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HGF69
10-02-2013, 12:34 AM
Personally I was expecting something a bit more challenging each day, but it seems that kills from day 1 count every day. I was expecting it to be only kills for that day or from the time the event started even making the 5th one a challenge. Pacing ourselves wasn't really worth it.

I know there are others who will say no its great but if everyone is getting these then nobody is gonna stand out from the crowd and BoS always push that little bit harder.

So honestly Gree, tell us if the event is meant to be like this or if there has been some sort of glitch with it during its first run?

Blodiea
10-02-2013, 12:46 AM
For a bigger faction it may be easy. If there was only 10 in your faction it would be a little more difficult

HGF69
10-02-2013, 12:52 AM
Well my LLP is in a small camper faction and its not caused them any difficulties either.

Gen CheeBye
10-02-2013, 01:05 AM
Hmmm, for those newer players that don't have health regen bonus units, would be harder don't you think? Anyways, I like little freebies every now and then. That's just me. :D

Blodiea
10-02-2013, 01:12 AM
I guess one of our factions is the anomaly. My faction has to scramble to make the requirement.

Wai
10-02-2013, 01:18 AM
While I don't know, I think the answer could be Yes.

The important part of this event is to achieve the number per day for the faction. That needs to be reasonably achievable. From that faction one or two or perhaps substantially more in many cases will forge ahead for the 100K+ unit. If the faction event is too restricted, then in turn it restricts the number of potential customer$ trying to reach 100 individual (being the main profit focus here).

Not all factions are full of gold burners. Some are small and might have one or two only or perhaps none but with one or two considering purchasing. No point missing potential customers through making the faction event out of their factions reach.

A common mistake is to over-invest in already highly loyal players while neglecting to reach new buyers already in the game.

Another mistake they have made over a long period in my view is pricing too high, then trying to compensate with regular discounts to increase sales and thereby teaching consumers to buy when discounted. The price should be well reduced to increase sales and profits. Increasing costs does not necessarily equate to increased profits. Regular as clockwork discounts is bad business. The 'sweet spot' needs to be found going forward. They are not there yet.

They shouldn't need discounts to encourage sales before a war. The war itself should encourage sales and increase profits. The price should not be 'front and centre' and overriding in the consumers mind for purchase consideration. Based on the behaviour of the discounts, it is too high as is the reload cost, while profit will suffer at all other times.

Romulus.
10-02-2013, 01:47 AM
Agree with you brother its not great that way. Doesnt mean anything if every faction member have same unit.

ffp
10-02-2013, 01:48 AM
Agree with what wai said.

I don't believe it is as easy as you think. You are in a top tier faction, with 50+ members, heaps of attack bonuses and maxed out health. You probably have personal health regen too and above average stats. My current boss has over 6m health but most people in my tier are about 250k attack. Do the maths and you will realise its very tough for small factions.

DFI
10-02-2013, 01:48 AM
Perhaps the faction LTQ had an error. But in some ways, it doesn't matter, bc many of us thought you needed to pace yourself, so now you only have a few days to get to 100. If we had known earlier that you didn't need to pace yourself, 100 could have come cheap with minimal gold use. In my case, I'm on boss 55, having done 40 over the past two days. W ll I finish 100? Unlikely, as I'd need to spend some serious gold and there is something called work and family. But some people will get to 75 or 80, and given that the bonus is attack, they just might be enticed to go for it.

Adm.J
10-02-2013, 03:10 AM
I look at it like this. They made it so that the larger, stronger factions will get the Goliaths easy enough (so there's no complaining about being screwed out of anything), but still struggle for the big prize, which is what they will really need to stay competitive. The smaller factions still have to struggle a bit for the Goliaths, but can get them, while they have very little chance at the bigger reward. Many will get the Goliaths, but some will not. A few will get the other one, but many will not.

Drakhoan
10-02-2013, 03:15 AM
Small factions and unproportional stats due to progressing too quickly or bad choices makes this event difficult for some. Campers, large factions, and spenders have a much easier time of it. Dont forget that players not in a faction wont have the units nor will those that are not addicts as us in the forums. So not everyone will have the same units. What would it matter if they meant for it to be easy or not?

I am a cow
10-02-2013, 04:04 AM
Shhhh! Free stat boosts!!

Who dares wins
10-02-2013, 04:58 AM
I have to agree there pissing out decent units for any noobs to get I Dnt wanna see lvl 6 noobs with 8k units that's stupid and opens the door to anyone starting new accs and just repping in units for nothing but Dnt worry I'm not wasting gold here anymore :)

Philly982
10-02-2013, 06:53 AM
I have seen many, many players that are in factions that still do not have a single Wraith Goliath. In fact the majority of players on my llp's rival list that have other faction LTQ rewards do not have a single one. So it must not be too easy for everyone.

Veccster
10-02-2013, 06:55 AM
What is the day 5 reward for this event?

Philly982
10-02-2013, 07:06 AM
What is the day 5 reward for this event?

I believe it is the same as the last 4 days. Wraith Goliath 8000/7000 +3% additional ground defense. Not sure if there is anything additional other than if you complete all 5 and 100 bosses individually.

CJ D
10-02-2013, 07:07 AM
What is the day 5 reward for this event?

Get this.....a 5th wraith Goliath!!!!

lemonhaze
10-02-2013, 07:10 AM
While I don't know, I think the answer could be Yes.

The important part of this event is to achieve the number per day for the faction. That needs to be reasonably achievable. From that faction one or two or perhaps substantially more in many cases will forge ahead for the 100K+ unit. If the faction event is too restricted, then in turn it restricts the number of potential customer$ trying to reach 100 individual (being the main profit focus here).

Not all factions are full of gold burners. Some are small and might have one or two only or perhaps none but with one or two considering purchasing. No point missing potential customers through making the faction event out of their factions reach.

A common mistake is to over-invest in already highly loyal players while neglecting to reach new buyers already in the game.

Another mistake they have made over a long period in my view is pricing too high, then trying to compensate with regular discounts to increase sales and thereby teaching consumers to buy when discounted. The price should be well reduced to increase sales and profits. Increasing costs does not necessarily equate to increased profits. Regular as clockwork discounts is bad business. The 'sweet spot' needs to be found going forward. They are not there yet.

They shouldn't need discounts to encourage sales before a war. The war itself should encourage sales and increase profits. The price should not be 'front and centre' and overriding in the consumers mind for purchase consideration. Based on the behaviour of the discounts, it is too high as is the reload cost, while profit will suffer at all other times. the 20% discount is not really a discount if u are buying the gold to use for medpacks..bc the medpack is 25 gold instead of the reqular 20 as im sure u all knew that

Thief
10-02-2013, 07:40 AM
I will tell you with near certainty that it was a mistake. Not because it makes it easy or hard but because of the way its structured (where all of your previous kills count towards the faction goals.....regardless of the faction your at the time you sign in) Also based on how it was worded on the splash screen.

In my opinion it needs to be structured in a way where its not done per day but rather just goals like any other LTQ.

If they stick with the goals like it was in CC (which functioned how we all thought it was) then first they need to reverse the order Day 1=500 kills, Day 2=450 kills etc. because as it stands its going to be much too restrictive for anyone with a faction smaller than 50+ members.

Kefa
10-02-2013, 07:47 AM
Meanwhile, another thread in response to the same event posits that small factions may be doomed...

And I disagreed with that position, too.

Veccster
10-02-2013, 07:51 AM
I believe it is the same as the last 4 days. Wraith Goliath 8000/7000 +3% additional ground defense. Not sure if there is anything additional other than if you complete all 5 and 100 bosses individually.

Why is the loot tracker thread reporting this:


Final Prize is a "Wraith Battle Jet" 118000/82000 +5% Alliance Attack

Roc1720
10-02-2013, 08:13 AM
I believe you have to beat the boss 100 times and be in a faction that completes all 5 missions to win that unit.

Thief
10-02-2013, 08:15 AM
Why is the loot tracker thread reporting this:

That is if you complete 100 bosses AND complete all 5 days of the Faction Bosses.

The exact Quote Says:

"We have 100 bosses to defeat & Help your faction defeat 300 5X
Final Prize is a "Wraith Battle Jet" 118000/82000 +5% Alliance Attack"

Veccster
10-02-2013, 08:33 AM
I see...thank you for the clarification.

Generik79
10-02-2013, 10:53 AM
Threads like this get stuff nerfed, which works for me as we will achieve the goal however GREE tosses it at us. But for the vast majority of factions, I doubt you should be thrilled to see someone make this post.

Web323
10-02-2013, 10:56 AM
Threads like this get stuff nerfed, which works for me as we will achieve the goal however GREE tosses it at us. But for the vast majority of factions, I doubt you should be thrilled to see someone make this post.

You are correct

Bndawgs
10-02-2013, 12:28 PM
Are people really complaining that they are getting 5 8k att units that stack (if you're on ios) for no gold?

Web323
10-02-2013, 01:09 PM
Are people really complaining that they are getting 5 8k att units that stack (if you're on ios) for no gold?

I would only complain about the units that I currently have that do not stack.

ryguy8899
10-02-2013, 01:11 PM
it is easy

...BORIS
10-02-2013, 01:32 PM
This event may have happened with errors, but in my faction we couldn't reach 300 in the first 24 hours, so we asked for help. We got it. We've been supported by Death Unlimited, General Pain and by the Zombie faction. This has opened up our horizons hugely. This will prove to be a game changer for many players. This will earn a little more for Gree and will change the game, which keeps players playing. This is the key thing - change. Though this may not have changed things for top players, the change in lower factions may prove profound.

Powerbang
10-02-2013, 02:37 PM
I am confused by this mission. It literally took less than 3 minutes to finish each day... really? A 24-hr mission goal?

I would hope in the future that It would be harder to put on 100k+ defense in 5 days... I dont even feel like we accomplished anything.

Strange.