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The Pale Rider
09-30-2013, 03:00 PM
The fusion results thread is posting that some players fused epics after the upgrade today. The news is being buried in the bad chest results postings. I want (ok need) confirmation of whether epics can be fused and which ones.

Can y'all tear yourselves away from the beast chest and try some fusions and post the results here or there? I'll be doing the same later tonight.

ZERO_07
09-30-2013, 03:02 PM
The ONLY Epic being confirmed is Moontide. No word on the rest, as far as we know Moontide may be the only fuseable one at the moment.

ZERO_07
09-30-2013, 03:32 PM
Have fun guys


Ok so this is the list of CONFIRMED Fusion Results:

Admiral's Battleworn Regalia
Armor of the Infernal Lord
Barbarian Raiding Gear
Battlesuit Remnants
Blackfrost Raiment
Boilerplate Armor
Bone Harvester's Garb
Chitinous Armor
Clayplate Mantle
Cloud King's Finery
Combustion Armor
Deep Dragon Mail
Eldritch Keeper's Robes
Ethereal Garment
Flamehunter's Garb
Flame Summoner's Shroud
Guardian's Battlegear
Half-Dragon Warrior's Armor
Horrible Wurm Costume
Hunter's Garb
Hydromancer's Mantle
Jackalope's Chaingarb
Mantle of the Beast
Moontide Platemail
Mountainvine Shroud
Pyromancer's Mantle
Rocfeather Robes
Ruby Plate Mail
Sky Guardian
Spectral Captain's Uniform
StarSong Shroud
Steam Wizard's Robes
Storm Sorcerer
Swamp Shaman
Tempered Battlegear
Tortoiseshell Aegis
Wanderer's Shroud

And the following are still unconfirmed possibilities:

Jian's Battlegear

Aegis of the Dragon
Black Kaleidoscopic Raiment
Dark Prince's Royal Armor
Dragon Tamer's Costume
Starmetal Kaleidoscopic Raiment
Steam Powered Exo Skeleton
Wicked Wraith

Armor of Eurus
Armor of Boreas
Armor of Notus
Armor of Phyrus
Slimebane Battlegear
Assassin's Shroud
Aegis of the Fallen
Leviathan's Platemail

Blazeborn Vanguard
Maelstrom Irons
Tectonic Mantle

Fibonacci
09-30-2013, 06:19 PM
I'm interested if someone can let me know how top do it and with what. (I'm tired of being a level 90+ with just legend armor) so this will be to get epic, and if i don't, then I'm done.
This is my list of 4 stars
Notus
Slime
Aegis of fallen
Cloud king
Levitan
Feather blade
Scorstone
Soulshard

Fibonacci
09-30-2013, 06:45 PM
I did soul and Levitan. Got hydromancer mantle

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09-30-2013, 07:26 PM
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geo81
09-30-2013, 07:53 PM
I did eatheral and lavithan...I got a black frost, oh well

The Pale Rider
10-01-2013, 10:24 AM
I did soul and Levitan. Got hydromancer mantle

I did eatheral and lavithan...I got a black frost, oh well

That's two sprit/water mono fuses with junk results. I suppose the universe is pretty big of fusable legendaries (assuming you cant get what you're using for fusing and otherwise even odds, it's at worst 1 in 9 and at best 1 in 7 - best odds using two of the below monos):
Moontide
Spectral Captains
Blackfrost
Starsong Shroud
Chitinous
Hydromancers
Bone Harvester
Eldritch keeper
Etherial Garment

(Note: assumes Leviathan, Euros and Soulshard are not possible results)

Eunuchorn
10-01-2013, 10:45 AM
Not only is epic fusing back, but now + armors are fusable if you use two maxed nonplus of the same armor

EljayK
10-01-2013, 10:46 AM
Not only is epic fusing back, but now + armors are fusable if you use two maxed nonplus of the same armor

I'll ask this once without any disrespect.

Are you trolling, or did you witness it?

The Pale Rider
10-01-2013, 10:48 AM
Not only is epic fusing back, but now + armors are fusable if you use two maxed nonplus of the same armor
I went to this thread specifically to avoid the troll fest and innane arguing going on in the main fusion results thread. Please don't bring it here before I get an answer on whether moontide (or any other epic) is now fuseable.

Lord Of The Infernal
10-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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busteroaf
10-01-2013, 11:25 AM
I went to this thread specifically to avoid the troll fest and innane arguing going on in the main fusion results thread. Please don't bring it here before I get an answer on whether moontide (or any other epic) is now fuseable.

Short answer: There is no concrete proof one way or the other.

TL : DR answer:
- There have been multiple people who claim to have gotten Moontide, but not enough to justify saying "for sure" since the old data is irrelevant according to some, and no other Epics have been reported to have been fused except for the Beast+ that some guy in a guild we don't know of supposedly said he got.
- Many have said "I think I used..." Again, leads to more uncertainty. If you are trying to fuse an Epic, you should be aware of what you are fusing so that you can limit your results to get more accurate data, as more and more people use the same armors, to compile better data. If you "think" you used one armor, but actually used another, you are doing the data collecting a disservice. Granted, not everyone reads pages upon pages of forum posts looking for what to fuse, but, a little time investment will go a long way. Other people also have claimed to have fused Epic's, but using element combos that would be invalid, or would not yield said Epic. (saying you fused fire and earth and got spirit...)
- People have screenshots, but again, those could be old.

No one can say with 100% certainty that Epic fusion is back, or isn't back.

Again, I would start to trust it once it comes from a reliable source (someone from Majestic/Cent/RR/Untouched, longtime forum member, etc) over random just started posters. Just my opinion. And like Levar Burton said... you don't have to take my word for it.

And considering people ask what seems like every hour on the hour, in new and old threads, about if epic fusion is back, you have to understand why it gets old giving the same response over and over.

Eunuchorn
10-01-2013, 11:32 AM
Here's your proof

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s657/TehEunuchorn/null_zps96210024.jpg

Lord Of The Infernal
10-01-2013, 11:35 AM
Here's your proof

^_^ Thank You may i know which armor u used?

Bluntman
10-01-2013, 11:38 AM
Here's your proof

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s657/TehEunuchorn/null_zps96210024.jpg
Eunuchorn says its true and has a screenshot i believe him lol

Eunuchorn
10-01-2013, 11:39 AM
You have to use 2 of the same armor. Not sure about level req min, that was 18 obviously

Lord Of The Infernal
10-01-2013, 11:43 AM
You have to use 2 of the same armor. Not sure about level req min, that was 18 obviously

Ok thank for giving information :)

Bumpain
10-01-2013, 11:48 AM
LOL! I like the new font

ZERO_07
10-01-2013, 12:03 PM
Another thread infected by Eunuchorn and his trolling

sk8kidamh
10-01-2013, 12:05 PM
You have to use 2 of the same armor. Not sure about level req min, that was 18 obviously

You're such a douche.

BobSaget1
10-01-2013, 12:09 PM
You have to use 2 of the same armor. Not sure about level req min, that was 18 obviously

People like this are toxic; horrible person. Why even say something like this on a Knights and Dragons forums.

drygores
10-01-2013, 12:11 PM
This forum is beginning to be just a troll fest. Cant go anywhere with out seeing immaturity scattered everywhere.

Deatux Daviant
10-01-2013, 12:13 PM
This forum is beginning to be just a troll fest. Cant go anywhere with out seeing immaturity scattered everywhere.

Lately that's just normal for allot of people

ZERO_07
10-01-2013, 12:23 PM
Stop feeding trolls and ignore them, they thrive off attention. If you reply to them you're just making things worse.

gatman003
10-01-2013, 12:53 PM
ya i had a few people fuse the water spirit epic but nothing else..kinda sad cuz its so weak

Hakurou
10-01-2013, 01:07 PM
Again, I would start to trust it once it comes from a reliable source (someone from Majestic/Cent/RR/Untouched, longtime forum member, etc) over random just started posters. Just my opinion. And like Levar Burton said... you don't have to take my word for it.

Let me know when you deem me trustworthy enough, until then ill keep Future combination Knowledge to myself. ;)...perhaps i should start by making a fancy signature. :d

blackheart5
10-01-2013, 01:37 PM
I fused moontide on sunday or monday don't recall I was curious when someone said they got it from dark prince and swamp shaman and did it

Wing
10-01-2013, 01:43 PM
My friend fused chitinous and pyromancer yesterday and got moontide

Unresolved
10-01-2013, 03:09 PM
My guildmate fused Moontide two days ago. The armors he used are irrelevant.

Jman
10-01-2013, 04:27 PM
You have to use 2 of the same armor. Not sure about level req min, that was 18 obviously

Two of the same armor? Really? You're an idiot. Matching elements cannot be used in fusion.

Tachycardia
10-01-2013, 04:35 PM
Two of the same armor? Really? You're an idiot. Matching elements cannot be used in fusion.

Says who?

Have you not done the new fusion quest yet?

busteroaf
10-01-2013, 04:54 PM
Let me know when you deem me trustworthy enough, until then ill keep Future combination Knowledge to myself. ;)...perhaps i should start by making a fancy signature. :d

Considering that you've been around since April, with 86 posts, you would be higher on the list than someone posting for the first time yesterday. That is my point.

Of course, since everyone and their brother is just spamming stupid things now, my original statement of reliable sources is made null and void.

Tachycardia
10-01-2013, 04:58 PM
I tried a few times and have not be able to fuse one and neither has anyone from my guild.

I'm baking some more mats to try again

Eunuchorn
10-01-2013, 04:59 PM
I suggest trying for tec. My guess is they're all back with lower chances & more output options, but back nonetheless

Tachycardia
10-01-2013, 05:05 PM
Considering that you've been around since April, with 86 posts, you would be higher on the list than someone posting for the first time yesterday. That is my point.

Of course, since everyone and their brother is just spamming stupid things now, my original statement of reliable sources is made null and void.

This forum needs a mod or 2 to actually keep the **** from getting out of hand, not just a random admin dropping in to sticky a thread or 2 once a week

Tachycardia
10-01-2013, 05:07 PM
I suggest trying for tec. My guess is they're all back with lower chances & more output options, but back nonetheless

I'm not as invested as some as I already have epics so I have just been fusing leftover 4 stars.

I've never really took fusing very seriously.

NickkyDC
10-01-2013, 05:08 PM
Ive never fused any epics, but My belief was that it was a temporary dismissal from the start, just based on how gree plays its cards. The same way free gems were temporarily taken away, and once these quests ended (i.e money was made) they brought it back, If its not back in full swing, my guess would be that after this beast chest is over, it will be. minor things like this, dont discourage most players, just causes already paying players to pay a little more. Now, my guess would be, as they have started to do, if epics are back, they are going to bring a lot more craftables to the table. good one for them would be wurm, and aegis of drag, to keep from easy tect, those two mixed with cloud king, can cause a rather long go around in trying to get an armor that probably only has a 1% chance of fusing.

busteroaf
10-01-2013, 05:14 PM
My guildmate fused Moontide two days ago. The armors he used are irrelevant.

Is this legit?

geo81
10-01-2013, 05:17 PM
I can promise you that fusing a moontide is possible. I just got it yeasterday and I didn't pay attention that well to the mono magic legendary I used (might have been harvester). Frankly, I didn't think that it would work.
When I first read that moontide was fusable again I fused lavithan and eatheral and got a black frost. Then I fused boiler plate (got from beast chest) and a mono legendary magic (I got a couple from beast chest, and I have a lot of mono legendarys from epic bosses I never fused for obvious reasons) and got moontide. 0 reasons to lie, it's a f***ing cell phone game. Bottom line: it works

Unresolved
10-01-2013, 05:18 PM
Is this legit?

Well, I could show you the screenshot, but it looks exactly the same as the screenshot I had 3 weeks ago when I fused my own Moontide. I only posted because you guys were arguing over credibility and I don't remember doing anything to hurt my own reputation around these forums.

Mr Spock
10-01-2013, 06:18 PM
I suggest trying for tec. My guess is they're all back with lower chances & more output options, but back nonetheless

I would agree with this..sure am seeing a lot of beast masters already...I wonder if these r being fused...

Synovia
10-01-2013, 08:21 PM
I would agree with this..sure am seeing a lot of beast masters already...I wonder if these r being fused...

They just gave out hundreds of thousands of free beast keys. Of course you're seeing a lot of them.

Synovia
10-01-2013, 08:23 PM
Considering that you've been around since April, with 86 posts, you would be higher on the list than someone posting for the first time yesterday. That is my point.

So rather than considering the merits of people's arguments, you judge them by post count?

I think that says a lot about you.

deathexe
10-01-2013, 08:27 PM
So rather than considering the merits of people's arguments, you judge them by post count?

I think that says a lot about you.

You really should read in context. Buster was referring to people posting about fusing results, not about game discussion.

knights
10-01-2013, 08:39 PM
They just gave out hundreds of thousands of free beast keys. Of course you're seeing a lot of them.

Thats impossible! Accordingly to the whiners, the keys are crap. Are you saying the whiners are liars or they are really whiners?

Mr Spock
10-01-2013, 10:05 PM
They just gave out hundreds of thousands of free beast keys. Of course you're seeing a lot of them.

No one in my guild got any epics from the beast keys. Somewhere around a couple hundred keys including some guys that bought chests..

Synovia
10-01-2013, 10:17 PM
No one in my guild got any epics from the beast keys. Somewhere around a couple hundred keys including some guys that bought chests..

And there were atleast 10 that I know of so far in my guild.

We've had guys open 11 chests and get nothing but 2 stars. We've had guys open 11 and get more than 1 epic. I got Techtonic, 3 4-stars, and 2 3-stars on 11 chests. It's random. That being said, we've got 38 guild members, most of whom ended up with 15 free keys already, and have another 7 coming.



Random doesn't mean that every guild is going to get a bunch. Random means that most likely you're going to end up with guilds that don't do well, and guilds that get more than their fair share. Thats life.

Mr Spock
10-01-2013, 10:55 PM
And there were atleast 10 that I know of so far in my guild.

We've had guys open 11 chests and get nothing but 2 stars. We've had guys open 11 and get more than 1 epic. I got Techtonic, 3 4-stars, and 2 3-stars on 11 chests. It's random. That being said, we've got 38 guild members, most of whom ended up with 15 free keys already, and have another 7 coming.

Random doesn't mean that every guild is going to get a bunch. Random means that most likely you're going to end up with guilds that don't do well, and guilds that get more than their fair share. Thats life.

That's great for u. Congrats to ur guild..for all their luck..what I noticed was that everyone who had the beast master had other epics as well. Around lvl 400 in arena anyway...I was thinking maybe fusing was helping but I guess everyone must be buying chests as well....

greenwing
10-02-2013, 01:30 AM
That's great for u. Congrats to ur guild..for all their luck..what I noticed was that everyone who had the beast master had other epics as well. Around lvl 400 in arena anyway...I was thinking maybe fusing was helping but I guess everyone must be buying chests as well....

The non-gem spenders have a very small chance to get the beast master even with the max. amount of free chests. So a lot of the beast masters ingame right now are from gem spenders. Gemspenders can open a lot of chests so often will also get other epics before the one they really want. So it makes sense that most people with the beast master also have other epics.

Bryanv2
10-02-2013, 04:33 AM
Fused Leviathan + Soulhard to try this. Got a bone harvester's harb.
Then: Bone + trollforge = Battlesuit

I don't complain about the epic fusioning as much as others, since it was insanely easy to fusion something that should be pretty hard to achieve but spending money on this game isn't really an option either. Gree are so greedy, and are such a cash milking company its very hard to support.

Seeing people spend hundreds and get nothing is incredibly sad

busteroaf
10-02-2013, 04:42 AM
Gree are so greedy, and are such a cash milking company its very hard to support.

Seeing people spend hundreds and get nothing is incredibly sad

Have you never played the lottery?

The Pale Rider
10-02-2013, 08:40 AM
Haven't seen one post here or other K&D boards that mentions anyone fusing a Tec or Blaze post-update. Sure would be good to know.

Pretty confident Moontide is fusable now. If the other Epics aren't fusable now, I'm betting some will be soon. My assumption is Tec and Blaze because they were fusable before. Cloud, Mael, Forge and Beast were all chest or GW only (right?).

SnobbenSwe
10-02-2013, 10:02 AM
Is this legit?

Yes it is legit. First I fused a moontide with featherblade and it resulted in etheral garnment. I then fused the etheral garnment with leviathan and I got moontide back.

Synovia
10-02-2013, 11:33 AM
Haven't seen one post here or other K&D boards that mentions anyone fusing a Tec or Blaze post-update. Sure would be good to know.

Pretty confident Moontide is fusable now. If the other Epics aren't fusable now, I'm betting some will be soon. My assumption is Tec and Blaze because they were fusable before. Cloud, Mael, Forge and Beast were all chest or GW only (right?).

I think Tec and Blaze were "chest only" before they were fusable. I'd bet Mael and Beast end up fusable, probably not real soon though. Cloud and Forge I bet dont, or if they do, its significantly later.

Synovia
10-02-2013, 11:37 AM
The non-gem spenders have a very small chance to get the beast master even with the max. amount of free chests. So a lot of the beast masters ingame right now are from gem spenders.

This isn't necessarily true. Yes, an individual gem spender has a better chance than an individual non-spender. But there are orders of magnitude more people opening free chests than there are people buying gems to get them.

22 free keys were available to pretty much every player with some time and the bigger 4+ armors. A ton of players completed these.

Unresolved
10-02-2013, 11:37 AM
I think Tec and Blaze were "chest only" before they were fusable. I'd bet Mael and Beast end up fusable, probably not real soon though. Cloud and Forge I bet dont, or if they do, its significantly later.

Tect and blaze were both fusable when they debuted in chests. I don't believe Moontide was when it first came out.

-Solo-
10-02-2013, 11:41 AM
Moon became fusable when Blaze was released. At least that's from what I remember because no one reported Moon being fusable before I first reported Blaze being fusable, hence epics being fusable.

Unresolved
10-02-2013, 11:44 AM
Moon became fusable when Blaze was released. At least that's from what I remember because no one reported Moon being fusable before I first reported Blaze being fusable, hence epics being fusable.

I think you're right. I don't recall any moontides being fused until Blaze came out. Then fusion became the "in thing".

cruz
10-02-2013, 01:25 PM
This isn't necessarily true. Yes, an individual gem spender has a better chance than an individual non-spender. But there are orders of magnitude more people opening free chests than there are people buying gems to get them.

22 free keys were available to pretty much every player with some time and the bigger 4+ armors. A ton of players completed these.

And the chance to get epic on one key is 2 %. Its not that bad considering the amount of keys people have. The Beastmaster epic has twice the chance as the other epics. Of course the + versions have very low probabilities, they are like 0,022 % or 0,045 % for the Beastmaster. So if you want those you will have to be lucky or spend a lot of gems.

Sir Dingleberry
10-02-2013, 01:44 PM
Ok guildmate fused armored bear and chitinous got Moontide.
I'm too new to be trusted or even post screenshots so take this info for what it's worth.
Good luck and happy fusing.

Zemnasty
10-02-2013, 08:22 PM
Took a leap of faith and Fused lvl 34 chitinous with lvl 1 ethereal garment. Moontide is fusable. Alot of tards on the forums are gonna try and troll up the place.

shawnk
10-02-2013, 08:27 PM
first I want to say moonlight is now a waste of time. if u can get the current plus boss armor maxed lvl it will save u money and time and u have an armor that's almost as strong as moontide that being said. I have a combustion armor should I do anything with it? got it from chest

Synovia
10-02-2013, 08:39 PM
first I want to say moonlight is now a waste of time. if u can get the current plus boss armor maxed lvl it will save u money and time and u have an armor that's almost as strong as moontide that being said. I have a combustion armor should I do anything with it? got it from chest

I'm not a big fan of moontide, but its a lot better than the current boss armor. They're both split element, and Moontide has a 200 stat advantage. 200 points is the different between a lot of the boss armors and their + version, and people think its worth leveling those.

Moontide probably has similar value as Bear+. Its got 200 points of stats, but is split element instead of stacked, and takes more $$ to level (although not as much as you'd think, because you have to level Bear to 35 to get bear+)

MrRiver
10-02-2013, 09:06 PM
Personally got Keeper's armor off the list. Guy in our guild got Guardians with mixing trollforge and ice lich.

shawnk
10-02-2013, 09:39 PM
I'm not a big fan of moontide, but its a lot better than the current boss armor. They're both split element, and Moontide has a 200 stat advantage. 200 points is the different between a lot of the boss armors and their + version, and people think its worth leveling those.

Moontide probably has similar value as Bear+. Its got 200 points of stats, but is split element instead of stacked, and takes more $$ to level (although not as much as you'd think, because you have to level Bear to 35 to get bear+)
the thing about moonlight I don't like its its falling apart by the time u can get it to lvl 99 the next boss armor after this one will be close to surpassing it and its easy to get them to lvl 35 and then craft the plus and lvling. I have actually stopped upgrading armors I got 3 epic boss pluses and just got a real epic armor the maelstrom and Im going to focus on that I guess I will keep the combustion just for fun now. I thought it was one of the good armors to fuse that gave good results thnx guys

shawnk
10-02-2013, 09:40 PM
Personally got Keeper's armor off the list. Guy in our guild got Guardians with mixing trollforge and ice lich.

guardians is cute but just weak for me right now unless its the plus which we cant fuse :) its a shame I really like it. ty though <3

Synovia
10-02-2013, 09:58 PM
the thing about moonlight I don't like its its falling apart by the time u can get it to lvl 99 the next boss armor after this one will be close to surpassing it and its easy to get them to lvl 35 and then craft the plus and lvling

If Gree follows the pattern they've been using, Epic Boss armors will catch Moontide in about 4 or 5 months. Not anytime near to "next boss". We had basically 80 points of inflation between Jian+ and Aegis of the Fallen. Then a 200 point jump to the monos and Bear. It'll be a while before boss armors catch Moontide, and a whole lot longer before they're better than it.

shawnk
10-02-2013, 10:05 PM
If Gree follows the pattern they've been using, Epic Boss armors will catch Moontide in about 4 or 5 months. Not anytime near to "next boss". We had basically 80 points of inflation between Jian+ and Aegis of the Fallen. Then a 200 point jump to the monos and Bear. It'll be a while before boss armors catch Moontide, and a whole lot longer before they're better than it.
if its that long I might go for it. I thought one month would destroy it. thnx for this. maybe I will start fusing to get one although im happy with maelstrom and it takes priority and I got to say that thing lvls slow. in 2 days I only got it to lvl 46 and its better than the plus big 4 armors but still not good enough to get into my 3. with the fusion stones I have about 20 I think I can take it to lvl 60-70 by the end of next week maybe then I will start taking risks. I can make 3 prince 3 shaman and 2 roc. I have to study for my dat so I cant really farm I just farm the epic boss twice so it might take longer (six times a day at least) twice everytime my energy fills. bad thing is the one start armors it produces are expensive unlike the snake. taking the armor to lvl 99 is going to take some good amount of gold and I make plenty with my training fields but still its going to be a hell :) if u know what I mean <3

gnolaum
10-02-2013, 10:19 PM
There may be a 200 point stat difference between Moontide and current boss+ armors; but there is also a several million increase in gold to level it.

Unless I already have 3 recent boss+ armors levelled, I would not level a moontide even if it was given to me for free.

shawnk
10-02-2013, 10:26 PM
There may be a 200 point stat difference between Moontide and current boss+ armors; but there is also a several million increase in gold to level it.

Unless I already have 3 recent boss+ armors levelled, I would not level a moontide even if it was given to me for free.
I agree my clan can use that to lvl elements :) that's why im not going to go for it. what u missed it also takes time a lot of time that can be used for better things :)

nezoic
10-03-2013, 01:43 AM
Ive never fused any epics, but My belief was that it was a temporary dismissal from the start, just based on how gree plays its cards. The same way free gems were temporarily taken away, and once these quests ended (i.e money was made) they brought it back, If its not back in full swing, my guess would be that after this beast chest is over, it will be. minor things like this, dont discourage most players, just causes already paying players to pay a little more. Now, my guess would be, as they have started to do, if epics are back, they are going to bring a lot more craftables to the table. good one for them would be wurm, and aegis of drag, to keep from easy tect, those two mixed with cloud king, can cause a rather long go around in trying to get an armor that probably only has a 1% chance of fusing.

The only good post in this thread. It's so entertaining to listen to people complain about the odds, and how greedy "GREEED" is. They're not greedy at all, they made a game to make money and they're trying to make the most possible. If they can entice all of those suckers who spend $ (yeah I'm one of them) then more power to them. It's business and it appears to be working well for them.

Zihuantaneyo
10-03-2013, 02:18 AM
On Sep 22 03:52 I wrote a ticket to GREE:

Hello,

I'd like to get an answer to the question that's on everyone's lips - is epic armor fusing still possible? Rumour has it that you've removed that option (quietly - shame on you) with the recent update and the Beast Brawl 1 was just a smokescreen to give you more time to implement the update. It's high time to officially confirm or deny this - I don't want to play a rigged game and I'm sure many others don't want to waste their time on it either. Removing the one option that made this game close to "fair" (let's be honest - the credit card warriors will always be better than the regular players) is NOT how you convince players to buy gems. That's how you lose the playerbase (regular players quit --> there is no one to compete with --> credit card warriors quit).

Hope you didn't do what I think you've done

James


In response they wrote this back to me:

October 02, 2013 16:12

Hi,

It was rebalanced and reworked.


I **** you not. Initially I wanted to punch a hole through the screen, then I smoked a cigarette and wrote another ticket. I'd suggest bombarding them with tickets, they have to give an honest answer at one point.

The image of the ticket (with additional comments) here:
http://s24.postimg.org/cwirdyujl/ticket.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/cwirdyujl/)

Lord Of The Infernal
10-03-2013, 03:12 AM
On Sep 22 03:52 I wrote a ticket to GREE:

Hello,

I'd like to get an answer to the question that's on everyone's lips - is epic armor fusing still possible? Rumour has it that you've removed that option (quietly - shame on you) with the recent update and the Beast Brawl 1 was just a smokescreen to give you more time to implement the update. It's high time to officially confirm or deny this - I don't want to play a rigged game and I'm sure many others don't want to waste their time on it either. Removing the one option that made this game close to "fair" (let's be honest - the credit card warriors will always be better than the regular players) is NOT how you convince players to buy gems. That's how you lose the playerbase (regular players quit --> there is no one to compete with --> credit card warriors quit).

Hope you didn't do what I think you've done

James


In response they wrote this back to me:

October 02, 2013 16:12

Hi,

It was rebalanced and reworked.




Nice to know it's was back thank

The Pale Rider
10-03-2013, 06:32 AM
Nice to know it's was back thank
All your base are belong to us!

Frantast!c
10-03-2013, 06:43 AM
Says who?

Have you not done the new fusion quest yet?

Combine vs Enhance. Terminology issues at play again.

cloud strife
10-03-2013, 08:46 AM
I just wanna know if fusing infernal and dark prince gets u moontide :(

EljayK
10-03-2013, 09:01 AM
I just wanna know if fusing infernal and dark prince gets u moontide :(

You can't fuse eternal and dark prince. The both have fire. Also you would need one armor to have spirit or water, and the other armor to have the other one.

They can't have the same element to fuse. It takes one element from one side, and one element from the other side, and you get a result based on those. So you would need, for example, roc feather on one side to cover spirit, and swamp shaman on the other to cover water.

Zihuantaneyo
10-03-2013, 09:18 AM
Do you really need this spelled out for you? My letter (and the response I got) proves nothing. "Rebalanced and reworked" can mean a million things - they're deliberately dodging a straightforward question here.

How does that work for you?

We've rebalanced and reworked the issue - a player can no longer fuse epic armors, but the chances of getting them from chests have been increased.

How about this one?

We've rebalanced and reworked the issue - the chances of obtaining an epic through fusion have been decreased to 0.00000001%

See how it can mean anything you want yet? That's why a call for tickets, lots and lots of tickets, is the only sound idea I can think of - we play a game we know nothing about, half of it is speculation. I for one have submitted a ticket right after getting this joke of a response - I won't stop until I receive an honest answer as to HOW exactly was it rebalanced and reworked (is it possible? which epics are obtainable through fusion [if any]? what is the chance of obtaining them? were some epics removed from fusion altogether [like tectonic]? etc.).

Any discussion about the issue without an honest response from GREE is pointless - you say this, I say that, my word against yours, believe what you want, try it out yourself out of curiosity and impatience, lose the legendary armors you've been holding onto and come back to cry about it on the forum / actually get an epic and don't say a thing (I'm ahead and you're all behind for not knowing what I know [and let's keep it that way]). See where that gets us?

Write a ticket to GREE, they're reluctant to answer, so you'll probably get a response after 10 days. Bombard them with tickets, so that they realise the only way to get out of this mess is to face the music and admit what they've done.

Just an idea.

cloud strife
10-03-2013, 10:03 AM
You can't fuse eternal and dark prince. The both have fire. Also you would need one armor to have spirit or water, and the other armor to have the other one.

They can't have the same element to fuse. It takes one element from one side, and one element from the other side, and you get a result based on those. So you would need, for example, roc feather on one side to cover spirit, and swamp shaman on the other to cover water.
Oh :p right i didnt notice that earlier ...thanks

Synovia
10-03-2013, 11:23 AM
I think its pretty clear at this point that Moontide Platemail is fusable, and none of the other ones are.

ZERO_07
10-03-2013, 11:40 AM
Like I keep saying we're mostly intersted in finding out if these armors are fuseable as they are still all unconfirmed.

Jian's Battlegear

Aegis of the Dragon
Black Kaleidoscopic Raiment
Dark Prince's Royal Armor
Dragon Tamer's Costume
Kaleidoscopic Starmetal Raiment
Steam Powered Exo Skeleton
Wicked Wraith

Armor of Eurus
Armor of Boreas
Armor of Notus
Armor of Phyrus
Slimebane Battlegear
Assassin's Shroud
Aegis of the Fallen
Leviathan's Platemail

Blazeborn Vanguard
Maelstrom Irons
Tectonic Mantle
Cloudrange Platemail
Forgestone Aegis

SerKnight
10-03-2013, 12:59 PM
Fairly certain Forgestone and Cloudrange will never be fusable

Paladineguru
10-03-2013, 05:17 PM
Even with stat creep , and if gree manages to keep the game funded for two more years?

cafedecoy
10-06-2013, 02:56 AM
Is there's a known recipe for making epic vs epic +? (Moontide vs Moontide +)

deathexe
10-06-2013, 03:31 AM
Is there's a known recipe for making epic vs epic +? (Moontide vs Moontide +)

You can't fuse an epic+ armor.

Eunuchorn
10-06-2013, 11:46 PM
You can't fuse an epic+ armor.You must have missed my previous post about how you actually can fuse + version. Two 70/70 of the same armor will fuse into a + version.

Marco_
10-07-2013, 03:27 AM
You must have missed my previous post about how you actually can fuse + version. Two 70/70 of the same armor will fuse into a + version.
This is a topic about the current situation, not about your wish list... :p

bosskiller
10-07-2013, 10:04 AM
I emailed Gree about this about 6 days ago, still do not have a response. I know Moontide is back but I want to know if the rest ever will be.

vicious350z
10-07-2013, 09:14 PM
I emailed Gree about this about 6 days ago, still do not have a response. I know Moontide is back but I want to know if the rest ever will be.

if they do respond you probably get what I always get, "thank you for contacting us, we hope we have resolved your issue to your satisfaction.... blah blah blah" but that's the only email I have received and nothing was addressed nor was it fixed... really gree...

Ultimate_Derp
10-13-2013, 06:20 PM
Fused etheral n swapstone n got moontide
Fused battle suit remnants n rubyplate mail (was hoping for tempered at first) n got tectonic?!? :D madafakas!!!

deathexe
10-13-2013, 06:25 PM
Fused etheral n swapstone n got moontide
Fused battle suit remnants n rubyplate mail (was hoping for tempered at first) n got tectonic?!? :D madafakas!!!

Would be nice if you had some screenshots to prove the fuse.

Justx
10-13-2013, 06:27 PM
Would be nice if you had more than one post.. and some screenshots as death said.

Brutal1977
10-13-2013, 06:47 PM
got tectonic?!? :D madafakas!!!

Would be nice if you didn't get confused by your own statement and end with 'madafakas'.

Tachycardia
10-13-2013, 06:56 PM
I think the name "Ultimate_Derp" was the first warning sign for me.

bosskiller
10-13-2013, 07:01 PM
if they do respond you probably get what I always get, "thank you for contacting us, we hope we have resolved your issue to your satisfaction.... blah blah blah" but that's the only email I have received and nothing was addressed nor was it fixed... really gree...

I emailed them three weeks ago. I instantly got a message saying they had received it, but never got a response.

Nec772
10-13-2013, 07:21 PM
Fused etheral n swapstone n got moontide
Fused battle suit remnants n rubyplate mail (was hoping for tempered at first) n got tectonic?!? :D madafakas!!!

I wish but considering the name and post count your name should be Ultimate_Troll.

greenwing
10-15-2013, 03:19 AM
Anything confirmed yet of what epics are fusable again or is it still only Moontide ?

YuTu Dum
10-15-2013, 04:37 AM
I fused swamp and roc and got chiti or whatever it's called(the water legendary). fused that with the new boss legendary and got moontide.

I don't have screen shots as I don't take them every time I fuse but I have no reason to lie.

Rushton
10-15-2013, 08:15 AM
Yesterday i fused the Moontide Platemail. I did it with Wicked Wraith and Storm sorcerer. I couldn't believe i got it from two ultra rare armors. I just registerd an account so i could put reply to this forum, so this is legit. If you don't believe me fine, but why would i waste my time to register an account? Believe it or don't, its your choice.

Instagram
10-15-2013, 08:23 AM
The only fusable epic at this point of time is MOONTIDE. The rest are still unproven, so before claiming u fused them, take a screenshot?

The Pale Rider
10-15-2013, 08:27 AM
Chittenous and soulshard+ ??>>>>>>>>>>> eldritch keepers
eldritch keepers and jack >>>>>>>>>>> blackfrost

By the time I fuse this F-ing thing, the boss armor will be stronger.

Mr Spock
10-15-2013, 11:34 PM
I keep missing soulshard and leviathan = chitinous
Chitinous and bear= deep dragon

Same boat as u...

Stooboot
10-16-2013, 01:19 AM
Unless ur fusing 2 make 50 ep armors or u want a moontide stop fusing. The boss armors they are releasing are better than every armor thats fuseable

ZERO_07
10-16-2013, 07:26 AM
Yea all fuseable armors are outdated, really only point to fusing is for 50 EPs or if you missed out on getting Necromantle or the + versions of Phyrus, Bearingar, and Swampstone.

Necromancers
10-16-2013, 07:31 AM
Yeah but you gotta have some kind of good armors to get to level 43 each Epic Boss...

bentx2
10-16-2013, 08:27 AM
They are called the bigger four+ :D

Necromancers
10-16-2013, 08:58 AM
They are called the bigger four+ :D
Bigger Three that is, since Rocfeather + is pretty weak.
Still, with those and the Big Four, it's always better to have a few other strong Legendaries. They will only make things easier.

Elita
10-16-2013, 06:49 PM
On Sep 22 03:52 I wrote a ticket to GREE:

Hello,

I'd like to get an answer to the question that's on everyone's lips - is epic armor fusing still possible? Rumour has it that you've removed that option (quietly - shame on you) with the recent update and the Beast Brawl 1 was just a smokescreen to give you more time to implement the update. It's high time to officially confirm or deny this - I don't want to play a rigged game and I'm sure many others don't want to waste their time on it either. Removing the one option that made this game close to "fair" (let's be honest - the credit card warriors will always be better than the regular players) is NOT how you convince players to buy gems. That's how you lose the playerbase (regular players quit --> there is no one to compete with --> credit card warriors quit).

Hope you didn't do what I think you've done

James


In response they wrote this back to me:

October 02, 2013 16:12

Hi,

It was rebalanced and reworked.


I **** you not. Initially I wanted to punch a hole through the screen, then I smoked a cigarette and wrote another ticket. I'd suggest bombarding them with tickets, they have to give an honest answer at one point.

The image of the ticket (with additional comments) here:
http://s24.postimg.org/cwirdyujl/ticket.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/cwirdyujl/)

Posting ticket responses is STRICTLY against the rules. Please note users caught doing this will be banned.

Joshx135
10-16-2013, 06:55 PM
Posting ticket responses is STRICTLY against the rules. Please note users caught doing this will be banned.

So you see us wondering if its possible and you still won't tell us?

bosskiller
10-16-2013, 06:58 PM
Posting ticket responses is STRICTLY against the rules. Please note users caught doing this will be banned.

Why is it against the rules? And yes, please just tell us already!

Elita
10-16-2013, 07:00 PM
So you see us wondering if its possible and you still won't tell us?

The answer IS that its being re-balanced. A "yes" or "no" cannot be given at this time until the mechanic is complete. Some elements are a work in progress. It would be pretty terrible to say that "if you combine basic air and basic fire, you will get kaleidoscopic raiment!" when that isn't even 100% true. As frustrating as it may be, sometimes there just isn't a "yes" or "no" answer to things that are still a work in progress. Sorry!

bosskiller
10-16-2013, 07:28 PM
The answer IS that its being re-balanced. A "yes" or "no" cannot be given at this time until the mechanic is complete. Some elements are a work in progress. It would be pretty terrible to say that "if you combine basic air and basic fire, you will get kaleidoscopic raiment!" when that isn't even 100% true. As frustrating as it may be, sometimes there just isn't a "yes" or "no" answer to things that are still a work in progress. Sorry!

Will you let us know when there is a for sure answer? Just start a new thread when it happens.

bosskiller
10-16-2013, 08:06 PM
Im glad you hear and saw and answered this time

Joshx135
10-16-2013, 08:22 PM
The answer IS that its being re-balanced. A "yes" or "no" cannot be given at this time until the mechanic is complete. Some elements are a work in progress. It would be pretty terrible to say that "if you combined basic air and basic fire, you will get kaleidoscopic raiment!" when that isn't even 100% true. As frustrating as it may be, sometimes there just isn't a "yes" or "no" answer to things that are still a work in progress. Sorry!

Thank you for this. The community likes to know that you hear us.

Bacon and Eggs
10-16-2013, 09:07 PM
I can promise you that fusing a moontide is possible. 0 reasons to lie, it's a f***ing cell phone game. Bottom line: it works

U made me lol sir well done...but so true

The Pale Rider
10-18-2013, 08:01 AM
I feel like whats-her-name from Zero Dark Thirty with this whole "rebalancing" project. Imagine a giant red marker that says 44 DAYS SINCE EPICS WERE REMOVED!

Paladineguru
10-18-2013, 08:16 AM
You could just get a job and chest or war like the rest of us

The Pale Rider
10-18-2013, 08:33 AM
You could just get a job and chest or war like the rest of us
Wow! Thanks! That was SO helpful! I'll just go right out and do that!

Schmuck.

-Solo-
10-18-2013, 10:45 AM
Elita, stop side tracking the question. It is a simple yes or no, with the exception being Moontide. Just because something isn't 100% true doesnt mean that it isn't 100% false.

Eunuchorn
10-18-2013, 10:49 AM
Elita, stop side tracking the question. It is a simple yes or no, with the exception being Moontide. Just because something isn't 100% true doesnt mean that it isn't 100% false.

Go + or go home.

-Solo-
10-18-2013, 11:06 AM
Are you positive?

The Pale Rider
10-19-2013, 11:21 AM
45 DAYS

So I pulled up the armor chart and sorted by max stats. The gaps are pretty filled in. Starting with Leviathan+ at 31, there's a steady progression to Soulshard Necromantle (apart from the gap between Cloud+ and Blaze+ but filling in between EPIC+ applies to a tiny fraction of GW winners). So in a sense the rebalancing is complete or nearly complete since the introduction of Epics. Every player pre-Leviathan was forced to replace all of their armors (which was presumably the point).

GREE is just missing the next logical step - rebalancing the chests and fusion tables to reflect what they've done with the armor table. This won't last much longer. Probably one more wave of bosses (Nightwatch). At that point, every element armor will have been replaced by a boss+. Frankly, I think GREE has already waited too long. DP Chest and Fusion are pretty big aspects of the game to leave nonfunctioning for 2-3 months. It's time to make them function normally again. DP chest needs to offer either the low end Epics (non-plus) or a newly introduced armor that's 100-200 points above the boss+ level (e.g. 2600 base and 2850+). I think new armor is preferrable since it revitalizes the chest and creates interest. Since DP chest keys are the reward for the current nightwatchers challenge -- I suggest you introduce the new armor simultaneously with the rewards (i.e. NEW BEST EVER DP CHEST).

Lou 1xxx
10-19-2013, 06:23 PM
NEW BEST EVER DP CHEST with 5x chance for legendary ( .005 to be exact)

greenwing
10-21-2013, 03:30 AM
The answer IS that its being re-balanced. A "yes" or "no" cannot be given at this time until the mechanic is complete. Some elements are a work in progress. It would be pretty terrible to say that "if you combine basic air and basic fire, you will get kaleidoscopic raiment!" when that isn't even 100% true. As frustrating as it may be, sometimes there just isn't a "yes" or "no" answer to things that are still a work in progress. Sorry!

It is good to hear it is being rebalanced, but the main question is if it is possible to fuse epics and if yes what epics can be fused. Currently fusing is just not worth it except to get lvl50 armours to level your armours and to get moontide. So allthough a yes/no might not be possible, it is possible to tell the current status and what the rebalancing means (is it a chance-rebalancing, will we get some epics back or all of them, will fusing be usefull again) and when it will be finished.

So to take your own example, we know it is not 100% guaranteed to get kaleido by combining basic air + fire. The main question is if it is possible to get Kaleido (or any other epic) by fusing the right armours (e.g. with 4* armour for a decent chance)

SkySD
10-23-2013, 10:15 AM
Has anyone had any luck recently in fusing Blazeborne? As of today, there have been multiple posts on the Knights and Dragons Wiki of people fusing Blazeborne.

I have been waiting forever for it to be fusable again and would like to see if this is truly confirmed or not.

Shinae
10-23-2013, 11:15 AM
Could be just trolling. I got some armors waiting to fuse, but I don't want to spend them either until I hear I can get something else besides moontide.

Sparkle_DPA
10-23-2013, 12:45 PM
its quite easy to get epic fusing to be honest. One of you just need to offer gree 10k. They prefer cash in multiple duffel bags so get ready for that.

asela
10-23-2013, 12:53 PM
Can you use fusing to get legendary Epic boss armor?

The reason I ask, if you can't get to level 43 in the EP event, could you save your EP ingredient drops then not forge the non+ EP armor. Then hope to get a non+ EP armor from fusing, so you could later forge the +EP armor when you level up the other one to 35.

Possible or impossible? Thx

EljayK
10-23-2013, 12:55 PM
Can you use fusing to get legendary Epic boss armor?

The reason I ask, if you can't get to level 43 in the EP event, could you save your EP ingredient drops then not forge the non+ EP armor. Then hope to get a non+ EP armor from fusing, so you could later forge the +EP armor when you level up the other one to 35.

Possible or impossible? Thx

Until recently the answer was always no. However, there is a list in the armor fusing thread that includes a number of previous epic boss armors that are now fuseable. They are all quite a while ago. Technically steam wizard robes is an epic boss armor. I think you can fuse everything before the dragon quests. (Eurus, Boreas, Phyrus, and Notus)

Sakino
10-23-2013, 12:57 PM
Can you use fusing to get legendary Epic boss armor?

The reason I ask, if you can't get to level 43 in the EP event, could you save your EP ingredient drops then not forge the non+ EP armor. Then hope to get a non+ EP armor from fusing, so you could later forge the +EP armor when you level up the other one to 35.

Possible or impossible? Thx recent epic boss armors are not fuseable.... The fuseable boss armors are the ones older that the four dragons, ecept jian battlegear.
If you saved, lets say 50 flaming feathers you could try to fuse now a flame summoner shroud and level it to 35, unlocking the plus and crafting the plus version from mats. Unlucky i crafted everything that came first of eurus... So i cant.

gramps
10-23-2013, 03:46 PM
I was bored and decided to try a fusion this afternoon. I pulled out the Soulshard and my boilerplate armor trying to open a little space. I about had a heart attack when I received the Blazeborne Vanguard.
My soulshard was a plus but not the boilerplate. Both were at level 35 and my new armor is at 27.

Oyster
10-23-2013, 07:02 PM
I was bored and decided to try a fusion this afternoon. I pulled out the Soulshard and my boilerplate armor trying to open a little space. I about had a heart attack when I received the Blazeborne Vanguard.
My soulshard was a plus but not the boilerplate. Both were at level 35 and my new armor is at 27.

ooooo! great one!
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/080/168/yeah-o.gif

knights
10-23-2013, 07:39 PM
I was bored and decided to try a fusion this afternoon. I pulled out the Soulshard and my boilerplate armor trying to open a little space. I about had a heart attack when I received the Blazeborne Vanguard.
My soulshard was a plus but not the boilerplate. Both were at level 35 and my new armor is at 27.

The probability must be really rare. People kept *****ing they can only fuse moontide, i guess they are all just unlucky whiners. I should try that with a + version and at least level 35....

deathexe
10-23-2013, 07:44 PM
The probability must be really rare. People kept *****ing they can only fuse moontide, i guess they are all just unlucky whiners. I should try that with a + version and at least level 35....

If the blazebourne is currently fusable, it probably came along with yesterday's push update. It wasn't fusable before.

bosskiller
10-23-2013, 08:42 PM
Wonder what a good combination is to get a mono..... this will be tough.

deathexe
10-23-2013, 08:53 PM
Wonder what a good combination is to get a mono..... this will be tough.

Mono fire with Mono air legendary should be one of the best combinations with 7 possibilities, two of which are blaze and combust.

bosskiller
10-23-2013, 09:05 PM
Mono fire with Mono air legendary should be one of the best combinations with 7 possibilities, two of which are blaze and combust.

thanks!

Now, to get those...

Shinae
10-23-2013, 11:49 PM
I'm going to wait for few more confirmations about Blazeborn, before I throw my legendaries to fusion.

AragonRay
10-24-2013, 12:11 AM
It is confirmed. Just go for it.

ppownage
10-24-2013, 01:01 AM
just fused it :)

Deatux
10-24-2013, 03:31 AM
I hope these put the if its fuseable or not to rest: note these are not my pictures

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/blinky586/Ruby_cloud_zps967a4508.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/blinky586/Blazeborn_fusion_zps95195175.jpg

The Pale Rider
10-24-2013, 10:09 AM
I hope these put the if its fuseable or not to rest: note these are not my pictures

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/blinky586/Ruby_cloud_zps967a4508.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/blinky586/Blazeborn_fusion_zps95195175.jpg

As noted in the other thread -- these pictures tell people nothing. But that doesn't mean a better picture would confirm Blaze is fuseable either, because it could be an out of date picture.

What's the deal with Spartan armor? It's new. It's fusable. Is it in the DP chest? Not like GREE to roll out a new armor without announcing it? How does the basic stats stack up against basic aegis?

Necromancers
10-24-2013, 10:12 AM
What's the deal with Spartan armor? It's new. It's fusable. Is it in the DP chest? Not like GREE to roll out a new armor without announcing it? How does the basic stats stack up against basic aegis?

It's an Air/Earth armor, has total stats of 2472 non-plus ((1371 ATT, 1101 DEF)). It's currently not in chests as far as known, but probably it will, as otherwise it'd be the only armor without a plus version obtainable.

The Pale Rider
10-24-2013, 10:22 AM
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It's an Air/Earth armor, has total stats of 2472 non-plus ((1371 ATT, 1101 DEF)). It's currently not in chests as far as known, but probably it will, as otherwise it'd be the only armor without a plus version obtainable.

So same elements as AoD and similar stats: Basic 1160A,1321D = 2481 Plus 1276A 1439D = 2715

Except this would be better as higher Att is generally better than higher Def.

Typical of GREE to recognize that there's only two useful non-plus armor in the chest (AoD and BKale) and make the next armor added be the same elements as AoD. Still love that it's fuseable, as I don't open many DP chests and have never had an AoD.

Dojason
10-25-2013, 05:10 PM
Has anyone had any luck recently in fusing Blazeborne? As of today, there have been multiple posts on the Knights and Dragons Wiki of people fusing Blazeborne.

I have been waiting forever for it to be fusable again and would like to see if this is truly confirmed or not.

I got blazeborne by fuzing the ember lizard with armor of the bear

Insanity.
10-25-2013, 06:39 PM
I only think Blazebourne and Moontide are back.

bosskiller
10-25-2013, 06:46 PM
I only think Blazebourne and Moontide are back.

Why do you keep stating the obvious, already discussed and decided things on all these threads? Jw

Necromancers
10-25-2013, 11:10 PM
Why do you keep stating the obvious, already discussed and decided things on all these threads? Jw

Because he only reads the title of all the threads, maybe the first post and doesn't bother reading the rest.

Shinae
10-26-2013, 01:28 AM
I wish better and newer epics would be available too, maybe with very low chance of fusing. Even if its like 0,1% or 0,01%.

Also Blazeborne seems very confirmed now. I got it today as well. Anyone got tectonic yet? I wonder how long it will take to be available.

Razer0901
10-26-2013, 08:24 AM
Hello all,

What I think is that every time they pass a new update to the game (not the one where you update app but where the game updates itself) it is probably a new epic. From what I know of, the first epic that was fused after 9/14 (or whenever the epics were taken away) was on like 9/27 and it was Moontide. Then Blazeborn became fuseable again on like 10/24. I'm going to say they are introducing new epics every month, (4 Weeks).

I don't think next one is going to be tectonic since tectonic was the 4th one introduced, probably going to be cloudrange platemail, but I hope I'm wrong cause I want that tectonic!

P.S This is my first post so please bare with me! Thanks!

busteroaf
10-26-2013, 09:05 AM
Hello all,

What I think is that every time they pass a new update to the game (not the one where you update app but where the game updates itself) it is probably a new epic. From what I know of, the first epic that was fused after 9/14 (or whenever the epics were taken away) was on like 9/27 and it was Moontide. Then Blazeborn became fuseable again on like 10/24. I'm going to say they are introducing new epics every month, (4 Weeks).

I don't think next one is going to be tectonic since tectonic was the 4th one introduced, probably going to be cloudrange platemail, but I hope I'm wrong cause I want that tectonic!

P.S This is my first post so please bare with me! Thanks!

I really hope they don't make Cloudrange available. As a show of respect to the people who won guild wars, they should keep all Guild War Epic's off the fusion tables, permanently. That way, they have their trophy that no one else (outside of top 10) does.

Razer0901
10-28-2013, 02:52 PM
I really hope they don't make Cloudrange available. As a show of respect to the people who won guild wars, they should keep all Guild War Epic's off the fusion tables, permanently. That way, they have their trophy that no one else (outside of top 10) does.

Yes I agree! I don't think they were ever fuseable, (even though regular cloudrange is worse than tectonic.) I hope the next one is Tectonic!!!

Oyster
10-28-2013, 03:18 PM
Hello all,

What I think is that every time they pass a new update to the game (not the one where you update app but where the game updates itself) it is probably a new epic. From what I know of, the first epic that was fused after 9/14 (or whenever the epics were taken away) was on like 9/27 and it was Moontide. Then Blazeborn became fuseable again on like 10/24. I'm going to say they are introducing new epics every month, (4 Weeks).

I don't think next one is going to be tectonic since tectonic was the 4th one introduced, probably going to be cloudrange platemail, but I hope I'm wrong cause I want that tectonic!

P.S This is my first post so please bare with me! Thanks!

I think cloudrange only available in IOS and not android. I'd think tectonic would be next as well based on this, since it's available on both.

bosskiller
10-28-2013, 03:40 PM
Looking forward to expirementing with fusions. I wasted all my fusion stones making rates to enhance my legendaries with which are all ebas non+ but they do the job. I'm level 50 and still haven't unlocked all the stages but I have a trick that gets me a good 500-600 gems per night for free so I wanna jump ahead too soon lol

Um.... how do you get the gems?

sawoo
11-01-2013, 02:10 AM
I'm starting to fuse my first epic, can anyone care to share if the chances for getting an epic is greater in using a leveled or plus legendary please?

TheGreatYumYum
11-01-2013, 02:18 AM
I'm starting to fuse my first epic, can anyone care to share if the chances for getting an epic is greater in using a leveled or plus legendary please?

The level of the armor won't change the chances of getting a better one. It just affects the level of the resulting armor. As far as fusing plus armors, I'm not sure although I would think it doesn't matter.

JiihaaFIN
11-01-2013, 02:45 AM
The level of the armor won't change the chances of getting a better one. It just affects the level of the resulting armor. As far as fusing plus armors, I'm not sure although I would think it doesn't matter.
You can't fuse plus versions.

deathexe
11-01-2013, 02:51 AM
You can't fuse plus versions.

You misunderstood. He meant using + armors won't affect the outcome of a fusion.

LionRyan
11-01-2013, 05:03 AM
Still waiting for Tectonic :confused:

iH8t2lose2
11-01-2013, 05:26 AM
One day it will be fusable.

Gawain
11-01-2013, 06:09 AM
Still waiting for Tectonic :confused:

Is tec not almost useless now?

Necromancers
11-01-2013, 06:12 AM
Is tec not almost useless now?
Epics are never really useless, especially for f2p.

ZERO_07
11-01-2013, 07:15 AM
Is tec not almost useless now?
It is, it only (In theory) beats two armors and loses to four, and if Tectonic isn't + or on Main Knight then you're going to have a hard time beating armors that it SHOULD beat.

Synovia
11-01-2013, 11:52 AM
Is tec not almost useless now?

Not even close. It utterly destroys Mael,Cloudrange and Combustion+, beats up Bear+ and Assassin+ despite being at elemental disadvantage, hangs fine with Moonplate,Blaze, and BeastMaster, and loses to Forge and Necro.

Synovia
11-01-2013, 11:57 AM
The probability must be really rare. People kept *****ing they can only fuse moontide, i guess they are all just unlucky whiners. I should try that with a + version and at least level 35....

There was a period where it was just moonplate. Blaze came more than a week later.

Loose-End
11-01-2013, 10:52 PM
Fused moontide with chitinous and the rock/spirit legendary with the mask (can't remember name)
and the next fuse I combined dark price+ and ss+ and received blazeborn, did another same fuse, and received another blazeborn lol.. I'm on android.

SkySD
11-01-2013, 11:17 PM
Lucky..I've done 20+ fusions trying for blazeborne and have had no luck at all. Tried 15+ for moontide when it was first found fusable and no luck either.

Hakurou
11-02-2013, 10:12 PM
I finally managed to fuse blazeborne using the results of previous fusions aka flamehunters garb and mountainvine shroud.

Newsmurf
11-02-2013, 10:26 PM
are flamehunters and mountain farmed armors or randomly crafted?

Hakurou
11-02-2013, 10:39 PM
are flamehunters and mountain farmed armors or randomly crafted?

Old armor, i got flamehunters garb by fusing armor of the Wolf and blackfrost and mountainvine shroud was the result of fusing Wicked witch and headless horseman.

Andromeda
11-03-2013, 08:35 AM
I got super lucky today:

Roc feather robes (non plus) + Armor of infernal
Lord (non plus) and for BV

Previous other formulas used resulted in a legendary and a couple 3* armors

US GanjaBoy
11-04-2013, 04:28 AM
Is tec not almost useless now?

Well actually yes it is, too many spirit armors around, when I meet a tec in the arena I can easily beat it, most of the time even only using my max blaze,

At the moment tecs are good against Irons and beasts and all wind's of course, but witch's robes+ and AoD+ are good too against those, so...

Hildigam
11-04-2013, 05:55 AM
Well actually yes it is, too many spirit armors around, when I meet a tec in the arena I can easily beat it, most of the time even only using my max blaze,

At the moment tecs are good against Irons and beasts and all wind's of course, but witch's robes+ and AoD+ are good too against those, so...

Tect is still a tank that you have to be ready for. Saying that you blaze can take it is kinda silly caus blaze is one of the best armors in the game, unfusable forever and only 400 people max have one. Having one elemental weakness can help your line cause you put a dual behind it and you complicate other people. So useless is relative

bosskiller
11-04-2013, 06:26 AM
Tect is still a tank that you have to be ready for. Saying that you blaze can take it is kinda silly caus blaze is one of the best armors in the game, unfusable forever and only 400 people max have one. Having one elemental weakness can help your line cause you put a dual behind it and you complicate other people. So useless is relative

I think you are confusing Blazeborne with Forgestone Aegis.

SkySD
11-04-2013, 06:27 AM
Actually, if you check out the fusion thread, blazeborne is fusable now.

Sakino
11-04-2013, 06:45 AM
Blazeborne, in my opinion, is the most common of the epics. Was drastically easy to fuse time ago, needing little effort whit some fire legendaries and totally no effort whit a fire mono + spirit mono. Almost some 1000' of players in my opinion have blaze.

sawoo
11-04-2013, 06:52 AM
I got super lucky today:

Roc feather robes (non plus) + Armor of infernal
Lord (non plus) and for BV

Previous other formulas used resulted in a legendary and a couple 3* armors

How many attempts did you try to get your blazeborn?

ZERO_07
11-04-2013, 07:11 AM
Tect is still a tank that you have to be ready for. Saying that you blaze can take it is kinda silly caus blaze is one of the best armors in the game, unfusable forever and only 400 people max have one. Having one elemental weakness can help your line cause you put a dual behind it and you complicate other people. So useless is relative
No it's useless, it can't beat what it's supposed to beat, and there are so many Spirit armors out there now, in fact Tectonic LOSES to Legendaries. It's only good if it's + and on Main, otherwise it's garbage.

also I think Gree will be selling Moontide+ soon in the near future....

D-parkour
11-04-2013, 03:54 PM
Fused witchs robes (earth/wind) with headless horseman (fire/water) and got blazeborn vanguard out of it :)
Got moontide and blaze now and have got 2 Guardian's battlgear so that's going pretty well ^^

Hildigam
11-04-2013, 05:18 PM
I think you are confusing Blazeborne with Forgestone Aegis.

Reading is completely overrated..... sry bout that

Noxation
11-04-2013, 08:02 PM
Some fusions of epics can be conducted, like Blazeborne and Moontide, but still no sign about Tectonic and others.

sawoo
11-04-2013, 08:11 PM
No it's useless, it can't beat what it's supposed to beat, and there are so many Spirit armors out there now, in fact Tectonic LOSES to Legendaries. It's only good if it's + and on Main, otherwise it's garbage.

also I think Gree will be selling Moontide+ soon in the near future....

U mean putting them in chests?

Lord Of The Infernal
11-04-2013, 08:28 PM
U mean putting them in chests?

He is trying to said selling it's like those previous promotion 40 chest 999 + Guardian's Battlegear twin jian Aod

Agree moontide is totally useless i used one normal moontide as fodder got one + holding on at level 30 i might use it as a armor fodder too

US GanjaBoy
11-05-2013, 04:58 AM
Tect is still a tank that you have to be ready for. Saying that you blaze can take it is kinda silly caus blaze is one of the best armors in the game, unfusable forever and only 400 people max have one. Having one elemental weakness can help your line cause you put a dual behind it and you complicate other people. So useless is relative

Tec is a tank but there are so many spirit armors which make that tank just a maggiolino...
blaze is not forge/necro...blazeborn vanguard is fusable!...so 400 people only? no...no...
can that one element really help you if you face necro/forge/devoted/moon and all spirit EB+?
yep useless is relative of course...at the moment tec is almost useless (for what I can see), maybe it won't in future if gree releases air epic or air in general, according to gree logic the next guild war's epic reward will be a mono earth...