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DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:00 PM
Someone in my faction mentioned people were discussing a new hack or possible exploit to the game. Anyone know what he's referring to? Was the thread deleted? Man I hate cheaters but if I can hit a certain target so many times a minute and it refills my energy bar than I'm gonna take advantage of it.

Thief
12-11-2013, 04:11 PM
I could tell you but then...well lets just say i'm not allowed to tell you.

On a serious note hacking will not only get you banned from the game but also discussing it will get you banned from the forums.

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:16 PM
Ok forget I asked. I just wanted to make sure gree knew about it to protect us gold spenders.

iZheil9152
12-11-2013, 04:23 PM
I sent a PM to CJ about the details about an exploit I know of, but he is yet to read my message.

CJ, Check yo messages

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:30 PM
Does it trick your iphone into thinking its android and give you 100% drop rates in the holiday huntdown?

Degun07
12-11-2013, 04:31 PM
From my understanding it was a energy glitch that has been fixed in the last update. As for exploits I am sure there is someone out there now just trying to find an exploit......let's be honest GREE stands for greedy so can you blame people for trying .....some say yes others say no I am kind of on the fence. This games about money and for the free players well greeds point of view is get lost In order for you to advance you got to pay...end of story.

CJ54
12-11-2013, 04:32 PM
I sent a PM to CJ about the details about an exploit I know of, but he is yet to read my message.

CJ, Check yo messages

My private messages are currently something of a bottomless pit due to the mass of PMs that I receive. Best thing to do with details or concerns on any potential hack is to send them via ticket to Support; they get forwarded to security specialists who are better equipped to look into it than myself or another support person.

iZheil9152
12-11-2013, 04:34 PM
Listen to thief, don't talk about hacks... Bad things will happen

mreilly
12-11-2013, 04:34 PM
for them to respond via a pm is to admit fault and acknowledge it. I'm sure their lawyers wouldn't want that ?

iZheil9152
12-11-2013, 04:34 PM
My private messages are currently something of a bottomless pit due to the mass of PMs that I receive. Best thing to do with details or concerns on any potential hack is to send them via ticket to Support; they get forwarded to security specialists who are better equipped to look into it than myself or another support person.
Aye aye captain

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:35 PM
Hey CJ. Working late tonight? It's good to see you around here. Great job on this past war. Other than a pointless to complain about issue of tallied hits not showing, you guys did pretty darn good. Thanks for that...

iZheil9152
12-11-2013, 04:36 PM
for them to respond via a pm is to admit fault and acknowledge it. I'm sure their lawyers wouldn't want that ?
There is always a loophole, it's just a matter of finding it before others and fixing it or else they have the advantage

Thief
12-11-2013, 04:40 PM
CJ i also sent you a message about it. Let me know if i can send it to you somewhere else so that your aware of it.

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:42 PM
Listen to thief, don't talk about hacks... Bad things will happen

Bro I get the shaft in every way possible in this game. I don't see how it could get much worse. I'm now down to pretty much a free player so it really don't matter to me now. I'll throw down for some kills at wartime for my faction and possibly compete in future 24hr events if there are no drop rate issues. But the Gold program member I used to be has left the building.

mreilly
12-11-2013, 04:47 PM
Gree should implement a bounty program that rewards the first player who reports a hack\glitch that they can confirm. Make it an extreme prize(tons of gold) so that if there is a hack that it stays really low key or a smaller bounty prize if its not one most people cant take advantage of.

I can only assume gree is losing major $$ in all their games right now.

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 04:49 PM
That's a damn good idea and every gold player in here will agree!

Big Baby Jesus
12-11-2013, 05:47 PM
Gree should implement a bounty program that rewards the first player who reports a hack\glitch that they can confirm. Make it an extreme prize(tons of gold) so that if there is a hack that it stays really low key or a smaller bounty prize if its not one most people cant take advantage of.

I can only assume gree is losing major $$ in all their games right now.


They already do this.

JCL
12-11-2013, 06:59 PM
If its the same hack indeed, that was fixed in MW about 1-2 months ago. I've had it verified by a few people who could do it, and then now can't.

I'm not defending Gree at all as I think someone there is specifically trying to create the worst online game experience possible, but I really don't attribute this not to poorly designed game. You had to specifically aim for this exploit and there's not a gaming platform online that hasn't fallen prey to similar hacks. Remember the "Standby" glitching? Same principles.


Technically it isn't a hack it is exploiting a poorly designed game. It has been going on in CC for months with no end in sight and in KA well before that. It ruins the game quickly. It works best in CC on ios7. May work at times on some android devices and not at all on others. It allows you do complete anything energy based without using gold and for those of us unable or unwilling to use the exploit we have fallen way behind. So either exploit or quit. I'm very close to quitting in CC because my once strong acct loses ground every time Gree puts on another energy event. I will not go into details on how it works because I don't think anything about it is fair and I don't use it myself. I really hope this sickness has not spread to MW.

Snow Bunny
12-11-2013, 07:18 PM
People will always find glitches in games and hack them as well. MW is special because of the amount of real money being spent. Android has a glitch/cheat for infante energy, with minimal effort and no outside software needed. It be cool to look at android vs iOS users that completed recent LTQ events or FLTQ participation levels. So if u can prove this and spent a lot of money to get ur recent units on iOS I'd contact apple for a refund. This is a baby example of the unfairness and hacking of this game at an elementary level. Never play this game to compete with others stats, you will only be putting your money in a non returning slot machine. If want to compete in a game for skill or who's better, play a consol game on LAN, where money dosent win or make you a better player. Out of all the games I've played this one is the worst for fairness, as gree profits greatly from things like this. Play this game for what it is... Just my two cents.

vNastIER
12-11-2013, 07:20 PM
That's a damn good idea and every gold player in here will agree!

why is this only limited to gold players? do you think us "freebies" mind. thats twisted but like always....if your free...you are not heard

Snow Bunny
12-11-2013, 07:24 PM
They already do this.

This comes to me as a surprise, I've reported an unbelievable amount of inventory hackers, seen most get banned, some big spenders with a few toys they should have not get banned exc... And all I ever get is automated reply with no conclusion I have to find them ingame again to see if they got banned. Not implying I deserve any reward or recognition but I'm surprised by this. Although a thank you that player have been banned would be nice.

vNastIER
12-11-2013, 07:28 PM
This comes to me as a surprise, I've reported an unbelievable amount of inventory hackers, seen most get banned, some big spenders with a few toys they should have not get banned exc... And all I ever get is automated reply with no conclusion I have to find them ingame again to see if they got banned. Not implying I deserve any reward or recognition but I'm surprised by this. Although a thank you that player have been banned would be nice.
they werent banned. they were just spread across some top tier factions lol

Just kidding around. dont want to upset HIM

Gen CheeBye
12-11-2013, 07:42 PM
I just got raided about $20mil cash. The problem was, there wasn't any LE building left uncollected at that time. My vault cash was also untouched.

Question is, hack or glitch?

vNastIER
12-11-2013, 08:13 PM
I just got raided about $20mil cash. The problem was, there wasn't any LE building left uncollected at that time. My vault cash was also untouched.

Question is, hack or glitch?

Or who Cares. Do do people still get but hurt when their monopoly money has been taken. .not talking about you ...just in general lol

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 08:33 PM
The only thing you have invested in this is time. I realize time is a valuable thing, but to spend money makes cheating seem like stealing out of your own pockets.

vNastIER
12-11-2013, 08:37 PM
The only thing you have invested in this is time. I realize time is a valuable thing, but to spend money makes cheating seem like stealing out of your own pockets. i hear what your saying. but stealing is stealing. it hurts us all lol

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 08:42 PM
Man now I'm really mad. First we get the crap drop rates on iOS and now it seems drop rates are irrelevant on Android because they can just refill energy at anytime.

DTA-HOG
12-11-2013, 08:43 PM
You are right. My apologies for making it seem like gold users are superior. It takes all of us to make this game work and be fun.

Mastert55!
12-12-2013, 02:41 AM
Listen to thief, don't talk about hacks... Bad things will happen

Couldn't stop laughing!

Dansgek
12-12-2013, 02:45 AM
I've only heard about the IOS glitch for infinite energy.
So both devices are glitching with energy. I hope it's found and solved soon.

Gen CheeBye
12-12-2013, 03:10 AM
Or who Cares. Do do people still get but hurt when their monopoly money has been taken. .not talking about you ...just in general lol

Do people still save up in-game cash to buy LE buildings or upgrade them to get units? I'm sure you do that too especially with unit stats inflation and all.

I'm just sharing what I had experienced. And yes, I do believe some people still care enough to write derogatory comments on my wall when I raid them. :D

Dansgek
12-12-2013, 04:03 AM
And BTW I won't share the knowledge about the glitches, so dont bother to ask in private messages.

BostonHammer
12-12-2013, 07:04 AM
I just got raided about $20mil cash. The problem was, there wasn't any LE building left uncollected at that time. My vault cash was also untouched.

Question is, hack or glitch?

Actually, this just happened to my LLP. Said I got raided for $100+ million but I didn't have any raidable buildings and there were no raid icons on any of my buildings. I had to run off to work before I could investigate further but something seemed fishy.

Paiens
12-12-2013, 10:36 AM
I've heard of this hack as well.

Also a hack of how to get your boost buildings immune from IOS players using a certain tactic...read it on a wall in game, and sure enough, while I could see the buildings, I could not touch them. (of course it was a player from a top 3) When does it stop?

Is this enough to get me forum banned? If so please delete mods and I apologize...not sure what I am allowed to say, so threading lightly here.

HayeZeus
12-12-2013, 11:18 AM
if I can hit a certain target so many times a minute and it refills my energy bar than I'm gonna take advantage of it.

I'm sure everyone remembers this LTQ:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?70430-Supplier-Shutdown-LTQ&highlight=walkthrough

This was one of the first faction LTQs where the XP gain was insane. Our faction beat the entire faction prestige and nobody gained any XP by doing exactly what you're referring to. We brought in newly created genymotion/bluestacks accounts, and could level them to 50 in about an hour using all stat points for energy, and using all energy to hit the necessary target. Never had to refill energy with gold, because the XP gains launched you through the levels and gave you refreshed energy each time.

This was not a hack, this was not a glitch, this was not cheating, and this was not against any TOS. GREE set the XP requirements for each target, and we were smart enough to figure out that if we brought in newly created accounts, we could let them do all the work for free. We laughed the whole way through this event while everyone else was on here complaining relentlessly. This was probably the only time an actual strategy that I can think of besides tap tap tap that was used to get a leg up on the competition. Don't hate because your faction didn't figure this out lol.

That being said, I don't think it's possible to do anymore. GREE lowered the XP for all targets after this event and I doubt we'll ever see something like that again.

CJ54
12-12-2013, 11:43 AM
This comes to me as a surprise, I've reported an unbelievable amount of inventory hackers, seen most get banned, some big spenders with a few toys they should have not get banned exc... And all I ever get is automated reply with no conclusion I have to find them ingame again to see if they got banned. Not implying I deserve any reward or recognition but I'm surprised by this. Although a thank you that player have been banned would be nice.

We don't have an explicit bounty on this kind of thing. We'd be flooded with reports that weren't actually an issue, and those reports take time to investigate. We have in the past rewarded players for helping us solve a MAJOR issue of some kind, but that was usually after a long process of back and forth on something that we could not see the mechanism for on our side of things.


I just got raided about $20mil cash. The problem was, there wasn't any LE building left uncollected at that time. My vault cash was also untouched.

Question is, hack or glitch?

Server-sync issue. You might have been robbed earlier and the server didn't report it properly at the time, or the other player actually got a fail notification but you got an incorrect "robbed" notification (we've seen that in-house a couple of times but haven't been able to consistently reproduce).

Paiens
12-12-2013, 12:09 PM
Server-sync issue. You might have been robbed earlier and the server didn't report it properly at the time, or the other player actually got a fail notification but you got an incorrect "robbed" notification (we've seen that in-house a couple of times but haven't been able to consistently reproduce).

This issue is being widely reported in our faction now, with people setting timers to verify, I do believe you have a new hack on your hands CJ

mreilly
12-12-2013, 12:13 PM
We don't have an explicit bounty on this kind of thing. We'd be flooded with reports that weren't actually an issue, and those reports take time to investigate. We have in the past rewarded players for helping us solve a MAJOR issue of some kind, but that was usually after a long process of back and forth on something that we could not see the mechanism for on our side of things.


To me this sounds like the glitches or hacks aren't a problem for gree. Seems odd that you would rather roll the dice and run the risk of a hack \ glitch get so out of control that gree loses big $. A bounty program wouldn't be that hard to setup or to monitor and would probably keep things more low key in the future.

2000y2k
12-12-2013, 01:50 PM
My private messages are currently something of a bottomless pit due to the mass of PMs that I receive. Best thing to do with details or concerns on any potential hack is to send them via ticket to Support; they get forwarded to security specialists who are better equipped to look into it than myself or another support person.

I reported with a ticket two weeks ago about players being able to stack buildings on top of each other to save on land costs while still being able to collect and upgrade them all. Yesterday I received a reply back saying my software was not up to date as the response. Well my software was up to date when I sent the ticket in and it never addressed the issue. I sent in screen shots too and the email was not even read.

How can you fix anything if you do not even read the email and go straight to see of my software is up to date?

CJ54
12-12-2013, 02:12 PM
To me this sounds like the glitches or hacks aren't a problem for gree. Seems odd that you would rather roll the dice and run the risk of a hack \ glitch get so out of control that gree loses big $. A bounty program wouldn't be that hard to setup or to monitor and would probably keep things more low key in the future.

99% of the reports we get now aren't actually anything except a misunderstanding or a known bug that we already have a fix in the pipes for. Increasing that exponentially by offering a formal bounty rather than informal gifts of thanks would not be helpful. And at least now we don't have people mass-reporting others or every single little thing in the hope that ONE of them would be a hit and that they would get something. We need quality info on these kinds of things, not quantity.


How can you fix anything if you do not even read the email and go straight to see of my software is up to date?

Sounds like your ticket was accidentally hit by a batch answer when it should not have been. I'll have a word with the support agents.

BIG DH
12-12-2013, 07:34 PM
Sounds like your ticket was accidentally hit by a batch answer when it should not have been. I'll have a word with the support agents.
You're gonna be really busy since every ticket is hit by a standardized "batch" answer.

FromAfar
12-12-2013, 09:31 PM
Remember, these guys can't fix bugs let alone hacks.

The crate but has been around, and unfixed for 18 months now. No fix. They work.around it by giving out paltry $4k prizes.

And if you've ever played android sxs with Apple, all I can say is ... wow! The android ui guys have a lot of work to do in the issue and consistency department.

And communications: that's funny right there, I don't care who ya're. Gree instructions (paraphrased): shuddup, spend gold.

And agree support: auto reply. Are you still having problems, after 2 weeks, then several.more.days to respond to the "yeah, it's still broke" reply. And then closing the ticket with no fix anywhere in sight.

Durt McGurt
12-13-2013, 05:51 AM
... We have in the past rewarded players for helping us solve a MAJOR issue of some kind...

Would you care to monetize the reward(s) given out?
How many reward(s) have been given out?
How many players have been on the receiving end of these reward(s)?
Does anyone in particular get regular installments of a reward(s) for his/her help?

Roscoe782
12-13-2013, 08:46 AM
Someone in my faction mentioned people were discussing a new hack or possible exploit to the game. Anyone know what he's referring to? Was the thread deleted? Man I hate cheaters but if I can hit a certain target so many times a minute and it refills my energy bar than I'm gonna take advantage of it.

So, let me get this straight: you don't like cheaters, but want to, and think posting on the game's official forum, GREE's forum, is a good idea? Genius. Please, keep posting about it.....

Allday
12-13-2013, 08:58 AM
So, let me get this straight: you don't like cheaters, but want to, and think posting on the game's official forum, GREE's forum, is a good idea? Genius. Please, keep posting about it.....
I was thinking the same thing, he hates cheaters, but if he can get unlimited energy then he will do it.

Syros
12-13-2013, 10:15 AM
I think the fact is that Gree obviously doesn't take action against all the people exploiting the glitches and they clearly have no interest in knowing about or fixing them. If you were aware of a glitch that tons of other people were using, would you take advantage of it? I sure as hell would. If all these people are exploiting a glitch for unlimited energy, why would I pay hundreds of dollars just to get the same prize when they pay nothing?

Second to Gree consistently messing up every event, this is the reason I will never spend another cent on this game, I used to be a gold program member... no more. There have been glitches\exploits out for months, the fact that Gree can't automatically detect these blatant exploits is ridiculous. Someone spending 100,000 energy and no gold within a day, how hard would it be to write a script to automatically detect this? 15 minutes of work? Probably.

It's clear they either don't care or just don't have the know-how to properly program the game. It sounds to me like the competent developers of this game left a few months ago and no one currently employed there has any clue how to manage the existing code. I can't think of another explanation for the constant f*ck ups and lack of fixes to known issues (WD match ups, scaling of boss events, no confirmation on gold purchases, tons of android issues, list goes on, and on.).

Gree has always made one thing abundantly clear, and that is they value the dollar more than their customers. This will be their downfall and I'll be sitting here watching it happen from the sidelines laughing.

CJ54
12-13-2013, 10:42 AM
Does anyone in particular get regular installments of a reward(s) for his/her help?

Nope. Entirely informal one-offs.


I think the fact is that Gree obviously doesn't take action against all the people exploiting the glitches and they clearly have no interest in knowing about or fixing them. If you were aware of a glitch that tons of other people were using, would you take advantage of it? I sure as hell would. If all these people are exploiting a glitch for unlimited energy, why would I pay hundreds of dollars just to get the same prize when they pay nothing?

We spent a couple of hours testing the reports on this one and looking into the server-client interaction. Here's the drill: if you try the trick some people are reporting, when that hits the server, the server resets all that and you lose any progress you made (so basically anyone trying the trick, it looks like it is working for as long as you're not connected to the server and then they get nothing. No attacks go through, completed goals reset, any items or money gained goes away. Nadda.). We'll be fixing it in the next client so that it won't even look like it is doing anything when people try that (I was pushing for it to also give people a rude message when they try, but I was told that would show up in some unintended cases, so no dice).

So yeah, current fears unfounded.

Maddog11
12-13-2013, 10:56 AM
thank you CJ for the update

Mastert55!
12-13-2013, 10:56 AM
So basically it's just one big game of tattletale.

mreilly
12-13-2013, 11:49 AM
Nope. Entirely informal one-offs.



We spent a couple of hours testing the reports on this one and looking into the server-client interaction. Here's the drill: if you try the trick some people are reporting, when that hits the server, the server resets all that and you lose any progress you made (so basically anyone trying the trick, it looks like it is working for as long as you're not connected to the server and then they get nothing. No attacks go through, completed goals reset, any items or money gained goes away. Nadda.). We'll be fixing it in the next client so that it won't even look like it is doing anything when people try that (I was pushing for it to also give people a rude message when they try, but I was told that would show up in some unintended cases, so no dice).

So yeah, current fears unfounded.

The msg idea is funny but your right it would appear at the wrong time. My son sometimes has modern war open on his ipad when we leave the house so whatever msg would appear would pop up on his screen then...

ryguy8899
12-13-2013, 12:52 PM
So, let me get this straight: you don't like cheaters, but want to, and think posting on the game's official forum, GREE's forum, is a good idea? Genius. Please, keep posting about it..... First post i have seen that makes since +1

Bone Daddy
12-13-2013, 01:00 PM
So basically it's just one big game of tattletale.

this reminds me of caddie shack.

"nobody likes a tattletale danny {or TS}"

ryguy8899
12-13-2013, 02:14 PM
Lol true................

Speak Easy
12-13-2013, 02:25 PM
?.......... Here's the drill: if you try the trick some people are reporting, when that hits the server, the server resets all that and you lose any progress you made (so basically anyone trying the trick, it looks like it is working for as long as you're not connected to the server and then they get nothing. No attacks go through, completed goals reset, any items or money gained goes away. Nadda.). We'll be fixing it in the next client so that it won't even look like it is doing anything when people try that

(I was pushing for it to also give people a rude message when they try, but I was told that would show up in some unintended cases, so no dice).

So yeah, current fears unfounded.

That's a great outcome, well done everyone.

Can you just tell me this please.

1. What would the benefit be in sending 'rude messages' from the company to its customer base of Males, Females, adult and children.

2. Would there have been the potential for these 'rude messages' to be sent to someone who looses WiFi connection through no act on their part as happens often in some areas?

3. Why can't a screen simply appear that says 'Server Connection Error' and disallows further interaction until it's restored. This happens when trying to enter the faction when the WiFi drops out.

4. You say we will lose any progress made should our connection drop out. How do we know if our connection drops out when in-game. I think it wise that we should stop trying to advance if this happens, however we won't know. At least I can't identify that once in-game with the exception of it dropping out when entering the faction.

5. Reference 4 above: How much of our wasted progress will we lose. The server updates every 60 seconds for me. Does that mean I will potentially lose all progress after the inevitable drop outs, plus up to 60 seconds of actual WiFi access progress?

6. What of my energy. Is my energy reduction restored to the moment the drop-out happened or will I lose all energy expended from the moment the drop out happened plus potentially up to 60 seconds of WiFi connected energy use. For a energy sapping target there can by heavy use in seconds.

7. If we regen using money (game gold) will I still lose that regen as in #6 above.

8. If our WiFi drops out during energy use on targets and then seconds later connects again (we won't know this is happening) then what happens to our progress and energy use during that period and potentially up to 60 seconds before the drop out? Will I see an immediate reset every time this happens or will I simply continue and later find that everything is reset?

9. Depending on the company answers to the above, will this actually enhance customers experience of this game or is there a significant risk of reducing it?

I don't think 'rude messages' from the company is the smartest idea irrespective of the reason the WiFi isn't connected.

mreilly
12-13-2013, 02:47 PM
speak easy your retarded. He is talking about a rude message sent to users while trying to take advantage of the glitch. Why does this offend you? He also said it won't happen..

As for cj's response it is rather confusing. Seems like he is saying the glitch won't work anymore.. but then says it needs to be updated in next update?

Speak Easy
12-13-2013, 02:53 PM
Thank you MReilly for you comment about retardation. MReilly, I respectfully remind you that the program will not be able to identify whether the WiFi drop out is from the handful of ppl using it or by any other way for legitimate players.

My post relates ONLY to legitimate players and has nothing to do with any others.

CJ54
12-13-2013, 03:00 PM
speak easy your retarded. He is talking about a rude message sent to users while trying to take advantage of the glitch. Why does this offend you? He also said it won't happen..

As for cj's response it is rather confusing. Seems like he is saying the glitch won't work anymore.. but then says it needs to be updated in next update?

I don't think we need to call anyone retarded.

To clear up the confusion: there's a thing you can do that looks like it gives you a bunch of energy. It actually doesn't; everything you do with that energy gets taken away/reset/never actually given in the first place. The thing we're changing in an update is to make it so that it doesn't even *look* like it works at all so there won't be all these confusing games of telephone.

Also, Speak Easy, we definitely wouldn't ever put anything rude in the game; it's just funny to think of someone trying to cheat and getting a "Hahaha, nice try!" message. And you're right, that's why they'd see that message. The server can't tell whether or not someone is intentionally triggering that, just that the game is trying to do something it can't/shouldn't.

Speak Easy
12-13-2013, 03:05 PM
I don't believe I said anywhere that it offends me MReilly.
What was clear is that it was discussed as part of a strategy for this issue. That issue has not yet been resolved.

My post raises concerns I have as a legitimate player MReilly. If you don't hold those concerns then please disregard it and refrain from inferring my brain function is well below your high functioning prowess.

My concerns (unfounded or not) go beyond whether the glitch is currently working or not, MReilly.

Speak Easy
12-13-2013, 03:31 PM
Thank you for clearing up the in-game message matter. That part seems resolved.

I thought I read somewhere in this thread, which I now can't find, that the WiFi is switched off and on in some fashion so the used energy regen is accelerated. I may have misunderstood.

If that is what happens then what happens to the advances made and energy when using the legitimate energy after WiFi drop out should that occur? Refer to my questions above.

I understand any accelerated energy regen not being usable, but ONLY so far as it's accelerated and not what normally regens. But I am uncertain about the initial legitimate energy as in my post above as it relates to LEGITIMATE players ONLY.

Speak Easy
12-13-2013, 05:26 PM
Perhaps we just got the answer with the new push. Everything has reset. This is not the best outcome.

GenesDad
12-13-2013, 06:02 PM
ISO: Attack whatever you have to till you have 20 energy left, turn airplane mode on and finish off the remainder 20 energy then log outta the game, after 15-20 mins turn wifi back on and log back into the game = full energy.

This has been going on for so long on KA

Disclaimer:
yes I am genes dad as I have been with mrs gene for months but I am not his real father, only his step dad for now.

This is not a hack nor a glitch, part of the game. When you have monkeys programming something you are bound to get #### ups.

One man army
12-13-2013, 06:05 PM
i love how the only mod i have seen on these fourms is you (youre helpful at least)

CJ D
12-13-2013, 06:14 PM
One thing is abundantly clear looking at CJs responses. No matter how "good" the devs think they are at detecting what others are doing, or how well they think they bullet proof stuff.....when you have hundreds of thousands of folks playing a game, I can guarantee you some of those players are so far ahead of you that they can even fool you into thinking the exploits aren't actually there. Lolololol.

CJ D
12-13-2013, 06:16 PM
I'm sure everyone remembers this LTQ:

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?70430-Supplier-Shutdown-LTQ&highlight=walkthrough

This was one of the first faction LTQs where the XP gain was insane. Our faction beat the entire faction prestige and nobody gained any XP by doing exactly what you're referring to. We brought in newly created genymotion/bluestacks accounts, and could level them to 50 in about an hour using all stat points for energy, and using all energy to hit the necessary target. Never had to refill energy with gold, because the XP gains launched you through the levels and gave you refreshed energy each time.

This was not a hack, this was not a glitch, this was not cheating, and this was not against any TOS. GREE set the XP requirements for each target, and we were smart enough to figure out that if we brought in newly created accounts, we could let them do all the work for free. We laughed the whole way through this event while everyone else was on here complaining relentlessly. This was probably the only time an actual strategy that I can think of besides tap tap tap that was used to get a leg up on the competition. Don't hate because your faction didn't figure this out lol.

That being said, I don't think it's possible to do anymore. GREE lowered the XP for all targets after this event and I doubt we'll ever see something like that again.

You shoulda saved those accounts... ;)

CJ D
12-13-2013, 06:24 PM
I think the fact is that Gree obviously doesn't take action against all the people exploiting the glitches and they clearly have no interest in knowing about or fixing them. If you were aware of a glitch that tons of other people were using, would you take advantage of it? I sure as hell would. If all these people are exploiting a glitch for unlimited energy, why would I pay hundreds of dollars just to get the same prize when they pay nothing?

Second to Gree consistently messing up every event, this is the reason I will never spend another cent on this game, I used to be a gold program member... no more. There have been glitches\exploits out for months, the fact that Gree can't automatically detect these blatant exploits is ridiculous. Someone spending 100,000 energy and no gold within a day, how hard would it be to write a script to automatically detect this? 15 minutes of work? Probably.

It's clear they either don't care or just don't have the know-how to properly program the game. It sounds to me like the competent developers of this game left a few months ago and no one currently employed there has any clue how to manage the existing code. I can't think of another explanation for the constant f*ck ups and lack of fixes to known issues (WD match ups, scaling of boss events, no confirmation on gold purchases, tons of android issues, list goes on, and on.).

Gree has always made one thing abundantly clear, and that is they value the dollar more than their customers. This will be their downfall and I'll be sitting here watching it happen from the sidelines laughing.

Oh yeah...and one last thing...trust what this guy is telling you. I have no doubt that he could rewrite the game code inside of an hour to fix most of your problems. Lol. Give him 10 minutes and he'll write a script to play the game automated once an hour to collect buildings and hit targets. I watched him program satellites from my laptop while he was 1500 miles away one time. Lol

GenesDad
12-13-2013, 06:41 PM
Gotta love the free players getting as strong if not stronger than the people buying gold. No game will ever be hack free, glitch free ect. There are players playing games since the start and have never spend a dime on games but are as strong as most of the gold players, we don't need to play for hours and hours like a low life, only just enough time to finish the events off. Look at most of these stress heads, no sleep, wife's get p'ed off, wife's getting no bang so she's out getting it from a next man but the gamer has no idea as he is busy buying gold, calculating energy needed, crying & complaining ect. The guys who really enjoy's playing this game is the free players and that is a fact. Free players will never get banned, too smart for monkey programmers. Just cos someone's a free player don't mean he or she is broke believe me there are many filthy ass rich free players out there.

vNastIER
12-13-2013, 06:42 PM
Gotta love the free players getting as strong if not stronger than the people buying gold. No game will ever be hack free, glitch free ect. There are players playing games since the start and have never spend a dime on games but are as strong as most of the gold players, we don't need to play for hours and hours like a low life, only just enough time to finish the events off. Look at most of these stress heads, no sleep, wife's get p'ed off, wife's getting no bang so she's out getting it from a next man but the gamer has no idea as he is busy buying gold, calculating energy needed, crying & complaining ect. The guys who really enjoy's playing this game is the free players and that is a fact. Free players will never get banned, too smart for monkey programmers. Just cos someone's a free player don't mean he or she is broke believe me there are many filthy ass rich free players out there.this guy is on to something.

socool
12-13-2013, 06:55 PM
thanks for the reply

GenesDad
12-13-2013, 06:57 PM
You have to be on iOS 7. Flick the bottom of your screen and you will see the plane :) x

CJ D
12-13-2013, 07:31 PM
You have to be on iOS 7. Flick the bottom of your screen and you will see the plane :) x

Nah....your wireless router got a power button huh?

WI(AusNz)
12-13-2013, 07:38 PM
this guy is on to something.
"is on to something" or is "on something"? I think the latter

vNastIER
12-13-2013, 09:40 PM
"is on to something" or is "on something"? I think the latter
or....is he he on something while being on to something?

i think neither

vNastIER
12-13-2013, 09:49 PM
seeing how the TOS are in my sig...I felt like updating myself on then

in doing so...I came across this bit of info

"Discuss activities that violate our terms of service (this includes discussion of cheating, hacking, botting, etc.)"

clearly the op is in violation lol and some others

and i get banned for using a bad word

Brummied
12-14-2013, 11:40 AM
Yo big v, surely you've heard of different rules for different people, why the games littered with classic examples of favoritism, If yer in the know then ya gets the flow of milk of honey from the promised land. Pity the rest that only hear the tales of gree generously compensating others while getting the standard we fixed it, go away themselves. I actually admire the people who have seen through the gree promised land and moved onto greener pastures... Think about all those free people today, not stuck chasing sour milk and bitter honey... I wonder if they think about what there missing, I somewhat doubt it bro...

ugaguard
12-14-2013, 12:08 PM
has this been fixed yet

Hotshots
12-15-2013, 02:28 AM
has this been fixed yet

No . It works still despite what CJ said

Roscoe782
12-16-2013, 10:49 AM
No . It works still despite what CJ said

I can't believe this thread is still going. The moron that started it should have closed it long ago. Why does GREE leave it open? This is there backyard and people are going on here and blatantly and specifically talking about hacks and glitches? Do you think this won't draw undo attention to yourself? I hope for your sake it doesn't. Let's give GREE a reason to ban....yourself. If you want to report it, do what the admins always tell you to. Report it to them. Doing it this way draws.....


Pm me with the details. Don't worry :)

This type of response. Again, are you people dumb? You just asked to get a private message about how to hack on GREE's official forum. I mean, come on, you don't think they don't watch. GREE may seem dumb to a lot of you, but they sure are good at milking the money out of you (some-most).

So, for both of your sakes, I hope this doesn't lead to GREE checking you guys out. I know of people that have gotten banned from not only the forum, but also the game...It can happen, even if rarely.

Hotshots
12-16-2013, 02:11 PM
I can't believe this thread is still going. The moron that started it should have closed it long ago. Why does GREE leave it open? This is there backyard and people are going on here and blatantly and specifically talking about hacks and glitches? Do you think this won't draw undo attention to yourself? I hope for your sake it doesn't. Let's give GREE a reason to ban....yourself. If you want to report it, do what the admins always tell you to. Report it to them. Doing it this way draws.....



This type of response. Again, are you people dumb? You just asked to get a private message about how to hack on GREE's official forum. I mean, come on, you don't think they don't watch. GREE may seem dumb to a lot of you, but they sure are good at milking the money out of you (some-most).

So, for both of your sakes, I hope this doesn't lead to GREE checking you guys out. I know of people that have gotten banned from not only the forum, but also the game...It can happen, even if rarely.

Feel free to check my main account out , there's nothing that has been hacked / glitched.
It's not my fault Gree is too lazy to fix this. I wonder whether he fixed the crate hack / glitch , seeing as there's a new crate event out , with the stupid top 1 ect prizes .
To be honest my days are almost done , if I get banned I couldn't care less. This game is about dead and burried , people quitting like never before.
Btw feel free to ban my test account if you can find it ;) (not that it gets played, it's just to test hacks and glitches and see how long it takes the muppets at Gree to fix them )

socool
12-16-2013, 02:22 PM
I tried and it doesn't work , can anyone pm me this please ???

lemonhaze
12-16-2013, 03:03 PM
I tried and it doesn't work , can anyone pm me this please ??? nah just call the gree glitch hotline...1-800-get-lost

Vetach
12-16-2013, 04:41 PM
I find it rather interesting that 3 hours into the Cuba crate event that someone has 92 opened crates. With my simple math that's 15 gold to open, 15 gold to reset per, assuming you got 100% the sword. That's what 2700 gold. Hrmm idk Id have a hard time believing that someone would buy that much gold in the first 3 hours much less spend it that fast unless they were retarded rich, using a stolen cc, or hacking. What do you think is most likely? I wonder if gree researches the top people in events like this to see if they are legit or not? I'm betting they don't care because it pressures legitimate people to spend money to keep up with thieves. I could be wrong, but really?

Skittles711
12-16-2013, 05:02 PM
I find it rather interesting that 3 hours into the Cuba crate event that someone has 92 opened crates. With my simple math that's 15 gold to open, 15 gold to reset per, assuming you got 100% the sword. That's what 2700 gold. Hrmm idk Id have a hard time believing that someone would buy that much gold in the first 3 hours much less spend it that fast unless they were retarded rich, using a stolen cc, or hacking. What do you think is most likely? I wonder if gree researches the top people in events like this to see if they are legit or not? I'm betting they don't care because it pressures legitimate people to spend money to keep up with thieves. I could be wrong, but really?


I have noticed the same. I am getting pies and someone is blazing the leaderboards with swords.

Hi,
My name is Skittles and I'm 18 days Gold free.

DTA-HOG
12-16-2013, 06:24 PM
That would be an employee of Gree setting the pace just like all of the other events and WD.

Sinner
12-16-2013, 10:04 PM
Hog are you insinuating Gree employees get a gold discount ?

Vetach
12-16-2013, 11:25 PM
That would be an employee of Gree setting the pace just like all of the other events and WD.
You really think those top 10 with a 150+ swords are gree employees? Idk but if they are legit and actually buying gold, then maybe I need to buy stock at gree... Hrmm wonder if a stock holder gets free/discounted gold lol

Dansgek
12-16-2013, 11:41 PM
For what i heard the energy glitch on IOS is still working and some could get the last 24 hours event in just a couple of hours.
CJ pm me if you want extra details.

Hotshots
12-17-2013, 12:12 AM
For what i heard the energy glitch on IOS is still working and some could get the last 24 hours event in just a couple of hours.
CJ pm me if you want extra details.

Gree knows exactly how it's done , you won't get a pm off CJ . There's a crate hack as well , which I'm sure they know about also . Why are they not fixed - doesn't take a genius to work it out. You gotta spend more gold to compete ;)

SevenO9
12-17-2013, 01:45 AM
I find it rather interesting that 3 hours into the Cuba crate event that someone has 92 opened crates. With my simple math that's 15 gold to open, 15 gold to reset per, assuming you got 100% the sword. That's what 2700 gold. Hrmm idk Id have a hard time believing that someone would buy that much gold in the first 3 hours much less spend it that fast unless they were retarded rich, using a stolen cc, or hacking. What do you think is most likely? I wonder if gree researches the top people in events like this to see if they are legit or not? I'm betting they don't care because it pressures legitimate people to spend money to keep up with thieves. I could be wrong, but really?

If you find someone spending 2700 gold in three hours disturbing you better stop playing this game. Thats about a tap per minute. I have seen gold being dumped at much faster rates ...

Sinner
12-17-2013, 06:13 AM
Seven is 100 percent correct , the jealousy in some you is crazy. Just because some of you guy's wife would divorce you if you spent the trailer payment on a video game doesn't mean others don't blow a pad load. The Android wall hack is the one that is really needs fixing. Just Saying !

Skittles711
12-17-2013, 07:25 AM
I find the diversions away from the intended point interesting.

That point being within the 1st hour many were getting pies and the event was not working correctly. Yet there was someone blazing up the leaderboard. So the assumptions needed to make this happen is:

1. A heavy gold spender begins attacking or doing missions right at the start of the event to get crates
2. The event is working correctly for that person so that they get crates and not pies
3. The sword reward from the crates is high enough to have +75 within the 1st hour

So say what you will about how deep your pockets are no one cares. As for me I am a teir 2 bonus program member. The issue is if there is an error how is it only working for a select few gold spenders.

Hi,

My name is Skittles and it's been 19 days since my last gold purchase.

TheRain
12-17-2013, 10:48 AM
It is really clear, that there are a ton of glitches out there. I accidently found one by walking into an area that had no service while completing an action. I now know how to do it, but in my mind, evnthough Gree likes to cheat it's players, I REFUSE to exploit theirs flaws because I am not a thief... lave that to the Criminals

Judas Goat
12-17-2013, 10:56 AM
It is really clear, that there are a ton of glitches out there. I accidently found one by walking into an area that had no service while completing an action. I now know how to do it, but in my mind, evnthough Gree likes to cheat it's players, I REFUSE to exploit theirs flaws because I am not a thief... lave that to the Criminals

Hmm ............ Very revealing ...........

Judas Goat
12-17-2013, 10:59 AM
If you find someone spending 2700 gold in three hours disturbing you better stop playing this game. Thats about a tap per minute. I have seen gold being dumped at much faster rates ...

The BIGGER question is HOW they came to possess the fake gold?

All who possess fake gold don't ... ... .... go..!

Yep, it's true.

honest Abe
12-17-2013, 11:27 AM
Mine comes through Amex to iTunes and then from my bank account to Amex. Does yours follow a separate route?



The BIGGER question is HOW they came to possess the fake gold?

All who possess fake gold don't ... ... .... go..!

Yep, it's true.

Bobble64
12-17-2013, 11:54 AM
For crying out loud. There is a HUGE difference between exploiting glitches and hacking a game. If people want to complain about game hacking, fine...I get it. For anyone else that found a "glitch" by all means exploit it. It's part of the game...you didn't alter the game to suit your needs. For someone to say exploiting a glitch is "stealing" has obviously not being playing video games for the past three decades.

I forced Mario at gunpoint to jump on a turtle's back for free lives once. There he was just hopping up and down on a set of stairs like an idiot. Does that make me a bad person? No. It makes me smarter than you and subsequently developed skills that have benefited me in my adult life. Suck it up kiddos.

Judas Goat
12-17-2013, 12:13 PM
Mine comes through Amex to iTunes and then from my bank account to Amex. Does yours follow a separate route?

I am allergic to fake gold, never touch the stuff.

But, others are add***ed to it.

Yours may come as you described, or maybe not, none of my business.

But, I hear stuff, people talk, just saying.

Roscoe782
12-17-2013, 01:08 PM
For crying out loud. There is a HUGE difference between exploiting glitches and hacking a game. If people want to complain about game hacking, fine...I get it. For anyone else that found a "glitch" by all means exploit it. It's part of the game...you didn't alter the game to suit your needs. For someone to say exploiting a glitch is "stealing" has obviously not being playing video games for the past three decades.

I forced Mario at gunpoint to jump on a turtle's back for free lives once. There he was just hopping up and down on a set of stairs like an idiot. Does that make me a bad person? No. It makes me smarter than you and subsequently developed skills that have benefited me in my adult life. Suck it up kiddos.

Love it. Well said.

Lancerdually
12-17-2013, 01:11 PM
Wow..... I need more popcorn.

CJ54
12-17-2013, 02:28 PM
I'm locking this thread because this has gotten utterly ridiculous, but wanted to drop this first: There is no hack here. There are a number of people out there who think that they are pulling an energy cheat because of the way the client displays info when you are not connected to the server, but it does. Not. Do anything.