account selling means that it has.

As to going for plus being pointless... and then saying that even epics are pointless in GW, why did you jump from your main guild to Cents for a fight, when all Cents did is fight strip battles themselves? Same reasoning to fight for 2nd or 3rd when you get essentially the same rewards as the guild that places 10th. Why bother? Someone wanted the sparkly I guess.

[toogoodformyowngood]

lol. why plus. cuz no armor has higher stats than epic plus.

3 epic plus + guild bonus + rank bonus = win all the time. :p

you don't need them. ofc. u are right but people still want them.

u dont need a ferrari, bmw, porsche etc. but u still want them.

same logic.

its not a need its a want. lol

[Mr Spock]

Where are you reading this statistic? Please post a link. 12K/day is seems awfully low. I imagine their income varies based on events (new chests, GWs, sales, etc.) is that an average or a snapshot?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/28/iphone-apps-need-to-earn-47k-per-day-to-crack-app-stores-top-10-grossing
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/gros/?device=iphone

The first one says that number 50 is about 12k per day. The second one shows K&D down 10 spots to 61 the month before it was -4 spots. I have not spent any time looking at this PALE RIDER but it appears to be a ranking based on gross revenue. If u get better insight let me know.

[Mr Spock]

So which is it Spock? Healthy or dying? I can't decide which you think it is. Also, please let us know where you get these "facts" you spew, er type out. If it is drawing more people to pay a little, but still losing revenue... does that mean that the whales are finally getting fed up? I would think the fact there is a few threads on the forum referencing account selling means that it has.

As to going for plus being pointless... and then saying that even epics are pointless in GW, why did you jump from your main guild to Cents for a fight, when all Cents did is fight strip battles themselves? Same reasoning to fight for 2nd or 3rd when you get essentially the same rewards as the guild that places 10th. Why bother? Someone wanted the sparkly I guess.

The arena game is helping. The GW is hurting it. The two statements can coexist. You are correct in that I like the sparkly ones and they are cheap in the guild wars as I said. I can't see needing them to fight anyone since no one does during the guild war in the top 10 or so guilds... Did u have a serious knock down drag out battle? We didn't including our fight with u. U guys were not interested in fighting.

There is no competition.... it's just about spending gems with a group of guys to get the sparkly armor which is cool. The epic + doesn't sparkle any brighter so who cares?...Make the GW a competition and then it will get really fun!

[toogoodformyowngood]

The arena game is helping. The GW is hurting it. The two statements can coexist. You are correct in that I like the sparkly ones and they are cheap in the guild wars as I said. I can't see needing them to fight anyone since no one does during the guild war in the top 10 or so guilds... Did u have a serious knock down drag out battle? We didn't including our fight with u. U guys were not interested in fighting.

There is no competition.... it's just about spending gems with a group of guys to get the sparkly armor which is cool. The epic + doesn't sparkle any brighter so who cares?...Make the GW a competition and then it will get really fun!

lol. its about the stats. not just the sparkle.

some ppl do care, actually alot do. if it sparkles but its weak. its no use.

boils down to the stats in the end and the elements.

Please read, its NOT a need. it's a WANT!

lol, i just think that the GW points shud be more interesting. and not just purely random.

i.e: armors, level and rank etc. and if u want a small random factor.

[The Pale Rider]

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/28/iphone-apps-need-to-earn-47k-per-day-to-crack-app-stores-top-10-grossing
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/gros/?device=iphone

The first one says that number 50 is about 12k per day. The second one shows K&D down 10 spots to 61 the month before it was -4 spots. I have not spent any time looking at this PALE RIDER but it appears to be a ranking based on gross revenue. If u get better insight let me know.

Thanks for posting. Looks just like you described. $12K per day through iOS. Wonder how much is generated by gemming during GWs. So we have a GW 3 days out of every 14 or 21.4% of the time. The top 15 guilds score between 35 and 45 million per day during a GW. There's a guy who usually posts a spreadsheet with an estimated breakdown of cash spent I just can't find it. Would be interesting to settle the question of how much of GREE's direct revenue comes from top guild GW spending. It could also be fairly easily extrapolated to include the top 50 guilds.

[Vakko]

Looked at the thread title and expected something completely different. Gotta say, I'm a little bit disappointed. ;)

[friskie]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4455788481_84ba4cd717_m.jpg


better?

[jon_funzio]

Very misleading thread title - if RR were offering strippers to all members, then I'm sure that there would be even more Rainbow guilds. Hell, I'd be there; spend the same, but with added benefits.

[Vakko]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2760/4455788481_84ba4cd717_m.jpg


better?

THAT'S the stuff!

:D

[toogoodformyowngood]

THAT'S the stuff!

:D

nias very nias