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Jokidoki
12-23-2013, 01:06 PM
Wtf i prestage a lot off hollyday targets.
Gree reset all targets.
I want my money back.

Web323
12-23-2013, 01:08 PM
Welcome to Gree

Jokidoki
12-23-2013, 01:14 PM
Gree sucks i play fair with no hacking or somethig like that .
6 days off playing a fair game and the punnish you to play fair.
They resset targets they realy suck (**** you gree)

Cook Russ
12-23-2013, 01:20 PM
Mine were not reset, are you Andriod or iOS?

free play
12-23-2013, 01:21 PM
mine where still there, but one of our faction said they have been reset, I just checked the other targets I prestaged and still ok, I did have normal done within 10 minutes of starting. feel for ye guys, just hope they don't start that tactic or it will be the last straw for me, we may get a couple of days to prestage a few of many targets.

Jokidoki
12-23-2013, 01:31 PM
I'm playing on ios.
Gree hates fair players they only like's hackers and gold players.

SPWD
12-23-2013, 01:51 PM
I don't think they like anybody to be honest!

Mastert55!
12-23-2013, 02:25 PM
So that pretty much sums it up. I have completely, utterly lost any faith whatsoever in Gree.

LosKevanos
12-23-2013, 02:34 PM
If we didn't learn from the first time they burned us on prestaging the temporary npc targets, then it goes to say we enjoy the masochistic singe of continual defeat... I tell everyone to prestage at your own risk, we can only assume these targets they upload in data packs prior to events will be there for us when and if the event starts... Can't even get clear direction anymore whether a LTQ is going to be faction event or not, irregardless of what it says in their posted schedule and medal event info menu. Essentially if you feel you can trust Gree, then you haven't played this game long enough... If you'd like to see the veteran scars, I'm sure many of us will be happy to show you and advise you. We play with fire and expect to be burned, yet we continue to support their poor corporate habits and suck em dry agenda through our continued patronage and investment... My mother would be the first to say that she has no sympathy for me in this situation nor would could should I expect any. It's time to be more wise... If you want to prestage safely... The map targets continue to be a safe place to do so and as evidenced in recent base capture LTQ, a worthwhile investment... If you prestage the bosses/major energy targets of the last maps, you'll find it is a nice way to get a nice boost of cash for LE building purchases and upgrades without being over vaulted for long periods... Especially if you were able to rack up some of the last epic boss humvee's that gave you mission cash bonus modifiers. I'm sorry your targets were reset, it sucks, but to be expected... There is no degree gree won't go to in order to get as much from you as they can... Every advantage you think you can get will only last for the moment until they figure it out and level the playing field in order to stack the odds in their favor... This is a virtual casino where you will not win unless you refuse to spend the commodities of gold and time. Las Vegas can be fun as a non gambling tourist, right?

Adm.J
12-23-2013, 02:42 PM
4 accounts spread across ios and android - nothing reset here. Sucks that it happened to you, but I do not believe it is a deliberate tactic on grees part. Prestaging is always done at your own risk.

Fwob
12-23-2013, 02:47 PM
I'm on iOS no problem.
Maybe just SOL

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?77749-Happy-Holidays-from-the-NPCs/page6

" Lots of great information here!

Just remember that the ability to pre-stage areas for events is not intentionally designed into the game. If the server gets reset for any reason, your pre-staging will be lost. " - GEMH

Jokidoki
12-23-2013, 03:46 PM
Prestage or not when you hit a target it must be on to finish it
I played lots of games but when you do a mission you can finish it at all times.
Thats the game , start a mission and when youre out of ammo log out wait to you get enouge ammo to finish a target.
Prestage at own risk is bull****.
When a game maker pulls in targets its not fair to resset it when they think its nessesary.

SR9c
12-23-2013, 04:08 PM
They have stated that they dont support prestaging. They dont actively reset targets, but if they do, then they do. It sucks when it happens, but they said it could. Prestage at your own risk.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
12-23-2013, 04:48 PM
They have stated that they dont support prestaging. They dont actively reset targets, but if they do, then they do. It sucks when it happens, but they said it could. Prestage at your own risk.

Just because someone says something, or it is said often enough, does not make it right or truth.

Yes, they have encouraged it in a previous thread.

Pre-staging is like any other part of the game now.

SR9c
12-23-2013, 07:58 PM
Just because someone says something, or it is said often enough, does not make it right or truth.

Yes, they have encouraged it in a previous thread.

Pre-staging is like any other part of the game now.

That being said, then are all the glitches and screw ups just a part of the game as well?

Esohceekayes
12-23-2013, 09:34 PM
They have stated that they dont support prestaging. They dont actively reset targets, but if they do, then they do. It sucks when it happens, but they said it could. Prestage at your own risk.

Because, you know, NO ONE prestages targets for use when they need to make some money quickly while over vault. No one.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
12-24-2013, 12:15 AM
That being said, then are all the glitches and screw ups just a part of the game as well?

The logic doesn't follow, but nonetheless if an issue happens where something gets reset or isn't received or doesn't work correctly then the process is to send in a ticket.

mreilly
12-24-2013, 01:33 AM
i had a bunch of targets get reset as well.. im also on ios.

Fortunately i didn't do a **** load as ive been pretty busy with christmas\family.

crazeejay
12-24-2013, 05:35 AM
Get the box of kleenex. Nobody cares!

Tito89
12-24-2013, 06:02 AM
I don't see y I'm surprised to see ppl complaining, this has happened before. I've never had it happen to me, might just be the device memory. I've had my game crash when prestaging a target in cc and when the event kick started, that target was reset. Who knows y this happens but I give gree the benefit of the doubt and say its not them.

LosKevanos
12-24-2013, 07:28 AM
There will be no gree compensation for the resetting of prestaged targets... It is not part of the game and as such gree will not support it, in fact their efforts have been to eliminate prestaging altogether to level the play field in their advantage so you spend more gold in the end... Prestaging represents a substantial loss of revenue. Again, prestage at your own risk and if memory of the device has anything to do with it, remember to shut down your device periodically to clear the temporary memory caches to give you more room to save the prestaged data.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
12-24-2013, 12:37 PM
There will be no gree compensation for the resetting of prestaged targets... It is not part of the game and as such gree will not support it, in fact their efforts have been to eliminate prestaging altogether to level the play field in their advantage so you spend more gold in the end... Prestaging represents a substantial loss of revenue. Again, prestage at your own risk and if memory of the device has anything to do with it, remember to shut down your device periodically to clear the temporary memory caches to give you more room to save the prestaged data.

Thats sounds formal LK, Do you have that from Gree, or is that your assumption.

whitefire
12-24-2013, 12:42 PM
I believe that one of the mods (queen pin or something) said the same in different wording verh recently: do it at your own peril.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
12-24-2013, 11:49 PM
Read the 7th post in the link below. Encouraging and definitely not discouraging the posting of future targets well before time.

If it's a cheat then posters must be sanctioned. They have been encouraged, so it can't be a cheat. If it's not, and its encouraged, then it must be part of the game. It's either one or the other.

It been going on for a considerable time without sanction; it's now solidly part of the game.

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?76561-At-it-Again-NPCs/page4

LosKevanos
12-25-2013, 01:00 AM
You forget that there is no consistency when it comes to gree... there is no rules but what they establish and change according to their needs and profit desires... if you think this game is fair, you are gravely mistaken, and you have set yourself up for continual disappointment every where you turn. This game to gree is not about our having fun or it being fair for us as the end user... their mission is to suck every ounce of profit they can from us, and when they can't... don't be surprised to find that they just up and discontinue the game. This game model was their prototype and their cash cow to build and improve other games designed to do the same thing but only better in other venues and markets. We are essentially their antique dinosaur and if you can't see the signs that they don't care about our dissatisfaction, then you need to wake up and take a good look at how much time you spend here despite their continued transgressions against you. No one is forcing you to stay here and take this abuse... there are plenty of other games out their by different developers that are based on better business and customer service models. If you want to spend your energy on a temporary target that may or may not be there or even be used, that is your prerogative. I'm quite surprised they haven't deployed decoy NPC's in an effort to waste even more of your energy so that they can get you to spend money on the real targets... I'm convinced that's the next trick up their sleeve... luring us into false confidence that finally there is a consistency we can rely on like back in the days of funzio. Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice? shame on me... fool me thrice and I'm a glutton for misery. Like in Vegas, there is no guarantee that your gamble will pay out and you have to accept the risk that your investment was poorly made to gamble it in the first place if you aren't willing to lose it.

Ysae Kaeps ASU
12-25-2013, 03:09 AM
I'll try and answer what needs to be said as best I can LK.


You forget that there is no consistency when it comes to gree... there is no rules but what they establish and change according to their needs and profit desires...
I haven't forgotten that. They can change this game as they choose, when they choose. They have done that several times. Sometimes we don't like the changes and sometimes we do. It has to evolve.


if you think this game is fair, you are gravely mistaken, and you have set yourself up for continual disappointment every where you turn. This game to gree is not about our having fun or it being fair for us as the end user...

Whether its fair or not, can be a subjective test or even a legal objective test. I understand what you say and am not mistaken. I respect your point of view. We may or may not hold the same belief at different times.


mission is to suck every ounce of profit they can from us, and when they can't... don't be surprised to find that they just up and discontinue the game.

I think only the 'blinkered' would think this will go on forever. Have a look at MQ as an example. The company will either evolve or die and with it their games. I thought CC was first but I must be wrong on that assumption.


This game model was their prototype and their cash cow to build and improve other games designed to do the same thing but only better in other venues and markets. We are essentially their antique dinosaur and if you can't see the signs that they don't care about our dissatisfaction, then you need to wake up and take a good look at how much time you spend here despite their continued transgressions against you.

My eyes are wide open and can read client satisfaction and dissatisfaction on these threads, in-game and other areas. At times I am satisfied and at other times I may not be.



No one is forcing you to stay here and take this abuse...

I understand that, thank you.

Good luck to you LK. You are entitled to your point of view and of course I will respect it.

What?
12-25-2013, 08:28 AM
Why don't they just put the npcs on the maps when the event goes live and remove them when the event is over? Then you wouldn't have some players prestaging and other resetting and others just not doing anything. It seems like gree is just causing issues with their players unnecessarily.

Ssne
12-25-2013, 08:38 AM
A bigger issue IMO is the length and energy requirements of the LTQ, with a comparatively crappy 50k unit as the prize. I think I leveled twice during prestaging, which I would have never even done if I knew what the prizes were. It's one thing to have that kind of prize if the LTQ is fairly easy, this one was a huge time suck. Prizes with no bonuses suck.

And of course, the fact that the kill 100 boss drop doesn't work and all gree employees are gone for the week is crazy. I work tomorrow why not gree customer support??