Don't fix Energy glitch please.

[Bastardo79]

Hi gree Please let us glitch energy, allow those who can not spend money to be able to play at least a minimum I ask you please, it is useless to add another show us a bit of humanity.

[Bastardo79]

please those who have money to spend does not put his mouth in this thread

[Person]

Fixing the trick will be the deathblow to the game, just watch.

[It's all a dream]

Fixing the trick will be the deathblow to the game, just watch.

isnt that exactly what Gree has been doing past couple of months. they want this game to die.

[Voxker]

even if they dont fix it, i doubt gemmers wont have the patience to do the trick.

[Shatai]

Be realistic, guys. Gree doesn't want the game to die, because if it did, there goes a source of revenue for them.

They want people to send them money. Lots of money. As much money as possible. So of course they're going to try and set the game up so that people will pay them the most amount of money. It's called a business.

If they kept the raid bosses the same level, then the top guilds would need to hit less often to achieve the same result - meaning they'd need to spend less. So of course the raid bosses are getting harder.

If people can finish the LTQs without spending gems, then they will - which means those people who would have been willing to pay won't. So of course Gree would try to fix that.

All in all, people need to accept that Gree is not in this for the players, Gree is in this to make money.

On one final note - no, I don't spend any money on KA. This game isn't worth it, never has been. I can't even be bothered doing the Tapjoy offers for KA - I save them for another game I play that is actually fun. I'll probably keep playing as long as my current guild stays together, but Gree will never see one red cent out of me (or money of any other colour, for that matter).

[It's all a dream]

o im realistic. truth is Gree has been trying to suck money out of these games. did they make the game more enjoyable. no. all around me i hear ppl saying they are spending less than before. less and less people spend gems on the Raid Boss or any other event. only the war gems are still much used, however even there i hear lots of people not willing to spend more than they actually can.
gree needs to learn first and foremost that gaining revenues means making customers happy and not pissing them off every event. in addition to that money isnt unlimited for most, Gree might want to think about that. they are not the only one who wants money

[Rustica]

So openly posting about a glitch that causes them to lose money on a software companies forum page will accomplish what?

[StrictNine]

Fixing the trick will be the deathblow to the game, just watch.

Well said, it was going down hill anyway but GREE just gave to a big push to get it going.

[Rastlin]

So openly posting about a glitch that causes them to lose money on a software companies forum page will accomplish what?
When since in the game and forum rules it states you can be banned for it in game and also here on the forum.... Should be interesting to see what GREE does when they read this thread. :confused:

[Kafelipeiii]

When since in the game and forum rules it states you can be banned for it in game and also here on the forum.... Should be interesting to see what GREE does when they read this thread. :confused:

My guess is nothing. Isn't that what they usually do? Or if they actually do try to put it back in place they'll probably screw that up to.

[Rastlin]

My guess is nothing. Isn't that what they usually do? Or if they actually do try to put it back in place they'll probably screw that up to.
No they are very good at banning... All of the Honor hackers were banned (anyone remember Winstal?), and lot's of people get banned in the forum for breaking rules (where's Larry?)...

[sst1111]

And now EVERY ASPECT of the game is only for FUN & RK. Death blow indeed.

[Vendetta V]

I remember that I played this game almost all day long, I bought many gems and we had a live chat...
Now I maybe open the game 2 times a day, collect some gold and check what is going on with the guild, I don't buy/spend gems anymore and our in-chat and out game chat is minimal active..

The members of our guikld stay together because we know each other and became friends, but the game is s good as dead for most of us.

We were so active, but all is destroyed because of the stat inflation, it doesn't matter how any gems you buy, you will never come even close by the TOP25 players of the game..

I certianly believe that minimal 60% of the KA players think and are doing the same..
I'm glad that I found another game, which I play many hours a day, the in-game chat is fully active and many strategies are discussed in there...

I should thank GREE for their efforts, thanks to them I'm not a KA addict anymore!
Thanks GREE!!

[JPFAS]

I remember that I played this game almost all day long, I bought many gems and we had a live chat...
Now I maybe open the game 2 times a day, collect some gold and check what is going on with the guild, I don't buy/spend gems anymore and our in-chat and out game chat is minimal active..

The members of our guikld stay together because we know each other and became friends, but the game is s good as dead for most of us.

We were so active, but all is destroyed because of the stat inflation, it doesn't matter how any gems you buy, you will never come even close by the TOP25 players of the game..

I certianly believe that minimal 60% of the KA players think and are doing the same..
I'm glad that I found another game, which I play many hours a day, the in-game chat is fully active and many strategies are discussed in there...

I should thank GREE for their efforts, thanks to them I'm not a KA addict anymore!
Thanks GREE!!

Can you please share what is that new game? We also are searching for a new game where we keep playing as friends, since this one is dead anyway.

[Vendetta V]

Can you please share what is that new game? We also are searching for a new game where we keep playing as friends, since this one is dead anyway.

I pm'd you the info.

Good luck!

[Boxete]

have already eliminated the glitch energy?

[Bastardo79]

Be realistic, guys. Gree doesn't want the game to die, because if it did, there goes a source of revenue for them.

They want people to send them money. Lots of money. As much money as possible. So of course they're going to try and set the game up so that people will pay them the most amount of money. It's called a business.

If they kept the raid bosses the same level, then the top guilds would need to hit less often to achieve the same result - meaning they'd need to spend less. So of course the raid bosses are getting harder.

If people can finish the LTQs without spending gems, then they will - which means those people who would have been willing to pay won't. So of course Gree would try to fix that.

All in all, people need to accept that Gree is not in this for the players, Gree is in this to make money.

On one final note - no, I don't spend any money on KA. This game isn't worth it, never has been. I can't even be bothered doing the Tapjoy offers for KA - I save them for another game I play that is actually fun. I'll probably keep playing as long as my current guild stays together, but Gree will never see one red cent out of me (or money of any other colour, for that matter).

I am a medium gem-spender.. Spending about $600-700 every 2nd or 3rd month. I spend them on Raid bosses and War. –And I spend a whole lot of time on quests and the game in general. I think the majority of GREE’s income comes from people like me, even I have no problem spending, but I have an upper limit!If I have to start spending on all quests, to stay competitive, I will lose the edge in the other already expensive events…. I will have to ask myself the question, Is it worth it? Most of my gem-spending friends in this game have already made a decision to go gem-free, or quit KA completely..My gem-free friends don’t even complete the quests with glitches… it takes too much time and commitment.
I agree and understand your point Shatai, these games are business and money to GREE, but like “It’s all a dream” says, if they want our money, they need to make us, the customers happy as well. The benefit of having a glitch the most dedicated could take advantage of, made it a lot easier to spend more gems elsewhere.I think Person is right.. This fix may be the deathblow to the game, and it is a pity, as I love the game, the community and the friendships.

There are other games out there.. Many, perhaps also I, will feel we are forced to move on..
Please don’t kill the game, GREE..

[Octofinger]

To be honest, asking for a removed glitch to be reinstated is asking a bit too much, but that glitch was the little remains of former KA that I miss so dearly now. This game used to have an ounce of strategy to it, a remote chance of beting competitive if you just invested a lot of time, effort and patience.

All has been removed. All that you can invest now, not only to stay competitive, but just not to be left hopelessly behind is - real money.

This energy glitch was that tiny thread of hope where time and effort spent could actually earn you something in this game. Now that it's gone, I see nothing left here. I'm probably gonna play some more just because I love my guild members, but soon I'm gonna miss them.

See you on the other side!

[E-I]

This game is headed down the crapper. I am becoming more and more convinced that it is not worth it to spend gems outside of wars. They are making these raid boss/epic boss/box events so impossible that you need to spend 2-3 mountains to complete. That's just impossible for most people when there is a war every three weeks. This game isn't getting any more fun, it is just getting more expensive and more time consuming.

[Nissen]

The glitch was the hope thad we mith gain a littel with the Price of time, and i was atuly more pompelt to use gems. You made a huge mistake in taking away the only bone thad gave many players the Will to use time on the game, i Think Will make many drope the game kompletly, and Then there no income at all , better to keep players playing so Thy May spend gems , wich Thy Will be more compelled to do if there is hope thad it make a diffrens, thad is gorn now.

[Dogs Pizza]

I find this thread funny. The glitch was an unfair advantage that better connected guilds had over others in the game. It was an unfair advantage. Now that it is gone the playing field is level again for everyone. Meaning, if you want to get ahead you have to buy gems or be very active on the quests. Donate more gold to your guild and get the guild energy boosts purchased.
The glitches in the game have turned us all into cheaters that are now begging Gree to allow us to continue to cheat? How do you not see the irony in that?

[Kafelipeiii]

I find this thread funny. The glitch was an unfair advantage that better connected guilds had over others in the game. It was an unfair advantage. Now that it is gone the playing field is level again for everyone. Meaning, if you want to get ahead you have to buy gems or be very active on the quests. Donate more gold to your guild and get the guild energy boosts purchased.
The glitches in the game have turned us all into cheaters that are now begging Gree to allow us to continue to cheat? How do you not see the irony in that?

I see the irony, yet at the same time it gaves the average player an opportunty to invest time to compensate for lack of money. With the increase in the stats from the final rewards the divide between the top players (FUN, RK, et al) and the rest of the pack will continue to grow until the average players all retire and the top guilds have no one to compete against. That's when the game dies.

I'm already barely holding on due to the difficulty in the boss events for high level players, the raid boss difficulty for a top 200 guild (can't even finish regular now) and the random stupidity of the box events.

[Person]

I find this thread funny. The glitch was an unfair advantage that better connected guilds had over others in the game. It was an unfair advantage. Now that it is gone the playing field is level again for everyone. Meaning, if you want to get ahead you have to buy gems or be very active on the quests. Donate more gold to your guild and get the guild energy boosts purchased.
The glitches in the game have turned us all into cheaters that are now begging Gree to allow us to continue to cheat? How do you not see the irony in that?

well then it'd be us cheating and Gree cheating. Balance n stuff.

no Gree, keep the energy thing fixed and add a health glitch, that would be the fairest for all parties concerned :)

[Dogs Pizza]

I agree, the box events are awful. I used to like the boss events but now those are impossible as well. And I have pretty good stats, over 12mil at lvl 133, but i get stuck around 60-65 on the boss. They are making the boss tiers harder instead of opening up the level 200 lock.

[Guido69]

I basically agree with what you guys said. However, I think we all need to get rid of the perception to have to finish every event. Play within our means and get as far as we can. If we don't get the final prize, so be it. We need to change our attitude and the game becomes fun again.

We cannot change Gree and we should not even try. Let's get more relaxed and enjoy what we get.

[Lucky Day]

What'd y'all think was gonna happen after some douche nozzle posted step by step instructions on how to do it to almost every Gree forum.

[myxzyden]

What'd y'all think was gonna happen after some douche nozzle posted step by step instructions on how to do it to almost every Gree forum.

Exactly!!!!

[Chups Crow]

Be realistic, guys. Gree doesn't want the game to die, because if it did, there goes a source of revenue for them.

What are you talking about? Gree has a lot of new games they care about that has little glitches. KA is not one of their favorites and they want it gone. I've been saying this since the beginning. They'll take what the heavy gemmer's money left and leave this game.

[vromos]

Since de LTQ started, I got 50 points of energy dropping out of thin air doing the quest. Happened twice to me and several of guildmates also. lets say I got 250 energy and hit a 140 enrgy mob, I see my energy bar going to 110 and 1 second after -50 to 60 !

WTF! It's already hard, others out there got this?

[Geiteke]

This energy glitch was that tiny thread of hope where time and effort spent could actually earn you something in this game. Now that it's gone, I see nothing left here.For me, this says it all. This was one of the things that made the game fun, just a tool, that, together with a lot of dedication, actually could bring you to a finish line. And now all finish lines are well beyond the horizon for most players. I used to buy some gems from time to time, because a few gems sometimes could make a difference. But not anymore, now you need mountains, and I don't even see the point in buying gems anymore. I played this game for 16 months, but soon I will quite, there indeed is nothing left here...

[KillerVirus666]

4961

this meme becomes true in this case

[cheetah]

Since de LTQ started, I got 50 points of energy dropping out of thin air doing the quest. Happened twice to me and several of guildmates also. lets say I got 250 energy and hit a 140 enrgy mob, I see my energy bar going to 110 and 1 second after -50 to 60 !

WTF! It's already hard, others out there got this? thats from the mob hitting you back

[Totalwar]

Yep Gree tried fix it and now it bugged lol.

[Shiloh]

I find this thread funny. The glitch was an unfair advantage that better connected guilds had over others in the game. It was an unfair advantage. Now that it is gone the playing field is level again for everyone. Meaning, if you want to get ahead you have to buy gems or be very active on the quests. Donate more gold to your guild and get the guild energy boosts purchased.
The glitches in the game have turned us all into cheaters that are now begging Gree to allow us to continue to cheat? How do you not see the irony in that?

The glitch was extremely well known, I bet most of the top 500 if not most of the top 1000 guilds knew about it. It did allow marginal guilds/players some sense of keeping up, right or wrong, and without it, many will log in less, play less and lose interest as they lose even more ground to gemmers. Th game has been in a death spiral anyways, but I tend to agree that this will have catastrophic results to everyone not in the top 100 guilds. But then again, never underestimate the power of addiction.

[Valid or]

After seeing the energy glitch plastered on different forum topics from a disgruntled CC player, I fully expected it to get fixed, but was very surprised with how fast gree patched it. Took them a cupple of days since it got posted. Way faster than some of the other bugs.

[The red Baron]

GREE did need weeks to fix it. There were post in the Forum about the glitch which were erased by GREE.

[Voxker]

Why complete these events when they're bugged 99% of the time? dash out these gems for the events that doesnt work properly most of the time, better off letting us using these glitches.

[Shatai]

GREE did need weeks to fix it. There were post in the Forum about the glitch which were erased by GREE.

I wonder if this is why the "Missing Alchemist" event went missing. They wanted to fix this glitch before releasing another LTQ where it could be used :P

[Rocco69]

Well, whatever "fix" they pushed out im now noticing my energy bar flashes full when i open the game then drops to whatever level i guess i should have and then sometimes my kill doesnt count nor reduce my energy as much as it should
for example:
Shard Bat on lvl 17 of quest; supposed to be 170 energy to kill - i hit it, kill it yet energy only drops 34 and i dont get credit for the kill but i do get the gold drop. happened twice in a row. third time worked fully so 3 kills one registered and 68 energy wasted (unless you think the gold drop was worth the bug)

[Jerusalem]

I basically agree with what you guys said. However, I think we all need to get rid of the perception to have to finish every event. Play within our means and get as far as we can. If we don't get the final prize, so be it. We need to change our attitude and the game becomes fun again.

We cannot change Gree and we should not even try. Let's get more relaxed and enjoy what we get.

Very well said.

[Spook]

Very well said.

make this easy... everyone just quit... let FUN and RK play by themselves. Half the idiots that say they won't spend a single cent on the game anymore are the culprits that are still spending... not as heavily but still spending... I've lost all faith in Gree games.. I advise everyone to write them up poor reviews/ratings on itunes stores/gamer app reviewer sites as well.. just so new customers don't make the same mistakes..

[sister morphine]

We were so active, but all is destroyed because of the stat inflation, it doesn't matter how any gems you buy, you will never come even close by the TOP25 players of the game..
Totally! During the witches lair event I got hit by Alleran for the first time - then his attack was about double mine. Now it's more than three times stronger. Just ridiculous.

The value for money of this game is complete rubbish. Gree treat it like some premium product when in reality it's a mass market one and should be priced as such. 25 gems for 4 hits in war is terrible bang for the buck unless you're one of those with money to burn. If it was say, 10 gems for 4 hits, maybe some non-gemmers who consider buying 240 or 650 gems for war but decide against because they don't get much for it would do so. I can't see it would reduce usage amongst the big spenders as they'd all get the benefit.

[sister morphine]

I find this thread funny. The glitch was an unfair advantage that better connected guilds had over others in the game. It was an unfair advantage. Now that it is gone the playing field is level again for everyone. Meaning, if you want to get ahead you have to buy gems or be very active on the quests. Donate more gold to your guild and get the guild energy boosts purchased.
The glitches in the game have turned us all into cheaters that are now begging Gree to allow us to continue to cheat? How do you not see the irony in that?
You have a curious notion of a level paying field when some players probably spend more money each month on this game than many others even earn.

[senna]

You have a curious notion of a level paying field when some players probably spend more money each month on this game than many others even earn.

What's wrong with what he said? It was an unfair advantage to people not using it.

What tips the playing field is the amount of spending each individual put in. We all want to get stronger stats than the other bloke and you jolly well know this is a pay to win game.

[sister morphine]

What's wrong with what he said? It was an unfair advantage to people not using it.

What tips the playing field is the amount of spending each individual put in. We all want to get stronger stats than the other bloke and you jolly well know this is a pay to win game.
My comment was about the notion of a level playing field, which is anything but as its dependant on how much disposable income a player has. Wasn't talking about the energy glitch. Perhaps I should have been clearer.

[Person]

What's wrong with what he said? It was an unfair advantage to people not using it.

What tips the playing field is the amount of spending each individual put in. We all want to get stronger stats than the other bloke and you jolly well know this is a pay to win game.

it wasnt, people not using it just didnt know how to play the game. they they did find it "unfair" they should use it themselves.

and pay to win is one thing, this is turning into a "be a millionaire to play" kinda game.

[-H-]

I basically agree with what you guys said. However, I think we all need to get rid of the perception to have to finish every event. Play within our means and get as far as we can. If we don't get the final prize, so be it. We need to change our attitude and the game becomes fun again.

We cannot change Gree and we should not even try. Let's get more relaxed and enjoy what we get.

Couldn't have said it better myself :)

Be thankful there was a glitch in the first place an that you had the opportunity to take advantage of it.

[Alexius]

So let me get this right, people think that by removing the glitch for energy it will level the playing field for lower guilds to be able to get ahead in the game by doing xp heavy quests for units that pale in comparison to war units, box event units, and raid boss units which give you much less xp if any at all. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale if anyone is interested, very prestigious.....

[Kidder]

Fixing the trick will be the deathblow to the game, just watch.

Agreed.... Unfortunately.

[kruppe]

The sad thing about this is that a quirky bug that the players actually enjoyed was fixed very quickly, whereas bugs such as health regen, display digits or disappearing gems cannot be fixed. Truly misanthropic...

[Shadows]

The sad thing about this is that a quirky bug that the players actually enjoyed was fixed very quickly, whereas bugs such as health regen, display digits or disappearing gems cannot be fixed. Truly misanthropic...

Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[kruppe]

Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Inconceivable! Lol do you?

Because what else would describe the lack of support and the rapid reduction of the playing experience. War ranking lists, anyone...?

[KM KAge]

The sad thing about this is that a quirky bug that the players actually enjoyed was fixed very quickly, whereas bugs such as health regen, display digits or disappearing gems cannot be fixed. Truly misanthropic...
The logic is quite simple.
If the bug costs GREE money
THEN Fix it immediately even if it generates another bug
END.
If the bug costs Players money to compensate
THEN END.

[Shadows]

Inconceivable! Lol do you?

Ya gotta love The Princess Bride! :-)

As for words to describe this, maybe incompetence? Planned obsolescence? Apathetic? As opposed to hating humanity in general ;-)

[Schar]

This isn't the first time they have tried to fix the bug. There was a quest a few months ago where energy regen stopped completely, and energy was vanishing for no reason. It was quickly rolled back but it was targeted at this fix. Seems that in the intervening months they have fixed it.

Someone will find new tricks, no doubt.

[candii]

This isn't the first time they have tried to fix the bug. There was a quest a few months ago where energy regen stopped completely, and energy was vanishing for no reason. It was quickly rolled back but it was targeted at this fix. Seems that in the intervening months they have fixed it.
this is happening to me. energy is vanishing for no reason. I started a thread about it but not a lot of other players chimed in. I sent in a ticket. the reply I just got was unrelated to my issue and my ticket was closed. frustrating

[Schar]

I suspect they have just offloaded a bunch of stuff to the server and no longer trust the client (kinda have to in a MM game to preserve honesty).

Good in theory, if the servers can a) cope with the load and b) are bug-free.

[Yipster]

I must the only person who didn't know what the energy glitch was. What a mug I am! Out of interest, what was it??

[Person]

The logic is quite simple.
If the bug costs GREE money
THEN Fix it immediately even if it generates another bug
END.
If the bug costs Players money to compensate
THEN END.

"fix it immediately"

lol, its been around for near 2 years xD

[the_bob]

Everyone acts like this was the only energy glitch in the game.

But I've said too much already...

[Max Power]

Inconceivable! Lol do you?

Because what else would describe the lack of support and the rapid reduction of the playing experience. War ranking lists, anyone...?

It's a stretch:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/misanthropic?s=t

A very long stretch.....