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crazyman1
09-18-2013, 08:50 PM
copy and paste for damage calulator
lvl (you at )

free hit damage (--)

lvl 1 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 2 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 3 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 4 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 5 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 6 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 7 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 8 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 11 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 08:53 PM
lvl (88 )
free hit damage (133885)
cash hit damage (207262)

lvl 1 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 2 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 3 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 4 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 5 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 6 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 7 free hit (2) cash hit (--)
lvl 8 free hit (1) cash hit (1)
lvl 9 free hit (1) cash hit (1)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (2) barely killed
lvl 11 free hit (1) cash hit (3)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (3)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (3)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)

bristi
09-18-2013, 08:56 PM
is there a certain level i need to be to compete in teh boss event? im level 9

candyson
09-18-2013, 08:56 PM
I mainly use cash hits to move faster
lvl (55)
free hit damage (--)
cash hit damage (-202,387-)

lvl 1 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 2 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 3 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 4 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 5 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 6 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 7 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 8 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 11 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)

*Add 8k stat syndicate reward: new cash hit damage 211,025*

lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (-4-)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (-4-)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (-5-)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (-5-)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (-5-)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (-6-)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (-6-)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 09:23 PM
if we want new guide i need more info

mgriss
09-18-2013, 09:26 PM
Didn't start paying attention until I was surprised that 1 free hit only got me through #7 (or was it 8?) so also don't put too much faith in the numbers below 10. I'll start making note of every damage I do from now on.

xp per level in tier 1 is 1x boss level (I'll make note if it changes)
*Seems they changed this. Noticed around lvl 32, but probably happened earlier. Now 2x boss lvl.

lvl 18 -> 20
free hit damage 12500? ->
cash hit damage 20100? ->

lvl 1 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 2 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 3 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 4 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 5 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 6 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 7 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 8 free hit (2) cash hit (--)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (1)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (1)
lvl 11 free hit (1) cash hit (1)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (2 x 20582) =41164
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (2 x 20641) barely beat =41282
lvl 14 free hit (1 x 13937) cash hit (2 x 20802)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (2 x 20951, 1 x 21100? [switched syn before last hit]) +14xp
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (3 x 21325) barely beat =63975
lvl 17 free hit (1 x 14337) cash hit (3 x 21399) =78534 (+14559)

+the win 300 syn prize

lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (3 x 29546) =88638 (+10104)
lvl 19 free hit (1 x 18586 [boss had barely a sliver left though]) cash hit (3 x 29636) =107494 (+18856)
lvl 20 free hit (1 x 19696?) cash hit (3 x 29797) +16 xp =109087 (+1593)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (4 x 30076) =120304 (+11217)
lvl 22 free hit (1 x 20209 [boss had sliver health]) cash hit (4 x 30164) =140865 (+20561)
lvl 23 free hit (1 x 20288) cash hit (4x 30252) =141296 (+431)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (5x 30340) =151700 (+10404)
lvl 25 free hit (1 x 20582) cash hit (5x 30690) =174032 (+22332)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (6x 31463) =188778 (+14746)
lvl 27 free hit (1 x 21188 [boss had tiniest sliver]) cash hit (6 x 31624) =210932 (+22154)
lvl 28 free hit (1 x 21413) cash hit (6x 31961) =213179 (+2247)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (7x 32110) =224770 (+11591
lvl 30 free hit (1 x 22049) cash hit (7x 32910) =252419 (+27649)
lvl 31 free hit (1 x 22709) cash hit (7x 33895) =259974 (+7555)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (8x 34269) 64xp =274152 (+14178)
lvl 33 free hit (1 x 22960) cash hit (8x 34269) 66xp =297112 (+22960)
lvl 34 free hit (--) cash hit (9x 34418) 68xp =309762 (+12650)
lvl 35 free hit (1x 23327) cash hit (9x 34817) =336680 (+26918)
lvl 36 free hit (1x 24331) cash hit (9x 36316) =351175 (+14495)
lvl 37 free hit (--) cash hit (8x 37010; 2x 37495) =371070 (+19895)
lvl 38 free hit (1x 30607) cash hit (8x 45683) =396071 (+25001)
lvl 39 free hit (--) cash hit (9x 46038) =414342 (+18271)
lvl 40 free hit (1x 31071) cash hit (9x 46375) =448446 (+34104
lvl 41 free hit (1x 32250) cash hit (9x 48135) =465465 (+17019)
lvl 42 free hit (--) cash hit (10x 48485) =484850 (+19385)
lvl 43 free hit (1x 33106 [another invisible sliver]) cash hit (10x 49413) =527236 (+42386)
lvl 44 free hit (--) cash hit (11x 49574) =545314 (+18078)
lvl 45 free hit (--) cash hit (11x 49754) =547294 (+1980)
lvl 46 free hit (--) cash hit (11x 51759) =569349 (+22055)
lvl 47 free hit (1x 34945) cash hit (11x 52158) =608684 (+39334)
lvl 48 free hit (--) cash hit (12x 52319) =627828 (+19144)
lvl 49 free hit (1x 35288) cash hit (12x 52670) =667328 (+39500)
lvl 50 free hit (--) cash hit (13x 53569) =696397 (+29069)

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 09:28 PM
need your attack info to figure out damage

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 10:39 PM
You need to account for the fact that your boss attack increases with each successive boss. I was on boss 12-13 when my syndicate finished the syndicate goal awarding the 8k attack item. Multiply 8k by however many boss hits and you can see a huge margin of error, for instance.

zwiswoo
09-18-2013, 10:41 PM
This is very rough, but so far I think the boss health is basically 3x of the old values, at least for my level (tier 4). No idea how long that trend continues, but it works till level 20.

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 10:43 PM
running attack hit damage is needed to be added. thank you BigMoney for input.

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 10:47 PM
i was thinking 2x orginal damage by chart

Go4Seven
09-18-2013, 10:47 PM
You need to account for the fact that your boss attack increases with each successive boss. I was on boss 12-13 when my syndicate finished the syndicate goal awarding the 8k attack item. Multiply 8k by however many boss hits and you can see a huge margin of error, for instance.

I know this sounds like a stupid question, but where are you seeing the syndicate goals? I don't see those anywhere (e.g. personal goals, battle for empire city, or the syndicate section). I don't want to miss out on an 8k attack item because of a bug in the game.

zwiswoo
09-18-2013, 10:52 PM
i was thinking 2x orginal damage by chart

What level are you? It could be that the multiplier depends on the tier, the same way xp per boss does. I'm tier four, level 98.

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 10:58 PM
This is very rough, but so far I think the boss health is basically 3x of the old values, at least for my level (tier 4). No idea how long that trend continues.

Not a terrible estimate for Tier 5 either, it seems, at least according to where I stopped being able to 1 hit the boss.

Apparently the boss items (rare/uncommon/common) get better at the higher boss levels.

Edit: not so much at higher boss levels. Boss 25 is somewhere under 3.5mil HP (instead of the usual 3mil).

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 10:59 PM
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but where are you seeing the syndicate goals? I don't see those anywhere (e.g. personal goals, battle for empire city, or the syndicate section). I don't want to miss out on an 8k attack item because of a bug in the game.

You go to your normal goal list, and there's a toggle at the top for individual and syndicate goals.

zwiswoo
09-18-2013, 11:01 PM
Apparently the boss items (rare/uncommon/common) get better at the higher boss levels.

Do you mean the actual items, or the chance of getting rares?

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 11:03 PM
Do you mean the actual items, or the chance of getting rares?

The actual items. New set of rares, every thing else shifts down (so original rares are now uncommon, and original uncommons are common).

Rare:
Klout's Car (800/700)
Klout's Cannon (900/550)
Klout's Security Vest (600/950)

Uncommon:
Klout's Sniper Rifle (400/278)
Klout's Poison (337/361)
Klout's Roadster (350/346)

etc

zwiswoo
09-18-2013, 11:07 PM
The actual items. New set of rares, every thing else shifts down (so original rares are now uncommon, and original uncommons are common).

Rare:
Klout's Car (800/700)
Klout's Cannon (900/550)
Klout's Security Vest (600/950)

Uncommon:
Klout's Sniper Rifle (400/278)
Klout's Poison (337/361)
Klout's Roadster (350/346)

etc

Nice! What level did the new items start?

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 11:08 PM
Nice! What level did the new items start?

I think at level 26.

kingofwale
09-18-2013, 11:14 PM
big money, you got the tier boss prizes??

crazyman1
09-18-2013, 11:15 PM
The actual items. New set of rares, every thing else shifts down (so original rares are now uncommon, and original uncommons are common).

Rare:
Klout's Car (800/700)
Klout's Cannon (900/550)
Klout's Security Vest (600/950)

Uncommon:
Klout's Sniper Rifle (400/278)
Klout's Poison (337/361)
Klout's Roadster (350/346)

etc

i dont have those rare your uncommons are my rares

rares:
Klout's Sniper Rifle (400/278)
Klout's Poison (337/361)
Klout's Roadster (350/346)
uncommons :
klout ak 150/179
klout's gas grenade 180/129
klout's blade 161/158
commons
klout's pistal 75/70
klout's handshake 60/95
klout's cycle 88/52

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 11:16 PM
big money, you got the tier boss prizes??

Nope. You need someone in FC to do it. :D

BigMoney
09-18-2013, 11:17 PM
i dont have those rare your uncommons are my rares

rares:
Klout's Sniper Rifle (400/278)
Klout's Poison (337/361)
Klout's Roadster (350/346)
uncommons :
klout ak 150/179
klout's gas grenade 180/129
klout's blade 161/158
commons
klout's pistal 75/70
klout's handshake 60/95
klout's cycle 88/52

That's because you're still under boss 25, I imagine. Not sure if they will be different for different Tiers. I am Tier 5.

zwiswoo
09-18-2013, 11:21 PM
That's because you're still under boss 25, I imagine. Not sure if they will be different for different Tiers. I am Tier 5.

I'm tier 4 and doing L20, and my rare/uncommon/common items look the same as crazyman's. I'm wondering if maybe it's not tier so much as boss level. As in the items shift at L26 as you say: the uncommons become commons and rares become uncommon, and new items show up as rares.

Go4Seven
09-18-2013, 11:39 PM
You go to your normal goal list, and there's a toggle at the top for individual and syndicate goals.

Thanks for answering a stupid question. I appreciate your contributions to the community. Your posts are helpful to me on a regular basis. It turns out I wasn't stupid or crazy; I just needed to download an update to the game.

bald zeemer
09-18-2013, 11:48 PM
Lvl 28 still under 3.3m in tier 5

gulp
09-19-2013, 01:21 AM
copy and paste for damage calulator
lvl (100 ) --> lvl (101)

free hit damage (--)

lvl 1 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 2 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 3 free hit (1 cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 4 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 5 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 6 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 7 free hit (1) cash hit (--)free hit damage (208.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 8 free hit (2) cash hit (--)free hit damage (209.000)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (1)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (311.900)
lvl 10 free hit (1) cash hit (1)free hit damage (214.000)cash hit damage (319.900)
lvl 11 free hit (1) cash hit (1)free hit damage (214.000)cash hit damage (320.000)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit ()free hit damage (--)cash hit damage ()
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (2)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (320.000)
lvl 14 free hit (1) cash hit (2)free hit damage (214.000)cash hit damage (320.000)
lvl 15 free hit (1) cash hit (2)free hit damage (214.000)cash hit damage (320.000)
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (3)cash hit damage (321.000) not a single rare
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 18 free hit (1) cash hit (3)free hit damage (214.000)cash hit damage (321.000)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (4)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (321.000)
lvl 20 about 1.300.000 damage needed but still no rares!
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)

(CK) EL
09-19-2013, 01:49 AM
lev 1-25
75/70-gun-Klout's Pistol
60/95-gun-Klout's Handshake
88/52-car-Klout's Cycle

150/179-gun-Klout's AK
180/129-explosive-Klout's Gas Grenade
161/158-melee-Klout's Blade

400/278-gun-Klout's Sniper Rifle
337/381-melee-Klout's Poison
350/348-car-Klout's Roadster
lev 26-50 (new rares)
800/700-car-Klout's Car
900/550-gun-Klout's Cannon
600/950-armor-Klout's Security Vest
lev 51-75 (new rares)
1500/1600-gun-Klout's Gatling Gun
1300/1900-car-Klout's Bulletproof SUV
2000/1000-explosive-Klout's Explosives
lev 76-100 (new rares)
2500/4000-armor-Klout's Gunner Armor
3200/3100-car-Klout's Prize Car
4200/1900-explosive-Klout's Nerve Agent

BigMoney
09-19-2013, 01:50 AM
I'm tier 4 and doing L20, and my rare/uncommon/common items look the same as crazyman's. I'm wondering if maybe it's not tier so much as boss level. As in the items shift at L26 as you say: the uncommons become commons and rares become uncommon, and new items show up as rares.

Uh, yes. That's what I (thought I) said? I meant perhaps the rares are different at different tiers as you progress through the bosses, though-- wasn't how the boss events were done a long time ago-- different boss items depending on your level?

They change at boss #51, as well, it seems. 1k+ stat items then.

(CK) EL
09-19-2013, 01:50 AM
lev 1-25
75/70-gun-Klout's Pistol
60/95-gun-Klout's Handshake
88/52-car-Klout's Cycle

150/179-gun-Klout's AK
180/129-explosive-Klout's Gas Grenade
161/158-melee-Klout's Blade

400/278-gun-Klout's Sniper Rifle
337/381-melee-Klout's Poison
350/348-car-Klout's Roadster

lev 26-50 (new rares)
800/700-car-Klout's Car
900/550-gun-Klout's Cannon
600/950-armor-Klout's Security Vest

lev 51-75 (new rares)
1500/1600-gun-Klout's Gatling Gun
1300/1900-car-Klout's Bulletproof SUV
2000/1000-explosive-Klout's Explosives

lev 76-100 (new rares)
2500/4000-armor-Klout's Gunner Armor
3200/3100-car-Klout's Prize Car
4200/1900-explosive-Klout's Nerve Agent

BigMoney
09-19-2013, 01:55 AM
lev 1-25
75/70-gun-Klout's Pistol
60/95-gun-Klout's Handshake
88/52-car-Klout's Cycle

150/179-gun-Klout's AK
180/129-explosive-Klout's Gas Grenade
161/158-melee-Klout's Blade

400/278-gun-Klout's Sniper Rifle
337/381-melee-Klout's Poison
350/348-car-Klout's Roadster
lev 26-50 (new rares)
800/700-car-Klout's Car
900/550-gun-Klout's Cannon
600/950-armor-Klout's Security Vest
lev 51-75 (new rares)
1500/1600-gun-Klout's Gatling Gun
1300/1900-car-Klout's Bulletproof SUV
2000/1000-explosive-Klout's Explosives
lev 76-100 (new rares)
2500/4000-armor-Klout's Gunner Armor
3200/3100-car-Klout's Prize Car
4200/1900-explosive-Klout's Nerve Agent

Wow, awesome job. Any idea about how much HP boss 100 had?

(CK) EL
09-19-2013, 02:17 AM
Wow, awesome job. Any idea about how much HP boss 100 had?

i haven't finished it yet..
lev 20 boss defence is 1.8-1.9m 2 hits with ~1.85m attack
lev 30 boss defence is 3.7-3.8m 2 hits with ~1.87m attack
lev 31 boss defence is 3.8-4.0m 3 hits with ~1.878m attack

BigMoney
09-19-2013, 02:19 AM
i haven't finished it yet..
lev 20 boss defence is 1.8-1.9m 2 hits with ~1.85m attack
lev 30 boss defence is 3.7-3.8m 2 hits with ~1.87m attack
lev 31 boss defence is 3.8-4.0m 3 hits with ~1.878m attack

Aw darn. I been leeching off bald zeemer for that kind of info, but a part of me suspect L100 will be crazy-- similar to how the Park Trafficking Elite LTQ required a huge jump to 100 Hillside Rifles, or the syndicate LTQ requiring 100 kills of the Seaside boss, etc. GREE likes to stick you when they know you're too far to quit now.

kuksluk
09-19-2013, 04:24 AM
Tier 5, Boss 90 has around 40mil health I think

BigMoney
09-19-2013, 04:27 AM
Tier 5, Boss 90 has around 40mil health I think

Ouch. Brutal!

kingofwale
09-19-2013, 04:37 AM
Tier 5, Boss 90 has around 40mil health I think
since I am at 685K per cash hit... that will take me 58 hits... say I regen + 1 minutes.

That's 15 refill... Yeah, I'm out

Butt Futter
09-19-2013, 04:40 AM
since I am at 685K per cash hit... that will take me 58 hits... say I regen + 1 minutes.

That's 15 refill... Yeah, I'm out

say you spent 3 vaults for this entire boss event and finished 100 bosses. You wouldn't take the 100k+ stat increase? It's a much better value then spending 3 vaults in a war or ltq for 40K stat increase.

kingofwale
09-19-2013, 04:42 AM
say you spent 3 vaults for this entire boss event and finished 100 bosses. You wouldn't take the 100k+ stat increase? It's a much better value then spending 3 vaults in a war or ltq for 40K stat increase.

if I need 15 refill for boss 90, I doubt I can finish with 3 vaults.. probably 6...

if I were to use 6 vaults. I rather do it for a modifer or save it for SLTQ.

nino poutso
09-19-2013, 04:59 AM
is there any thread with the boss prizes?

mdc
09-19-2013, 05:32 AM
can someone define where are the tiers lvls plz

im lvl 136, which tier am i in?

gulp
09-19-2013, 05:45 AM
mdc you must be in tier 5.

MuMiX
09-19-2013, 10:34 AM
I started lvl 49, and lvl 18 boss is already over 400k (i'm doing 79501 dmg). I thought someone said the hp growth slows down (about +30k per boss right now)? Billionaire's guide shows 460k hp for boss 50 for tier 2... I think now boss 50 in tier 2 will be like 1 mil. Anyone else in tier2 can provide info?

MuMiX
09-19-2013, 10:42 AM
My notes from hyman schwartz shows tier 2 boss 18 at 60k and now it is 400k. Thats 6-7x! Am I missing something because that is pretty ridiculous.

propha
09-19-2013, 11:54 AM
I started lvl 49, and lvl 18 boss is already over 400k (i'm doing 79501 dmg). I thought someone said the hp growth slows down (about +30k per boss right now)? Billionaire's guide shows 460k hp for boss 50 for tier 2... I think now boss 50 in tier 2 will be like 1 mil. Anyone else in tier2 can provide info?

Im at lvl 28 now in tier2. I attack the boss with 185k raw and i need 5 hits to take him out. So the boss is something like 900k

gold member
09-19-2013, 05:59 PM
Tier 1 lvl 16 boss
Character level :7
Total start boss xp: 359
Total xp after boss: 391
Xp gain from boss 32
Raw attack score:15386
Cash hits
Total 5 last had 1-2k hp left
Boss health under 65k
Prize Uncommon:clouts gas

Tier 2 lvl 22 boss
Character level :49
xp gain was under 50
Raw attack score:97k
Cash hits:7
Boss health under 650k




I mainly use cash hits to move faster
lvl (55)
free hit damage (--)
cash hit damage (-202,387-)

lvl 1 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 2 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 3 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 4 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 5 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 6 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 7 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 8 free hit (--) cash hit (-1-)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 11 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (-2-)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)

*Add 8k stat syndicate reward: new cash hit damage 211,025*

lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (-3-)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (-4-)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (-4-)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (-5-)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (-5-)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)

gold member
09-19-2013, 06:31 PM
Tier 1 lvl 30 boss
Character level :23
Raw attack score: 51605
Cash hits: 5
Boss health under: 225k
goal prize for 30: corrupt boss blade, item: melee: attack/defense 800/900
Prize common: rifle 150 attack


copy and paste for damage calulator
lvl (you at )

free hit damage (--)

lvl 1 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 2 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 3 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 4 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 5 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 6 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 7 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 8 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 9 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 11 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)free hit damage (--)cash hit damage (--)

gold member
09-19-2013, 07:16 PM
lvl 17 boss
player lvl 7 (xp 396)
final xp:429
total xp gain: 33
raw attack 15566x 5 cash hits
boss health under 77k
item klouts ak



lvl (88 )
free hit damage (133885)
cash hit damage (207262)

lvl 1 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 2 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 3 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 4 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 5 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 6 free hit (1) cash hit (--)
lvl 7 free hit (2) cash hit (--)
lvl 8 free hit (1) cash hit (1)
lvl 9 free hit (1) cash hit (1)
lvl 10 free hit (--) cash hit (2) barely killed
lvl 11 free hit (1) cash hit (3)
lvl 12 free hit (--) cash hit (3)
lvl 13 free hit (--) cash hit (3)
lvl 14 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 15 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 16 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 17 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 18 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 19 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 20 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 21 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 22 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 23 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 24 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 25 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 26 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 27 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 28 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 29 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 30 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 31 free hit (--) cash hit (--)
lvl 32 free hit (--) cash hit (--)

Thethreefires
09-19-2013, 07:44 PM
For tier one it starts out at about 3x as strong but only becomes normal again after the early 20's tested with my camper account it seems may be entirely wrong though

gold member
09-19-2013, 08:21 PM
tier 1 lvl 31 boss
raw atk: 52355
lvl 23 account
xp start:7528
xp finish:7590
total xp gain: 63
hits req: 5
boss health <225k
prize: Klouts poison

Tier 1 lvl 30 boss
Character level :23
Raw attack score: 51605
Cash hits: 5
Boss health under: 225k
goal prize for 30: corrupt boss blade, item: melee: attack/defense 800/900
Prize common: rifle 150 attack

gold member
09-19-2013, 08:26 PM
7 cash hits of 100k raw attack. lvl 49 account tier 2 boss # 23
boss health <700k

tier 1 lvl 31 boss
raw atk: 52355
lvl 23 account
xp start:7528
xp finish:7590
total xp gain: 63
hits req: 5
boss health <225k
prize: Klouts poison

zwiswoo
09-20-2013, 07:58 AM
For me on tier 4, the boss health was about 3x of the old one through level ~45. Since then it's been creeping up though. My raw attack is about 450k, and the 49th one took 17 hits (just a wee bit over 16).

For boss #50 I have exact info ->
Attack 456776, 17 hits

Has anyone reading gone much deeper (in tier 4)? Trying to figure out what's coming up!

bald zeemer
09-20-2013, 08:25 AM
My notes from hyman schwartz shows tier 2 boss 18 at 60k and now it is 400k. Thats 6-7x! Am I missing something because that is pretty ridiculous.

Tier 1-4 bosses were clearly heavily underpowered. Gree seems to have aligned boss HP with the actual stats that players at that level have. Which is why tiers 1-4 increased boss HP and tier 5 reduced it.

MuMiX
09-20-2013, 08:52 AM
Someone said they thought this was an anti-camping strategy but really those that were campers can get farther in this harder boss event and thus stay ahead of the curve. Those of us that are fairly new to the game are the ones who seem to get screwed. Oh well, luckily the syndicate goals are providing nice stats which encourage players to participate in syndicates.

warrends
09-20-2013, 10:36 AM
Level: 18 --> 19
Initial total/cash attack: about 32K
Current (as of boss 31) total/cash attack: about 42K, including my syn getting the 8k/8k explosive loot as seen below

Honestly I don't remember the specifics below boss 25 or so, but these are good guesses, so numbers of hits are all guesses. And like someone said above, I use cash hits now just to make things go faster. $200 x 5 or 6 or 7 is nothing when you've got $1M in your pocket.

lvl 1 free hit (1)
lvl 2 free hit (1)
lvl 3 free hit (1)
lvl 4 free hit (1)
lvl 5 free hit (1)
lvl 6 free hit (1)
lvl 7 free hit (1)
lvl 8 free hit (1)
- Somewhere around here I had to start 2-hitting
lvl 9 cash hit (2)
lvl 10 cash hit (2)
lvl 11 cash hit (2)
lvl 12 cash hit (2)
lvl 13 cash hit (2)
lvl 14 cash hit (3)
lvl 15 cash hit (3)
lvl 16 cash hit (3) guessing
lvl 17 cash hit (3)
lvl 18 cash hit (3)
lvl 19 cash hit (3)
lvl 20 cash hit (3)
lvl 21 cash hit (4)
lvl 22 cash hit (4)
lvl 23 cash hit (4)
- Somewhere around here my syn got the 8k/8k loot
lvl 24 free hit (1) cash hit (3)
lvl 25 free hit (1) cash hit (3) guessing
lvl 26 cash hit (4)
lvl 27 cash hit (5)
lvl 28 cash hit (5)
lvl 29 cash hit (6)
- Attack now around 42K, but cash hitting at ~39.6K due to syn bonuses not being included when hitting bosses (which sucks but is good to know)
lvl 30 cash hit (7)
lvl 31 cash hit (7)
lvl 32 cash hit (--)

To be continued ...

Edit:
Done with the boss.
Still in tier 1 (level 21).
Got to boss 45.
Stats skyrocketed to around 53/62 or so.
Boss 45 took 9, maybe 10, cash hits for me I believe.

Stopped here for three reasons:
1) I don't think I can do boss 50.
2) I don't have the time. It ends tonight.
3) I did want to get as much in as possible because I think the upcoming SLTQ will level me up past 25 and into boss tier 2. But the SLTQ loot should be amazing for me. Just hoping I'm a high enough level to be able to help my syn.

Yowzuh
09-20-2013, 02:24 PM
Not the same format, but here's what I've got:
4424

Puts this Boss about 2.6x the old Tier 4 boss.

ogel45
09-20-2013, 08:03 PM
There is something different going on other than a simple shift up. My lower levels got harder much quicker but now in the mid-upper 20s the curve has flattened dramatically. I could only get to boss 27 last time and it took 12 hits. This time lev 23-27 have taken 7 hits each. I have more attack than last time but nothing to cause this behavior.

bald zeemer
09-20-2013, 08:18 PM
The increase is more gradual because it occurs over 100 bosses. Also your higher attack means that dHP/atk is a lower figure than previously, hence number of atks increases more slowly.

SC4R
09-21-2013, 12:35 AM
Here are my observations for tier 2 & tier 3.
Using the old table BM posted. If you're Tier 2 then take the boss health from Tier 2 multiply by 3.
example: Tier 2 boss #20. New boss health = Old Tier 3 #20 times 2 (180000x2) = 360,000.

Ak Killah
09-22-2013, 02:16 AM
Boss hp for tier 4 and 5 are pretty much the same. I disagree with this change

gunny22
09-22-2013, 02:25 AM
My mini is L24 starting at -28xxx all instant kills (always "Force Attack" =money option)

L6 -28811 x1
L7 -28883 x1
L8 -29063 x1
just hit L25.
I'm stopping here, going to wait for another old-style 40/50 boss where I DO have a chance to get to the end (without using money).

bald zeemer
09-22-2013, 02:54 AM
Boss hp for tier 4 and 5 are pretty much the same. I disagree with this change

So what you're saying is that there is now no longer a massive penalty for hitting L101? How is this a bad thing?

bald zeemer
09-22-2013, 03:10 AM
Ok, some observations (for tier 5).

1. In the 'mid-span', approx boss 30-75, boss health appears to increase by 250k per boss
2. Boss 100 is likely 96m HP. It is between 95.0 and 96.5.
3. There is a big jump in boss HP at least twice, one of which is for boss 100 (and the jump is over 20m HP for this one).
4. 10m HP occurs in vicinity of boss 50.

If people can supply info on specific data points in this mid-span it'd be enormously handy. Getting exact boss health prior to the jump should be easy. Datapoints in the 80-98 range will be very helpful for identifying when the jump occurs, and whether it is a 1-off jump, an increase in the dHP, or some combination of both. Or if there is more than 1 additional jump.

crazyman1
09-22-2013, 12:09 PM
know in modern walfare the last boss has a super jump just so you can not reach it except the gold spenders

abstraxlim
09-24-2013, 12:01 AM
any1 has info for tier 4 boss lvl 80 to 100?

The Real Bosses
09-24-2013, 02:52 AM
Im lvl 240
i killed lvl 40 boss with 12 hit.. Dint use gold... Each hit deal a damage of 506k. So lvl 40 boss is around 6000000 health.

Lvl 41 down... With 13 free hits (no gold use). 508k damage deal per hit... Boss health around 6500000

Lvl 42 down with 14 hit used gold.. Damage per hit 509k

Lvl 43 down with 14 hit use gold... Damage per hit 509k

The Real Bosses
09-24-2013, 05:11 AM
Im lvl 240
i killed lvl 40 boss with 12 hit.. Dint use gold... Each hit deal a damage of 506k. So lvl 40 boss is around 6000000 health.

Lvl 41 down... With 13 free hits (no gold use). 508k damage deal per hit... Boss health around 6500000

Lvl 42 down with 14 hit used gold.. Damage per hit 509k

Lvl 43 down with 14 hit use gold... Damage per hit 509k

Lvl 44 down with 15 hits... Damage per hit 510k

Intrance
09-24-2013, 09:34 AM
Tier 4
Raw att started 450k ended 620k
Lv 50 to 55 avg 17.4 hits
Lv 56 to 60 avg 20.4 hits
Lv 61 to 65 avg 22.8 hits
Lv 66 to 70 avg 25.2 hits
Lv 71 to 75 avg 28.8 hits
Lv 76 to 80 avg 31.2 hits
Lv 81 to 85 avg 35.2 hits
Lv 86 to 90 avg 39.6 hits
Lv 91 to 95 avg 42.6 hits
Lv 96 to 100 avg 46.2 hits

Note that my att kept increasing so need to be taken account. I only collected approximate data every 5 lvs but I hope this helps

abstraxlim
09-24-2013, 12:02 PM
Tier 4
Raw att started 450k ended 620k
Lv 50 to 55 avg 17.4 hits
Lv 56 to 60 avg 20.4 hits
Lv 61 to 65 avg 22.8 hits
Lv 66 to 70 avg 25.2 hits
Lv 71 to 75 avg 28.8 hits
Lv 76 to 80 avg 31.2 hits
Lv 81 to 85 avg 35.2 hits
Lv 86 to 90 avg 39.6 hits
Lv 91 to 95 avg 42.6 hits
Lv 96 to 100 avg 46.2 hits

Note that my att kept increasing so need to be taken account. I only collected approximate data every 5 lvs but I hope this helps


based on ur info.....lvl 100 boss has estimated 30mil hp...for tier 4.

Intrance
09-24-2013, 01:39 PM
based on ur info.....lvl 100 boss has estimated 30mil hp...for tier 4.

Didnt get to look at my data carefully but it seems tier 4 and tier 5 starts off fairly close. Based on BZ's claim that tier 5 boss 100 has 95m hp it seems tier 5 gets tougher real fast at higher lvs

The show off
09-24-2013, 03:25 PM
Thanks for the chart!

abstraxlim
09-25-2013, 01:54 AM
Didnt get to look at my data carefully but it seems tier 4 and tier 5 starts off fairly close. Based on BZ's claim that tier 5 boss 100 has 95m hp it seems tier 5 gets tougher real fast at higher lvs

its confirmed tier 4 last boss is ard 30mil...coz it took me 280gold to finish it at 362k raw att.

I feel lucky i am in tier 4 in this boss event. If I in tier 5 with my raw att..i will need more gold to finish it.....lol