Next war over Thanksgiving

[taxman]

Awesome work Gree. I will be thankful for the fact that I won't be spending anything.

[Hersh]

Wow, really gree? Enjoy the loss in gem sales. Move it back a weekend, this is almost as bad a Christmas war.

[Nacon10]

this has to be pushed back a weekend this is stupid. is gree against families and real life

[Hersh]

Oh yeah, good point Nacon :P

[SenorSwamp]

Thanksgiving = no bueno.

[garen argon]

the timing of this war; it makes me wonder how much revenue is generated by those not in the USA.

[Dogs Pizza]

stupid stupid Gree... Never learn

[Chups Crow]

The first announced dates is always wrong anyway.

[bigex123]

I sure hope so. Because thanksgiving war= no war for a lot of people. Except FUN they always fight and win.

[Finsfan]

Black Friday (day after thanksgiving) usually get a 40% off sale. Which means tons of $. Gree isn't stupid lol

[Rastlin]

this has to be pushed back a weekend this is stupid. is gree against families and real life
Just like Retail! Boycott any retail stores opened on Thanksgiving Day....

[Namine33]

My wife will kill me if I spend Thanksgiving Weekend playing this (or any other game).
She has already informed me that we are going on a mini vacation, and that I am not allowed to bring the ipad or itouch with us.

Considering I am far from a select few who wont be available that weekend, they really need to change it to the following weekend.

[Donks]

Yeah, the US have a holiday so the rest of the world should work around it! :rolleyes:

[Dexter Morgan]

Gree plans to move it up a weekend, so prepare for battle next weekend :)

[Namine33]

Yeah, the US have a holiday so the rest of the world should work around it! :rolleyes:

Get bent. Granted, if they accommodated every nation's holiday, then they would never have an event.
That said, we have sat by all year while they aimed at American Holidays. No big deal, except Thanksgiving and Christmas weekends are huge family affairs.

and OMG.. I said Christmas... not Holidays...

[bigex123]

Gree plans to move it up a weekend, so prepare for battle next weekend :)

I sure hope you are right

[Cola3]

A Thanksgiving war will be great timing for me since I have no life. What else is there to do during Thanksgiving beside eating a turkey sandwich by yourself. For those with life, tough luck, sorry for you.

[Person]

what i read here is mostly "us americans dont like it, change it!"

if its pushed back 1 week its a dutch family holiday, so that obviously cant happen to.

[Rasputin]

Guys, this isn't that complicated, and there's no conspiracy here. Wars are held every 3 weeks. The scheduling is not a secret.

The dates for the next wars are:
12/20-22
1/10-13
1/31-2/3
2/21-24
3/14-17
4/4-7
4/25-28
Etc...

[taxman]

This is a game created by a US company located on California. It is also probably the biggest non religious family holiday in the US. It is a very big deal.

[Person]

yes, created by an american company. Called Funzio. Then bought by a Japanese company. Called Gree. so if they should keep any holidays, it should be Japanese holidays.

[Fredcole]

As this is a "hobby" im supposed to practise in my free time, the best thing for me is to have wars in a holiday..

[Nacon10]

Black Friday (day after thanksgiving) usually get a 40% off sale. Which means tons of $. Gree isn't stupid lol

good point. looking to stack up for the rest of the year.

[Hersh]

what i read here is mostly "us americans dont like it, change it!"

if its pushed back 1 week its a dutch family holiday, so that obviously cant happen to.

Yeah, how many Americans play, versus Dutch players?

There's two weekends, more than any others, in America that are entirely centered on spending time with your family; Christmas and thanksgiving.

All you people acting like any American person complaining about this is selfish, are freaking moronic, and have no sense of perspective. You knew what this thread was about before you clicked it, if that's honestly how you feel, gtfo and stfu.

Who wouldn't be upset that something they enjoy, not to mention spend way too much money and time on, is being placed during a time when they KNOW that many of their players will be trying to spend quality time (which many do not get) with their loved ones, from near and far?

And no person, this is not aimed at you, or Meant against you personally.

[Shiloh]

As this is a "hobby" im supposed to practise in my free time, the best thing for me is to have wars in a holiday..

Lol, substitute 'addiction' for 'hobby' and this post would be more accurate.

[Rastlin]

And no person, this is not aimed at you, or Meant against you personally.
Oh, it should be!! Those dutch are an ornery bunch. I have even heard they rip the wings off Butterflies just for fun!!! And Person, the orneriest of them all. I even heard he is the leader of the butterfly wing amputee-rs... Sad times these are...

[Zenobia]

I don't know what percent of KA players are American vs. not, but to give you all an idea how how "big" a holiday Thanksgiving is here, I used to be a retail store manager for a large clothing chain. And there were exactly THREE days a year the store closed. Christmas, Easter, and, you guessed it, Thanksgiving. Clearly, for a retail establishment to actually not open its doors the entire day, the day that marks the beginning of the part of the year that puts the store "in the black" again no less, means being with faimly that time is THAT important.

I was expected to be there bright and early on New Year's Day, miss hot dogs and fireworks the afternoon and evening of Independence Day, and no taking my Mom to brunch on Mother's Day, or Dad on his day. But THANKSGIVING, these slave drivers even had the respect for the importance of this time with one's family. It is a huge disappointment that Gree has decided to once again force us to choose game or family on the second most important family day of the year. They already stole half a dozen of the medium-sized family holidays of this year. But forcing us to either let our guild or our family down on Thanksgiving weekend is a new low.

As another indication of the importance of this family holiday to us, NO other time of year has anywhere close to as many plane reservations. To not spend quality time with family on thanksgiving is highly offensive. EVERYONE does. Even when I worked retail and had to work the night before and morning after Thanksgiving, I traveled to be with family. Every time. Even if it meant a non-traditional one in Vegas with my sister, "half-way" between L.A. and Dallas lol.

[Bourque]

The war is on American thanksgiving, Americans need to cool down and realise that there is a rest of the world. I dont think it would be fair to change it just for one nation

[KenjoMegi1]

ok so while you guys ponder over the dates which will be changes probably tomorrow(hopefully to a later date), I have another question. What does the Top 500 unit mean by +4 Total Building Upgrades?
Does it mean a max of 4 buildings can be upgraded at once, 4 more buildings can be upgraded at once on top of any other concurrent building upgrades, or one of my guild members thinks it means possible higher than lvl 10 buildings. What are youre thoughts?
-Kenjo Megi
-Scions of Abaddon-

[Master Stormzs]

Wow, really gree? Enjoy the loss in gem sales. Move it back a weekend, this is almost as bad a Christmas war.

Totally agree, date needs to be changed!! But lets not give Gree any other ideas ;)


this has to be pushed back a weekend this is stupid. is gree against families and real life

Lol, good one Nacon....so typically of Coroprate Gre...

[zach123]

Be happy if it is moved back they moved last one forward so now they can compensate and EVERYONE complains about wars being too close together and now that their is a relatively valid reason EVERYONE is complaining about the war getting moved. This is quite funny as everyone is acting like a complete hypocrite since a majority of the people here wanted more time between wars and now suddenly they want less and anyways this would get rid of 2 wars in one month for at least this month so be happy.

[Person]

Yeah, how many Americans play, versus Dutch players?

There's two weekends, more than any others, in America that are entirely centered on spending time with your family; Christmas and thanksgiving.

All you people acting like any American person complaining about this is selfish, are freaking moronic, and have no sense of perspective. You knew what this thread was about before you clicked it, if that's honestly how you feel, gtfo and stfu.

Who wouldn't be upset that something they enjoy, not to mention spend way too much money and time on, is being placed during a time when they KNOW that many of their players will be trying to spend quality time (which many do not get) with their loved ones, from near and far?

And no person, this is not aimed at you, or Meant against you personally.

i'm not taking it personal, but to think an international company should care about national holidays is the moronic thing here. And as for the dutch family holiday thing, that was an example with which i hoped to get the reaction you gave. Because what you are saying now is that Americans are more entitled to get dates changed than people from other countries. We are all equal here, so if Gree has any integrity left they will keep these dates. Otherwise they would make it appear the americans would be "more equal".

[echus14]

Aw heck. Juz stop arguing and pass the turkey, will ya?! LOL

[It's all a dream]

maybe we should start by giving thanks to Gree :p

[Shelob]

Yesterday (11/11) was Armistice Day and nobody stopped fighting.
Apparently a turkey is more important.

[Iron Maiden]

I can understand that it's hard to arrange weekends around everyone's holidays and beliefs. I think if people are saying they have to choose between spending time with family or playing a game then that is their personal choice. It's unfortunate that not everyone can be pleased with the weekends all the time. If I recall correctly conquest fell on both Mother's Day and Father's Day and I'm sure numerous other holidays... A choice to set the game down for a moment is all that's needed. As for a large portion of my concern is battling on Black Friday... How to shop and scout.... ;)

[Namine33]

Mother's Day, but few had complaints.
Father's Day, but few had complaints.
July 4th, but few had complaints.
The list goes on.
However, Thanksgiving and Christmas are two big holidays. Hell, I doubt all that many would complain about New Years.
In fact, few would likely complain about Christmas (this year) since it falls on a Wednesday.


On a side note, try moving this to 6 week intervals.

[-H-]

Guys, this isn't that complicated, and there's no conspiracy here. Wars are held every 3 weeks. The scheduling is not a secret.


That won't stop people trying to change it or complaining tho....
If u don't want to play or have other commitments then it's your choice to miss the war.

[Áed]

Here's my take. Hobby, addiction or whatever you call it, we play this game because we want to. Gree wants to make money, period. Let them schedule wars whenever they want, and we can "choose" to play or not. I personally will not be playing on Thanksgiving weekend, or maybe in a very diminished fashion. If my guild wants me to leave I will undertsand.

In the end if Gree does not move it, we shall see what it means for them financially. Stand up for yourselves, take a war off, focus on life, redesign your kingdom, connect with guild mates in a non-tap, tap, tap fashion. Better yet, let's not talk about not spending gems, just do it for once, and Gree will get the message. In the end, we are either keepers of our words or hypocrites. The Choice is Yours!!!

[Max Power]

This is a game created by a US company located on California. It is also probably the biggest non religious family holiday in the US. It is a very big deal.

Nothing on a voluntary phone game is a "very big deal". Period.

Perspective seems to be in short supply in these games.

[dookie]

as USUAL no response from the powers at be at Gree........when you have finished with the bucket of sand can I please rest my head in it?

[Person]

in this case no response is a response. We dont care. For the first time the right response lol.

[Capitalsfanatic]

Yeah, the US have a holiday so the rest of the world should work around it! :rolleyes:

Other nations around the world have their unique and special holidays, true. Thanksgiving is very special in the US as it brings families together. You might want to show some respect for that.

Now, that being said, if Gree can handle the loss of US revenue and it's impact on their "bottom line," then Thanksgiving battles shouldn't bother them. I suspect the US revenue stream is substantial, which might upset Gree shareholders. But, Gree will do what they want and when the November revenue reports show a "dip" in profit margin and YtY growth, Gree might have their own case of sticker shock. Maybe, just maybe.

[RandomUser]

If they didn't give a rat's ass about any other holiday weekend (Easter, Mother's Day, etc.) that war fell on, they won't about this one, either.

Step 1. Schedule war regardless of when people want it
Step 2. ??
Step 3. Huge profit

[Angharod]

Other nations around the world have their unique and special holidays, true. Thanksgiving is very special in the US as it brings families together. You might want to show some respect for that.

My guild is about half American and half western European, and the attitude among the group as a whole is that we will all pass on wars that take place on major family holidays in the US and Europe. So, yeah, "hear hear" to the idea of respecting major holidays. It's an overstatement to say that respecting major holidays on an international scale would result in never having a war. There are only 2-3 per year in most regions.

We're not going to stamp our feet or complain to Gree. The schedule is their decision, and it's this customer's decision to say, "No, thanks." Not spending money is the only communication commerce understands. If enough money votes no, a company will make a different decision in future. If enough ppl don't care about the timing and there is no dip in revenue, no change. Oh well.

[Angharod]

Step 1. Schedule war regardless of when people want it
Step 2. ??
Step 3. Huge profit

Does #2 perhaps involve walking around the office with stolen underpants on one's head?

[alonibb]

Well.. We in Europe are constantly screwed having every GLTQ start when we are going to bed. So I dont mind having a war on a USA holiday. Like some already have said. If Gree adjusts to USA holidays they should for every country because its a global game. The argument that Gree will loose money is an argument I laugh about. Its also unfair that the war ends on a monday. Players not working has an advantage. Come on! Be with you family and forget the war for once. Its a new one in 2-3 weeks anyway.

The problem with wars on holidays will be minor if Gree decided to do a war only once each month.

[Angharod]

The argument that Gree will loose money is an argument I laugh about.

You obviously haven't seen my gem habit.

[Person]

Other nations around the world have their unique and special holidays, true. Thanksgiving is very special in the US as it brings families together. You might want to show some respect for that.

Now, that being said, if Gree can handle the loss of US revenue and it's impact on their "bottom line," then Thanksgiving battles shouldn't bother them. I suspect the US revenue stream is substantial, which might upset Gree shareholders. But, Gree will do what they want and when the November revenue reports show a "dip" in profit margin and YtY growth, Gree might have their own case of sticker shock. Maybe, just maybe.

i'm not disrespecting your holiday at all, but expecting the rest of the world to adapt to your family holidays is just plain ridiculous.

[alonibb]

You obviously haven't seen my gem habit.
I can imagine:) However how much more money will Gree get to postpone the war 1 weak? Maybe that gives 1 war less 2013. The non USA players how worthless they may even be for Gree should give more money than zero.

[Raistlin-MN]

The last time a war was run over a a major US Holiday weekend it was Memorial Day weekend, which was the battle for Darkhome.
Average CP for top 10 over Memorial Day Weekend: 9,574,944 (Darkhome, 5/24-5/28)
Average CP for top 10 the next war after Darkhome: 17,010,555 (Shipwreck Cove, 8/16-8/19)

8 of the top 10 guilds in Shipwreck Cove scored MORE than the average of the top 10 in Darkhome.

Just sayin.

[Angharod]

Was there a lot of complaining about a war on Memorial Day weekend? Sorry, I don't do crap for Memorial Day. Thanksgiving is the holiday with the heaviest travel, including trips across country to be with family. I've never traveled out of state or farther for Memorial Day. It's common for Thanksgiving. There is no Memorial Day Black Friday. Memorial Day is not in any way comparable to the event that Thanksgiving is. None of which matters. Our guild won't participate. Others will. I get the impression from the forum that Gree won't care either way.

[Raistlin-MN]

Was there a lot of complaining about a war on Memorial Day weekend? Sorry, I don't do crap for Memorial Day.

There was a goodly amount of complaining about the Memorial Day Event:
http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?54448-Conquest-of-Kings-Darkhome-5-24-to-5-28

I posted in SUPPORT of moving the war - not just because I'm a Yank that loves his turkey, stuffing and green bean casserole more than I love having an iDevice or two strapped to my hip. It's just numbers, man. That support moving it, regardless of where you're from.

[Capitalsfanatic]

My guild is about half American and half western European, and the attitude among the group as a whole is that we will all pass on wars that take place on major family holidays in the US and Europe. So, yeah, "hear hear" to the idea of respecting major holidays. It's an overstatement to say that respecting major holidays on an international scale would result in never having a war. There are only 2-3 per year in most regions.

We're not going to stamp our feet or complain to Gree. The schedule is their decision, and it's this customer's decision to say, "No, thanks." Not spending money is the only communication commerce understands. If enough money votes no, a company will make a different decision in future. If enough ppl don't care about the timing and there is no dip in revenue, no change. Oh well.

Agreed. All good points. Money talks, and...well, we know the rest. Gree will do what Gree will do. It is our choice to participate, or not.

[-H-]

It's not an international holiday so just leave it as it is.

I haven't seen threads from other countries asking for wars and events to be moved due to their national holidays.
Changing the war date would just show favoritism and discriminate against the rest of the world.

I'm not a US based player and the start end end times for wars and events are extremely inconvenient as alonibb stated earlier.

Play if u can, don't play if u can't.... Just don't ask the rest of the world to change cause it's a inconvenience to you.

[dookie]

well, what will be, will be

[It's all a dream]

The last time a war was run over a a major US Holiday weekend it was Memorial Day weekend, which was the battle for Darkhome.
Average CP for top 10 over Memorial Day Weekend: 9,574,944 (Darkhome, 5/24-5/28)
Average CP for top 10 the next war after Darkhome: 17,010,555 (Shipwreck Cove, 8/16-8/19)

8 of the top 10 guilds in Shipwreck Cove scored MORE than the average of the top 10 in Darkhome.

Just sayin.

maybe start with the reason Darkhome had low cp. It was a boycotted war. Almost all top50 played free or mostly free that war.

[Namine33]

It's not an international holiday so just leave it as it is.

I haven't seen threads from other countries asking for wars and events to be moved due to their national holidays.
Changing the war date would just show favoritism and discriminate against the rest of the world.

I'm not a US based player and the start end end times for wars and events are extremely inconvenient as alonibb stated earlier.

Play if u can, don't play if u can't.... Just don't ask the rest of the world to change cause it's a inconvenience to you.
Show me a universal holiday?
Christmas isnt called Christmas anymore... we are forced to say Happy Holidays, not Merry Christmas.
New Years? Ask the Chinese what 1 January means to them.
It isnt too much to ask them to change one war this year to accommodate the 75% of the games population that is US.
I live in Japan, so my time zone isnt conducive to their hours either, as events start and end at 4am for me.

[echus14]

I hate to say this but ... in the end ... if you don't like the timing ... don't play ... those who do will appreciate it.
For all the talk that family is more important than the game ... if a major war/LTQ is scheduled for that day, how many players will NOT play? Some will show fortitude, many will cave and quietly sneak in hits, and others will gripe because they CANNOT play because they were in an impossible position to do so (eg, in front of the new in-laws, parents or on a plane). GREE knows that most players will be there ... so the game goes on.

[-H-]

Namine,

Well then have just solidified my point...... War is scheduled.

As plenty of others have already said..... Play or don't play the option is yours.

[It's all a dream]

im playing. im addicted :)

[E-I]

Time to quit and delete the game. Gree can burn in hell. :p

[It's all a dream]

As long as they don't burn the turkey :)

[Jolt]

A Thanksgiving war will be great timing for me since I have no life. What else is there to do during Thanksgiving beside eating a turkey sandwich by yourself. For those with life, tough luck, sorry for you.

If you aren't like Cola and have a life it's an easy decision between RL family and KA family. If that decision is a struggle for you maybe it's time to seek help and detox from KA all together.

[Jolt]

It's not an international holiday so just leave it as it is.


I'm not a US based player and the start end end times for wars and events are extremely inconvenient as alonibb stated earlier.



I am a US player and while the war start and stop times may not be while I'm sleeping, they are in the middle of normal working days. Either way it sucks for many players...US or not.

[David.]

This war on thanksgiving is perfect. Finally a succesful boycot, maybe...

[Ratma2001]

Now is my chance to Trounce all these Guilds not playing, as we dont celebrate Thanks Giving in OZ i will be out there Whooping everyone except Cola! win win for me, and lose lose for USA players....hope their is a 40% off sale so i can really get the CP and the units
Thankyou
ps..sorry for all those State side for this timing of this war, but i have to take what i can get

[Capitalsfanatic]

Family will be in town, lots of activities planned for Thankgiving and the weekend. My kids are grown with families of their own. Getting to see then and the grand kids on Turkey Day is a win for me. KA will have its battles and I'll pass until the next one.

[Ratma2001]

All those taking the break for Thanks Giving, can you please also leave ALL your buildings uncollected as i will do the rounds and collect and hold it for you, just post level and name for me....thanks