This WAR is Absurd with fighting the same TOP guilds over and over!!!

[Rastlin]

We have only fought the same guilds over and over this war!! FUN four times, RK at least twice so fair, TRK at least twice, SB twice, and now TDK 5 times!!!!!! FU GREE!!!!!! I am done with wars!!!!! I am done with you GREE using us as everyone else's punching bags!!!!!!!! I am done with giving you another dime!!!!!!! We worked or tails off with no freaking sleep and money for a week straight to then not even have boosts work for most of the first day!!!!! Shame on you GREE!!!! Shame on you!!!! Fraud is all you have done with all your paying customers!!!! Fraud!!!!!!!!
And take your fraking surveys you keep sending me and shove them up your A$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BAN ME I don't give a Rats A$$!!!!!!!!

[Voxker]

or you can wait until FUN, SB/TRK, RK's points go up.

[Rastlin]

or you can wait until FUN, SB/TRK, RK's points go up.
Dude!!! Don't even right now!!!!!!!!

[Zenobia]

Don't be dense, voxker. We're so not in the mood for your MoC hate/trolling. Obviously that will not help against #4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9, which we have clearly mentioned we get as much. And they wait for the top 3 to move so we would obviously then get them if we waited, which is no better... As our fourth or fifth encounter right now with FDK proves.

[Skyraiders]

or you can wait until FUN, SB/TRK, RK's points go up.

Seriously.....you must be a GREE cheer leader ....with your gem Pom- poms ......you really don't have anything constructive to say....obviously we have tried that as well.....

Here is how it works .....FUN declares....FUN moves....RK declares .....FUN and RK moving...SB declares....All three moving.....then the rest of the top ten declare ....I think you should know that......

[Cru Jones]

For what it's worth it's happening to us too (Band of Barbarians). FUN, RK, and SB back-to back-to back. In addition to the FDK's, the TRK's, etc... It doesn't make it better for you but you're not alone.

[Zenobia]

For what it's worth it's happening to us too (Band of Barbarians). FUN, RK, and SB back-to back-to back. In addition to the FDK's, the TRK's, etc... It doesn't make it better for you but you're not alone.
If one of your players hd not left two EXTREMELY unsportsmanlike comments on one of our walls, I'd offer you guys some sympathy too.

[Bohemian]

or you can wait until FUN, SB/TRK, RK's points go up.

Moc not new with this. Try to put yourself in MoC situation. Dont be an ash..

[rsd007]

Gree should understand the difference between a challenging game and a frustrating one, Gree support claims that Matching depends on our guild total attack, how good you are doing in the event (rank or CP) and how many matches u had during the event, and that those numbers relax "slightly" over time.
Our total attack is less than half FUN 's or RK's (yet we matched few times)
everyone have similar # of matches so this is not a parameter to count on.
We are top 25 but even when we were in top 400 we still matched FUN.
Clearly Gree's algorithm is set to "frustrate" not to "match"

[Joie]

We had royal k, fun and samurai back to back to back and we aren't even a top ten 10. Doesn't make much sense but at least gree saved us some gems on those three wars

[Voxker]

lol? i said one little and it started trouble in the neighborhood.

skyraiders... this has nothing to do with gree lmfao

[Mr. Sirmanchoo]

lol? i said one little and it started trouble in the neighborhood.

skyraiders... this has nothing to do with gree lmfao

Your statement was an assumption like they weren't doing that. It would have been a better approach if you had just asked them if they were watching the declares, rather than telling them what to do like they hadn't been doing that originally. If I were them I would have responded in exactly the same way.

[Rastlin]

lol? i said one little and it started trouble in the neighborhood.

skyraiders... this has nothing to do with gree lmfao
Dude!!! Get out of here!!! I am going to use every last gem I have on TAG if we get them again!!!! Tell your Guild you made it personal between MoC and TAG from now on because YOU can't learn when to shut YOUR freaking 13 year old mouth!!!!!!!! Pretty sure we already beat your twice, hope the next time you guys are at an end of a steak!!!! TAG leaders find me when you have removed this fool from your guild.....

[Voxker]

Your statement was an assumption like they weren't doing that. It would have been a better approach if you had just asked them if they were watching the declares, rather than telling them what to do like they hadn't been doing that originally. If I were them I would have responded in exactly the same way.

so an appropriate response is to troll me out huh?

[Voxker]

Dude!!! Get out of here!!! I am going to use every last gem I have on TAG if we get them again!!!! Tell your Guild you made it personal between MoC and TAG from now on because YOU can't learn when to shut YOUR freaking 13 year old mouth!!!!!!!! Pretty sure we already beat your twice, hope the next time you guys are at an end of a steak!!!! TAG leaders find me when you have removed this fool from your guild.....

wow you overreact over the nonsense that i said? lmao

[Rastlin]

wow you overreact over the nonsense that i said? lmao
You are stupid arn't you...... Keep poking me Shill !!!

[Voxker]

You are stupid arn't you...... Keep poking me Shill !!!

keep being rude.

also we dont have steaks.

[Mr. Sirmanchoo]

so an appropriate response is to troll me out huh?

I was just saying that the explosion that you caused could have been avoided had you worded it differently and made it a question rather than a statement.

And I am very sorry for MoC and BoB :( That is some rotten luck you guys are having.

[Rastlin]

keep being rude.

also we dont have steaks.
Just make sure you tell your Guild why they will see MoC in their kingdoms everyday Shill !!!

[Voxker]

Just make sure you tell your Guild why they will see MoC in their kingdoms everyday Shill !!!

ok little troll.

[Rastlin]

so an appropriate response is to troll me out huh?
You are the only Troll in the forums, and you have been told so more than by a few people, you little shill

[Rastlin]

ok little troll.
You are so dumb that you don't even know what a Troll is.... You came into my thread... not me into yours... You are such a fool, Just send your guild here so they know you were asked to stop right away, and knew I was already mad, but wanted to keep poking me...

[anchlovi]

Sorry MoC for you current war experience. Try (as much as you can) to take it easy.

All not top25 guilds complained about the new matching engine, but Gree doesn't care and they will never care if FUN and RK will continue with current war gem burning

[Voxker]

You are so dumb that you don't even know what a Troll is.... You came into my thread... not me into yours... You are such a fool, Just send your guild here so they know you were asked to stop right away, and knew I was already mad, but wanted to keep poking me...

yes, you kept going so i keep poking at you, thats what a troll is.

[Zenobia]

Sorry MoC for you current war experience. Try (as much as you can) to take it easy.

All not top25 guilds complained about the new matching engine, but Gree doesn't care and they will never care if FUN and RK will continue with current war gem burning

All the matching woes for everyone outside the top 10 started when gree "fixed" the matching system (pun inteneded) to satisfy FUN's demands they get shorter matching times. They claim their changes are not to keep the whales happy but I don't believe them. Has everyone read this illumintaing article? http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/195806/

[Cola3]

All the matching woes for everyone outside the top 10 started when gree "fixed" the matching system (pun inteneded) to satisfy FUN's demands they get shorter matching times. They claim their changes are not to keep the whales happy but I don't believe them. Has everyone read this illumintaing article? http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/195806/

That link is right now very appropriate with whats happening to both RK and FUN this war.

[Big-R]

You really do complain a lot.
MoC annoyed a lot of people with there boring look how awesome we are, caw caw, talk. Obviously you annoyed the devs as well. Now all you do is complain. That'll make them more likely to help you.

[Zenobia]

We had one big accomplishment we were proud of as we deserved to be, especially since we are not a top guild, and got the top spot. We celebrated a few days and hardly ever say anything about in any more. I have no idea why the legion of MoC haters has not dropped it.

Any of you complaining about MoC complaiming clearly suffer from selective reading. You skip the threads where we congratulate other guild' victories, where we offer condolences to those who lost loved ones, where we answer game questions as best we can, and thank Gree when they do something cool like the sh@dow unit and introducing guild war quests and the FUN epic boss thing, etc.

If you actually took the time to read all we say here, you would see we are not one-track rag on Gree minds. But no. A slew of you people see a few negative posts and jump to the coclusion ALL MoC members post ALL negative posts. CDid you ever stop to consider that it is who flocking to negative threads causing you to see all negative?

Yes, we do express some negativity. When you pay for a product that does not deliver what it promised, do you not complain either! Or are we just supposed to take what we are given and be happy it was faulty or never deliverd or on half-assed? Is that how we are supposed to react? Please do tell, all of you who think we complain to much? When we do not get what we paid for, what oh great minds, are we supposed to do about it? Say, "that's great! I worked hard and paid for the lich summoner bonuses and did not get them. Hooray! "

[Big-R]

And there's another one, we congratulate for this, we applaud for that. So do most other active forum members, but they don't feel the need to shout about the fact they did it.
Yes things are wrong with the game, no coming on here and moaning about everything doesn't change it.
There's 3 topics on the current new posts page with you complaining. Maybe you could just have an MoC complaint thread and do it all in that one?
Yes congratulations on your achievement, it was a very good achievement and you did well. Yet it's common knowledge if you post on the forum about something that's good, gree change it. Like loot drops or easy events. Maybe if you hadn't spent so much time slapping each other on the back on here, they wouldn't of paid it much attention and you wouldn't be having this problem ever since.
Maybe what you should ask yourself more, is why is there such a legion of people who dislike your guild? Work on that and maybe better things will come.

[Dirt road Joe]

And there's another one, we congratulate for this, we applaud for that. So do most other active forum members, but they don't feel the need to shout about the fact they did it.
Yes things are wrong with the game, no coming on here and moaning about everything doesn't change it.
There's 3 topics on the current new posts page with you complaining. Maybe you could just have an MoC complaint thread and do it all in that one?
Yes congratulations on your achievement, it was a very good achievement and you did well. Yet it's common knowledge if you post on the forum about something that's good, gree change it. Like loot drops or easy events. Maybe if you hadn't spent so much time slapping each other on the back on here, they wouldn't of paid it much attention and you wouldn't be having this problem ever since.
Maybe what you should ask yourself more, is why is there such a legion of people who dislike your guild? Work on that and maybe better things will come.

I decided to log on for this one :) MoC is made up of a very diverse group of people. They are people from all around the world with different races, religions, and attitudes. Now before I get too far, I would like to add that MoC is very active on the forums and they all have a signature tag. So naturally it would be easier to spot them on the forum unlike all the other members who don't have any signature or any way to affiliate them with any guild. With that said, MoC is built up with people with different views and opinions. So of course there are going to be those that choose to complain and those that keep their mouths shut, those who troll and those who are helpful. They are not all the same so you are not going to see the same attitude from every member about every topic. So just because one person complains about something doesn't mean that is the view of the entire guild, after all they are all very independent people which is what makes their democratic guild so strong. Like everyone, mistakes have been made here and there but that's what makes everyone grow, you learn through making mistakes.

With that said, it is very disheartening to see so much hate here on the forums. Everyone has the right to post what they want here. When (we) were the first to achieve Deleath, of course we were excited and decided to boast about it, much like RK, or WTP would have if they had claimed it first. If you look around there are guilds everywhere that always brag about different things. The reason MoCs achievement got so much attention was because it was a LTQ that got thrown in our faces. Nobody was ready for it and many failed, but ultimately what the problem was, was that MoC won it first and the top guilds didn't earn it first due to matching times. I have no doubt that if FUN and RK had the same match times MoC had that war, they would have received it at the same time, if not sooner! So all in all that was just a sensitive subject for most guilds, especially the top 10 after all, a top 50 guild grabbed the grand prize first (pride problems). So we boasted and bragged, well, because we had the right too. Underdogs snagged the prize first and got the media attention, it happens, just let it live its life(which it has and should be dropped).

So please think twice about saying MoC is the top complainers in this forum. Just look around at all the people that are complaining that don't care to have their guild displayed in their signature. Just know that MoC has the courage and pride to wear their colors when posting on this forum. They are not afraid to show who they are affiliated with and are not afraid to voice their opinions either. MoC is basically a Forum United Nation, because they were built largely through the forum. Just take it easy, there are a lot of MoC here. You may not agree with everything they say, just like I may not agree with everything you(points to all forum members) say. Forums are built for discussion, so let people discuss what they want, be it the good, bad or in-between. Just try your best to "Keep it constructive".

Thank you.

[Euchred]

Come on. It's FDK not TDK

[Big-R]

Generally people on the forum congratulate others on a good achievement, and when it was reached MoC Recieved the same congrats. However it was the continuos bragging and back slapping that just got old really quick. It just seems that as a guild there's a whole "we are so much better than you" attitude. I know that's not going to be the case for all, but it's the case the more vocal members put across.
Some of you are good people who are helpful and informative, sadly it's always going to be the noisy, moany, complaining ones that are remembered. That's just human nature, if you don't want the bad press and negativity maybe as a team you should reel in the ones who bring that sort of attention.
Yes you disay your team as most of you are forum people. Some of us don't as we are the only forum member for our guild and it's a small guild.
I still think if you don't want the negativity maybe you should work on the teams portrayal. At the moment there is a lot of complaining, more than is really necessary. Complaints about every little thing. It's pointless.
Chirp chirp.

[Person]

Generally people on the forum congratulate others on a good achievement, and when it was reached MoC Recieved the same congrats. However it was the continuos bragging and back slapping that just got old really quick. It just seems that as a guild there's a whole "we are so much better than you" attitude. I know that's not going to be the case for all, but it's the case the more vocal members put across.
Some of you are good people who are helpful and informative, sadly it's always going to be the noisy, moany, complaining ones that are remembered. That's just human nature, if you don't want the bad press and negativity maybe as a team you should reel in the ones who bring that sort of attention.
Yes you disay your team as most of you are forum people. Some of us don't as we are the only forum member for our guild and it's a small guild.
I still think if you don't want the negativity maybe you should work on the teams portrayal. At the moment there is a lot of complaining, more than is really necessary. Complaints about every little thing. It's pointless.
Chirp chirp.

you really dont seem to get it. We bragged about ONE achievement and we complained several times, yes that is true. But we only complained because Gree is utterly incompetent as a company and cares little for their customers. They may say differently, but their actions speak louder than their words. If you're "annoyed" with people pointing out the flaws in the system, thats more your problem than ours. If people would stop pointing out flaws in things and trying to fix those flaws, nothing would ever change at all.

[Sparky14]

Dude!!! Get out of here!!! I am going to use every last gem I have on TAG if we get them again!!!! Tell your Guild you made it personal between MoC and TAG from now on because YOU can't learn when to shut YOUR freaking 13 year old mouth!!!!!!!! Pretty sure we already beat your twice, hope the next time you guys are at an end of a steak!!!! TAG leaders find me when you have removed this fool from your guild.....

As an officer in TAG, let me be the first to say, we do not condone Voxker's comments on the forums....EVER. He will be dealt with accordingly.

In the meantime, the rest of us are truly nice, rational people. I, for one, enjoy reading posts from the members of your guild. You seem like a tight knit group who likes to have fun. Sorry about your match ups this war. Hopefully today is a better day.

[l3lade2]

As an officer in TAG, let me be the first to say, we do not condone Voxker's comments on the forums....EVER. He will be dealt with accordingly.

In the meantime, the rest of us are truly nice, rational people. I, for one, enjoy reading posts from the members of your guild. You seem like a tight knit group who likes to have fun. Sorry about your match ups this war. Hopefully today is a better day.

Lol Jeff has had a bad couple of days :p

I like all the TAG guys I come across in my lists, especially any with low stats and juicy buildings (although this is rare!) lol

[KM KAge]

Dude!!! Get out of here!!! I am going to use every last gem I have on TAG if we get them again!!!! Tell your Guild you made it personal between MoC and TAG from now on because YOU can't learn when to shut YOUR freaking 13 year old mouth!!!!!!!! Pretty sure we already beat your twice, hope the next time you guys are at an end of a steak!!!! TAG leaders find me when you have removed this fool from your guild.....
Consider the source, and ignore it completely. If trolling is his main source of enjoyment, you can pity him but don't give any consideration to the trolling. He does not know any better.

[Big-R]

you really dont seem to get it. We bragged about ONE achievement and we complained several times, yes that is true. But we only complained because Gree is utterly incompetent as a company and cares little for their customers. They may say differently, but their actions speak louder than their words. If you're "annoyed" with people pointing out the flaws in the system, thats more your problem than ours. If people would stop pointing out flaws in things and trying to fix those flaws, nothing would ever change at all.

Actually I get it completely. It doesn't change the fact you've rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I actually know some of your members well, and there great guys. Very knowledgable, probably the most in the games with what one of them has worked out, has a great knowledge of game mechanics most find very hard to comprehend. Complaining continuously on the forum does not change anything. Do it through support as it should be done.

[E-I]

Sorry some of you guys are having such a hard run. :(

I can tell you that the top 5/6 guilds are working very hard NOT to meet each other. Everyone has eyes on the 56 and 50 win units, and they don't want to risk matching another top guild to break their streaks. This is unfortunately a direct result.

[clevoh]

Voxker is a nuisance on here as he is to our guild. We told him to stop being an ass in the forums but he obviously doesn't know how to do that. The best solution to dealing with him is ignoring him or asking about his job in a jack shack (he's a masseuse). I think he's bored when he COMES home from his job and looks to start trouble.

If anyone has an opening in their guild for him, I'll leave my buildings uncollected for a month.

[KM KAge]

Voxker is a nuisance on here as he is to our guild. We told him to stop being an ass in the forums but he obviously doesn't know how to do that. The best solution to dealing with him is ignoring him or asking about his job in a jack shack (he's a masseuse). I think he's bored when he COMES home from his job and looks to start trouble.

If anyone has an opening in their guild for him, I'll leave my buildings uncollected for a month.
There is no rule that you have to release him to another guild. He can be released to fend for himself.

[willb125]

Seems clear to me that Gree's matching system is DESIGNED to break win streaks as well. A Top 75 guild with 35 members, more than half under level 100 with an average A/D under 2 mil has won 5 in a row for a 7 streak. Next match is We the People. The little guild gems like crazy for the win. Next up? FUN. Gotta be sh!tting me.

It's not just bad luck. It's by design. FU Gree.

[Person]

Actually I get it completely. It doesn't change the fact you've rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way. I actually know some of your members well, and there great guys. Very knowledgable, probably the most in the games with what one of them has worked out, has a great knowledge of game mechanics most find very hard to comprehend. Complaining continuously on the forum does not change anything. Do it through support as it should be done.

complaining about game mechanics through support has 0.0 use. Heck half the real problems and bugs get automatically generated responses and arent dealt with. complaining continuously on the forum also makes others aware of the issues, and its a way to rally support for the change you'd want to make.

if you dont like it fine, but then just ignore it instead of complaining on the forum about the people complaining on the forum.

[Zenobia]

I see more trolls complaining about MoC memebrs complaining than i see MoC members complaining here.

Not a complaint ;) an observation.

[Big-R]

Just because you bore most of us to tears doesn't make us trolls.

[Person]

Just because you bore most of us to tears doesn't make us trolls.

this post makes me sad i have to share my continent with you.

if stuff "bores me to tears" i generally keep away from it. You must be one of the people who post "this isnt music" on youtube videos of genres you dont like.

[Big-R]

I don't watch youtube music videos.
Don't be sad, I'm sure you'd love me in person.