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JDL
10-11-2013, 06:53 PM
Active player lvl 61 173/170 stats who is looking for an active guild who will be competitive for the bosses and streaks in wars. Highly active player who is only higher level due to helping with guild quests and beating medusa 50 times.

Rastlin
10-11-2013, 08:56 PM
I am not sure what 173/170 means. Is that 1,730,000/1,700,000 (pretty good Stats)? Or 173,000, 170,000 (very bad stats)? Competitive guilds have stats that average minimum 27k times level. So if you are level 61, you will need 1,525,000 in atk and def at a minimum. To give you an idea my Main (which I feel is weak currently) is over 31,000 times level in Atk, and 35,000 times level in Def. Also in our guild we have Mini's at level 22 that have 612,000 atk, and 605,000 def.

dadtech
10-11-2013, 10:13 PM
I am not sure what 173/170 means. Is that 1,730,000/1,700,000 (pretty good Stats)? Or 173,000, 170,000 (very bad stats)? Competitive guilds have stats that average minimum 27k times level. So if you are level 61, you will need 1,525,000 in atk and def at a minimum. To give you an idea my Main (which I feel is weak currently) is over 31,000 times level in Atk, and 35,000 times level in Def. Also in our guild we have Mini's at level 22 that have 612,000 atk, and 605,000 def.

Really? I don't know what game your playing but it sure as he'll isn't this one. Level 60's with near 2 million attack and defense? Not in this world but a nice try at gloating about your lower levels that were lucky enough to be carried by a higher ranking guild. You also failed to mention how much real money you would have to spend ($300-$500 a month which is on the low side for some) to be in a top ranking guild...and that's not top 10 either. Some of us don't care to blow hundreds of dollars on virtually nothing and don't have a problem with addiction or rely on a game to feel better about ourselves. Sorry but you pissed me off with that comment directed to someone who just wants to play the game.

In short, no that is incorrect. While stat inflation is up, it isn't quite 27x level...at least not yet. If your at the right ally count per level and your pvp wall is all green, then your doing ok. There's always going to be some dope who spends all his time and money getting his stats higher than the next guy. It's a game, have fun.

Rastlin
10-11-2013, 10:41 PM
I don't know what game I am playing either....Gloating?? My stats are 1/2 of what our Guild's top players are... He said he wanted an, "active guild who will be competitive for the bosses and streaks in wars." He doesn't "just want to play the game". I was responding to what he said. But you sure seem to have some anger issues...and no clue what stats look like for Top75 and up... He didn't say he wanted to be in a Top500 guild that losses to guilds with only 2 people in them... You recruit for your Top500 guild, and talk about loyalty, etc.. but are also seen applying for a Top200 guild and being laughed at about your stats...then you go back to recruiting for your Top 500 guild... Really come on man... Let's really say why your are mad, because your stats stink... I was your level and your stats back in Feb as a free player, BEFORE stat inflation...

Krayt
10-12-2013, 06:57 AM
Settle down guys.
Top guilds will want pretty much what Rastlin said. My guild is in that top 100/150 area and before I would have said 10k times would have been alright but now that is looking kinda weak. If I see un boosted stats under 10k times I am not interested. If they are over level 120 I don't really want them unless they are 20k times.

As for gloating. In this new KA it's all about character development. I have managed to get my character recently reached level 48 and I am almost 1.5mil a/d. Characters now are about not levelling, so you do what you have. Top guilds minis are even better and I have run into some. There is a new KA out now, either adapt or be left behind.

[JAG] Ryan
10-12-2013, 03:26 PM
i would better listen to what Rastlin said :p:cool:;)

dadtech
10-12-2013, 06:26 PM
I don't know what game I am playing either....Gloating?? My stats are 1/2 of what our Guild's top players are... He said he wanted an, "active guild who will be competitive for the bosses and streaks in wars." He doesn't "just want to play the game". I was responding to what he said. But you sure seem to have some anger issues...and no clue what stats look like for Top75 and up... He didn't say he wanted to be in a Top500 guild that losses to guilds with only 2 people in them... You recruit for your Top500 guild, and talk about loyalty, etc.. but are also seen applying for a Top200 guild and being laughed at about your stats...then you go back to recruiting for your Top 500 guild... Really come on man... Let's really say why your are mad, because your stats stink... I was your level and your stats back in Feb as a free player, BEFORE stat inflation...

You must not know what game your talking about, the level 200 guild who dissed my stats was in Modern Warfare. Get your info straight. As far as applying to another guild in KA, I did temporarily. It was for a the first raid sltq which my current guild couldn't complete, as the case with most. I could have stayed, and yes my stats would be double or more what they are by now...but I cam back out of loyalty. That was, of course, before I became owner. ( I also play Crime City, where I am in a top 50 syndicate btw)

All 3 games (ka/mw/cc) are the same. You aren't actually achieving anything in real life and the only in game (virtual) achievements you aquire are in direct proportion to how much money you spend on the game. Your buying your stats basically, not earning them through any real competition. Unless, of course, you consider throwing more money at Gree than the next guy/guild (to beat them) competition.

Now if you say you don't pay real money, or not much, then your other guild members are carrying you.

Rasputin
10-13-2013, 04:29 PM
All 3 games (ka/mw/cc) are the same. You aren't actually achieving anything in real life and the only in game (virtual) achievements you aquire are in direct proportion to how much money you spend on the game. Your buying your stats basically, not earning them through any real competition. Unless, of course, you consider throwing more money at Gree than the next guy/guild (to beat them) competition.

Now if you say you don't pay real money, or not much, then your other guild members are carrying you.

That's a bit cynical. Rastlin is right. Stats are only "bought" in the top 10-15 guilds. There are lots of free players in the top 25, and it's possible to have a 52 or 54 member guild of nothing but free players (I haven't seen it, but it is possible) in the top 50. There are ultra active free players in my guild in the 80-90 level with stats approaching 3M. They score well north of 40,000 cp per war attacking players 2x their level. High stats are all about effort until you get into top 10-25. At that point, raid bosses and top war ranking become impossible without a ton of gems. Everything else is possible to achieve as a free player with enough activity. If you're too lazy, then yes, those stats are only possible with lots of gems. If you're also too cheap or can't afford the gem and also won't put in the effort to be a top free player, you will simply be an average or below average player. There's no shame in that. But this isn't Lake Wobegone - we're not all above average. If you find yourself in that situation, you have two choices: accept it, or quit.