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Holicaholic
09-28-2013, 10:29 AM
I'm nearing 185 and need to figure out if its worth it. I've got close to 7mil IPH realized (higher on paper) and my money lately goes to the ltbs. So since I probably won't get a chance to upgrade it to a high level, and the big foot print, do you all think its worth it?

CCKallDAY
09-28-2013, 10:31 AM
First!
Level of nightclubs?
I built one then upgraded it to level 2 (casino) in case i didn't get another one b/c of cheap LTB's like the big top. I haven't got around to my next casino yet, so i'm glad i got it to lvl 2.
BTW the Casino takes a week to build, so be careful.

kingofwale
09-28-2013, 10:32 AM
I'm nearing 185 and need to figure out if its worth it. I've got close to 7mil IPH realized (higher on paper) and my money lately goes to the ltbs. So since I probably won't get a chance to upgrade it to a high level, and the big foot print, do you all think its worth it?

unless you have 2 billion saved and no need to donate to synd. I wouldn't recommend it

bald zeemer
09-28-2013, 10:32 AM
It's the best non-LTB, non-NC building in the game. Basically it comes down to whether LTBs will follow the path of the circus, or return to being IPH-boosting monsters.

Either way, I'm currently working on my casinos, so long run you'll probably want them. Whether to build them now or not - wait and see what the next LTB is, I'd suggest.

sister morphine
09-28-2013, 10:33 AM
Before LTBs it was (at level 10) second only to the nightclub for output. So probably worth your while even if it'll be a slower upgrade path than might have been

CCKallDAY
09-28-2013, 10:33 AM
Either way, I'm currently working on my casinos, so long run you'll probably want them. Whether to build them now or not - wait and see what the next LTB is, I'd suggest.going to do that after I can't upgrade the LTB anymore

bald zeemer
09-28-2013, 11:37 AM
Exactly.

:)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/E6EBB6C8-CA46-4BBE-923A-2BCF21129897-2581-0000032B35AD3FFC_zps90a5a098.jpg

CCKallDAY
09-28-2013, 11:40 AM
Wow.
Amazing

Travers
09-28-2013, 11:51 AM
That would be awesome to rob those buildings lol bald zeemer

ploop
09-28-2013, 02:10 PM
Exactly.

:)

http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag150/Balthazar9/E6EBB6C8-CA46-4BBE-923A-2BCF21129897-2581-0000032B35AD3FFC_zps90a5a098.jpg


1 word. wow

Limerick
09-28-2013, 03:40 PM
I'm nearing 185 and need to figure out if its worth it. I've got close to 7mil IPH realized (higher on paper) and my money lately goes to the ltbs. So since I probably won't get a chance to upgrade it to a high level, and the big foot print, do you all think its worth it?


Why would you not put up a building that even at Level 1 pays out over $1M per 24 hours (the best collection time IMO)? You should dump lower end buildings if you need room. Also, once you reach Level 185 you will get a goal to build one, and get a reward of over $11M.

OneHoop
09-28-2013, 04:46 PM
I see what you mean about never having upgrade time. I think its a pretty easy argument to at least get 2 LV1s now, and upgrade them as time allows (though they'll always come behind NCs and Pagodas). You should have trash buildings that you can sell to make space, or you have plenty of space if you've already sold trash buildings.

If your income is great enough that you are time-limited for LTBs instead of money-limited, then you should look at d(IPH)/dt by which they will not fare so well, but using my modified ROI based on my collection times and factoring in opportunity cost scaled to new income, they still look pretty good: (sorry about formatting)

Name Level
Chinese Pagoda 2
Nightclub 2
Chinese Pagoda 3
Nightclub 3
Chinese Pagoda 4
Palm Hotel 1
Chinese Pagoda 1
Nightclub 4
West Side Fine Gems 1
Nightclub 1
Casino 1
Toy Box 1
No Interest Savings 1
Chinese Pagoda 5
Palm Hotel 2
Casino 2
West Side Fine Gems 2
Nightclub 5
Palm Hotel 3
Toy Box 2
No Interest Savings 2
Chinese Pagoda 6
West Side Fine Gems 3
Casino 3
Toy Box 3
No Interest Savings 3
Nightclub 6
Big Top Burlesque 1
Palm Hotel 4
Chinese Pagoda 7
Casino 4
West Side Fine Gems 4
Toy Box 4
Dockside Mills 1
Big Top Burlesque 2
No Interest Savings 4
Transtech Building 1
Nightclub 7
Big Top Burlesque 3
Palm Hotel 5
Dockside Mills 2
Transtech Building 2
Chinese Pagoda 8
West Side Fine Gems 5
Casino 5
Toy Box 5
Dockside Mills 3
No Interest Savings 5
Transtech Building 3
Big Top Burlesque 4
Nightclub 8
Palm Hotel 6
Dockside Mills 4
Transtech Building 4
Chinese Pagoda 9
West Side Fine Gems 6
Casino 6
Toy Box 6
No Interest Savings 6
Chinese Pagoda 10
Big Top Burlesque 5
Nightclub 9
Nightclub 10
Dockside Mills 5
Transtech Building 5
Palm Hotel 7
Casino 7
West Side Fine Gems 7
Toy Box 7
Big Top Burlesque 6
No Interest Savings 7
Dockside Mills 6
Transtech Building 6
Palm Hotel 8
Casino 8
West Side Fine Gems 8
Big Top Burlesque 7
Toy Box 8
No Interest Savings 8
Dockside Mills 7
Transtech Building 7
Palm Hotel 9
Palm Hotel 10
Casino 9
West Side Fine Gems 9
Big Top Burlesque 8
Toy Box 9
Casino 10
No Interest Savings 9
West Side Fine Gems 10
Toy Box 10
No Interest Savings 10
Dockside Mills 8
Transtech Building 8
Big Top Burlesque 9
Big Top Burlesque 10
Dockside Mills 9
Transtech Building 9
Dockside Mills 10
Transtech Building 10

OneHoop
09-28-2013, 04:50 PM
Realized that this also includes 30% upgrade modifier, it would move the LV1s up if you don't have it.

bald zeemer
09-28-2013, 04:53 PM
If your income is great enough that you are time-limited for LTBs instead of money-limited, then you should look at d(IPH)/dt by which they will not fare so well
On straight dIPH/t Casinos come out ahead of everything except LTBs and NCs. Palms are close, but still demonstrably worse.

CCKallDAY
09-28-2013, 05:39 PM
Casinos are pimp. They are a sign of distinction. I almost didn't report a guy with two level ten casinos on level 65 because they looked so pimp.

I mean, you can build one of these ghetto hoods with all these lower crap buildings, but drop a casino in the middle of them and bam!!! You're stylin and profilin! I mean, the whole point of the game is to make a pimped out hood right?He could have been camping from the start of the game - all buildings used to be unlocked on lvl 1.

CCKallDAY
09-28-2013, 05:43 PM
Why would you not put up a building that even at Level 1 pays out over $1M per 24 hours (the best collection time IMO)? You should dump lower end buildings if you need room. Also, once you reach Level 185 you will get a goal to build one, and get a reward of over $11M.Dude, only 900k w/o bonuses/modifiers. Get your facts straight, it's possible some people don't have ANY modifiers. Uncommon, but possible. And you did all the goal to build those buildings? You don't have to get the 11 mil prize (only takes me about 5hrs to make 11 mil, i'm broke) i didn't finish those goals. You must have, and that guy might have not unlocked that goal yet either. Pls check facts!

KemoKidd
09-29-2013, 09:06 AM
I bought 2 recenently and was able to get 1 to level 3 and the other to level 2 before the ltb kicked in (I stopped the previous ltb early). Casinos seem to be "worth it" more than spending 500 gold a Palm Hotel. Thank you ltbs! You saved me 1,000 gold!

Max Power
09-29-2013, 09:24 AM
Are Casinos worth it?

Does IPH even matter?

Dutchie
09-29-2013, 01:07 PM
1 word. wowYeah, wow that they've kept the crap buildings that pay diddly squat. Any reason for that BZ?

CCKallDAY
09-29-2013, 01:53 PM
Yeah, wow that they've kept the crap buildings that pay diddly squat. Any reason for that BZ?His hood is so big, he doesn't need to delete them. You should only delete buildings when you need the space. *groans at you*

Travers
09-29-2013, 02:08 PM
Selling those small buildings of his won't even give him much money compared to what he has, so what is the point?

bald zeemer
09-29-2013, 03:12 PM
Yeah, wow that they've kept the crap buildings that pay diddly squat. Any reason for that BZ?
I was hoping to have 2 of each money building. Unfortunately it's impossible to fit them in now. As I need to I'll get rid of them, until then they're still of use from time to time.

cc thunder
09-29-2013, 11:38 PM
I was hoping to have 2 of each money building.
why, are you building Noah's hood?lol