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SEC
11-29-2013, 11:27 AM
Putting aside the fact that there are no arrows on the saboteur leader which makes it that much harder to find targets. Also putting aside that fact that there is no guarantee you will receive a wrecked marauder every time you kill a saboteur leader. Let's hypothetically assume there is a 100% drop rate for the 200 loot required to complete the faction quests.

15x158 = 2,370 energy and 200 kills would require 474,000 energy. But since it is doubtful there would be 100% drop rate we can assume it will be well over 500,000 energy at a minimum. I understand that Gree expects us to spend gold to complete all events but I can't even imagine how much would need to be spent by factions with less than 60 people who do not have many members with fast energy regen around 10 or higher per minute. Since there haven't been any energy regen units that I know of for a while many people have 5 or less per minute and some in my faction only get 3 per minute. A nice gesture by Gree would have been to at least include a faster energy unit for finishing level 9.

I think 100 kills would still have required a lot of gold and have been very difficult to finish but 200 is just insane. To top it off the unit is only raw stats and does not include a bonus. Let's not forget the day 1 boss event this time required 300 kills instead of 250 like in the past. Gree please stop making all these events nearly impossible to do for all but the top factions. I am not saying make them so easy everyone can complete but be more reasonable.

droffatsto50
11-29-2013, 11:28 AM
It's always been 300 bosses for day 1 on the boss events I'm sure.

pb23
11-29-2013, 11:32 AM
Um there are instructions to follow and only 1 Saboteur unit per map... plus there are only 4 or 5 TOTAL mobile targets on the final map.

Thief
11-29-2013, 11:32 AM
Your talking about a Faction Goal.....All you need is 25 people completing the individual

Or combination of individual and just helping with the faction event.

I agree the drop rate is absurd....but that's another story.

SEC
11-29-2013, 11:32 AM
It's always been 300 bosses for day 1 on the boss events I'm sure.

You might be right. For some reason I thought day 4 required 400 and it goes up by 50 every day so I thought day 1 used to be 250. Day 4 was the one we struggled with the last 2 events and I was almost certain it was 400. So day 4 is 450?

Squinto
11-29-2013, 11:33 AM
Geez they include a 24 hour event for awesome units and even give a 40% off gold sale and still people whine and complain. If you don't think you can finish the event then just don't do it.

pb23
11-29-2013, 11:34 AM
Secondly, we will finish the FLTQ with no issue at all... The requirements aren't an issue, but the sporadic drop rate should be something that's addressed.

I finished individual with 97% drop rate of loot. I have faction mates that finished with 40%. One of our guys finished stage 10 with 25 boss kills.

SEC
11-29-2013, 11:37 AM
Secondly, we will finish the FLTQ with no issue at all... The requirements aren't an issue, but the sporadic drop rate should be something that's addressed.

I finished individual with 97% drop rate of loot. I have faction mates that finished with 40%. One of our guys finished stage 10 with 25 boss kills.

Same in my faction. It seems the Android guys are getting about 100% drop rate and several on iOS are getting around 40 to 50% drop rate. Why even have the loot as a requirement since 200 kill alone is hard enough without adding that chance part into the mix then giving better odds to one phone platform over the other.

Thief
11-29-2013, 11:38 AM
You might be right. For some reason I thought day 4 required 400 and it goes up by 50 every day so I thought day 1 used to be 250. Day 4 was the one we struggled with the last 2 events and I was almost certain it was 400. So day 4 is 450?

300, 350, 400, 450, 500, 550 and 600 for each of the 7 days. Its been that way for the previous 3 Boss events.

SEC
11-29-2013, 11:45 AM
300, 350, 400, 450, 500, 550 and 600 for each of the 7 days. Its been that way for the previous 3 Boss events.

Thanks, I don't know why I thought it was 400 on day 4. I wish they would do it in reverse with 600 kills on day one and 50 less each day. Once I reach a boss over level 30 it takes a while to kill even one. Without an army of LLP's helping out along with mountains of gold I don't see how any faction could have any hope of finishing even day 5 let alone day 7.

Maverick0073
11-29-2013, 11:52 AM
Total bs..this drop rate . I am level 10 on 4/8 and failed 12 times so far on this level alone. 9 was just as bad. Gree I give up you have screwed me for the last time. I am ios and yes it's not the same drop rate on android they are like 90%

Georgi
11-29-2013, 12:05 PM
The real danger is when you lose Wrecked Mauareder you get when attacked by a rival. AND (wtf!!!!!) you can lose the individual LTQ prize the 70k with it... Nice Round of applause for Major ****Up @GREE...

SPWD
11-29-2013, 12:10 PM
What the fukc?

SEC
11-29-2013, 01:02 PM
Total bs..this drop rate . I am level 10 on 4/8 and failed 12 times so far on this level alone. 9 was just as bad. Gree I give up you have screwed me for the last time. I am ios and yes it's not the same drop rate on android they are like 90%

In the space of 5 minutes we just had 3 players on iOS kill 3 saboteur leaders. All 3 players were on iOS (I am one of them) All 3 kills did not receive a wrecked marauder. Gree is this fair to allow Android a near 100% drop rate and apparently give iOS users around a 50% drop rate?

What?
11-29-2013, 01:11 PM
They can't do anything right. The drop rate is crap. Gree never tests what release. Android has a higher drop rate. Why the hell is there even a drop rate? Beat the target and move on. It is just another way to milk more money out of people.

Big she'd
11-29-2013, 01:54 PM
Geez they include a 24 hour event for awesome units and even give a 40% off gold sale and still people whine and complain. If you don't think you can finish the event then just don't do it.

Agreed , beside the massive lag this isn't one of their worse events , not by a long shot

Blodiea
11-29-2013, 03:29 PM
I'm on android and it is more like 70% drop rate. Much better then the 3% drop rate of care packages and the impossibility of going past 8 opened.

SEC
11-29-2013, 03:32 PM
I'm on android and it is more like 70% drop rate. Much better then the 3% drop rate of care packages and the impossibility of going past 8 opened.

I am on iOS and opened those damn pumpkin pies a good 80 or more times and only got 6 care packages for my effort. If you got 8 you beat me by 2 so I don't know if you are implying we had better luck because I certainly didn't. I reached level 5 of the care package event and my drop rate wan't that great either.

Jetwit
11-29-2013, 04:32 PM
I have completed level Ten 15 times. I have 7 drops. You have to be kidding me? This is supposed to be "Thanks GIVING" not "Thanks were taking your money with a huge smile on our face!"

This event is full of glitches and is BS. I will be getting in touch with Itunes and requesting my money back.

Wai
11-29-2013, 04:44 PM
The vast majority of ppl will not know they can't achieve it until they get there. That's the bait they use very effectively.

I. as I and I'm sure others have said several times before. It is well overdue for Gree to post the number of hits and energy requirements (IN GAME) for each and every level, immediately before an event commences.

That's called transparency between the company and the consumer. The way it is done now is quite wrong for the consumer and may be considered deceptive by some.

Wai
11-29-2013, 04:46 PM
I am running at 30% on iOS currently so I guess even at best it's going to be between double and triple those energy requirements.

These gambling drop rates should be discontinued.

andrew3wt
11-29-2013, 04:47 PM
iOS is drop rate is just bad on 10/10

I have two accounts one iOS and one Android.

iOS 0 for 4
Android went 8 for 9

Brizzol
11-29-2013, 04:49 PM
No this is bull****, I completed 10 with 100% success, iOS users in faction are lucky to get one drop in three kills you either need to refund iOS users change the goals to kills>drops and refund any gold spent over the required hits otherwise these users will ask apple for a refund.

Blodiea
11-29-2013, 04:58 PM
I am on iOS and opened those damn pumpkin pies a good 80 or more times and only got 6 care packages for my effort. If you got 8 you beat me by 2 so I don't know if you are implying we had better luck because I certainly didn't. I reached level 5 of the care package event and my drop rate wan't that great either.
I am implying that this event has a much better rate of return for your money spent then the whole care package event. I'm also saying that I'm not getting 90% drops.

SEC
11-29-2013, 06:41 PM
I am implying that this event has a much better rate of return for your money spent then the whole care package event. I'm also saying that I'm not getting 90% drops.

Okay I misunderstood you then and agree with that. The care package event really sucked as well. Overall in all the box type events we have also noticed a far higher success rate for Android. One guy has an iPhone and an Android tablet and opens the exact same amount each event. On Android he usually manages to open around 15. On his iPhone and my two iOS devices we tend to get 8 if lucky. Only once have I managed over 10 on iOS. Android and iOS users can all agree that things could be a lot better on both platforms. It is taking me 30 seconds to just vault cash today or attack a rival.

Urbz
11-29-2013, 07:02 PM
We finish it ...me personally had a constant 3:1 drop ration. Every third one was loot.

oakletixfan
11-29-2013, 07:31 PM
Putting aside the fact that there are no arrows on the saboteur leader which makes it that much harder to find targets. Also putting aside that fact that there is no guarantee you will receive a wrecked marauder every time you kill a saboteur leader. Let's hypothetically assume there is a 100% drop rate for the 200 loot required to complete the faction quests.

15x158 = 2,370 energy and 200 kills would require 474,000 energy. But since it is doubtful there would be 100% drop rate we can assume it will be well over 500,000 energy at a minimum. I understand that Gree expects us to spend gold to complete all events but I can't even imagine how much would need to be spent by factions with less than 60 people who do not have many members with fast energy regen around 10 or higher per minute. Since there haven't been any energy regen units that I know of for a while many people have 5 or less per minute and some in my faction only get 3 per minute. A nice gesture by Gree would have been to at least include a faster energy unit for finishing level 9.

I think 100 kills would still have required a lot of gold and have been very difficult to finish but 200 is just insane. To top it off the unit is only raw stats and does not include a bonus. Let's not forget the day 1 boss event this time required 300 kills instead of 250 like in the past. Gree please stop making all these events nearly impossible to do for all but the top factions. I am not saying make them so easy everyone can complete but be more reasonable.


40% off gold.....So they are making us USE 40% more gold to finish. If you do the math there really is no sale

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11-29-2013, 07:43 PM
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