Congrats to TKO...

[honest Abe]

...on the most expensive third place to date! Merry Christmas gree!

[Blade of 3]

Much of it was most likely 40% off and bonus gold. Still a lot though.

[Thief]

I'm sure it had more to do with trying to get wins than overtake SUP2....Then again i could be wrong.

[Genen]

Congratulation to Bend Over and his compadre Rip and to entire penguin nation. 40 million over fourth place wow. Old Papa Duck Ferr laughing his butt off. At least he managed keep you on second place. But well good luck next time my dear birds.

[camper killer]

First World Problems.......


some are dumber than others.

[Asto]

I wonder if there will be a 40% off on Christmas Day. Perfect timing for the world domination so a great chance for GREEdy to cash in (which is why they probably chose the start date to be the 27th of December, just 2 days after Christmas, hmmmmm I wonder). I wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

[Thief]

Congratulation to Bend Over and his compadre Rip and to entire penguin nation. 40 million over fourth place wow. Old Papa Duck Ferr laughing his butt off. At least he managed keep you on second place. But well good luck next time my dear birds.

Wow TKO had 65 Million points? I know my Leaderboard was Frozen and all but they really made a good last minute push.

[Mighty Min]

...on the most expensive third place to date! Merry Christmas gree!

LMAO - how about dumbest runners for nothing # 1 and # 2 places = equally dumbest just like # 3 for such overkill

[Cameltoe]

The jokes on you. How much more did you have to spend to keep your silly 2nd place? You might want to clean those bird droppings on your head.

[what up brah!]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all….

[Judas Goat]

TKO has a strategy and its working . I'm happy to see no one has caught on, YET!

[goldacre84]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all….

Wowwwwsaaaa

[Mighty Min]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all….

or maybe it's SUPer idiots clinging on that top1-2 spot like dumbest ever GREEd geeks laughing their arses off in the end it's GREEd winner not some deuches thinking they won # 1 or # 2 or # 3 - all virtual illusion, trap for fools that feed the GREEd in the end they all lose sore arseholes

[CJ D]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all….

So they should quit playing how they want to play so you can play how you want to play? STFU.

[Hooligany]

Wow TKO had 65 Million points? I know my Leaderboard was Frozen and all but they really made a good last minute push.
That was wat I was thinking too. Did tko finished with 66mil n only in 3rd?

[lemonhaze]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all…. LOL u mean they are still playing with destrucitbale units...thats their own problem they give so many ID units no one should base thier stats on fake units that will die

[S&H Max]

thats losing 4 unit per 10 loses seems a little high to me.

Maybe Lemonhaze as a golden army, but we dont all have, but useually there a few mil valor un-used somewhere... they are great to compensate the 1000-1500 unit that are not golden in your army!

[lemonhaze]

thats losing 4 unit per 10 loses seems a little high to me.

Maybe Lemonhaze as a golden army, but we dont all have, but useually there a few mil valor un-used somewhere... they are great to compensate the 1000-1500 unit that are not golden in your army! i got so much valor now im hanging onto it and see if they update the valor units..but ur right about that 4 units per 10 loses is extreamly high

[Hupernikomen]

Actually, i think that tko deserves kudos for not bowing to sup. How much fun is it to be a drone for the sup nation? I can't imagine spending like sup2 and not being allowed to push for top spot. Tko is the last bastion of hope of breaking that hegemony up! More power to them. Good theatre.

Cracks me up that some of these top dogs have buyers remorse after fighting to earn that #1 or #2 spot. If you don't want to blow your cash, don't!!

[Generik79]

Guys, 40% off equals more WD spending every time, which equals no 40% savings as the gold is chewed. Think it over.

[DTA-HOG]

I'm sure it's going to get more expensive each week. Suckers......

[Speed ump]

Hey judas, I see their strategy. I heard they had contacted guiness world records. They were seeking a new category. Most spent while not achieving top prize in MW. Their name will live on long past the actual top teams, since I don't believe SUP has asked for a new category. And really top whatever in some online game just dosnt seem as exciting as their category.

[Speed ump]

huper, why the obvious hate ( troll). Drone means bland, no thought of their own, hive mind. I've seen many many post in the game over the last two years. I'd have to say the SUP members as a while seem to use the most imaginative posting, most ordinal ideas and thoughts to bring life to things. Say what you want, but they have managed to elicite a lot of reaction and started a lot of discussions. While quite a large number display obvious jealousy, they also seem to have created quite a following. It's the nature of people who are unhappy to express themselves more than those who are, therefore the number of negative posts.

[Hupernikomen]

huper, why the obvious hate ( troll). Drone means bland, no thought of their own, hive mind. I've seen many many post in the game over the last two years. I'd have to say the SUP members as a while seem to use the most imaginative posting, most ordinal ideas and thoughts to bring life to things. Say what you want, but they have managed to elicite a lot of reaction and started a lot of discussions. While quite a large number display obvious jealousy, they also seem to have created quite a following. It's the nature of people who are unhappy to express themselves more than those who are, therefore the number of negative posts.

Not trolling, but coming to the defense of some of my tko friends. Sup enjoys bemoaning tko running up the score. Sup has desperately tried to stay #1 at the cheapest cost possible which is why pirate tried to hijack the game over and over ala the cartel. Now you have the sup drone faction of sup 2 that very much toes the line but isn't allowed to cross it. Good theatre. I am will continue to pull for the underdog against the establishment, and i dare say i am not alone in that sentiment.

[Ben Dover 300]

You should be patting yourself on your back. Riddler and I made a plan and you and rt didn't like it. We owe this all to you. You asked for it and you got it. We still had 15 people without 1500 wins and only 57 on roster and 1 mole. I guess the scoring will be higher next time. You do know more then half of TKO have no idea why you say penguin. You have to be one of the dumbest people I have met in this game. You get what you want then complain?


Congratulation to Bend Over and his compadre Rip and to entire penguin nation. 40 million over fourth place wow. Old Papa Duck Ferr laughing his butt off. At least he managed keep you on second place. But well good luck next time my dear birds.

[Ben Dover 300]

See now you are a smart person unlike the dummy in the other post. We faced gsf 4 times, sup2 twice, sup1 twice that's 25 million in those 8 battles. Plus people having to score 1500 wins and 50 additional wars.


I'm sure it had more to do with trying to get wins than overtake SUP2....Then again i could be wrong.

[namv961]

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[Ben Dover 300]

Not only are they playing with a destructible army but 3600 units lost in 9000 losses and high stat destructible units lost 1.4 million in stats. Maybe that level 300 person needs to not be part of your team, seems like they have real low stats for their level. But yes that's tko's fault.


LOL u mean they are still playing with destrucitbale units...thats their own problem they give so many ID units no one should base thier stats on fake units that will die

[Speed ump]

Ben, if there are people who did not get to 1500 wins, at our level, I'd suggest it's time to find replacements, your top guys are carrying too much of the load to cover, it's not fair. Huper, I was never part of the cartel. The one time I did speak to them was not a pleasant experience, as they were attempting to tell me that one of our smaller factions could not be in top ten. Needles to say that did not go over well, nor were they happy with the outcome. Just, that's where you don't understand the mechanics of the way we are organized. Sp2 players do get to share in the prizes, and we have systems for that.i think you will find many of them have the top prizes from different events in their inventories. We are one team in effect, with so many members that we need more that one shell, called a faction to play in. For that matter we could just as easily move everyone from one to the other. You seem to think we pull the strings like a puppeteer ( we both know you're just trying to piss people off, that's ok, you're not very good at it) anyone who has been in sup can tell you it's much different than the trolls would have everyone believing.

[kelvinng]

You should be patting yourself on your back. Riddler and I made a plan and you and rt didn't like it. We owe this all to you. You asked for it and you got it. We still had 15 people without 1500 wins and only 57 on roster and 1 mole. I guess the scoring will be higher next time. You do know more then half of TKO have no idea why you say penguin. You have to be one of the dumbest people I have met in this game. You get what you want then complain?

Ben,

i assume 41 of you make up the main bulk of 59m bp last war. Base on what you have said, i assume your gold will be at minimum or almost depleted by now, i hope you wont be a dead weight to TKO come cuba.

Enjoy your retirement , care less and talk less bird.

Base on above assumption

Either you will become a dead weight come cube in cuba

or

You are a man of no back bone can carrying on spending

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?76069-This-is-the-end


http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?76069-This-is-the-end

[Genen]

You should be patting yourself on your back. Riddler and I made a plan and you and rt didn't like it. We owe this all to you. You asked for it and you got it. We still had 15 people without 1500 wins and only 57 on roster and 1 mole. I guess the scoring will be higher next time. You do know more then half of TKO have no idea why you say penguin. You have to be one of the dumbest people I have met in this game. You get what you want then complain?
Well I think there are lot of confusion, lies and idiocy in the postings. It's nothing new for this forum, but with Bend Over very has been active lately it's added new dimension to the lunacy and misrepresentation of the facts. I am not very often posting here, because I have found that most people have already made their opinions and will be repeating the the same idiotic themes over and over again based on their biases or lack of understanding of the MW dynamics. So let me give some MW history overview and clear some things up.
Before WD and beginning of WD periods .
More than a year ago before factions were officially have established a group of strong players started to organize and called themselves pirates. They were able to communicate via chat and soon due to their strength and organization they have became a dominant force in MW.
Another group of the strong players decided to challenge pirates and created gang called Royal Navy. Pirates and Royal Navy fought hard each other for more than a year before and after WD started, but most of the time it was without nastiness and people from both groups were able maintain mutual respect for each other.
Upon factions formation pirates organized into PUN (Pirate United Nation) and Royal Navy organized into Superfaction (named after its at the time leader Super Girl).
I am not sure what Ferr was doing and how he got organized before WD. If he interested he can jump in and add history of his faction.

[camper killer]

This may sound a little dated, but of the original, and I do mean original Penguins from Brazil, how many are left.

now I can only think of one, Chang, which is why I say this question is dated.....

With so few of the originals left this is effectively a very different team. Granted they have "grown up" in the shadow of the Penguin legacy, but we might have to rethink how we handle these type of issues.

[Genen]

I think Ken too.

[Genen]

Top 3 faction at beginning WD period and progression.
Since first battle of Brazil PUN captured first place and lost only one battle when they have really competed (they havefew battle lost due to tactical consideration to SUP2).
Ferr created faction Ferr Emperors. Soon due to the names similarities a lot of people in the MW community started to call them Emperor Penguins or just penguins or birds. Also from the first battle Ferr became second place faction. From what I was able to learn he has been organized in the manner of corporation with Board consisting of the several strong players and Ferr I guess as CEO or Chairman of the Board. Ferr tried to keep his faction clean and created extensive bi-laws were he established high morale standards for his members from banning hackers, prohibiting trash talk etc. Alsofrom the beginning of his faction its ultimate goal was to dethrone PUN from the first place by running scores up and ultimately bankrupting PUN members.
Superfaction at the beginning was very disorganized group without clear goals or direction with top 20 people carrying 80 to 90% of the scoring. However due to several lucky breaks Superfaction started to evolve. First was help from Hello Kitty (original ACE member and that fought for Superfaction in Greenland) who introduced us to the Intel gathering and effective scoring based on her experience with ACE. Also at the same time Superfaction changed it's membership requirements and established mandatory equal scoring by all its members and started to purging free loaders. Superfaction after couple failed attempts to overtake Ferr established itself as a strong number 3 team.

[Judas Goat]

History lessons depend on who's talking. My history teacher Miss Fentress said ask the lion to tell you about the brave hunter and the story don't sound so brave. It make the brave hunter look like a sneaky coward. I like Miss Fentress. Ain't no brave hunters or beautiful lions in this game either.

[honest Abe]

Wow, gene is playing history professor today.

[Genen]

History lessons depend on who's talking. My history teacher Miss Fentress said ask the lion to tell you about the brave hunter and the story don't sound so brave. It make the brave hunter look like a sneaky coward. I like Miss Fentress. Ain't no brave hunters or beautiful lions in this game either.
Do you have facts otherwise?

[DTA-HOG]

Pretty cool stories of the beginnings of top factions I must say. I'm actually beginning to earn a little respect for them.

[Genen]

SUP and Cartel creation
Overtime due to several mergers with Marauders and World Domination League Ferr has grew stronger and was able to recruit high scores like RIPPER, Ben Dover and several others and lunched well planned assault on PUN in the battle of Ireland. It was most expensive battle in the history of MW and Ferr team have scored 85 million points and came within 1.5 million defeating PUN.
During this battle limited cooperation between PUN and Superfaction has been established and after battle was over leadership of both factions decided to use a novel idea and create new team. Opposite to the mergers that many teams tried and mostly failed, we decided to create a single team bounded only by 60 people roster size. Team would have a joint leadership and will be built on scoring capabilities of its players. In another words the team 1 would be maintaining it's first place with minimum 1 million points requirements and team 2 will maintain its third position for the time been with minimum of 450k requirements. To maintain legacies of each team the new factions were re named to Super United Faction 1 and 2.
Ultimate goals were also established. First to defeat Ferr's ambitions of reaching number one place and ultimately cut skyrocketing spending spree during battles. Second long term goal for SUP2 defeating Ferr and move to second place. This arraignment benefited both factions. SUP1 would get injection of new blood of high scoring players from sup2 and will have access to intel during WD. At the same time loyal high scoring players SUP2 players who did not want to leave their teammates can rotate for battle or 2 to the sup1 and have a shot of getting well deserved top prizes.
At the same time cartel was created. Due to confusion and misconceptions a lot of people identified Cartel and SUP as the same entities but this is a false assumption. Cartel was founded by top 10 team at that time and SUP2. It consisted of ACE, SUP2, gsf, McGurt, VFF and Dogs of War. Later different teams left and joined cartel (www, gunners) SUP1 was never part of the cartel and Cartel was run by its own charter. The main provisions of the Cartel were sharing intel by join scouting, maintain updated leader board for factions 4 to 25, and setting ceiling cap on maximum wd points to avoid unnecessary spending. However it was one imo opinion controversial provision to the cartel charter. It stated that cartel teams has to attack non cartel factions during WDs if they decide to challenge top 10 position without Cartel's approval. Although cartel teams followed this provisions only for 1 or 2 battle against JK, Original Black Ops and TBC it created accusation of bulling, bad blood and resentment to cartel and by default against SUP. Ferr found a way to exploit it and recruit top players from the factions who were bullied.

[Ben Dover 300]

I don't know what you are referring to. I didn't say anything about Sup2 not being able to get units or sup not having the ability to move players around. There are two dummies from Sup2 that caused this spending to get out of control. You are very aware of what we tried to create and who did not follow. I agree anyone in a top 3 teams that does not have 1500 wins should be replaced.

I think you are mistaken about me trying to piss off anyone. Genen is trying to piss people off. I replied to his dumb post. I agreed and told thief how he is wise.

I think this time you are mistaken as to what you think I posted.


Ben, if there are people who did not get to 1500 wins, at our level, I'd suggest it's time to find replacements, your top guys are carrying too much of the load to cover, it's not fair. Huper, I was never part of the cartel. The one time I did speak to them was not a pleasant experience, as they were attempting to tell me that one of our smaller factions could not be in top ten. Needles to say that did not go over well, nor were they happy with the outcome. Just, that's where you don't understand the mechanics of the way we are organized. Sp2 players do get to share in the prizes, and we have systems for that.i think you will find many of them have the top prizes from different events in their inventories. We are one team in effect, with so many members that we need more that one shell, called a faction to play in. For that matter we could just as easily move everyone from one to the other. You seem to think we pull the strings like a puppeteer ( we both know you're just trying to piss people off, that's ok, you're not very good at it) anyone who has been in sup can tell you it's much different than the trolls would have everyone believing.

[Ben Dover 300]

I get so bored when you write I can't even finish reading it. When you write are you looking in a mirror? It appears you are writing to yourself.


Well I think there are lot of confusion, lies and idiocy in the postings. It's nothing new for this forum, but with Bend Over very has been active lately it's added new dimension to the lunacy and misrepresentation of the facts. I am not very often posting here, because I have found that most people have already made their opinions and will be repeating the the same idiotic themes over and over again based on their biases or lack of understanding of the MW dynamics. So let me give some MW history overview and clear some things up.
Before WD and beginning of WD periods .
More than a year ago before factions were officially have established a group of strong players started to organize and called themselves pirates. They were able to communicate via chat and soon due to their strength and organization they have became a dominant force in MW.
Another group of the strong players decided to challenge pirates and created gang called Royal Navy. Pirates and Royal Navy fought hard each other for more than a year before and after WD started, but most of the time it was without nastiness and people from both groups were able maintain mutual respect for each other.
Upon factions formation pirates organized into PUN (Pirate United Nation) and Royal Navy organized into Superfaction (named after its at the time leader Super Girl).
I am not sure what Ferr was doing and how he got organized before WD. If he interested he can jump in and add history of his faction.

[Ben Dover 300]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ getting sleepy, eyes closing.


Top 3 faction at beginning WD period and progression.
Since first battle of Brazil PUN captured first place and lost only one battle when they have really competed (they havefew battle lost due to tactical consideration to SUP2).
Ferr created faction Ferr Emperors. Soon due to the names similarities a lot of people in the MW community started to call them Emperor Penguins or just penguins or birds. Also from the first battle Ferr became second place faction. From what I was able to learn he has been organized in the manner of corporation with Board consisting of the several strong players and Ferr I guess as CEO or Chairman of the Board. Ferr tried to keep his faction clean and created extensive bi-laws were he established high morale standards for his members from banning hackers, prohibiting trash talk etc. Alsofrom the beginning of his faction its ultimate goal was to dethrone PUN from the first place by running scores up and ultimately bankrupting PUN members.
Superfaction at the beginning was very disorganized group without clear goals or direction with top 20 people carrying 80 to 90% of the scoring. However due to several lucky breaks Superfaction started to evolve. First was help from Hello Kitty (original ACE member and that fought for Superfaction in Greenland) who introduced us to the Intel gathering and effective scoring based on her experience with ACE. Also at the same time Superfaction changed it's membership requirements and established mandatory equal scoring by all its members and started to purging free loaders. Superfaction after couple failed attempts to overtake Ferr established itself as a strong number 3 team.

[Ben Dover 300]

How old are you? UH oh. Peer pressure and name calling. I guess you're about 14 or 15 right?


Ben,

i assume 41 of you make up the main bulk of 59m bp last war. Base on what you have said, i assume your gold will be at minimum or almost depleted by now, i hope you wont be a dead weight to TKO come cuba.

Enjoy your retirement , care less and talk less bird.

Base on above assumption

Either you will become a dead weight come cube in cuba

or

You are a man of no back bone can carrying on spending

http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?76069-This-is-the-end


http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?76069-This-is-the-end

[Speed ump]

Data, we are all just normal people. All different walks of life, not a single gree employee in the bunch, despite what some would like you to believe. I think that if it wernt for the people we have met here that probably very few of us would still be here today. The social part of what we created has held us all together. The pirates were the first organized group in this game. Royal Navy was the second, and really on,y other one until wd came out. It was based on things the pirates began, and most of the strategy factions have used eve loved from what they created and started. It was never going to be a fair match, not for the negative reasons posted in the forums, but because we started with the biggest most powerful players in the game, created a social environment that no one else had at the time, and developed strategies to adress continual changes in the game. That dosnt take anything away from what others have done. TKO, previously ferr, have managed to do very well without the resources that the pirates have. Gsf has proven that you don't have to be the biggest kid on the block to make your presence felt, and use a different approach to their game.

[Genen]

How old are you? UH oh. Peer pressure and name calling. I guess you're about 14 or 15 right?
Ben I am not done yet. Wait until I will get to the current events and you personally and may be if you annoy me enough I will start to post screenshots with your dealings. So you if you bored do not read and stop trolling.

[Genen]

Maybe, why you asking? You mr quiz master or something?
Got you. Troll away

[Ben Dover 300]

Can I get a translation on this please? You are going to post screen shots of current events and me personally?


Ben I am not done yet. Wait until I will get to the current events and you personally and may be if you annoy me enough I will start to post screenshots with your dealings. So you if you bored do not read and stop trolling.

[Speed ump]

Ben, forgot to list the names of the ones I was responding too on some of my posts. I tend to answer to several in the same post, and noticed that it all ran together. Wasn't trying to say you were pissing people off, it was one of the trolls posts that I was responding too. Guess I need to make seperate posts for each one I'm responding too. There's about three in that one, and were not all meant to be in response to yours. Sorry for the confusion.

[Genen]

Can I get a translation on this please? You are going to post screen shots of current events and me personally?
Ben I told you if you annoy me enough I will create tweeter account and you will enjoy reading it. And not I will not violate rules of this forum. Now go to sleep or do whatever you do when you bored.

[Ben Dover 300]

Thanks for clarifying. Appreciate all you do. I don't understand why you associate yourself with the dummy though. He has to be an embarrassment to you.


Ben, forgot to list the names of the ones I was responding too on some of my posts. I tend to answer to several in the same post, and noticed that it all ran together. Wasn't trying to say you were pissing people off, it was one of the trolls posts that I was responding too. Guess I need to make seperate posts for each one I'm responding too. There's about three in that one, and were not all meant to be in response to yours. Sorry for the confusion.

[camper killer]

Thanks for clarifying. Appreciate all you do. I don't understand why you associate yourself with the dummy though. He has to be an embarrassment to you.

Its hard to understand but the people in our group are great people.

Just like your team we all have egos and we let them talk more than anything else.

What you see with Gene is facade. The man behind the account is bit more surprising if you get to know him.

Ask him about the times when he and I were fighting before SF merged with PUN.

Yes Gene may seem different and strange, but the man does know what he is talking about.

[Ben Dover 300]

I agree there are some great people in you're group. You have to admit there are a few donkeys in you're group too.


Its hard to understand but the people in our group are great people.

Just like your team we all have egos and we let them talk more than anything else.

What you see with Gene is facade. The man behind the account is bit more surprising if you get to know him.

Ask him about the times when he and I were fighting before SF merged with PUN.

Yes Gene may seem different and strange, but the man does know what he is talking about.

[Genen]

Demise of the Ferr faction
After their creation and with benefits of the cartel the SUP factions ultimately started to build up on new arrangements. SUP1 was able with greater ease to maintain comfortable points margin between first and second places and SUP2 reduced unnecessary spending and maintained comfortable third place position while building winning team.
Soon after Ferr realized that he is in the tough position and it was getting worse with each battle. This is when he desperately tried to parrot SUP and build his own coalition. First he allied himself with Dogs of War, who left cartel with lies and deceit. Later he brought JK, We Fight All and some other minor factions under his umbrella and I think gunners at some extent. But since he did not understand the basic SUP concept despite some of our members posted it repeatedly what he ended up just skimming top scorers from these factions and either running these teams from existence or reducing them to minor players in WD.
Also I do not know for sure either Ferr lost control of his team or it was intentional lowering of standards as his faction grew more desperate with each battle they engaged in nasty postings sometimes with racist and hateful remarks.
At the same time Ferr became frequent visitor to this forum and initiated multiple threads. Most of them were promises of the next battle will be epic and by end of this period he will definitely defeat SUP1 for sure. And it always was accompanied by high pitch rhetoric of him been warrior against tyranny and SUP is evil. But more or less it was a demagoguery of over ambitious man that tried really hard to achieve his goal and did not succeeded. But he was still chasing his White Whale and pushing his followers to spend in hopeless battles. Overtime more and more members of his team became disillusioned and started to join SUP teams and were really surprised how much they have been lie to about SUP.
Then Battle of India came and SUP2 was loaded and ready and defeated Ferr.
As we expected after this defeat Ferr faced rebellion. His top 3 lieutenants with Ben Dover and RIPPER are 2 of them threatened to leave and he in order to remain any dignity left in him prevented them and posted that he would retire and left the faction that he founded and built. So for Ferr worshipers and I think there are still few on this forum he did not retired because "GREE greed" or whatever other reason he stated, but he was chased out from his faction.

[Ryans67]

Loving the history lesson. ;)

[Ben Dover 300]

History lesson? History as told through the eyes of a schizo who thinks this game is real life and of course his version is the only true version. Well his version this hour, because he will change it later, or maybe he won't, or maybe he will. What who said that? Wait are you talking to me? He might be looking in the mirror again. At least his last post didn't put me to sle


Loving the history lesson. ;)

[Ben Dover 300]

ooops I did fall asleep

[Genen]

ooops I did fall asleep
Ben keep projecting. Next installment and I will dedicate to you and TKO lol

[Ben Dover 300]

Bully. Keep threatening tough guy I won't threaten.


Ben keep projecting. Next installment and I will dedicate to you and TKO lol

[Elite Enforcer]

Demise of the Ferr faction
After their creation and with benefits of the cartel the SUP factions ultimately started to build up on new arrangements. SUP1 was able with greater ease to maintain comfortable points margin between first and second places and SUP2 reduced unnecessary spending and maintained comfortable third place position while building winning team.
Soon after Ferr realized that he is in the tough position and it was getting worse with each battle. This is when he desperately tried to parrot SUP and build his own coalition. First he allied himself with Dogs of War, who left cartel with lies and deceit. Later he brought JK, We Fight All and some other minor factions under his umbrella and I think gunners at some extent. But since he did not understand the basic SUP concept despite some of our members posted it repeatedly what he ended up just skimming top scorers from these factions and either running these teams from existence or reducing them to minor players in WD.
Also I do not know for sure either Ferr lost control of his team or it was intentional lowering of standards as his faction grew more desperate with each battle they engaged in nasty postings sometimes with racist and hateful remarks.
At the same time Ferr became frequent visitor to this forum and initiated multiple threads. Most of them were promises of the next battle will be epic and by end of this period he will definitely defeat SUP1 for sure. And it always was accompanied by high pitch rhetoric of him been warrior against tyranny and SUP is evil. But more or less it was a demagoguery of over ambitious man that tried really hard to achieve his goal and did not succeeded. But he was still chasing his White Whale and pushing his followers to spend in hopeless battles. Overtime more and more members of his team became disillusioned and started to join SUP teams and were really surprised how much they have been lie to about SUP.
Then Battle of India came and SUP2 was loaded and ready and defeated Ferr.
As we expected after this defeat Ferr faced rebellion. His top 3 lieutenants with Ben Dover and RIPPER are 2 of them threatened to leave and he in order to remain any dignity left in him prevented them and posted that he would retire and left the faction that he founded and built. So for Ferr worshipers and I think there are still few on this forum he did not retired because "GREE greed" or whatever other reason he stated, but he was chased out from his faction.

Wow....this game must be your life.

[Genen]

Wow....this game must be your life.
I have to admit I spent more time than I should playing it. But I almost never post here so I thought my experience been in with top factions could benefit some people on this forum plus a bit of the tired of unstable demagogues spreading constant lies about my faction and my friends.

[camper killer]

I have to admit I spent more time than I should playing it. But I almost never post here so I thought my experience been in with top factions could benefit some people on this forum plus a bit of the tired of unstable demagogues spreading constant lies about my faction and my friends.

I swear I only lied one or two times.....

and she was 18......

[Elite Enforcer]

Well I just read your essay and thought it was abit long. Well good luck to you. I'm not trolling just found it way to deep. By the way, you top dogs in this game fight way to much, it also costs your pockets more.

[Judas Goat]

Wow....this game must be your life.

You got that right, but he ain't the only one. S

Some of them think they're real generals and leaders, too... :confused:

[CJ54]

Let's keep it relatively polite, folks.

[Genen]

Let's keep it relatively polite, folks.
I will try my best CJ and I think kept it civil on my part.

[Speed ump]

I even saw what one guy is doing that's addicted so bad he can't see straight. He pretends he's looking up people's names and insinuating past criminal activity on his twitter page. Obviously obsessed, plus sets him up for legal action for slander. . Why do so many take a nice fun game and try to turn it into something else. I'd suggest if anyone has let the game get to them that much, it really is time to step away and leave, much like an alcoholic should stop drinking.

[Skyser30518]

Data, we are all just normal people. All different walks of life, not a single gree employee in the bunch, despite what some would like you to believe. I think that if it wernt for the people we have met here that probably very few of us would still be here today. The social part of what we created has held us all together. The pirates were the first organized group in this game. Royal Navy was the second, and really on,y other one until wd came out. It was based on things the pirates began, and most of the strategy factions have used eve loved from what they created and started. It was never going to be a fair match, not for the negative reasons posted in the forums, but because we started with the biggest most powerful players in the game, created a social environment that no one else had at the time, and developed strategies to adress continual changes in the game. That dosnt take anything away from what others have done. TKO, previously ferr, have managed to do very well without the resources that the pirates have. Gsf has proven that you don't have to be the biggest kid on the block to make your presence felt, and use a different approach to their game.

Thank you for the honorable mention Speed.

[Hondo]

Speed, are you sure no one in your faction works for Gree? I'm not saying you cheat, but rather someone to take care of their best customers. Would be easy enough I would think.

Gene, I've often wondered why all the hate towards Ferr's Emperers/TKO on this forum. It always struck me as sore winners.

[Allday]

Speed, are you sure no one in your faction works for Gree? I'm not saying you cheat, but rather someone to take care of their best customers. Would be easy enough I would think.

Gene, I've often wondered why all the hate towards Ferr's Emperers/TKO on this forum. It always struck me as sore winners.
Hondo good to hear from you again, I hope RED is still intact and Starling is doing good. Having said that, I've often wondered why all the hate towards SUP. It always struck me as sore losers.

[Hondo]

Hondo good to hear from you again, I hope RED is still intact and Starling is doing good. Having said that, I've often wondered why all the hate towards SUP. It always struck me as sore losers.

Very good point. I reckon it goes both ways.

Things are good on my end. Im sad to say I haven't heard from Starling. He has a bit more will power than I do.

[Ben Dover 300]

I can tell you. We tried working with them. I admire what sup has created and have been able to hold on to. Like I said earlier they have a bunch of really good players. They allowed a few to ruin what we tried to create and now everyone had to open their wallets. You didn't see a thread started by TKO saying anything. I just don't understand how the guy that is never on the number 1 team has so much to say. I really feel bad that this game is his entire life. If you mention a player he knows what faction they are in and the persons stats and level. It wasn't til I actual read this entirely did I see how disturbing his behavior really is. I cannot participate in this anymore. It's too sad and pathetic. I just wanted to say that sup2 was very upset that sup1 and TKO tried working together to curb the spending. Sup2 and gsf have worked together to try to teach sup1 and TKO a lesson. Now you have the truth.


Hondo good to hear from you again, I hope RED is still intact and Starling is doing good. Having said that, I've often wondered why all the hate towards SUP. It always struck me as sore losers.

[DTA-HOG]

For what it's worth, I have gained quite a bit if respect for the top teams after reading this thread in its entirety. I apologize of my negative thoughts and stupid comments I've made about you guys in the past. I'm the same as you guys... just trying to kill some time and have fun in the process. You guys just open up your wallets a little bit wider than I. I do hope everyone can learn to work together though and cut the massive spending the top 3 does every month. It's been obvious to me in the 3 months I've been playing the game that the top 3 positions aren't going to change. If you are tired of being number 3... Join #1. The prizes aren't that great. Add 5 allies? What a joke.

[09231982]

I cant see how gsf could teach s1 any thing we fight simply to survive not to attack or threaten any one in top 3. I am sorry if a team doest like it that we dont lay down when they face us just because thier top three. Global Strike Force is a group of fighters with alot of pride but we arent stupid, I spend many hours trying to avoid top 3 not threaten nor teach them any thing. And obviously sup1 aka pun dont need to learn any thing seeing that they are #1 every war. We arent stupid we try to whats best for our team which is avoid top 3 not try to give them lessons

[Emerald_]

Well, at least now I know why boss 100 has a billion health.

[Speed ump]

Emerald it looks they they try to make it more difficult for the strongest players, and end up making it next to I possible for the ones who are not.

[justsomedood5]

Sup2 and gsf have worked together to try to teach sup1 and TKO a lesson. Now you have the truth.

Dude I generally think you are a solid guy but this is garbage. GSF is the only independent faction among the big dogs. As you well know, TKO agreed to a point cap just a couple wars ago with the sups, so please get off your high horse.

[Ben Dover 300]

No high horse here. You get some intel from people in sup2. I've seen the screen shots and I have been told, directly, that sup2 has worked with gsf because they are mad that sup1 and TKO tried making a deal. A deal we feel would have helped this game and all the players in it. I think gsf is one of the smartest factions in the game and I didn't say anything negative about them. No garbage no horses here. Just truth and facts.


Dude I generally think you are a solid guy but this is garbage. GSF is the only independent faction among the big dogs. As you well know, TKO agreed to a point cap just a couple wars ago with the sups, so please get off your high horse.

[beast1985]

I just want to say thank you to TKO for running up the score. Let God Sort Them Out got matched with SUP2 for their final battle and while they scored close to 4 million WD points against us in 1 hour, one of our top players went from 250 losses to over 9,000 losses, and also lost about 1.4million attack and defense and over 3600 destructible units! Anyways we can all laugh about it now, but, STOP SCREWING UP THE GAME FOR EVERYONE ELSE, YOUR NOT BATING SUP! that is all….

not TKOs fault ur guy doesn't have a golden army. he got hammered so what. its a freaking game man and if u aren't man enough to take it then quit.

plus god sorted it out and he got his ass handed to him. guess god wasn't on his side

[beast1985]

Ben, if there are people who did not get to 1500 wins, at our level, I'd suggest it's time to find replacements, your top guys are carrying too much of the load to cover, it's not fair. Huper, I was never part of the cartel. The one time I did speak to them was not a pleasant experience, as they were attempting to tell me that one of our smaller factions could not be in top ten. Needles to say that did not go over well, nor were they happy with the outcome. Just, that's where you don't understand the mechanics of the way we are organized. Sp2 players do get to share in the prizes, and we have systems for that.i think you will find many of them have the top prizes from different events in their inventories. We are one team in effect, with so many members that we need more that one shell, called a faction to play in. For that matter we could just as easily move everyone from one to the other. You seem to think we pull the strings like a puppeteer ( we both know you're just trying to piss people off, that's ok, you're not very good at it) anyone who has been in sup can tell you it's much different than the trolls would have everyone believing.

hey speed bump: which sup u in? I wonder if micky hack helps u too??

sup has a distinct advantage of having a gree employed hacker in their faction who is known to be hacking into peoples accounts and spying on them and adjusting their inventories

[Genen]

TKO and SUP
After battle of India and Ferr forced departure Ben Dover on behalf of the TKO approached SUP leadership and beg us to cooperate with his faction. In return of not matching them by top 2 SUP teams during the upcoming battles he promised that TKO will settle for third place and will put cap on WD points. Probably still euphoric after defeat of Ferr and despite our better judgement we are including myself agreed to this arrangement. We have relatively pleasant conversations and introductions created separate chat rooms for coordination and during next battle it was more or less in the boundaries of the cooperation. But as soon as battle of France was over problems start to arise. It's started with insistence of 2 TKO leaders Ben Dover and RIPPER for SUP teams stop raiding and attacking TKO members. When we try to explain them that raiding and attacking is part of the game that makes it more enjoyable they did not wanna hear any of it. So anytime he got raided Ben would jump to the chatroom and start incense cursing about SUP person he just got raided by. And it was non stop on and on. I never saw somebody so prominent and strong would so angered and upset about the normal course of events. Also despite he and RIPPER were told that SUP1 and SUP2 is a one team with joint leadership they demonstratively tried to have separate negotiations and arrangements with SUP1 leaders and IMO intentionally so to drive a wedge between us. When 2 of them saw that SUP2 will not follow any agreement that we did not participate to negotiate MW type blackmailing started. Ben told us because we are raiding him and his penguins they will jack up prices again by running cost up. And when we tried to explain him that raids does not cost him any gold he just left chat. The bottom line is that TKO wanted all the benefits to be the SUP team but without making official.
Also Ben Dover and RIPPER constantly were pushing for SUP 1 or 2 bust gsf streaks and claimed they have a mole in gsf who will declare in the right time. As last battle indicated they had or still have mole in gsf who declared to match TKO and gsf in the last hours of the war and enable TKO score high points. Leadership of SUP2 firmly and openly indicated to TKO masters that it will not be in SUP2 interest matching gsf for various reasons it cause Ben Dover go to his usual rants, wild accusations and cursing. After he realized that SUP2 will not play alone Ben Dover start to back channel to gsf in order for them ambush SUP2 and break our streaks.
Now regarding the plan it never was a plan on spending cuts presented to leadership of SUP2 and I am pretty sure no plan was presented to SUP1 leaders.
But Ben Dover can lie and clain but facts are stubborn thing to ignore. From this excerpts we can see with each consecutive battle TKO outscored their closest rivals by increasing margin without any possible reason while claiming they are ok with 3rd place:
Battle of France over 11 million;
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 37024362
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 32870629
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS LEGENDS 26670330
4 DOGS of WAR 15273128
Mexico 11 million:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 36142343
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 34178927
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 32511798
4 TheGunners 21572480
Italy 16 million:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 48240938
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 45301262
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 38685450
4 Global Strike Force 22407184
Netherlands 33 million points:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 61871438
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 60828649
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 58278492
4 Celestial Army Generals 25930158
Anybody who can read and understand these numbers cans see that SUP1 and SUP2 did not ran scores up but just maintain enough gap to maintain our first and second positions. Only TKO was able to push us score higher and drive cost for us and most importunately also spending of their players.
But final nail to the coffin of the cooperation between SUP and TKO happen as follows. When SUP leaders got fed up by TKO's broken promises of score capping we asked if they are ready to commit to the caps in next battle. RIPPER for almost days of silence came to chat and demanded that SUP2 will give up it's second place to TKO and next time SUP1 will gave up their first place to TKO too, i.e. we will rotate 1-2-3 places. When we inquired why SUP teams will agree to that his exact words were "because TKO deserved". We have responded that SUP2 never demanded Ferr give up his second place but beat them fair and squire and RIPPER jumped back to so typical tactic that TKO used over all this period - extortion. He posted wild claimed about his huge gold reserves and that he alone will score 20 million with Ben Dover 15 million and total TKO will go for 120 million. This is was pretty much end of this ill conceived deal.
In the end couple words to the current and future TKO members. I know you are excited and pumped about your perceived successes in the last battle. But if you look what did you achieve you will see that you got hosed. Ypou made only thru 9/9 streaks. You match SUP teams 4 times you lost 2 times to SUP1 even without putting up fight you wan 1 over SUP2 and you lost one to SUP2. You overspent 38 million points chasing second place and this is somewhere between $40-45 k spent on gold at 20% sale that your leaders made you take from your families and flash in the toilet.
People who kicked Ferr out for the same kind of leadership and strategies now leading you, but they do not have class and manners that Ferr at least had. They will promise you that nexr battle will be epic and one more push and you will get this White Whale. Well mark my words it will not happen you will be outsmarted, overpowered and if needed overspent as always happened before. So you have a choice blindly follow personal ambitions and egos of RIPPER or lunacy of Ben Dover who lies every time his lips move or every time his fingers reach keyboard. Or you can join SUP teaqm of your choice like dozens former Ferr players did and get rewards worth of your spending and leadership that put team ahead of themselves.
Lastly my couple words for mole that RIPPER planted to gsf. Shame on you. I will not trash you like Ben Dover has done on this forum or tell you here who you are. But I know exactly who it is. You betrayed your teammates and your old friends who always gave you support and comfort when you needed. Mark my words when Ben Dovers and RIPPERS of the world will be done with you they will dispose you like used condom, but this time you will not have anybody to come for friendship.

[Ben Dover 300]

Fairy tale from a good fairy. You weren't even in the room when any agreement was made with sup and TKO because for some reason sup2 was not invited into that room, which I still have and you're still not part of. But this was a good fairy tale. I actually read about 15 sentences. But I saw the lies. You're a funny guy. Now maybe you should do some work or get some kind of life outside mw.


TKO and SUP
After battle of India and Ferr forced departure Ben Dover on behalf of the TKO approached SUP leadership and beg us to cooperate with his faction. In return of not matching them by top 2 SUP teams during the upcoming battles he promised that TKO will settle for third place and will put cap on WD points. Probably still euphoric after defeat of Ferr and despite our better judgement we are including myself agreed to this arrangement. We have relatively pleasant conversations and introductions created separate chat rooms for coordination and during next battle it was more or less in the boundaries of the cooperation. But as soon as battle of France was over problems start to arise. It's started with insistence of 2 TKO leaders Ben Dover and RIPPER for SUP teams stop raiding and attacking TKO members. When we try to explain them that raiding and attacking is part of the game that makes it more enjoyable they did not wanna hear any of it. So anytime he got raided Ben would jump to the chatroom and start incense cursing about SUP person he just got raided by. And it was non stop on and on. I never saw somebody so prominent and strong would so angered and upset about the normal course of events. Also despite he and RIPPER were told that SUP1 and SUP2 is a one team with joint leadership they demonstratively tried to have separate negotiations and arrangements with SUP1 leaders and IMO intentionally so to drive a wedge between us. When 2 of them saw that SUP2 will not follow any agreement that we did not participate to negotiate MW type blackmailing started. Ben told us because we are raiding him and his penguins they will jack up prices again by running cost up. And when we tried to explain him that raids does not cost him any gold he just left chat. The bottom line is that TKO wanted all the benefits to be the SUP team but without making official.
Also Ben Dover and RIPPER constantly were pushing for SUP 1 or 2 bust gsf streaks and claimed they have a mole in gsf who will declare in the right time. As last battle indicated they had or still have mole in gsf who declared to match TKO and gsf in the last hours of the war and enable TKO score high points. Leadership of SUP2 firmly and openly indicated to TKO masters that it will not be in SUP2 interest matching gsf for various reasons it cause Ben Dover go to his usual rants, wild accusations and cursing. After he realized that SUP2 will not play alone Ben Dover start to back channel to gsf in order for them ambush SUP2 and break our streaks.
Now regarding the plan it never was a plan on spending cuts presented to leadership of SUP2 and I am pretty sure no plan was presented to SUP1 leaders.
But Ben Dover can lie and clain but facts are stubborn thing to ignore. From this excerpts we can see with each consecutive battle TKO outscored their closest rivals by increasing margin without any possible reason while claiming they are ok with 3rd place:
Battle of France over 11 million;
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 37024362
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 32870629
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS LEGENDS 26670330
4 DOGS of WAR 15273128
Mexico 11 million:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 36142343
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 34178927
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 32511798
4 TheGunners 21572480
Italy 16 million:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 48240938
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 45301262
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 38685450
4 Global Strike Force 22407184
Netherlands 33 million points:
1 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 1 61871438
2 SUPER UNITED PIRATES 2 60828649
3 TEMPLAR KNIGHTS ORDER 58278492
4 Celestial Army Generals 25930158
Anybody who can read and understand these numbers cans see that SUP1 and SUP2 did not ran scores up but just maintain enough gap to maintain our first and second positions. Only TKO was able to push us score higher and drive cost for us and most importunately also spending of their players.
But final nail to the coffin of the cooperation between SUP and TKO happen as follows. When SUP leaders got fed up by TKO's broken promises of score capping we asked if they are ready to commit to the caps in next battle. RIPPER for almost days of silence came to chat and demanded that SUP2 will give up it's second place to TKO and next time SUP1 will gave up their first place to TKO too, i.e. we will rotate 1-2-3 places. When we inquired why SUP teams will agree to that his exact words were "because TKO deserved". We have responded that SUP2 never demanded Ferr give up his second place but beat them fair and squire and RIPPER jumped back to so typical tactic that TKO used over all this period - extortion. He posted wild claimed about his huge gold reserves and that he alone will score 20 million with Ben Dover 15 million and total TKO will go for 120 million. This is was pretty much end of this ill conceived deal.
In the end couple words to the current and future TKO members. I know you are excited and pumped about your perceived successes in the last battle. But if you look what did you achieve you will see that you got hosed. Ypou made only thru 9/9 streaks. You match SUP teams 4 times you lost 2 times to SUP1 even without putting up fight you wan 1 over SUP2 and you lost one to SUP2. You overspent 38 million points chasing second place and this is somewhere between $40-45 k spent on gold at 20% sale that your leaders made you take from your families and flash in the toilet.
People who kicked Ferr out for the same kind of leadership and strategies now leading you, but they do not have class and manners that Ferr at least had. They will promise you that nexr battle will be epic and one more push and you will get this White Whale. Well mark my words it will not happen you will be outsmarted, overpowered and if needed overspent as always happened before. So you have a choice blindly follow personal ambitions and egos of RIPPER or lunacy of Ben Dover who lies every time his lips move or every time his fingers reach keyboard. Or you can join SUP teaqm of your choice like dozens former Ferr players did and get rewards worth of your spending and leadership that put team ahead of themselves.
Lastly my couple words for mole that RIPPER planted to gsf. Shame on you. I will not trash you like Ben Dover has done on this forum or tell you here who you are. But I know exactly who it is. You betrayed your teammates and your old friends who always gave you support and comfort when you needed. Mark my words when Ben Dovers and RIPPERS of the world will be done with you they will dispose you like used condom, but this time you will not have anybody to come for friendship.

[Genen]

Fairy tale from a good fairy. You weren't even in the room when any agreement was made with sup and TKO because for some reason sup2 was not invited into that room, which I still have and you're still not part of. But this was a good fairy tale. I actually read about 15 sentences. But I saw the lies. You're a funny guy. Now maybe you should do some work or get some kind of life outside mw.
Talk cheap and you just confirmed exactly what I said. You have tried to make a separate deals with SUP1 did not work for you Ben. Numbers do not lie Ben. And what was your plan share with us. SUP1 leaders told me it was not any plan I did not see any plan. You ran scores, so Ben besides your accusations put up or shut up.

[Judas Goat]

Looks like Corey is in trouble. Ruuuuuuun Corey ruuuuuuuun! LoL

Yeah, I think I might know of that guy.

I guess he could be HOSED, huh?

[Genen]

Yeah, I think I might know of that guy.

I guess he could be HOSED, huh?
At this point it does not matter. It's on him.

[Ben Dover 300]

I didn't create the room for sup1 and TKO. Sup created the room and invited people they wanted. I guess they didn't want you there. You really aren't smart. And sup didn't drive up spending? If you stop spending TKO would stop spending. You're guilty of driving up costs. Well probably not you because you probably made the team minimum and made everyone else score the points. How did you do on streaks this time big mouth? You lost to TKO and gsf back to back. Did it feel like you got bent over? You can have your version of this game (I mean your life) I know the truth and truth is I'm not looking to waste my time discussing anything with a delusional person like you. Maybe since English is your second language you don't understand a lot of things, maybe you are confused. Good luck to you I hope you don't hurt yourself.

[Genen]

I didn't create the room for sup1 and TKO. Sup created the room and invited people they wanted. I guess they didn't want you there. You really aren't smart. And sup didn't drive up spending? If you stop spending TKO would stop spending. You're guilty of driving up costs. Well probably not you because you probably made the team minimum and made everyone else score the points. How did you do on streaks this time big mouth? You lost to TKO and gsf back to back. Did it feel like you got bent over? You can have your version of this game (I mean your life) I know the truth and truth is I'm not looking to waste my time discussing anything with a delusional person like you. Maybe since English is your second language you don't understand a lot of things, maybe you are confused. Good luck to you I hope you don't hurt yourself.
And I do not have any desire discussing with you either. So stop posting PMs to me on groupme and whine about your tough plaid and posting on my wall love letters.

[camper killer]

Can't we all just get along?

I mean seriously. I have been in both PUN and SUP1, Spent come FVFs in SUP2 and other events as well. Now i just roll with the freebies and cheapies as I the funds just do no run anymore.

Why does this have to be a pissing match?

Ben, is there some way we can just set this all aside and figure out what the heck we can do as a team for once?

We used to fight Gree(d), now we just fight each other.

[Judas Goat]

What about the scanning?

Why is okay to scan player accounts?

Ben was victimized and nothing was done?

Why do others have to give in all the time?

[Ben Dover 300]

That's what S and I tried to do. Yes that could have been done. But fairy didn't want that now he wants to twist the facts and lie about it all. I don't see any joy in whoville this Christmas. I see lots of smiling faces in Gree land. Because of how high the points will be in Cuba.

But maybe not fairy says sup won't cause spending to be out of control so I imagine that means they are stopping at 30 mil and won't go to 90 million. I guess we'll see who will be driving up the spending.


Can't we all just get along?

I mean seriously. I have been in both PUN and SUP1, Spent come FVFs in SUP2 and other events as well. Now i just roll with the freebies and cheapies as I the funds just do no run anymore.

Why does this have to be a pissing match?

Ben, is there some way we can just set this all aside and figure out what the heck we can do as a team for once?

We used to fight Gree(d), now we just fight each other.

[camper killer]

I won't argue any of your points. there is no sense in it becuase we all see things differently.


But seriously, what can we do to mend this. I am long retired from SUP1. I have no vested interest in this fight anymore and have not since before France.

But what I do have interest in is a unified front against this stat inflation and cost driving.

Stephen can vouch I am upfront and honest, as can almost every single VFF member. I know I have commented and been rude in the past, but it was nothing more than grandstanding and usual banter.

I truely think we need to stand strong on some issues. Yes that will piss off some SUP members but I think we have a greater need here.

[honest Abe]

To be frank, running up the score accomplishes nothing except helping gree with their quarterly net income. In all seriousness, is anyone on TKO happy about scoring 35mm over fourth? That's roughly 600k points per head. There has to be a better way of doing this.

[DTA-HOG]

Well it's pretty obvious to me that you guys are going to first have to agree to TKO being in 3rd. After that, y'all can drastically cut your costs. But I don't see them settling for 3rd so it's all irrelevant.

[mreilly]

To be frank, running up the score accomplishes nothing except helping gree with their quarterly net income. In all seriousness, is anyone on TKO happy about scoring 35mm over fourth? That's roughly 600k points per head. There has to be a better way of doing this.

But that was TKO's strategy was it not? Finish 3rd at any cost...

[Judas Goat]

How does the 3rd place finisher determine anything?
Its the 1st place finisher that drives the costs.
But, the costs of 1st, 2nd, or 3rd don't impact anyone but those three.
If 1st was 100,000,000, 2nd was 80,000,000, 3rd was 60,000,000; why couldn't 4th have stopped at 5,000,000?
The culprits are the greedy bullies that do anything to stay in 1st.
But, 1, 2, or 3 have no impact on 4th through 4,000.

[mreilly]

When 4th place is no threat and the first and 2nd place teams work together how is 3rd place not the one driving up the costs?

I guess its a matter of opinion there is all.

[Genen]

When 4th place is no threat and the first and 2nd place teams work together how is 3rd place not the one driving up the costs?

I guess its a matter of opinion there is all.
Exactly. If you look to the gap between 1 and 2 it's in the range between 1 and 5 million over span of several battles. There are 2 issues here. 1. TKO was running for second which they have every right to do, but at least not lie about it and claim they offered some mythical plan that nobody saw. 2. They have done nothing to cap cost by capping points. They just tried to stay close enough to second place to sneak in the last hours of the battle. Well they failed, but known who their leaders are I am sure they will try to do it again and fail again. 3. This is not novel and it's call "Ferr doctrine". At least guy was honest about it.

[Congressman Robinson]

I have no idea what any of you guys are talking about, and I really don't care, but here is an idea.... Just for this one event, why don't all the guys from the various SUPs, PUNs, Ferr's, TKOs, etc. take at least 1/2 the money they usually give to Gree and go drop it in a red kettle somewhere? Just this month do a little something to help out someone who needs it and stop enriching the people who can't even get updates right on this game....

[Speed ump]

Of course third place drives the scores. Anyone thinks different has been smoking their own line of you know what. I guess you might say that first is driving costs if your idea is the usual first lets third place take first and therefore keeps costs lower after that. I've never heard of any other form of competition that uses that form of rationalization, but..... By the way, who's on first.

[Elite Enforcer]

Yes 3rd control costs here. But after this performance, looks to me that 3rd can go to second very easy. Grees making money this holiday season.

[GenesDad]

Just a quick one, wanna thank all you guys who spend money on this game. Please keep spending as without you guys we free players get to keep tapping now and then without spending a dime. Level 150+ 14 mill attack without spending a dime isn't so bad :) love them big boys who spend money and at the end of the event the guys are scratching theirs heads thinking was it worth it. TKO, Sup whatever you wanna call yourself we don't care as long as you baby bill gates are spending we are happy. Just stfu and buy gold that's all we want from you guys :)

Have a bless day ;)

[Allday]

If you have spent nothing and are 14 million attack then you are a hacker.

[Allday]

Or you have been in a top faction and others have carried your dead weight for months.

[Allday]

Either way, you are what makes this game bad. Thief is a very smart player, he has those stats, he spent money

BTW - I always find the new accounts to the Forum that stir stuff up. Why not post
under you normal forum name? Why hide?

[lemonhaze]

If you have spent nothing and are 14 million attack then you are a hacker. was thinking same thing..ive spent a good amt of gold and im only 8.2/9.2 no where close to his free 14m stats.

[GenesDad]

Either way, you are what makes this game bad. Thief is a very smart player, he has those stats, he spent money

BTW - I always find the new accounts to the Forum that stir stuff up. Why not post
under you normal forum name? Why hide?

Seems like we have Sherlock Holmes dad here, please don't give up your day job. Regardless how a free players gets millions in stats that's for them to enjoy and not for Gree to find out if they are genuine or not. Knowledge is power remember that son! Now be a good little boy a buy a vault of gold so you can fund our free play :)

Hacker or no Hacker I enjoy my game like most of my online free gamers, if a events goes tits up we still win.

[Elite Enforcer]

I've spent Dow too and just over 2 mill. Lol. His stats are most likely 200k tops.

[Ben Dover 300]

I already ran a toy for tots, donated to feeding America (I do that Thanksgiving and Christmas every year), and I grant a wish to a child from my community every year thru the make a wish program. Which will be done next week.

Mreilly I thought I explained how the points were scored for TKO. I'm sure there are many factions that can say we scored less then 150k points against them. We had 25 million points just in battles with gsf, sup1 and sup2. If those teams worked together to not match then the points would not be run up, right? We tried that, sup2 did not like it. 25 million in 8 battles 50+ more to go plus 1500 wins per person, makes The points add up. It takes more then 1 team to run up points. Problem is now that 1st to 3rd was so close people can taste victory and now TKO may actually try at least for second.


I have no idea what any of you guys are talking about, and I really don't care, but here is an idea.... Just for this one event, why don't all the guys from the various SUPs, PUNs, Ferr's, TKOs, etc. take at least 1/2 the money they usually give to Gree and go drop it in a red kettle somewhere? Just this month do a little something to help out someone who needs it and stop enriching the people who can't even get updates right on this game....

[Ryans67]

Wouldn't you get your 1,500 wins in the 4 major battles?

[DFI]

14 mm for free? That wld be one heck of a feat. Even if you were a long time player, stats only started to inflate recently, and gree made sure you had to spend to get them. Like others have said, unless you free loaded in a top faction, very difficult to believe, but there are benevolent leaders out there, so I guess it's not entirely impossible.

[Genen]

Wouldn't you get your 1,500 wins in the 4 major battles?
he even lies about 25 million. They laid down when matched with sup1 twice. may be scored 1 or 1.5 million. Matched gsf 3 times let say score max 3.5 million each time 10.5 total and twice sup2.. So even with all this assumptions the scored less than 20 mill. And you are exactly right ole liar double counting 1500 wins.

[Judas Goat]

Mr. gene was teaching us MW history.
Mr. Ben was telling us the truth about the back room deals.
If Mr. Gene would teach us more history I would liek that.
Then Mr. Ben could tell us the true story, not the fairy tales.
Those guys are good teachers.

[honest Abe]

Given how great the prize for second is, I would expect so.


I already ran a toy for tots, donated to feeding America (I do that Thanksgiving and Christmas every year), and I grant a wish to a child from my community every year thru the make a wish program. Which will be done next week.

Mreilly I thought I explained how the points were scored for TKO. I'm sure there are many factions that can say we scored less then 150k points against them. We had 25 million points just in battles with gsf, sup1 and sup2. If those teams worked together to not match then the points would not be run up, right? We tried that, sup2 did not like it. 25 million in 8 battles 50+ more to go plus 1500 wins per person, makes The points add up. It takes more then 1 team to run up points. Problem is now that 1st to 3rd was so close people can taste victory and now TKO may actually try at least for second.

[Judas Goat]

he even lies about 25 million. They laid down when matched with sup1 twice. may be scored 1 or 1.5 million. Matched gsf 3 times let say score max 3.5 million each time 10.5 total and twice sup2.. So even with all this assumptions the scored less than 20 mill. And you are exactly right ole liar double counting 1500 wins.

Mr. gene sir, you are telling knowledge of MW.
Can you answer this sir?
If team 1, 2, and 3 scored 400,000,000 to 300,000,000, how does that impoact team 4 or team 4,000?
I don't see it make a difference to them.
They say it does. How sir?

Mr. Ben if you could answer too sir I could learn more stuff. thank you gentlemens.

[Genen]

Mr. gene was teaching us MW history.
Mr. Ben was telling us the truth about the back room deals.
If Mr. Gene would teach us more history I would liek that.
Then Mr. Ben could tell us the true story, not the fairy tales.
Those guys are good teachers.
Haha C. old pal old buddy. The point is he did not tell you truth about back room deals. He habitually lied.

[Judas Goat]

Haha C. old pal old buddy. The point is he did not tell you truth about back room deals. He habitually lied.

maybe you can teach us better? You have great knowledge sir.

[Genen]

Mr. gene sir, you are telling knowledge of MW.
Can you answer this sir?
If team 1, 2, and 3 scored 400,000,000 to 300,000,000, how does that impoact team 4 or team 4,000?
I don't see it make a difference to them.
They say it does. How sir?

Mr. Ben if you could answer too sir I could learn more stuff. thank you gentlemen.
it will have 0 effect on teams 4 to 4000. But if team 3 coming to get second place of course it will effect 1 and 2. No argument from me

[Judas Goat]

it will have 0 effect on teams 4 to 4000. But if team 3 coming to get second place of course it will effect 1 and 2. No argument from me

see, Mr Gene, I thought so too, So, why are teams 4-4,000 so upset?

Team 1 is the bad guy, They keep a buffer between them and you team 2.

Team 1 doesn't trust you their real pals.
Seems they are the heels, and you team 2, and them team 3 are heroes for the people.

[Genen]

see, Mr Gene, I thought so too, So, why are teams 4-4,000 so upset?

Team 1 is the bad guy, They keep a buffer between them and you team 2.

Team 1 doesn't trust you their real pals.
Seems they are the heels, and you team 2, and them team 3 are heroes for the people.
Well they should not be upset or even care I guess. I was just responding to the lies that Ben DOver was posting on this forum day in and day out.
Now about team 1 been a bad guys. Well nice try but not really. With matching in the last hours of the battle it possible that team 3 can overtake both team 1 and team 2. And penguins demonstrated it with their mole in gsf declaring for them to match and score high.
BTW whatever they done in Netherlands I do not have a problem. But BD shall stop lying about it.

[GenesDad]

Can you FREAKS just STFU! Annoying little low life's, this is a game and nothing more. You know the world is a big place, get the F off your sofa and stroll out. Saggy old fat men going on at each other like its WWIII.

[Judas Goat]

Well they should not be upset or even care I guess. I was just responding to the lies that Ben DOver was posting on this forum day in and day out.
Now about team 1 been a bad guys. Well nice try but not really. With matching in the last hours of the battle it possible that team 3 can overtake both team 1 and team 2. And penguins demonstrated it with their mole in gsf declaring for them to match and score high.
BTW whatever they done in Netherlands I do not have a problem. But BD shall stop lying about it.

Mr. gene, you seem like a nice guy.
Maybe you and Mr. Ben can make up and be pals?
Camper killer said we should all be pals again.
Why can't we all just be pals?
This is hurting everyone.
Camper Killer is on to something, so I apologize too
Let's just stop fighting Mr. Gene..Okay sir?
We all used to get along so nicely.
At least we can all be civil, well yall can be civil Mr. gene.

[Judas Goat]

Can you FREAKS just STFU! Annoying little low life's, this is a game and nothing more. You know the world is a big place, get the F off your sofa and stroll out. Saggy old fat men going on at each other like its WWIII.

Mr. genesdad, why you so angry sir?

Life ain't that bad is it sir?

[JMS]

Actually, this has been a good read. The top three prizes have been garbage for a while now with this 2 and 3 totally useless. If someone could explain why tko burned so much gold for basically nothing (except to have sup spend slightly more) I would appreciate it. I'd get it if the prizes were great but the real prizes are in the streaks, and further this time the top 750 is better than second place! Really seems this is all about ego rather than common sense. Tko do you really care about second or third this war (20 extra units??) and if not why not save some money until such a time where it makes sense.

[Genen]

Actually, this has been a good read. The top three prizes have been garbage for a while now with this 2 and 3 totally useless. If someone could explain why tko burned so much gold for basically nothing (except to have sup spend slightly more) I would appreciate it. I'd get it if the prizes were great but the real prizes are in the streaks, and further this time the top 750 is better than second place! Really seems this is all about ego rather than common sense. Tko do you really care about second or third this war (20 extra units??) and if not why not save some money until such a time where it makes sense.
Another good post. I can explain for them. They tried to get second place but fell short. Apparently to make his members feel better Ben Dover comes here and makes up stories that a person with basic high school math skills and general knowledge of competitions will see as a complete bs. But this is Ben. Who BTW made grandiose announcement that he is retiring from MW. I have my doubts that he will, but we will see soon lol

[honest Abe]

I for one would miss the gene v Ben matches, they are quite entertaining. Better than Ali v Forman. And I also agree on jms' point. TKO, how about reevaluating giving gree a Christmas present this war and all of us have a talk offline. I'd love to see 20-25mm scores for 1-3 this war. Ill use the extra money to eat a nice meal at per se.



Another good post. I can explain for them. They tried to get second place but fell short. Apparently to make his members feel better Ben Dover comes here and makes up stories that a person with basic high school math skills and general knowledge of competitions will see as a complete bs. But this is Ben. Who BTW made grandiose announcement that he is retiring from MW. I have my doubts that he will, but we will see soon lol

[Judas Goat]

Another good post. I can explain for them. They tried to get second place but fell short. Apparently to make his members feel better Ben Dover comes here and makes up stories that a person with basic high school math skills and general knowledge of competitions will see as a complete bs. But this is Ben. Who BTW made grandiose announcement that he is retiring from MW. I have my doubts that he will, but we will see soon lol

Mr Gene sir, now are we going to try and be pals?
Come one, we can do it...

We ain't gotta like kiss and feel each other up and stuff, but we could cyber hand shake.

[DTA-HOG]

Ain't gonna happen. This will be the most expensive war yet. It will keep getting that way til all your wives find out. And when they do, you would probably be better off with having bought porn.

[Genen]

Ain't gonna happen. This will be the most expensive war yet. It will keep getting that way til all your wives find out. And when they do, you would probably be better off with having bought porn.
Haha. Real funny man.

[Judas Goat]

My dad used to tell me that not to look at the porn because it make your eyes burn and you can't see good no more.

[Ben Dover 300]

If you are online yes


Wouldn't you get your 1,500 wins in the 4 major battles?

[Ben Dover 300]

Do you know how you can tell when gene is lying? He's opening his mouth. Notice I'm still not replying to anything he says. His opinions (lies) don't matter. He's so delusional that he actually believes his own lies.

[Ben Dover 300]

Nope don't care anything about the units. Only care about beating Gene. Everyone has had the player on their team that talks and talks about winning and scoring and, let's go get them. Or if you're losing they are screaming we're losing, tap away. This person is always online but at the end they don't score. You know the type, right? For sup2 that's gene. The goal in Cuba is it match sup2 as much as we can.


Mr. genesdad, why you so angry sir?

Life ain't that bad is it sir?

[Little Killer]

Do you know how you can tell when gene is lying? He's opening his mouth. Notice I'm still not replying to anything he says. His opinions (lies) don't matter. He's so delusional that he actually believes his own lies.
I've been following this thread from the beginning with some interest, and if I can I would like to say my opinion on the facts of the last war. He starts by saying that I am part of Sup, indeed I am the son of an old pirate who left the game before the Great War. Now some might think that my testimony is biased, but it is not so. What Gene said, the truth is, during the first battle with TKO, many of us, myself included, were sleeping because of the time zone, up to now nothing to say, the battles are won and lost, then honor to TKO who won. But the next morning, when I woke up, and I noticed my boost thrown down by an affiliate TKO, that is, an honorable way to win a battle. One other thing that belies TKO is the last battle, if we had not marked nearly 4 mil wd points, as would be over the chart? No, they were not pushing for second place! The numbers that gene showed, say much more than unnecessary words. So Mr. Ben Dover, no respect for you and your lies.

[Elite Enforcer]

Maybe I'm alittle slow but why so mad that a 3rd place team wants to finish 2nd or 1st. Isn't that the game plan of every faction is to do the best they can. Isn't one part of the deal that I read somewhere here where teams 1 and 2 are not to raid team 3 etc but they did. Yes raiding is part of this game and so is wanting to finish second etc. One problem here, why make deals boys. Just play the game and do your best and most important watch your spending. All your receiving is units and a bonus from gree. Just my non-bias feedback.

[Genen]

Maybe I'm alittle slow but why so mad that a 3rd place team wants to finish 2nd or 1st. Isn't that the game plan of every faction is to do the best they can. Isn't one part of the deal that I read somewhere here where teams 1 and 2 are not to raid team 3 etc but they did. Yes raiding is part of this game and so is wanting to finish second etc. One problem here, why make deals boys. Just play the game and do your best and most important watch your spending. All your receiving is units and a bonus from gree. Just my non-bias feedback.
I agree with you 100% no deals with birds. And nobody mad to them for wanting to be 2 or 1. But at least they have to stop lie and whine

[Speed ump]

Elite, it's a clash of personalities. The game is also competitive in nature and can turn people to take things personally. I think some of it is that tko has said that sup is the one driving the costs, which is obviously not the case based on the number shown. Of course they want to do better, and it has become personal for them, not based on logic. If we all played based on logic, gree would be broke.lol. Looks like we are back to the days of ferr again. Pride driving the actions. It is what it is. For the ones complaining about all this back and forth, these people are passionate about their game. No one is asking you to be, of you chose not to, and apparently there's no real reason for you to even be here. I prefer to let people enjoy whatever it is they chose to enjoy. I will never understand why some people seem to want to control what others wish to spend their time and money on.

[Elite Enforcer]

Elite, it's a clash of personalities. The game is also competitive in nature and can turn people to take things personally. I think some of it is that tko has said that sup is the one driving the costs, which is obviously not the case based on the number shown. Of course they want to do better, and it has become personal for them, not based on logic. If we all played based on logic, gree would be broke.lol. Looks like we are back to the days of ferr again. Pride driving the actions. It is what it is. For the ones complaining about all this back and forth, these people are passionate about their game. No one is asking you to be, of you chose not to, and apparently there's no real reason for you to even be here. I prefer to let people enjoy whatever it is they chose to enjoy. I will never understand why some people seem to want to control what others wish to spend their time and money on.

I can see that there very passionate. Good for them. I'm not hating on them, I'm just pointing out some stuff that they are not understanding as it's going to cost them a lot of Dow. Why am I talking when it doesn't even affect me, well your right I'm not affected in anyway by this. But this is a open forum and I'm just providing my feedback. If they choose to listen and say that this guy might make alittle sense then thats cool. I'm not a troll, just trying to help some of my fellow gamers out.

[Ben Dover 300]

I would say I need a translation on this because I have no idea what you are talking about, but it don't really care what you are talking about. If you are in sup2 all you do is take people's boosts down. During wd you leave speed dials to players from all other factions and they pay you back. Has nothing to do with TKO. It has to do with you all being dummies.


I've been following this thread from the beginning with some interest, and if I can I would like to say my opinion on the facts of the last war. He starts by saying that I am part of Sup, indeed I am the son of an old pirate who left the game before the Great War. Now some might think that my testimony is biased, but it is not so. What Gene said, the truth is, during the first battle with TKO, many of us, myself included, were sleeping because of the time zone, up to now nothing to say, the battles are won and lost, then honor to TKO who won. But the next morning, when I woke up, and I noticed my boost thrown down by an affiliate TKO, that is, an honorable way to win a battle. One other thing that belies TKO is the last battle, if we had not marked nearly 4 mil wd points, as would be over the chart? No, they were not pushing for second place! The numbers that gene showed, say much more than unnecessary words. So Mr. Ben Dover, no respect for you and your lies.

[Ben Dover 300]

This started with your fairy gene. He made a big deal about it he says that TKO is driving up spending. He's too dumb to honor the deal we (you and I) tried to put into place because he doesn't like penguins. Even now he says birds and penguins, that's just dumb. How is a knight a penguin or a bird? It takes more then 1 team to drive up spending.


Elite, it's a clash of personalities. The game is also competitive in nature and can turn people to take things personally. I think some of it is that tko has said that sup is the one driving the costs, which is obviously not the case based on the number shown. Of course they want to do better, and it has become personal for them, not based on logic. If we all played based on logic, gree would be broke.lol. Looks like we are back to the days of ferr again. Pride driving the actions. It is what it is. For the ones complaining about all this back and forth, these people are passionate about their game. No one is asking you to be, of you chose not to, and apparently there's no real reason for you to even be here. I prefer to let people enjoy whatever it is they chose to enjoy. I will never understand why some people seem to want to control what others wish to spend their time and money on.

[Emerald_]

Well said, Speed Ump. But using that same logic, we have to let trolls troll for whatever reason they do and not worry about the why.

[Genen]

This started with your fairy gene. He made a big deal about it he says that TKO is driving up spending. He's too dumb to honor the deal we (you and I) tried to put into place because he doesn't like penguins. Even now he says birds and penguins, that's just dumb. How is a knight a penguin or a bird? It takes more then 1 team to drive up spending.
Do you want Stalingrad? You and your penguins will get Stalingrad. This is my last words for you Ben - иду на вы

[Judas Goat]

This is for entertainment. Have fun, but don't take it serious. We all just people and we make mistakes. Sometimes we need to stop and take deep breath and think. Now is that time. Stop fighting people you don't even know, even a dumb teenager like me knows that.

Anyway, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Winter Solstice Day (Dec 21st), Merry Christmas everyone, Happy Boxing Day, Happy Saint Johns Day, Happy New Year, Happy Epiphany Day, and Mawlid Un Nabi.

Can't we all just try to be friendly for a couple weeks?

We might end up liking it, and no reason to fight.

Just try have some fun again, okay.
I respect all the leaders and teachers of this game, Ferr, Ripper, Ben Dover (honest guy), Camper Kill, Dingleberry, Arachlord, Speed Ump, CCV, CBB, Mr. Gene (he's smart man, too), Agent orange, JMC, Ranger, McDoc, Flash, Naked Cherry Pie, Pirate Enforce, Joker, Carnage, TKO team, SUP Empire, GSF, REG, VFF, KYS, Seal Team6, so many, many great team and leaders.

Maybe you show us example of how to be nice, not firnds maybe, just treat people with respect again.

Mr. Camper killer is right.

I apologize to him, and everyone I have offended, and promise to stop being mean and accusing people of stuff.

Even if i know something, I'll sut up and report in proper way and let Gree address or fix it.

its not my place to tell anyone anything.

I am sorry, pleas accept my apology.

I will shut up for a very long time now.

[Speed ump]

Hey elete, I was not refering to you as a troll, I agree you're voicing honest and legitimate opinions. Ben I think all the points all of us put up have always been about pride. While some here try to demean that, I see nothing wrong with it. We are obviously all competitive people, and this game could not make money if we wernt. Not just the top three, and the top ten still spend a lot of money when it's all added together. Even the ones who play free have to put a lot of time into it, and that time is worth something too. I never ever expected any of this when I began this game, and if you fast forwarded it to show me, probably would have never started playing the game. Yet here we are. I don't and won't take any of it personally, even with the ones over time that have tried to make it personal. I understand animosity over perceived actions and words, but realize that most here are good people

[Emerald_]

Comparing an increase in your discretionary spending to the countless lives lost at Stalingrad is quite distasteful. Maybe you all should attempt more of the Christmas Truce, where men in actual battle with much more to lose overcame their differences. - http://www.history.com/topics/christmas-truce-of-1914

[Judas Goat]

Comparing an increase in your discretionary spending to the countless lives lost at Stalingrad is quite distasteful. Maybe you all should attempt more of the Christmas Truce, where men in actual battle with much more to lose overcame their differences. - http://www.history.com/topics/christmas-truce-of-1914

Thank you, I agree and applaud peace, truce - especially during this solemn and joyous time of year.

[ugaguard]

Great job TKO

[Judas Goat]

The tail can, and does wag the dog.

[Speed ump]

What goes up must come down, of course unless it was always up, and never down.

[Speed ump]

The grass is always greener on the other side, of course it rarely ever is

[Sgt. Fancypants]

I swear I only lied one or two times.....

and she was 18......

this may be the greatest 2 sentences on this forum

[Sgt. Fancypants]

Can't we all just get along?

I mean seriously. I have been in both PUN and SUP1, Spent come FVFs in SUP2 and other events as well. Now i just roll with the freebies and cheapies as I the funds just do no run anymore.

Why does this have to be a pissing match?

Ben, is there some way we can just set this all aside and figure out what the heck we can do as a team for once?.

Why not just merge and change the name again? In terms of points TKO is as deserving as Superfaction was (based on the limited understanding I have from this short history). It's been changed from PUN and Superfaction to SUP before in a beneficial agreement, why not again? It certainly would be nice to have a happy ending to the story that's been written here.

Perhaps this time it can be changed to an open ended name? One unrelated to any of the former factions contained within, thereby sidestepping any of the inherent human 'king of the hill' instincts. Perhaps one that instead signifies character of the members and the purpose for which it was created.



We used to fight Gree(d), now we just fight each other.

[Shinedown Gree]

Don't feed the trolls genen,

[David Steelman]

Don't feed the trolls genen,

LoL Where did u find this thread??? At page 134???

[Shinedown Gree]

LoL Where did u find this thread??? At page 134???


Quite an interesting read. It gives the reader an introduction to sups dark Side. But alas, never necro old threads again please

[Tadaaah]

Let's not necro really old threads. Thanks.