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Muj
12-23-2013, 02:41 PM
I got my NCs to L5, I need opinions on what to upgrade next

I got
2 Pagodas @ L3
2 WSFGs @ L1
2 NIS @ L1
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& right now 200mil on hand, what should I upgrade next? Opinions?


P.S. other ppl with economy questions can ask here too

Mr. R
12-23-2013, 02:46 PM
Pagoda ......

CCKallDAY
12-23-2013, 02:55 PM
I got my NCs to L5, I need opinions on what to upgrade next

I got
2 Pagodas @ L3
2 WSFGs @ L1
2 NIS @ L1
--
& right now 200mil on hand, what should I upgrade next? Opinions?



P.S. other ppl with economy questions can ask here tooPagoda!

xtras

CCKallDAY
12-23-2013, 03:00 PM
What should I upgrade next:

1 Pagoda to level 7
2 Gentleman's Clubs to level 5 and 4

mxz
12-23-2013, 03:07 PM
Pagoda. Its Type A.

jmeijer
12-23-2013, 03:14 PM
What should I upgrade next:

1 Pagoda to level 7
2 Gentleman's Clubs to level 5 and 4
Pagoda. You can see this in the following screenshot:
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8201/31ca.png
This is calculated with -30% upgrade costs and +41% payout mod. I can give you the numbers with other payout mods too, if this isn't right for you.

The pagoda has a very short upgrade time when you compare it to the Gentleman's Clubs. Hourly gain means the IPH increase you get, the Pagoda gets you more IPH increase than the two GC upgrades combined.

I will answer Muj's question in a moment.

jmeijer
12-23-2013, 03:28 PM
I got my NCs to L5, I need opinions on what to upgrade next

I got
2 Pagodas @ L3
2 WSFGs @ L1
2 NIS @ L1
--
& right now 200mil on hand, what should I upgrade next? Opinions?
NIS. Based on the following screenshot:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1811/pk3k.png
The site didn't give me an upgrade planner for the WSFG. I have to talk to the maker of the site. But the NIS upgrade is better than the Pagoda in my eyes, because its build time and hourly gain is better.


Pagoda. Its Type A.
Type A is overrated imo. It's all about payout/hr at level 10, that decides if the building is good for me. For instance, look at this screenshot:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4524/b7jx.png
I compared the Transtech with the Pagoda here. As you can see, the payout/hr is almost the same at level 10. The Transtech is a better building by far, because it is Type B - which means: its base value (payout at level 1) is way higher and will help you more in the earlier stages. I didn't include the upgrade costs - everyone will probably upgrade the Pagoda earlier because it's cheaper. But this is just to show you that the Transtech is a better building in my eyes.

CCKallDAY
12-23-2013, 03:33 PM
Pagoda. You can see this in the following screenshot:
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8201/31ca.png
This is calculated with -30% upgrade costs and +41% payout mod. I can give you the numbers with other payout mods too, if this isn't right for you.

The pagoda has a very short upgrade time when you compare it to the Gentleman's Clubs. Hourly gain means the IPH increase you get, the Pagoda gets you more IPH increase than the two GC upgrades combined.

I will answer Muj's question in a moment.Hey jmeijer, can you show me the one with +51% payout mod? -30% upgrade cost staying the same plz. Thanks!

jmeijer
12-23-2013, 03:36 PM
Hey jmeijer, can you show me the one with +51% payout mod? -30% upgrade cost staying the same plz. Thanks!Yep. Here you go:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4880/6be3.png

Lab5394
12-23-2013, 04:00 PM
What should I upgrade? Loft to level 2 or movie theater to level 5
Edit: also what is type a/b buildings I see people talking about them all the time

TMI
12-23-2013, 04:14 PM
What did I tell you guys about listening to the guy with 25 mil iph!!

:D

Vinnie2345
12-23-2013, 04:35 PM
What should I upgrade? Loft to level 2 or movie theater to level 5
Edit: also what is type a/b buildings I see people talking about them all the time
Upgrade loft if you have the money

you lee
12-23-2013, 08:28 PM
NIS. Based on the following screenshot:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1811/pk3k.png
The site didn't give me an upgrade planner for the WSFG. I have to talk to the maker of the site. But the NIS upgrade is better than the Pagoda in my eyes, because its build time and hourly gain is better.


Type A is overrated imo. It's all about payout/hr at level 10, that decides if the building is good for me. For instance, look at this screenshot:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4524/b7jx.png
I compared the Transtech with the Pagoda here. As you can see, the payout/hr is almost the same at level 10. The Transtech is a better building by far, because it is Type B - which means: its base value (payout at level 1) is way higher and will help you more in the earlier stages. I didn't include the upgrade costs - everyone will probably upgrade the Pagoda earlier because it's cheaper. But this is just to show you that the Transtech is a better building in my eyes.


what about casino?
can you give the list for building with type A,

Thx

Muj
12-24-2013, 01:41 AM
NIS. Based on the following screenshot:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1811/pk3k.png
The site didn't give me an upgrade planner for the WSFG. I have to talk to the maker of the site. But the NIS upgrade is better than the Pagoda in my eyes, because its build time and hourly gain is better.


Type A is overrated imo. It's all about payout/hr at level 10, that decides if the building is good for me. For instance, look at this screenshot:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4524/b7jx.png
I compared the Transtech with the Pagoda here. As you can see, the payout/hr is almost the same at level 10. The Transtech is a better building by far, because it is Type B - which means: its base value (payout at level 1) is way higher and will help you more in the earlier stages. I didn't include the upgrade costs - everyone will probably upgrade the Pagoda earlier because it's cheaper. But this is just to show you that the Transtech is a better building in my eyes.
Thanks for that :) upgrading my NIS now, should I continue to upgrade them after upgrading to L2?

Muj
12-31-2013, 02:44 PM
bump

I got my NCs to L5, I need opinions on what to upgrade next
2 Pagodas @ L3
2 WSFGs @ L1
2 NIS @ L1
--

P.S. other ppl with economy questions can ask here too
2 Pagodas @ L5 (just started upgrade for the 2nd one)
2 NIS @L2
2 WSFG @L1

&10m on hand :) gone up by few 100k IPH

OmgMileyCyrus
01-01-2014, 10:59 AM
What should I upgrade next?
NC level 5x2
Slay belles level 1 and level 7 ( would need to save for upgrade to 8)
Condos level 1
Hotels level 1
Bloody barbershop level 1
To dye for design level 1
Smoke fowl deli level 1
Credit agency level 1

CCKallDAY
01-01-2014, 11:07 AM
what should i upgrade next?
Nc level 5x2
slay belles level 1 and level 7 ( would need to save for upgrade to 8)
condos level 1
hotels level 1
bloody barbershop level 1
to dye for design level 1
smoke fowl deli level 1
credit agency level 1nc .

CCKallDAY
01-01-2014, 11:10 AM
1 NC to level 3
1 NIS to level 3
1 Shiner's Still to level 3
1 WSFG to level 2
1 Transtech to level 2
2 Office Buildings to level 3

Muj
01-02-2014, 04:41 AM
I just saw the IPH increase for the Slay Belles, and now wondering if I should build another one (and maybe start upgrading)?
I have just one at L1, thought it would be better to concentrate on other LTBs and my NCs.

bravo 6 vk
01-02-2014, 04:56 AM
2 NC level 3
1 Slay Bellles level 2
2 Hotels level 2
2 Condos level 3

What should I upgrade next? I was thinking of saving for next LTB as I've gotten NC's to level 3....

Munch on it
01-02-2014, 05:11 AM
Yep. Here you go:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4880/6be3.png

How come my level 6 pagoda only pays 7,972,800 when I have +51% output? In your pic it says the previous level should pay 8,770,080.
Must be all the glitching I do.

Not to worry it's because I'm not a tycoon or a goodfella

Archee
01-02-2014, 05:18 AM
http://crimecityios.wikia.com/wiki/Money_Buildings

CCKallDAY
01-02-2014, 05:54 AM
http://crimecityios.wikia.com/wiki/Money_BuildingsHi archee.... those don't have the modifiers on them and most people have a lot of modifiers and different ones so that isn't accurate.

LtotheG
01-02-2014, 06:00 AM
Why do you only look at building payout/hr at lvl 10?

Isn't the moste important thing the ROI of a building? (and if its not, why not :p)
Isn't it about the balance between the base income and the upgradecost during all upgrades?
It takes 6x longer to earn your money back of the transtech building (compare to a pagoda).
Its the same upgrade time and nearly same pay-out/hr.

I suggest nightclub and pagoda first to lvl 6
after that focus on LTB buildings witch you collect the most without getting robbed (and give the highest ICH), or save the money for the new LTB and upgrade less expensive buildings (depends on your ICH).

vtwin
01-02-2014, 09:12 AM
Sell them all. In game cash is worthless. Rob all you need to upgrade LTB, who cares about collection times and IPH, it's 2014. plus it an added bonus with all the fan mail you get on your wall, best part of game making people mad about pixel money

murf
01-02-2014, 12:21 PM
Sell them all. In game cash is worthless. Rob all you need to upgrade LTB, who cares about collection times and IPH, it's 2014. plus it an added bonus with all the fan mail you get on your wall, best part of game making people mad about pixel money

Great advice if you want to spend all day searching for hoods to rob.

I'll take my 166k raw attack stats from the current LTBs prizes from just collecting my buildings and not having to spend hours every day searching dozens of hoods (like yours) to finally find one good enough to rob.

bigwillie83642
01-02-2014, 12:24 PM
I just wish I had enough dough to get the No Interest Savings when it was the LTB.

murf
01-02-2014, 12:25 PM
Why do you only look at building payout/hr at lvl 10?

Isn't the moste important thing the ROI of a building? (and if its not, why not :p)
Isn't it about the balance between the base income and the upgradecost during all upgrades?
It takes 6x longer to earn your money back of the transtech building (compare to a pagoda).
Its the same upgrade time and nearly same pay-out/hr.

I suggest nightclub and pagoda first to lvl 6
after that focus on LTB buildings witch you collect the most without getting robbed (and give the highest ICH), or save the money for the new LTB and upgrade less expensive buildings (depends on your ICH).

LtotheG, I seem to be one of the few people who agree with you that it's almost all about ROI (within reason, don't choose a Pizza Parlor over a Nightclub because of ROI). At some point (I'm starting to hit it now), your income becomes so high that dIPH/upgrade time starts to weigh heavily on the decision as to which is a better upgrade. But even with my $23m IPH, I still value ROI greatly.

tfletcher20
01-02-2014, 12:54 PM
Upgrade what you can collect.

Respect to some of the formulas but if you go off of them don't forget to subtract whatever % of the time they get robbed. I know that my nightclubs will only collect between 2-3 times a day, my 12 hours are about 90% and my 24 are 99% that being said my pagodas are already10 and my nightclubs are 7. My 20 hour buildings once robbed I wait and collect right before I go to bed, my 26 hour once robbed I collect as soon as I wake up. All other times are freebies for people to rob if I don't stay on top of collection times.

Upgrade what you can collect.

CCKallDAY
01-02-2014, 01:07 PM
Why do you only look at building payout/hr at lvl 10?

Isn't the moste important thing the ROI of a building? (and if its not, why not :p)
Isn't it about the balance between the base income and the upgradecost during all upgrades?
It takes 6x longer to earn your money back of the transtech building (compare to a pagoda).
Its the same upgrade time and nearly same pay-out/hr.

I suggest nightclub and pagoda first to lvl 6
after that focus on LTB buildings witch you collect the most without getting robbed (and give the highest ICH), or save the money for the new LTB and upgrade less expensive buildings (depends on your ICH).Um... maybe he focuses on d/IPHt?

Muj
01-02-2014, 02:07 PM
Upgrade what you can collect.

Respect to some of the formulas but if you go off of them don't forget to subtract whatever % of the time they get robbed. I know that my nightclubs will only collect between 2-3 times a day, my 12 hours are about 90% and my 24 are 99% that being said my pagodas are already10 and my nightclubs are 7. My 20 hour buildings once robbed I wait and collect right before I go to bed, my 26 hour once robbed I collect as soon as I wake up. All other times are freebies for people to rob if I don't stay on top of collection times.

Upgrade what you can collect.
Unchain your mind!
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Still wondering if spending 60m for another Slay Belles is a good idea..

jmeijer
01-02-2014, 03:36 PM
Why do you only look at building payout/hr at lvl 10?

Isn't the moste important thing the ROI of a building? (and if its not, why not :p)
Isn't it about the balance between the base income and the upgradecost during all upgrades?
It takes 6x longer to earn your money back of the transtech building (compare to a pagoda).
Its the same upgrade time and nearly same pay-out/hr.
I look at the true potential of a building, because if it's good it will eventually be level 10. I don't look at ROI myself, because you don't upgrade a building based on the output of only that building. ROI of one building is useless in my eyes. For instance, my ROI for a level 10 Slay Belles is 4-5 days, based on my total income, mods and how much I can collect per day. For you, it's different: might be longer or shorter based on your mods, IPH and how much you collect or rob.

I'm not saying that ROI is useless at all, it's still very valuable, but only if you plan to use a few save upgrades before doing a very big one (like NC or WSFG).

OmgMileyCyrus
01-02-2014, 04:16 PM
I look at the true potential of a building, because if it's good it will eventually be level 10. I don't look at ROI myself, because you don't upgrade a building based on the output of only that building. ROI of one building is useless in my eyes. For instance, my ROI for a level 10 Slay Belles is 4-5 days, based on my total income, mods and how much I can collect per day. For you, it's different: might be longer or shorter based on your mods, IPH and how much you collect or rob.

I'm not saying that ROI is useless at all, it's still very valuable, but only if you plan to use a few save upgrades before doing a very big one (like NC or WSFG).you're like the BigMoney of income building^^. Very informative and helpful. No wonder you're 25m iph

LtotheG
01-03-2014, 06:12 AM
Get your point now Jmeijer, i makes a big difference that my ICH is 1,2 mil..
Started the game later then moste of you, so my first LTB i builded is a big top burlesque..

But i still dont get the point why you should upgrade a transtech till lvl 10, an upgrade form 9 to 10 cost you 5 jaar to earn is back.

What should you do from my point of view? is it good to upgrade de nightclub untill they are at least lvl 6? (current lvl 4) then what? after NC only focus on LTB's?

just figure out the fasteste why to rise my ICH..

Muj
01-12-2014, 08:03 AM
Debating whether to do NCs to 6 after the LTB, WSFGs to 2 or Pagodas to 6...

Grunge
01-12-2014, 11:03 AM
wondering what software those screenshots are from... is it a webpage?

nico valentino
01-12-2014, 11:05 AM
Ltb... Prizes are nice