This is what Crime City is now:

[JBE]

A pay-to-play game.

It's that simple.

I've decided to stop complaining on the forum, because... well, it makes no difference.

Crime City used to be a 'freemium game' - you played for free and could get an advantage by spending a little money. Some players rose to the top by spending a lot of money, and that was fine. Some could use tactics to get ahead - such as camping, using overtime on the case events, regularly collecting, smart hood planning etc - and that was fine too.

Gree/Funzio has now reached the point where it has flipped the game from being a free game with optional spend, to a pay-to-play game. You cannot succeed at the game, as it is currently designed, without spending real world money:


You cannot be in a meaningful syndicate without spending at least a few hundred real world dollars a year on digital pixels, at least.
You cannot fully win a boss event without spending gold.
You cannot fully win a LTQ, even with pre-hitting and massive energy reserves, without spending gold
You cannot even get on the board for a collect 20 event without spending insane amounts of gold
You cannot fully upgrade LTBs without spending gold and/or having building upgrade cost/modifiers (and you can no longer get those without spending gold because they are now only given as war prizes and not as case event prizes.)



And I have decided I'm fine with all this. Gree won't change anything because there is no incentive for them to do so. Even when the rich lil piggies in FC and SAS moan about a colossal screw up like the timing in the most recent war, Gree is not punished in any way - talk of a strike or some such thing always tapers off. Gree chuckles and throws more cash on the fireplace.


But it is important to point out that there is a distinction between what the game was and what it is now. It used to be a freemium game, and now it is not. Everyone on this forum needs to come to terms with this, and stop moaning.

I abandoned my L73 camper account this weekend because of stats inflation. Spent ages building that account up. Despite what was once unbeatable stats for its level (175k A, 200k D!), in the space of just two months it's been completely decimated by ridiculousness like the Streen Incinerator and the Sweet Vengeance, given out to pretty much everyone. I'll continue my main L226 account until eventually that becomes useless too.

Oh, and by the way, spoiler alert for how Crime City ends: Eventually the game will collapse from not enough participation. Gree will abandon the game, and start a new freemium game, repeating all the same steps. Rinse and repeat.

Hey, maybe they'll call it Crime City 2?

JBE

[The_]

Oh, shi- just got real. inb4goldaddicts tear this thread apart.

[Butt Futter]

I would love to troll this thread but I agree with it too much.

[travisman1]

I agree with it but i am also a free player and still find the game tons of fun without spending gold. I dont need to get all the LTQs, LTBs, and Bosses to have fun.

[Dipstik]

Only took OP six months to figure this out, too.

[JBE]

Only took OP six months to figure this out, too.

4,417 posts Dippy, wow! That's some achievement. You truly are a top-level human being.

Tell me, when Crime City collapses, which museum will host 'the complete unabridged works of Dipstik? The Smithsonian, perhaps? The VasaMuseet? How about the Museo Nacional de Antropologia? You've already had bids, no doubt...

[zwiswoo]

Good post. [Also, interesting anti-dipstik preemption, though I doubt it will work.]


A pay-to-play game.
I abandoned my L73 camper account this weekend because of stats inflation. Spent ages building that account up. Despite what was once unbeatable stats for its level (175k A, 200k D!), in the space of just two months it's been completely decimated by ridiculousness like the Streen Incinerator and the Sweet Vengeance, given out to pretty much everyone. I'll continue my main L226 account until eventually that becomes useless too.


For me this is the most telling point. Three months back your stats for L73 would have been quite amazing, while now they're pretty lousy. I had lower stats than that back then, and I think I have pretty decent stats for my level. All those months of carefully nurturing your account die out in a matter of two months because you don't keep up for some time, and the stat inflation is truly insane. Meanwhile a new and even completely free account over the same period can easily get much better stats than those.

The game has basically become memory free - nothing you do in months 1-n matters, because month n+1 can completely wipe it out if you don't keep up. There's a real world analog of this - it's called a tough job market. You can't do well (and I don't mean top player, just decent player) at this game any more unless you're constantly taking time out for it. The same story as you tell for gold, and I would argue even more extreme.

[The Real Bosses]

im not a expert and i expend a minimum amount of gold... I am in a top 150 Syndicate and we have a lot of fun in this game... i can tell you there is a syndicate for everyone. you don't want to buy gold and you cant finish any event easy get a top1000 syndicate you will be a DL there and you will enjoy the game too. im telling you this because my stats sux.. around 700k and there are like over 50 team that i cant hit 1 player and still enjoy the game in my area, beating top 150 team and top 250. when a team is to strong we go passive. About the event i never finish 1 event :(... but i do all of then half way at least.

[Pinpoint30]

True story! I remember when... you had to win 700 pvps in order to win a 120 point item...

[nopenopenope]

4,417 posts Dippy

Only 786 more to catch our little mnju....but it'll take him six months to figure it out.

[JBE]

Good post. [Also, interesting anti-dipstik preemption, though I doubt it will work.]

The game has basically become memory free - nothing you do in months 1-n matters, because month n+1 can completely wipe it out if you don't keep up.

Yep, agree pretty much all of this. I also predict that before the year ends, based on current stats inflation. there will be an item with either 100k attack or defence. Wait and see.

As for Dipstik, he performed for me as instructed. His could've won by sitting the thread out, but he didn't. He works for me.

[ShawnBB]

The end of CC will be like,

Upgrade a laundromat style ltb to lvl10 in 5 days and you got 10m/10m weapon. Spend gold to speed up or delete game.

Oopsy, we screwed up an event, here is a 5m/5m weapon for y'all.
Previous efforts don't matter players! Once we screw up things, we will inflate the stats and make what you guys already earned more worthless. Take that or delete game.



When a game is less and less friendly to new players, more and more disrespectful to veterans, it is going to an end.
I don't know you guys, but I feel humiliated and shamed of playing this games unlike 1 year ago.

[Mack The Knife]

Its funny. I still enjoy the game. strange eh?
I suppose if the game ends tomorrow...I'll have to find something else to do.

[Bartolo]

I actually completely disagree with you, OP. when I joined cc in the beginning of the year, there were no syns, no boss events, no PVP events etc. That game is still there. Not only that, you can join whole syndicates who only play that part of the game. You can still camp, you can still work on strategically building, and pay cash for overpriced weapons. you'll just have to come to grips with not finishing the boss and ltq events. Are you angry that someone your level has 500x your stats? Not only has that been happening since before stat inflation went insane, its also been around since the beginning of the year, before syns existed. you won't be the biggest baddest boy on the block without gold, that has always been a given. All you got to do is choose which game you want to play: the free one with the slower developing players, or the paid one with people whose stats will double every couple months.

[JBE]

I actually completely disagree with you, OP. when I joined cc in the beginning of the year, there were no syns, no boss events, no PVP events etc. That game is still there. Not only that, you can join whole syndicates who only play that part of the game. You can still camp, you can still work on strategically building, and pay cash for overpriced weapons. you'll just have to come to grips with not finishing the boss and ltq events. Are you angry that someone your level has 500x your stats?

Yes and no to some of your points. As ShawnBB said above, the game has become "less and less friendly to new players, more and more disrespectful to veterans."

While there had always been a disparity between gold spenders and free players, it has become so notable now that a free player simply cannot defend against a gold player, or take part in the game in any meaningful way. There is no rob or revenge, and no protecting yourself if you're a free player.

Consider two factors that used to be feasible: no banking strategy, and defence buildings.

With the stats inflation train, all defence buildings have become worthless. Are you going to spend 48 hours upgrading a defence building to gain 100 points of D when people are literally gaining items that do 10 times as much damage on an hourly basis? The very notion of a 'hood' or a defense-only hood has been destroyed - and again, I'm saying that this has happened in a matter of months. Literally, in a matter of months, defense buildings have been negated. Have you noticed how people have stopped buying bodyguard agencies and upgrading turrets?

Despite my lurker status in the forum, I have been playing the game since 2011. I have seen so many players spend months and months building up their defence buildings and their hoods. But when players are gaining 50k stats week-on-week, the only way to defend from being robbed now is to collect on time.

That also brings me to camping and no banking - neither are feasible for free players any more. What bugged me about the L73 account I abandoned is, because it was so strong, I didn't bank. But the addition syndicates have meant no limit to the amount of times you can lose $30k per rob, so you can get money taken from you well above the reasonable limits imposed by PvP robs (when it says 'this player is too beaten up!'). You can lose millions in the war, even if you are strong for your level, because you are open to attack from players more than 100 levels above you.

There is no limit to getting beaten up and losing money in syndicate wars, so the no-banking strategy becomes infeasible.

Similarly, pre- the introduction of events, the only focus for gold was on items and premium money buildings. So 90% of the game was accessible to all. You had missions, PvP, and strategy, and planning. Hood design. Mafia sizes.

Now the focus of the game is solely on events, and you cannot advance in the game without spending real money.

The key difference, going back to my original post, is this:

If you are not competing, you are not playing the game, right. You used to be able to compete without spending real world money, by using tactics, cunning, patience and perseverance. There were a few superheroes with off-the-hook stats who spent ridiculous money, but they were few and far between.

Now, there is only gold spend. There is nothing else. You stats don't matter. Your IPH doesn't matter. Your hood planning doesn't matter. Your activity doesn't matter. Your mafia size doesn't matter. How long you've been playing for doesn't matter. There is no place for tactics, cunning, patience and perseverance.

Now, there is only gold spend.

[MattThomas08]

1. Upgrading defense buildings has always been a waste of time. You don't get true value on the upgrades, only on the initial purchase, so wasting 1 minute of time to upgrade a building was always a waste.

2. No banking is still a viable strategy and should be your main strategy. If you're a level 73 and somebody 100 levels above you is attacking you, they're idiots. I think you'll find if you're a low level player, depending on how much cash you have on hand, you're not going to lose a ton of it to justify banking it. If I bank 500 mil or so during the war, I'll lose 50 mil. That would take 1,666 losses to justify. Nobody is attacking a low level player that often.

[candyson]

1. Upgrading defense buildings has always been a waste of time. You don't get true value on the upgrades, only on the initial purchase, so wasting 1 minute of time to upgrade a building was always a waste.

2. No banking is still a viable strategy and should be your main strategy. If you're a level 73 and somebody 100 levels above you is attacking you, they're idiots. I think you'll find if you're a low level player, depending on how much cash you have on hand, you're not going to lose a ton of it to justify banking it. If I bank 500 mil or so during the war, I'll lose 50 mil. That would take 1,666 losses to justify. Nobody is attacking a low level player that often.
I started no-banking last war, and it was well worth it. I had under 50 losses, so I gained money by no-banking during war.
And even through all this mess, I'm still CAMPING as a FREE player. It's possible, you just have to be smart about it.

[sister morphine]

No banking is still a viable strategy and should be your main strategy. If you're a level 73 and somebody 100 levels above you is attacking you, they're idiots. I think you'll find if you're a low level player, depending on how much cash you have on hand, you're not going to lose a ton of it to justify banking it. If I bank 500 mil or so during the war, I'll lose 50 mil. That would take 1,666 losses to justify. Nobody is attacking a low level player that often.
Possibly, or possibly not. One time I forgot to "lose" my excess cash before an MW war began and in the very first battle I got smacked about something rotten and lost it all. That was well over 100 attacks, and probably more than $30 million. The account was either high 50s or very low 60s level at the time.

That said, the old game can be played if you wish by simply dropping mafia so you're invisible to most of the monsters (I say most as there's always a few who float just under 500 mafia and can see lower own). I've done that to avoid the mayhem during PvP events

[Joe bananas]

I agree the game isnt what it used it be but you can't blame Gree for taking people's money. Gold players have ruined this game. Instead of swallowing their pride when they get beaten and robbed they throw they're hand in their pocket. This direction the game is going was only enevitable.

[Mack The Knife]

I agree the game isnt what it used it be but you can't blame Gree for taking people's money. Gold players have ruined this game. Instead of swallowing their pride when they get beaten and robbed they throw they're hand in their pocket. This direction the game is going was only enevitable.

you misspelled inevitable. Crime City is a zero sum game. In order for you to win, someone else must lose. To that end players will seek any advantage they can to secure said result. This includes buying gold. It's an option of the game. Why should people not buy gold simply to meet your standard of fair play? you don't think its worth spending gold on pixels? cool don't. but to fault other players for taking full advantage of their options is beyond idiotic.

[ShawnBB]

JBE, a lot of us free veterans have already quit forum and hard to unite people.

Forum here has a lot of Gree defenders who started this game within 1 year and they have no idea what the game was like back in 2011 and early 2012.
They enjoy the feeling of flying stats and running a 2 month hood robbing those 2 year free campers. They don't need to know wthell IpH or math is. No pain, Yes gain!

No matter how reasonable a proper complain is, there always will be replies like "Stop whining, Spend or delete game, Even the s*** that Gree took smells good".
That's why Gree can keep going on with his bully, new spenders will always like the their new weapon and defend Gree at frontline.
Trampstamp is the true winner, he already predicted the future of CC and walked away with repect.



As I can expect, if you are not a veteran, you will just think I'm whining here.
HOWEVER! Let me tell you one thing, Funzio created this game as a strategy game, and it indeed was. Not anymore now.

[Mack The Knife]

aaaand perhaps they (Funzio) sold the game to another company because it wasn't profitable as it was and they couldn't pay their programmers? aaaaand perhaps it wouldn't be here at all if Gree hadn't turned it into the "Pay for Play" model that many claim its become?

possible?

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[Bigbuzybee]

True story, game makes a mistake and uses up my gold 3 tickets later still no responce, done buying gold what's the point. Do the math on how much gold used to get that weapon vs $ u paid to get gold lol yea ok 4k points worth all that money lol.....rather hit the casino's at least they give u free drinks while sticking it to you...

[sister morphine]

aaaand perhaps they (Funzio) sold the game to another company because it wasn't profitable as it was and they couldn't pay their programmers? aaaaand perhaps it wouldn't be here at all if Gree hadn't turned it into the "Pay for Play" model that many claim its become?

possible?
Why do people constantly try and make excuses for Gree? There's an ocean of difference between making a profit, and profiteering?

Fact: Gree's main business until the middle of 2012 was gacha games in Japan - which made Tanaka-san a billionaire - until the government there clamped down (http://www.economist.com/node/21554533) on such games. The company lost a large part of its value along with the revenue stream. Factions, Syndicates and Guilds are all part of their strategy to recover the lost income from players of these games.

[SilentAssassin]

Here are the facts, actually only one:

1. Without gold spenders, free players wouldn't be able to play right now

Why?

This game wouldn't even be around anymore.
Profits are already diving for GREE, its sad to say but they actually need more spenders.

[R_G]

If you dont like it, just dont play it.

I stopped Knights and Dragons because of this, also Simpsons Tapped out.

AS long as you moan you do not take any actions, just stop and dont moan.

[wenzdae]

Grrrrr Gree. Been playing for 2 years, am a gold user and there has been a glitch with my hood for over 2 months. Either my buildings are re-building or upgrading simultaneously. Cool u say? not when its gonna take 118,000hrs to complete! Yes, 13yrs to complete!!
I have sent ticket after ticket after ticket and just get the same automated message, they are aware of the problem and have no timeframe when it will be fixed.....Isn't this illegal? Im paying for a service and not receiving it. Some of the buildings are also gold building ie. gentleman club.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS FREKIN GAME!

[Fatherllama]

Here are the facts, actually only one:

1. Without gold spenders, free players wouldn't be able to play right now

Why?

This game wouldn't even be around anymore.
Profits are already diving for GREE, its sad to say but they actually need more spenders.

Gree's other ventures have lost a ton of money. CC, MW and KA have been making money hand over fist since the group element was introduced in all three games. They're trying to turn a massive profit into a stupid profit with measures like the ones we've been discussing. But I'm sure the view from your high horse is lovely this time of year.

[Butt Futter]

Grrrrr Gree. Been playing for 2 years, am a gold user and there has been a glitch with my hood for over 2 months. Either my buildings are re-building or upgrading simultaneously. Cool u say? not when its gonna take 118,000hrs to complete! Yes, 13yrs to complete!!
I have sent ticket after ticket after ticket and just get the same automated message, they are aware of the problem and have no timeframe when it will be fixed.....Isn't this illegal? Im paying for a service and not receiving it. Some of the buildings are also gold building ie. gentleman club.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS FREKIN GAME!

Stop time traveling and this won't happen.

[Mack The Knife]

Why do people constantly try and make excuses for Gree? There's an ocean of difference between making a profit, and profiteering?

Fact: Gree's main business until the middle of 2012 was gacha games in Japan - which made Tanaka-san a billionaire - until the government there clamped down (http://www.economist.com/node/21554533) on such games. The company lost a large part of its value along with the revenue stream. Factions, Syndicates and Guilds are all part of their strategy to recover the lost income from players of these games.

Profiteering? As in there's something unethical or dubious here? no. That isn't the case. People are just upset that the nature of the game has become personally disagreeable to them. Boo hoo. It happens. if you want a static game that never changers or adapts go download Tetris.

Gree is a business. The goal of a business is to make money. There isn't any other goal. They don't inherently care if you play this game or not except for the fact that your doing so generates revenue. Why would they ever do anything that isn't in line with that goal? They don't owe you a game. Do you expect fast food joints to churn out free burgers? do you expect Apple or Samsung to have free phone giveaways?

[murf]

True story! I remember when... you had to win 700 pvps in order to win a 120 point item...

haha...I remember when you got a Giant (vehicle) 15/16 stats for reaching 500 mafia, (I think that's right). This item was useful enough at the time, that there were many threads from people complaining that they never received. A ton of tickets were submitted to Gree for a 15/16 item!!!!

[Dipstik]

Grrrrr Gree. Been playing for 2 years, am a gold user and there has been a glitch with my hood for over 2 months. Either my buildings are re-building or upgrading simultaneously. Cool u say? not when its gonna take 118,000hrs to complete! Yes, 13yrs to complete!!
I have sent ticket after ticket after ticket and just get the same automated message, they are aware of the problem and have no timeframe when it will be fixed.....Isn't this illegal? Im paying for a service and not receiving it. Some of the buildings are also gold building ie. gentleman club.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS FREKIN GAME!

This happens to people who try the time traveling glitch now. Enjoy your broken game.

edit: argh... butt futtered!

[murf]

JBE, a lot of us free veterans have already quit forum and hard to unite people.

Forum here has a lot of Gree defenders who started this game within 1 year and they have no idea what the game was like back in 2011 and early 2012.
They enjoy the feeling of flying stats and running a 2 month hood robbing those 2 year free campers. They don't need to know wthell IpH or math is. No pain, Yes gain!

No matter how reasonable a proper complain is, there always will be replies like "Stop whining, Spend or delete game, Even the s*** that Gree took smells good".
That's why Gree can keep going on with his bully, new spenders will always like the their new weapon and defend Gree at frontline.
Trampstamp is the true winner, he already predicted the future of CC and walked away with repect.



As I can expect, if you are not a veteran, you will just think I'm whining here.
HOWEVER! Let me tell you one thing, Funzio created this game as a strategy game, and it indeed was. Not anymore now.

Shawn, this was the first "complaining" thread that I agree with.

Did I like the old version of crime city better? Hell yes. Building IpH was very strategic, spending RP was very strategic.

Do I still enjoy the game? yes, but probably not as much.

Have I spent more gold in the last 3 months, then I spent in the first 15 months? Yes. So I guess Gree did I pretty good job changing their business model.

[GU7 F4WK3S]

haha...I remember when you got a Giant (vehicle) 15/16 stats for reaching 500 mafia, (I think that's right). This item was useful enough at the time, that there were many threads from people complaining that they never received. A ton of tickets were submitted to Gree for a 15/16 item!!!!

The first ticket I ever submitted was because I lost $184K during an attack after I got locked out of the game for a few hours. I had just pulled it out of the bank and was going to upgrade. Than it crashed. I remember it being a big deal at the time. Now it's embarrassing.

[bald zeemer]

Grrrrr Gree. Been playing for 2 years, am a gold user and there has been a glitch with my hood for over 2 months. Either my buildings are re-building or upgrading simultaneously. Cool u say? not when its gonna take 118,000hrs to complete! Yes, 13yrs to complete!!
I have sent ticket after ticket after ticket and just get the same automated message, they are aware of the problem and have no timeframe when it will be fixed.....Isn't this illegal? Im paying for a service and not receiving it. Some of the buildings are also gold building ie. gentleman club.

I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLAY THIS FREKIN GAME!

Just travel back to a time when your hood worked. Problem solved.

[Dipstik]

I think anyone who plays this game for "strategy" probably needs to wear a helmet when walking.

[Butt Futter]

I have not futtered Dippy on the forum as well as in the game.

I can die a happy man now.

[Vile Lynn]

I've been playing 2 years & 2 months with 2 accounts... In a Top 10 Syn, retired to a Top 400 Syn.

I still love the game, and really not much has changed, heh!

CC will be around forever!

Expectations... I don't expect much :cool:

[budman68]

If you dont like it, just dont play it.

I stopped Knights and Dragons because of this, also Simpsons Tapped out.

AS long as you moan you do not take any actions, just stop and dont moan.

You do not need to pay out on Simpsons as bad as with a Grreeeeddddd game. I also play. There are no syndicates, not grabbing for your dollars with every event. Stay free and things are much better.

[sister morphine]

Profiteering? As in there's something unethical or dubious here? no. That isn't the case. People are just upset that the nature of the game has become personally disagreeable to them. Boo hoo. It happens. if you want a static game that never changers or adapts go download Tetris.

Gree is a business. The goal of a business is to make money. There isn't any other goal. They don't inherently care if you play this game or not except for the fact that your doing so generates revenue. Why would they ever do anything that isn't in line with that goal? They don't owe you a game. Do you expect fast food joints to churn out free burgers? do you expect Apple or Samsung to have free phone giveaways?
That's hilarious. Any regular company that alienated so many customers (and very good ones too, like Cerberus) wouldn't last long. A business needs to make money of course, but it needs to retain the goodwill of its clients too. Can't believe you don't comprehend that (judging by what you wrote here)

Ask Newscorps how many copies of The Sun newspaper they sell in Liverpool.

[Mack The Knife]

That's hilarious. Any regular company that alienated so many customers (and very good ones too, like Cerberus) wouldn't last long. A business needs to make money of course, but it needs to retain the goodwill of its clients too. Can't believe you don't comprehend that (judging by what you wrote here)

Ask Newscorps how many copies of The Sun newspaper they sell in Liverpool.

You don't have access to how many customers are staying or going so you're not qualified to comment on where they stand in that respect. Neither am I.
And the fact that you can ask Newscorps anything despite the fact they provide anything but news proves my point about what a business is. The quality of the product is secondary to the profitability of said product. That's not my preference but thats the facts.

Im going to try and meet you half way here. As players we know what we want and what gives us the greatest entertainment value. And Im sure Gree tries to balance what we want against what they need as a company. but there will always be a gap. And while we don't need to be happy about it, we need to have an understanding of why that gap exists. Im done.

[SilentAssassin]

Gree's other ventures have lost a ton of money. CC, MW and KA have been making money hand over fist since the group element was introduced in all three games. They're trying to turn a massive profit into a stupid profit with measures like the ones we've been discussing. But I'm sure the view from your high horse is lovely this time of year.

Actually with everyone knowing about the gold bonus program, that effects gree sales. People now have gold they are sitting on and dont need to buy vaults at full price anymore every month. That hurts Gree a lot, more than you would think

you are not correct

[SNEAKERJUNKY]

I think anyone who plays this game for "strategy" probably needs to wear a helmet when walking.

Bhahahaha! This game ONLY takes money. The only skill involved is from the restraint of not buying gold.

[cc thunder]

Now, there is only gold spend. There is nothing else. You stats don't matter. Your IPH doesn't matter. Your hood planning doesn't matter. Your activity doesn't matter. Your mafia size doesn't matter. How long you've been playing for doesn't matter. There is no place for tactics, cunning, patience and perseverance.

Now, there is only gold spend. I absolutely agree, I have been playing this game since mid 2012 or even early 2012, I never have two characters only one at a time, I lost my first character at the end of last year, level 134 with only 50 K attack and defense, these are pathetic stats by today's standards, yet I had over 16,000 successful robberies with less than 400 failed attempts, today those stats would be a laughing stock and people can say they would have been then too, but it simply wasn't the case it was and entirely different game.
I was around before CK,CCK, MWWM, DOA and several others whose names I forgot, that were syndicates before there were such a thing, I still play, & I still love the game but in order to be competitive you really have to be in a rat race type situation, where is into your life and your time with your family and it is self destructive this game that we play, everybody is going to talk crap or agree with me either way but you all know what I am saying is true, I wholeheartedly believe that the original post in this thread is the absolute truth in this game as it is now, and I feel sad and for the players that never got to experience Crime City and its true original form, as it was far far superior, I actually wish greed would release a separate version without the syndicates

[Blaggard]

I don't think I've ever seen a game sell out its morals quite so quickly as CC. Quite frankly, I'm disgusted.

[wenzdae]

This happens to people who try the time traveling glitch now. Enjoy your broken game.

edit: argh... butt futtered!

what the hell are u talking about? Whats a time travelling glitch?

[KYXR]

Missing the ole' days, when spending a bit of gold would give you a small edge over your enemies, keeping things interesting. Nowadays, spending a bit of gold will get you a 60k car + a mod.This game is so ****ing messed up, makes you want to quit.