way to decrease negativity and hateful comments towards Gree

[Voxker]

I looked up and saw the Blog, but it was pretty empty and hasnt been updated in a while, not to mention nothing really about Kingdom Age.

Would be nice if Gree could post any information, new mechanics, something like little teasers of any upcoming events this way we know what to expect and the community doesnt need to go on a rampage. im sure this has been suggested many times in the past but it needs to be enforced now and im pretty sure it'll reduce the amount of bad criticism that i see pretty often

[E-I]

It is pretty sad that we all love this game and yet we are all perpetually disappointed in Gree. That says a lot. There is a reason why all of the threads you see are negative.

[Voxker]

It is pretty sad that we all love this game and yet we are all perpetually disappointed in Gree. That says a lot. There is a reason why all of the threads you see are negative.

and thats because people are angry for every little mistake that Gree does... yes it is sad.

[King Ben]

Every little mistake? That's like belittling the impact of Gree's mistake. Through the Sh@dow unit we can see folks whom give credit when due. This suggestion is good and will be helpful but limited in impact until Gree can address every little mistake they made.

With folks getting more anxious over (a) widening divide btw top and average / moderate gem users and (b) increase in demand to cope with events so as to keep up "a little bit", we need to find ways to deal with this anxiety else the negativity will just snowball.

[Voxker]

Every little mistake? That's like belittling the impact of Gree's mistake. Through the Sh@dow unit we can see folks whom give credit when due. This suggestion is good and will be helpful but limited in impact until Gree can address every little mistake they made.

With folks getting more anxious over (a) widening divide btw top and average / moderate gem users and (b) increase in demand to cope with events so as to keep up "a little bit", we need to find ways to deal with this anxiety else the negativity will just snowball.

yes anyone will jump on something bad that Gree did, even a typo.

[King Ben]

Anyone, yes. Everyone, no.

[Alucard47]

Some ppl may complain about every mistake, but most only get irate by the big ones. Like having the game go down for maintenance when wars began, unit prizes not being received, etc.

With last quest some were complaining about no bonus with the main prize, I didn't see why. It showed the prize and people could choose if they wanted to go for it. But with the recent quests over last month, they have required so much time and energy that people would have to spend several thousand dollars to get the units. I'm not asking for the quests to be easy or simple for everyone, but if Gree makes it near impossible for everyone, that's who they will lose--everyone!! If you say that you wouldn't care and would keep playing, then you're lying to yourself or you are a terrible player

[Voxker]

Some ppl may complain about every mistake, but most only get irate by the big ones. Like having the game go down for maintenance when wars began, unit prizes not being received, etc.

With last quest some were complaining about no bonus with the main prize, I didn't see why. It showed the prize and people could choose if they wanted to go for it. But with the recent quests over last month, they have required so much time and energy that people would have to spend several thousand dollars to get the units. I'm not asking for the quests to be easy or simple for everyone, but if Gree makes it near impossible for everyone, that's who they will lose--everyone!! If you say that you wouldn't care and would keep playing, then you're lying to yourself or you are a terrible player

im well off, i said nothing about quitting... dont make stuff up

[Rastlin]

im well off, i said nothing about quitting... dont make stuff up
He never said you were quitting.... Read it again... He said you are lying to yourself, or you are a terrible player. Nothing about you quitting...

[Voxker]

He never said you were quitting.... Read it again... He said you are lying to yourself, or you are a terrible player. Nothing about you quitting...

oh.. must of read it wrong... still annoying to see this much hate over anything

[Voxker]

Some ppl may complain about every mistake, but most only get irate by the big ones. Like having the game go down for maintenance when wars began, unit prizes not being received, etc.

With last quest some were complaining about no bonus with the main prize, I didn't see why. It showed the prize and people could choose if they wanted to go for it. But with the recent quests over last month, they have required so much time and energy that people would have to spend several thousand dollars to get the units. I'm not asking for the quests to be easy or simple for everyone, but if Gree makes it near impossible for everyone, that's who they will lose--everyone!! If you say that you wouldn't care and would keep playing, then you're lying to yourself or you are a terrible player

ill try this again, i misread the first time, i want people to tone down on the hate or at least have more constructive criticism instead of saying Gree sucks for doing this and that, i agree that the LTQs are more energy hungry and what not but i dont want this game to die because of overload of hate towards the company i hope this makes more sense lol

[Skyraiders]

ill try this again, i misread the first time, i want people to tone down on the hate or at least have more constructive criticism instead of saying Gree sucks for doing this and that, i agree that the LTQs are more energy hungry and what not but i dont want this game to die because of overload of hate towards the company i hope this makes more sense lol

Honestly have you been playing the same game as we have.....there has been a mistake in every event for the last two months ....people are upset that they keep happening.......they are spending money on a product that has flaws in it every time you log in.....yes it is the choice of the individual to spend or not....if you at your job kept making mistakes eventually what will happen...will you even still have a job??
I mean test the events before rolling them out.....double check your own work.....add bonuses....taking them away....some people getting units they are supposed to...some people not....LTQ is buggy...GLTQ is buggy....war events have been buggy...box events have been buggy.....
Honestly...have you seen this ???

[Voxker]

Honestly have you been playing the same game as we have.....there has been a mistake in every event for the last two months ....people are upset that they keep happening.......they are spending money on a product that has flaws in it every time you log in.....yes it is the choice of the individual to spend or not....if you at your job kept making mistakes eventually what will happen...will you even still have a job??
I mean test the events before rolling them out.....double check your own work.....add bonuses....taking them away....some people getting units they are supposed to...some people not....LTQ is buggy...GLTQ is buggy....war events have been buggy...box events have been buggy.....
Honestly...have you seen this ???

ive seen every bit of it i agree that the LTQs lately has been lacking proper maintenance, i even got randomly a delta bodyguard (from the first 45 wins GLTQ in wars even though the guild that i was in back then didnt come near that 45 win) in my new guild, its weird but Gree must of done something or not patch it properly

[King Ben]

Whether the game will be shut has nothing to do with the hatred and negativity shown. The causal effect is wrong. Direction of flow should be
(1) Screw up or event design of concern to players
(2) Players made complaints
(3) Players see little change
(4) Players leave
(5) Game cease

See the root cause? It is fair and admirable for you to want everyone to be constructive. I do not agree though that (a) people, or large group of us, got agitated over small issues like misspelling, and (b) complaints are an excuse for the game to cease.



ill try this again, i misread the first time, i want people to tone down on the hate or at least have more constructive criticism instead of saying Gree sucks for doing this and that, i agree that the LTQs are more energy hungry and what not but i dont want this game to die because of overload of hate towards the company i hope this makes more sense lol

[Vendetta V]

ive seen every bit of it i agree that the LTQs lately has been lacking proper maintenance, i even got randomly a delta bodyguard (from the first 45 wins GLTQ in wars even though the guild that i was in back then didnt come near that 45 win) in my new guild, its weird but Gree must of done something or not patch it properly

Voxker,
I just wonder... Are you a free player or (light) gem player?
Which rank is your guild in and which rank was your previous guild in?
In how many guilds were you in?
Did you finish the latest individual quests?
Did your guild finish the last two months all guild quests/ events?

I would appreciate your reply, so I can follow your point of view..
Thanks.

[Voxker]

Voxker,
I just wonder... Are you a free player or (light) gem player?
Which rank is your guild in and which rank was your previous guild in?
In how many guilds were you in?
Did you finish the latest individual quests?
Did your guild finish the last two months all guild quests/ events?

I would appreciate your reply, so I can follow your point of view..
Thanks.
light gemmers

first guild that i was in we were in top 150 then slowly started to get in top 200+, then i switched to a stronger guild in the top 25.

i was in 2 guilds since the release of them.


i dont usually finish the ILTQ since of my budget isnt that high, but i did finish the one for forged northern spear and bane of da'ran or whatever its called just for the weapon. otherwise i go all free and usually finish 50-75% of the prestige level without gems. my guild is good at finishing GLTQs.

i hope this satisfies your questions

[almarro1]

light gemmers

first guild that i was in we were in top 150 then slowly started to get in top 200+, then i switched to a stronger guild in the top 25.

i was in 2 guilds since the release of them.


i dont usually finish the ILTQ since of my budget isnt that high, but i did finish the one for forged northern spear and bane of da'ran or whatever its called just for the weapon. otherwise i go all free and usually finish 50-75% of the prestige level without gems. my guild is good at finishing GLTQs.

i hope this satisfies your questions
And how did your guild during Raid bosses? Did it got to the final 3 levels in heroic/prestige?

[Voxker]

And how did your guild during Raid bosses? Did it got to the final 3 levels in heroic/prestige?

first raid boss was easy, 2nd one we were at like 27/33 in prestige, 3rd one we completed

[almarro1]

first raid boss was easy, 2nd one we were at like 27/33 in prestige, 3rd one we completed
So you know how many gems it costs that single event. Do this exercise:
- Extrapolate how many gems LTQ/GLTQ, Box event, Rair Boss, Epi Boss and war cost.
- Transform those gems back to $$.
- Assess if that money is worth spending for a game you will eventually get bored and abandon.
- Think of the things you can do in real life with that money.
- Re-read all these 'I hate you Gree' threads you don't understand.

[Voxker]

So you know how many gems it costs that single event. Do this exercise:
- Extrapolate how many gems LTQ/GLTQ, Box event, Rair Boss, Epi Boss and war cost.
- Transform those gems back to $$.
- Assess if that money is worth spending for a game you will eventually get bored and abandon.
- Think of the things you can do in real life with that money.
- Re-read all these 'I hate you Gree' threads you don't understand.

you can spend a minimal amount of gems for any events, just plan it out either for ILTQ's or with your whole guild... i know people can easily spend 30-40k gems on wars but everyone has to pull their own weight or get go on the chopping block

[Fredcole]

I looked up and saw the Blog, but it was pretty empty and hasnt been updated in a while, not to mention nothing really about Kingdom Age.

Would be nice if Gree could post any information, new mechanics, something like little teasers of any upcoming events this way we know what to expect and the community doesnt need to go on a rampage. im sure this has been suggested many times in the past but it needs to be enforced now and im pretty sure it'll reduce the amount of bad criticism that i see pretty often

Good idea!

..unfortunately Gree will never do this.

So my question to you is when they dont; will you complain about it?

[Voxker]

Good idea!

..unfortunately Gree will never do this.

So my question to you is when they dont; will you complain about it?

its a suggestion...

what are you trying to get out of this?

[Vendetta V]

light gemmers

first guild that i was in we were in top 150 then slowly started to get in top 200+, then i switched to a stronger guild in the top 25.

i was in 2 guilds since the release of them.


i dont usually finish the ILTQ since of my budget isnt that high, but i did finish the one for forged northern spear and bane of da'ran or whatever its called just for the weapon. otherwise i go all free and usually finish 50-75% of the prestige level without gems. my guild is good at finishing GLTQs.

i hope this satisfies your questions

Hello Voxker,
Yes thanks for your reply!
I do think that you can have an idea how many gems your guild team members must spend for all the rewards and to finish the GLTQs/events.
Following your reply, I think your war points are around the 60k.
Anyway, IMO minimal 1,5 ~ 2 mountains gems are required for the Top25 for most of your guild team mates and for the guild boss events another mountain is minimal required+ the other quests and events + the individual quests = minimal 5 ~ 6 mountains of gems...
As you admit that you're a light gem player who most individual quests not complete, I think that it's for sure a lot of RL money what goes every month into this game...
Be gratefull your Top25 guild keep you in their guild, as I think you profit more than enough from the gem players in your guild.
In the other thread players from FUN and some other high ranked guilds give their comments, I think they spend more than enough RL money to say how they feel about the fact the game cost every month more money for them.
I don't think very light gem players or free players, should support GREE too much, most of the very light gem players and free players are profiting in the guilds from the gem players! You know yourself that with your budget, a top75~150 guild would fit more, so that you would carry your own weight..

FYI, I'm a gem player, I finish all individual quests( when they are interesting enough), I carry a lot of free players in my guild, we finish 90% of the guild quests/events and I do know for sure how much RL money it all cost now a days!
We spent already so much money in this game that we try to give enough signals to save this game.
I checked Dragon Realms and I already saw that DR will cost a lot of RL money also.
I prefer KA, but the costs required to play this game should stay in a certain budget. We must all not forget, we are playing a free GAME, not a gambling event or a pay to play game.
If the set-up has changed, GREE should change the minimal age to play this game to 18+ ;)

I don't want to offend you, but you should stay realistic.
For me, if I must choose between becoming a free player or quit the game, than I quit! I don't like to profit from the gem players in a guild. Without finishing quests/events, stats will fall in a pit. Little fish between the many sharks...

My two cents...

[Voxker]

that through the portal event was pretty easy, even with no gems.. but yeah for the most part i try to do my own part unless something happens. The found in the guild that im in is fair to everyone and will give a chance if everyone does well.

[Sparky14]

Hello Voxker,
Yes thanks for your reply!
I do think that you can have an idea how many gems your guild team members must spend for all the rewards and to finish the GLTQs/events.
Following your reply, I think your war points are around the 60k.
Anyway, IMO minimal 1,5 ~ 2 mountains gems are required for the Top25 for most of your guild team mates and for the guild boss events another mountain is minimal required+ the other quests and events + the individual quests = minimal 5 ~ 6 mountains of gems...
As you admit that you're a light gem player who most individual quests not complete, I think that it's for sure a lot of RL money what goes every month into this game...
Be gratefull your Top25 guild keep you in their guild, as I think you profit more than enough from the gem players in your guild.

A LOT of gems are spent in our guild to support the non-gem spenders. And no, Voxker does not average 60k in wars. We say in our guild, if you don't spend gems, you must put in the time to get the minimums for each event. Some do that better than others.

[Voxker]

A LOT of gems are spent in our guild to support the non-gem spenders. And no, Voxker does not average 60k in wars. We say in our guild, if you don't spend gems, you must put in the time to get the minimums for each event. Some do that better than others.

55k with the 3 wars ive been with your guild

[NinjaHonu]

55k with the 3 wars ive been with your guild

55k average a war for top10/25 guild. DAMN where do I sign up? I'll average 60k :) hahaha jk.

[Sparky14]

55k with the 3 wars ive been with your guild

I didn't say if it was higher or lower. Why do you only have one boss kill today? Stop posting and get back to work :)

[NinjaHonu]

I didn't say if it was higher or lower. Why do you only have one boss kill today? Stop posting and get back to work :)

LMFAO! hahaha get off the forums are start killing bosses! hahaha this is awesome.

[Sparky14]

55k average a war for top10/25 guild. DAMN where do I sign up? I'll average 60k :) hahaha jk.

We are recruiting Ninja! Need to replace some people leaving/some people slacking. Our minimums will be increasing. PM me if you're serious :)

[Voxker]

I didn't say if it was higher or lower. Why do you only have one boss kill today? Stop posting and get back to work :)

:( lvl 30 is getting hard, plus i messed up my last kill

[Sparky14]

:( lvl 30 is getting hard, plus i messed up my last kill

Excuses will not be tolerated! Off with your head! I think another spot just opened up.... :D

[NinjaHonu]

Excuses will not be tolerated! Off with your head! I think another spot just opened up.... :D

this thread is making me LOL at work. This is some funny sht. hahaha.

[Sparky14]

this thread is making me LOL at work. This is some funny sht. hahaha.

I'm happy I can amuse you at work. Now if only someone would buy $20 worth of gems and get some boss kills today....

[Voxker]

I'm happy I can amuse you at work. Now if only someone would buy $20 worth of gems and get some boss kills today....

hahah xDDDDDDDDDDDDD yeah

[Sparky14]

hahah xDDDDDDDDDDDDD yeah

Our minimum is 9 kills today...Only 8 more to go for you :) Tick tock!

[Voxker]

Our minimum is 9 kills today...Only 6 more to go for you :) Tick tock!

fixed***************

[Sparky14]

fixed***************

Atta boy Voxker!

[Voxker]

Atta boy Voxker!

sorry, 5 left, i keep making mistakes on my info, sorry, i hope Jno one sees thIsM

[Sparky14]

sorry, 5 left, i keep making mistakes on my info, sorry, i hope Jno one sees thIsM

Jim sees all lol! Nice try though.

[Voxker]

Jim sees all lol! Nice try though.

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