Guild Armor Bank

[Pwept]

Who thinks this should be implemented? And I want your opnions on how it will/should work. No sarcasm if you please.

[Oryihn]

Here is the way I think it should work.

Guild members have excess armor and they can donate it to the guild bank.. GM/Sentinel/Champion can then grant this armor to members that need it.

Sadly this will never be implemented because it would cut into the profit of the GREEdy overlords who need our money to keep from going bankrupt

[Sarn]

Would love to see a guild bank and like orihyn's suggestion on how to implement it.

[busteroaf]

Would love to see a guild bank and like orihyn's suggestion on how to implement it.

So, you combine all the good armors of a guild and dole them out as needed from Rank positions. I can go join a guild, or be in a guild, request an armor. Someone says "sure, donate 10mil first." I donate. Take my armor and leave. You've just invented a way to sell armors for guild donations, or free trading between people. Yes, there is still no "currency" trading hands but you get the idea.

Not going to happen.

[Pwept]

So I guess this is hoping against hope. Its still a way to level the playing field.

[busteroaf]

Its not hoping against hope, but any sort of "bank" or trading system opens up a Pandora's box in games like this. Unless there are time requirements of "must be in guild for 2 weeks" etc, what would prevent what I said earlier from happening?

Sadly, the more restrictions they have, the less likely you'll have people abusing it. But at the same time, it makes it ridiculously hard to let people you actually could benefit from an occasional swap of armors. And of course, the term "benefit" has various meanings.

Imagine how you could invite an alt to a guild, trade them a high level unused armor, and bam, instant high powered low level player. Or, for people who got 3 Beastmaster Epic... why not just share the wealth with other players? Sure, its perfect if you have someone with another duplicate Epic and trade it away, but... that isn't how Gree wants to do things. As it is now, you get what you get, I get what I get, and they don't want us to share.

[Sarn]

Admittedly I didn't really think much about the potential shortfalls. I used to play WOW and loved the guild bank. It would be nice if I could help out my fellow guildies where possible.

[Oryihn]

Buster is 100% correct. That is why I said Gree would never do it. It just opens up too much of a player based economy.

That could be a good thing really, but it also could be terrible.

[Eunuchorn]

Easy, make it cost participation stars to donate into guild bank, & MVP stars to pull them out. Could do mats too.

[busteroaf]

Easy, make it cost participation stars to donate into guild bank, & MVP stars to pull them out. Could do mats too.

Oh snap. Finally a use for MVP stars/participation medals. I could get behind that idea.

Now if only the rankings and how they gave out said MVP's was accurate. How did that last Fusion Challenge work out for ya Eun?

[Sarn]

Easy, make it cost participation stars to donate into guild bank, & MVP stars to pull them out. Could do mats too.

Good idea!

[Pwept]

Finally a way to to use all these extra mats

[Ithiliond]

You can also force a player who received an armor from the bank to stay in that guild for a certain period (like a month), by simply removing the "leave guild" option once the transaction is done.
Moreover, you can set that depending on your rank and your MVP and donations, you can get a certain rarity of armor. For example, only an HC with at least 20 MVP (just saying) can get an epic from guild bank.

If that's not enough, one can simply add a "rent system" where higher level players in the guild can donate their unused armors (even capped ones) for rent, like other guild mates can use them only in a certain period (like guild wars).

[Pwept]

How about each armor donations has a point value and taking armor out costs points. These point values can be set by the guild master and members then can "pay" for anything in the bank.

[Flux]

How about each armor donations has a point value and taking armor out costs points. These point values can be set by the guild master and members then can "pay" for anything in the bank.

I don't like that idea. It's too easily abused.

I like Eunuchorn's idea, because you have to earn the 'currency' to get the armors by being an active member in the guild. I'd also implement a maximum number of 'trades' per week as well. Perhaps no more than two 'purchases' per week, or even excluding Epic Armors from the bank.

Would be a nice way to help boost new members to your guild, without overpowering them.

[EljayK]

A guild bank or armory could be interesting, and the idea of using your stars and mvp badges could work. However, I think a better system for those badges and such would be trading them for fusion boost armors in a guild store. Not a permanent guild store, mind you. The store would show up immediately before a war, and be accessible for the 3/4 days before the war begins. That extra little help before hand. I would gladly trade 100 stars for 5 wind or spirit fusion armors right now.

[Meepo]

Would be extremely difficult to make it work. What if the guild leaders were able to allocate armors to members for guild wars, and those would be fixed for a single battle. The armors can be labelled as "guild bank armor" and only temporarily be in a person's inventory, being returned to the guild bank once the battle is over.

[Andromeda]

I think the armor would have to be tied to the guild for gree to allow it. Something like you would check it out and have it a couple hours then it returns to bank, like merlo said. Or you can keep it in but it defaults back to the guild if you leave the guild

[EljayK]

Just thought of this. What if for a guild war epic it's tied to the guild. In the "Guild's Armory."

The guild has to level it up using donated materials/armors that are lost forever. If you're in the guild, you can equip it. Everyone can. The whole guild has a level 99 Epic+ for winning the GW. Good job! Oh you left the guild/didn't participate/got kicked out? Good-bye to your epic!

[Pwept]

Tieing the gw epic to the guild would not work. Example, you give it your all in a war and place top 10. Then get kicked so the guild masters buddy can get in a have a nice shiney epic. That would definitely not work.

[EljayK]

Tieing the gw epic to the guild would not work. Example, you give it your all in a war and place top 10. Then get kicked so the guild masters buddy can get in a have a nice shiney epic. That would definitely not work.

If you are in a guild that got an epic, that most likely wouldn't happen. Those guilds don't let new buddies in just because. Besides, if you're the one that got ousted, you were lowest man on the totem pole anyway. Get better and earn your epic spot

[Eunuchorn]

Just thought of this. What if for a guild war epic it's tied to the guild. In the "Guild's Armory."

The guild has to level it up using donated materials/armors that are lost forever. If you're in the guild, you can equip it. Everyone can. The whole guild has a level 99 Epic+ for winning the GW. Good job! Oh you left the guild/didn't participate/got kicked out? Good-bye to your epic!

The best part of having a War+ is when you're no longer in the Rainbow Room.
...sort of. Our new rotation system will be great, though. RR will have 3-5 permanently rotating spots to spread the wealth of War+ epixx. Fear the Rainbow.

[Synovia]

So, you combine all the good armors of a guild and dole them out as needed from Rank positions. I can go join a guild, or be in a guild, request an armor. Someone says "sure, donate 10mil first." I donate. Take my armor and leave. You've just invented a way to sell armors for guild donations, or free trading between people. Yes, there is still no "currency" trading hands but you get the idea.

Not going to happen.

That would be ridiculously easy to prevent. Simply just make it so that you're borrowing the armor from the person, and it still takes up an inventory slot for them. You leave, it goes back.


It doesn't deal with the biggest issue though: it creates stagnation in the game. It keeps the guilds in the best positions in those positions, and makes the guild wars a waste of time for everyone else (which means nobody outside the top 10 spends gems).

[Vergil]

Would be nice but quite risky too, these things tend to be as such. Certain security steps would need to be taken to prevent members joining and simply stealing gold etc and running.

[dragonx254]

It would be a nice idea.

I have quite a few legendaries that could help out other members in the guild I'm in, and have no real use for them

[MrRiver]

Would be nice but quite risky too, these things tend to be as such. Certain security steps would need to be taken to prevent members joining and simply stealing gold etc and running.

Certainly. That's why a minimum time requirement or approval from a guild leader would likely be inevitable. I know for our guild it would be very useful to have a trading system. We have members who have three blazeborne's and nothing to do with all of them, where as others of us have multiple tectonics and would love to do a trade for a blazeborne.

That being said when it comes down to it, a trading system period would be awesome - but the can of worms it would open up is probably unwanted.

[Pwept]

The benefits far outweigh the drawback. For example, I have four epics and would like to trade two of them to a tec. But untill they give us a way to do that im stuck with them. I would happyly give them to the guid, but again its not happening.

[Sparkle_DPA]

Forget the bank. When the hell is gree gonna add guild name changes.... Make it cost gems or something and can only be done once a month, whatever makes you happy. JUST ADD IT >:O

[Pwept]

The armor bank is much more important than just pure vanity. So stay on topic.

[deathexe]

The problem about this is that it would create an unbalance, and more often than not, spoil the game.

There would be people giving away armors for guild donations, or loaning them out, depending on what your idea is.

There would also be mid level players who breeze through the game no problem because they have a guild willing to give them armors for free.

Furthermore, top guilds would just get even more overpowered with all the epics being circulated. I wouldn't be suprised if most top guilds end up having every epic armor from the chance chest.

[Pwept]

My idea was to implement it to give ppl who work, but still seem to get no where.

Make it cost gems to remove armors. That way gree still gets income. Without something to spread out armors the game will stagnate. With the strongest getting stronger and nonway to balance the game.

[deathexe]

My idea was to implement it to give ppl who work, but still seem to get no where.

Make it cost gems to remove armors. That way gree still gets income. Without something to spread out armors the game will stagnate. With the strongest getting stronger and nonway to balance the game.

If it costs gems it'll basically alienate the free players from the guild bank. Unless it costs a very small amount, but would result in the gem cost not meaning much anyways.

The closest I could see this suggestion working out would be if the shields you get for accomplishing guild quests were utilized (eunuchorn's suggestion). Though this could be worked around by making a new guild and finishing the guild quests easily.

[EljayK]

Though this could be worked around by making a new guild and finishing the guild quests easily.

Shields disappear when you change guilds. I had a whole lot of MVP and Shields from starting my own guild. Joined the one I'm in now; all gone. Tough to get in an established guild.

[Marco_]

Shields disappear when you change guilds. I had a whole lot of MVP and Shields from starting my own guild. Joined the one I'm in now; all gone. Tough to get in an established guild.
Well, they don't disappear, but you're only shown the MVPs/shields from that particular guild. If you later return to the other guild, it will show the MVPs/shield from that guild. In other words: they stay with the guild.
(which kind of fits in with the guild armor bank idea...)

[madfighters]

But it would be bias because wouldnt most guild masters be tempted to take all good armors

[bosskiller]

I love the idea, especially the part about using MVPs to take them out. But i agree with all the others in saying Gree would never implement it.

[Zyntree]

This is without a doubt an interesting idea, but tricky to impliment. I'm almost certain GREE will not allow giving armors away (getting armors is the main money maker for them - they won't start giving them away for free), but Enucorn's idea has real merit. I would like to be able to do something with my guild stars.

If armor could be rented from a guild bank for stars, this would eliminate people just joining a guild for the armor (top level guilds are going to be a tough nut to crack in terms of getting many stars / mvps and new guilds where you can rack these up will not have the good armors for you to be renting anyway.

With armors being rented instead of owned, this might not OP new players and old guilds too much, depending on how long an armor is rented for and how much it costs. Guild armory - cool idea :)

[Pwept]

Gree should implement this immediately. Keep this thread going and never let it die.

[Synovia]

Guild stars/MVPs just seem silly.

In any of the better guilds, if someone has a couple MVPs, there's not going to be any armor in the bank that's better than what they have.

[bosskiller]

Guild stars/MVPs just seem silly.

In any of the better guilds, if someone has a couple MVPs, there's not going to be any armor in the bank that's better than what they have.

Well what do you think is better?

[Synovia]

Well what do you think is better?

Guild donations maybe? Maybe the participation shields? Definitely not MVPs though.

Honestly, I think donating gold to the guild should get you guild bank credits. That seems to be the best way to make it about helping the guild.

[Zyntree]

Honestly, I think donating gold to the guild should get you guild bank credits. That seems to be the best way to make it about helping the guild.

I think this is also a good option. A certain number of armory (bank) credits would let you rent a guild armor for a certain amount of time. maybe every 100k could be 1 armory credit, and you could rent armor for a cost of 1 credit and hour or something. That would certainly make it easier and be a reasonable thing for GREE to implement. (I'd hate to lose my MVPs if I had to use them...)

[busteroaf]

Guild donations maybe? Maybe the participation shields? Definitely not MVPs though.

Honestly, I think donating gold to the guild should get you guild bank credits. That seems to be the best way to make it about helping the guild.

Again, what is to stop a guild from selling armors for high $ donations?

They would HAVE to implement some sort of "if you leave the guild, you lose the armor" requirement... otherwise, you're just selling armor to increase bonuses/buy guardians. There would need to be something other than donations to prevent this. Or even your option of you "loan" it to the bank but still takes up a spot... I think there would be way too much coding, making things essentially "soulbound" and then add in the "bind to guild" function, to use WoW terms.

I feel like you'd see the "donate it and its gone" option before you start seeing loaned out slots and bound to guild type options. Just my feeling.

[Kazuki Takemura]

Instead of putting in an armor bank which is kind of unlikely for GREE to implement, what about making a system to donate armor materials. That would benefit the newer guild members quite a bit without causing a lot of the problems 'renting' or borrowing full armors creates. Members could get the mats to help them make the bigger four or boss+ armors with out the agony of farming for days on end and the higher level players would have something to do with the huge stockpiles of infernal chunks, wriggling roots, etc.

Materials could be bought with gold which goes directly into the guild bank which would benefit the guild also.

[Eunuchorn]

I'm more & more a fan of this idea. I've used far too many epics & bkals as enhancement fodder. I've maxed out 2 WW+, and more than a few ****+ & then used as an enhancer 1-3 weeks later. Too much of a monetary investment to be considered trash.