[Guild Wars iOS] Battle of the Beasts

[The Wise One]

The 3-day Guild War Battle of the Beasts has begun! Does your guild have what it takes to come out on top!?

[Discuss] Battle of the Beasts (http://www.funzio.com/forum/showthread.php?67857-Guild-Wars-Android-Battle-of-the-Beasts)


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Good Luck!

[cafedecoy]

so far so good!

[Musketeer]

ditto, we got a matchup fairly quickly, and no crashes. Fingers crossed.

[knights]

playing smoothly. Thanks for fixing everything!

[JonS52]

Are Guardians no longer dropping fusion armors when killed?

[DarkVoltz]

Are Guardians no longer dropping fusion armors when killed?
was just gonna ask that

[cafedecoy]

I noticed that too. No fusion boost armors from guardians. Why are we fighting them again?

[JonS52]

Guess the only reward is boosting the amount of War Points you get. This is a bogus move IMHO. (Now let's see how long it takes for someone in the rich gem spending elite to chime in with "Well, it's just leveling things out, the game was overbalanced with fusion armors being dropped so frequently.")

[The Pale Rider]

Lots of changes:

No guardian fusion drops
No level up recharge
Guardian power is through the roof
10 gems to recharge

Biggest change is with sentinel. Seems it can be team killed now. Like a guardian. What's the deal? Why ever use a max attack then (just use the amount you need no more). Someone explain new sentinel system please.

[Sifu]

I got a fusion boost for "doing the most damage to the guardian of the last opponent". I don't think it works as an immediate reward or for the killing blow now. It is based off of the most damage done and rewards a little later.

[cafedecoy]

no, the fusion boost armor reward is no longer working. Really, why are we doing this?

[JonS52]

Also, as noted in another thread, you don't have the option to change your lineup/armors when you attack the Guardian. Workaround is to click to attack another opponent, adjust armors, then back out using the red X top right, and then attack the Guardian.

[The Pale Rider]

Seems its any 5 losing attacks takes out a sentinel. That was best aspect if game structure IMO. Better fix would've been to reduce sentinels bonus (which each attack does now). But still require that somebody beat him. Max attacks are just stupid now. So are gate attacks.

[JonS52]

Seems its any 5 losing attacks takes out a sentinel. That was best aspect if game structure IMO. Better fix would've been to reduce sentinels bonus (which each attack does now). But still require that somebody beat him. Max attacks are just stupid now. So are gate attacks.

I suspect that the Sentinel's longevity is based on relative strengths. If a really strong knight attacks a weak Sentinel, the Sentinel might die in one attack, while a really strong Sentinel would last a while against weak attackers.

[Edicius]

Seems its any 5 losing attacks takes out a sentinel. That was best aspect if game structure IMO. Better fix would've been to reduce sentinels bonus (which each attack does now). But still require that somebody beat him. Max attacks are just stupid now. So are gate attacks.

Every attack reduces the sentinels armor by 5%. The 6th failed attack removes the sentinel.

[JMFL]

Gree sure does know how to mess up a game, power attacked a guardian, got 59 points, regular attacked same guardian and got 57 points....this sucks big time.

[geo81]

Hmmm this is kind of a let down. The best prize most guilds got from these wars were the fusion armors. I mean I really could care less about the actual prizes(other than the ones I won't pay for to get, obviously)

[The Pale Rider]

We're just finishing our 4th war and in all 4 wars the other guild had just one active guy (out if 24-30 players). That one guy pumped in 120+ gems and beat our guild with 10 players using 4 blocks each. It's not much if a game if a coordinated team all playing can't beat 1 guy willing to pay 15 bucks to GREE every battle.

It's greatly exacerbated by dropping recharge from 15 to 10. Discounting gems 30% and removing free gems.

Basically it's buy gems of lose. Even if you win every fight. Just not much fun this way.

[cafedecoy]

Hmmm this is kind of a let down. The best prize most guilds got from these wars were the fusion armors. I mean I really could care less about the actual prizes(other than the ones I won't pay for to get, obviously)

agreed. Seems like a waste of time play the game now. Very disappointed

[geo81]

Oh well this war is lame, I'm gonna go drinking

[JMFL]

Agree, and battling a team that is more than 1000 positions higher is a joke, where is the gamesmanship there? This game has taken a downward spiral for me. Does anyone remember the first war where you were supposed to get a special attack the next attack if you defeated an enemy with a special attack? My inquiry into this got a response from tech support was that it was "working as it should" and an inquiry message to The Wise One went unanswered. Lets face it they are only in it for the money, they don't really care about the game.





We're just finishing our 4th war and in all 4 wars the other guild had just one active guy (out if 24-30 players). That one guy pumped in 120+ gems and beat our guild with 10 players using 4 blocks each. It's not much if a game if a coordinated team all playing can't beat 1 guy willing to pay 15 bucks to GREE every battle.

It's greatly exacerbated by dropping recharge from 15 to 10. Discounting gems 30% and removing free gems.

Basically it's buy gems of lose. Even if you win every fight. Just not much fun this way.

[Joshx135]

Agree, and battling a team that is more than 1000 positions higher is a joke, where is the gamesmanship there? This game has taken a downward spiral for me. Does anyone remember the first war where you were supposed to get a special attack the next attack if you defeated an enemy with a special attack? My inquiry into this got a response from tech support was that it was "working as it should" and an inquiry message to The Wise One went unanswered. Lets face it they are only in it for the money, they don't really care about the game.

You just described many of the companies running micro transaction games. Although by now the transactions havent been very small.

[levilee]

after the new update in the appstore, everytime i encounter the epic boss my knights and dragon crash. happen almost everytime. Tried delete and reinstall the 1st time, Now everytime i click arena i crash. Tried delete reinstall 2nd time, start knights and dragon ... news pop up 5 sec later whole game crash. tried to go in atleast 10times same thing happens. tried delete and reinstall the 3rd time, at a friend house wifi, wow i can go in knights and dragon without crashing but my guild war button is completely gone, im in a different dimension. no guild war for me? im the guild master apparently after this war every member in my guild is gonna leave the guild cos im a guild master that cant go to war. Please fix it ! already sent a ticket.

[Lord Ash]

Well Im enjoying myself ... But yes there are many problems with the war battle system for sure... Even if it was like the arena with Double downs and removing players you had already beat once that would be better than this all out farm fest we have going on now... Have fun guys

[JMFL]

No need to worry about how generous Gree was dropping the cost of the recharge form 15 to 10, it's only a temporary sale.



We're just finishing our 4th war and in all 4 wars the other guild had just one active guy (out if 24-30 players). That one guy pumped in 120+ gems and beat our guild with 10 players using 4 blocks each. It's not much if a game if a coordinated team all playing can't beat 1 guy willing to pay 15 bucks to GREE every battle.

It's greatly exacerbated by dropping recharge from 15 to 10. Discounting gems 30% and removing free gems.

Basically it's buy gems of lose. Even if you win every fight. Just not much fun this way.

[White Avenger]

Why is ribbon D better than ribbon B and C.

The plus version armor of D is better the regular version they are giving for b an c.


Change of Subject

This game has nothing to do with skill, coordination, leadership and only about how much you spend to be the best in everything. Including guild battles. The guild battle is a new way to have the deep pockets to spend more money. Unless they going to offer some type of subscription to the player base they WILL always cater to the players that spend money.

If you want more equality you need to push for a limited subscription for hard core players then you will have a voice.

Until then expect to lose if you don't spend money. I'm not trying to be mean... I'm just shinning a spot light on what is happening here.

Take care

[KOA]

Facing the same guild 4 out of the last 8 battles. Randomize much?

[The Pale Rider]

Money wins, I get that. But that doesn't mean wars couldn't be tweaked to be more fun and challenging.

For example, a bunch of players rush the guardian at start if war to get the fusion. Each of them kills the guardian in one battle - only one gets a fusion and everyone loses an energy block. Gotta be a better result than that.

Sentinel should have to be actually beaten. I'm fine with reducing bonus for each failed attack, but this is just a speed bump now as opposed to a real challenge (why EVER use max?).

Why ever attack gate?

I like the idea of forcing each player to only attack each guy once. Once all attacked it resets. Or cut rewards dramatically for each attack on same guy after first one.

Let people change Armor on guardian the way they do on p to p fights.

Not a guild war change but can we get the friend clock on left side - I have to download 9 friend screens to see how much time is left.

[JMFL]

Another well matched battle, we're ranked 1300, opponent is ranked 99, even with us spending gems they are double our score, so why bother using gems? Is this the way it is in other games with guild battles?

[TheStig]

Now i Got one fusion boost armor , first time in the war, apparently they downed the reward from two to one.

BUT I should have received from Two other guardians. Lost in cyberspace Forever ? Or Will it come at a alter time.

My guild chat is not Working either. So ROM for improvement

IGN. Stig

[Tachycardia]

Well Im enjoying myself ... But yes there are many problems with the war battle system for sure... Even if it was like the arena with Double downs and removing players you had already beat once that would be better than this all out farm fest we have going on now... Have fun guys

Agreed, It's a good time but there are a couple of clans we keep getting and it's not much fun.

Also, as much as it pains me to say it, you guys were the best we faced by far and I wish you luck in securing number 1

[-Solo-]

Android here.

We've gotten the same 4 guilds our last 10 wars. As much as I like not having to scout and beat the same punching bags, not much of a war if we aren't matched against other guilds.

[Tachycardia]

We have had Dark Prince Alliance 6 times

The match making system is fairly flawed, but it seems to get a little better every war.

[overcire]

Hello. Android player here. I am curious how many points the top guilds have in your race. We have one guild with 2m+ and three with 1m+. So, how much more expensive is the forsaken armour on ios?

[Zodog]

Hello. Android player here. I am curious how many points the top guilds have in your race. We have one guild with 2m+ and three with 1m+. So, how much more expensive is the forsaken armour on ios?

#1 7.5mil
#2 6.2mil
#3. 3mil

[Tachycardia]

http://i.imgur.com/StXnOdyl.jpg

[Zodog]

Sorry I stopped at 3rd, you Koyo guys put up a good fight, didn't mean to leave you out :)
And a screenshot was a good idea lol, don't know what I was thinking.

[Alexa]

It would be nice if Gree had like a limit as to how many times you can refill in a battle...

Some guilds in the top 10 are weak, but they are damn rich, so I feel like those are just bribing their spots.

It's just my opinion.

We've been matched with many top 10's and the guildmen have like average armours everyone can beat, but then they spend gems like crazy, therefore the win was awarded to them...

[Tachycardia]

Sorry I stopped at 3rd, you Koyo guys put up a good fight, didn't mean to leave you out :)
And a screenshot was a good idea lol, don't know what I was thinking.

lol no worries.

There is a big step up between 4th and top 3.
We are still growing and finding active players.

RR is currently raping us, but on the bright side I just scored Maelstrom Irons

[Tachycardia]

It would be nice if Gree had like a limit as to how many times you can refill in a battle...

Some guilds in the top 10 are weak, but they are damn rich, so I feel like those are just bribing their spots.

It's just my opinion.

We've been matched with many top 10's and the guildmen have like average armours everyone can beat, but then they spend gems like crazy, therefore the win was awarded to them...

Thats how it will always be

All things equal, it will be gems that decide the battle.

I miss the days where skill and ability won video games

[knights]

Looks like RR is pulling away from UN a bit... but lesson from the last mini war... don't count UN out until the last battle is over...

[AutoGun]

Truly not what I expected after taking forever on the strong arse guardian I get....NOTHING...???

Wasn't expecting that or the no kill Sentinel trick! Love the way they advertised those changes...oh wait they didn't!! Oh we'll I am still trying for the prize before the last so my kids can get a free Sky Guardian even if not the plus version.

[Tachycardia]

Who need a hug?


C'mere

[F@ck Gree]

Thats how it will always be

All things equal, it will be gems that decide the battle.

I miss the days where skill and ability won video games

Guild Wars = Team Auction

[possum]

Gree is doing it again: squeezing. Milking the top for all they are worth. It's like they have a play book and they're executing it out TO A T.

I have a vision in my head of Gree's managers, whipping their employees, screaming at them, "MORE! MORE!"

Forget tomorrow, milk them all now and sure enough, there's always people with more money than sense.

[Musketeer]

Thats how it will always be

All things equal, it will be gems that decide the battle.

I miss the days where skill and ability won video games

If you don't have a BK+ or an epic armor, the war is very tough.

BK+ and scouting beats epic and two legendaries, or BK+ plus two legendaries. If the opponent has BK+ AND and Epic armor, or two epic armors, then I can't beat them with just BK_+ and legendaries anymore.

The Guilds in the top ten will get their epic reward which helps them pull away from the rest, as no Legendary is going to match up any more. Thus this War's top ten are most likely to be the top ten forever, unless other Guilds can outspend them to a top ten slot, or enough of their players luck out in the gamble boxes with Epics.

I was going to keep playing until I'd completed my circle of Legendary armors from Epic Bosses, but why bother now? They won't help me in PvP anyway, either War or Arena, if the opponent has Epic armors.

I'll keep fighting through this war and supporting my Guild, but I think after this weekend it's time to find a more enjoyable and cheaper passtime.

[Lieda]

Well, i guess me and my guild members will be just fine with ribbon C rewards, we dont bleed money like some wich ill not point out do. I hate gree moneymaking politics, this guild war is all about a money sink... I dont even know why its called war, should be Guild bidding. Carry on though, i do what i can, ive purchased this month enough for 11 mael chests and guess what, yes, only got crap, the chances are so retarded low... Id try again next month, likely. But ive seen so many people raging because of their thousands spent for getting nothing in return, were i like them, id quit this game. The only way I see for this to change is just so people stop spending loads of money, something would surely happen, but they wont... Sheeps are always going to be sheeps.

Gree, why dont you just sell stuff away... Take our money but at least make us happy for the while. This guild war is a joke, Its me fighting hard for my rewards... Not my credit card... And by being so... I never had a chance.

[JMFL]

Well put Leida






Well, i guess me and my guild members will be just fine with ribbon C rewards, we dont bleed money like some wich ill not point out do. I hate gree moneymaking politics, this guild was is all about a money sink... I dont even know why its called war, should be Guild bidding. Carry on though, i do what i can, ive purchased this month enough for 11 mael chests and guess what, yes, only got crap, the chances are so retarded low... Id try again next month, likely. But ive seen so many people raging because of their thousand spents for getting nothing in return were i like then, id quit this game. The only way see for this to change is just so people stop spending loads of money, something would surely happen, but they wont... Sheeps are always going to be sheeps.

Gree, why dont you just sell stuff away... Take our money but at least make us happy for the while. This guild war is a joke, Its me fighting hard for my rewards... Not my credit card... And by being so... I never had a chance.

[Dedi89]

Well, i guess me and my guild members will be just fine with ribbon C rewards, we dont bleed money like some wich ill not point out do. I hate gree moneymaking politics, this guild war is all about a money sink... I dont even know why its called war, should be Guild bidding. Carry on though, i do what i can, ive purchased this month enough for 11 mael chests and guess what, yes, only got crap, the chances are so retarded low... Id try again next month, likely. But ive seen so many people raging because of their thousands spent for getting nothing in return, were i like them, id quit this game. The only way I see for this to change is just so people stop spending loads of money, something would surely happen, but they wont... Sheeps are always going to be sheeps.

Gree, why dont you just sell stuff away... Take our money but at least make us happy for the while. This guild war is a joke, Its me fighting hard for my rewards... Not my credit card... And by being so... I never had a chance.


Well said . Same things happened to me . Bought 4 (800 gems set) in hope to get the epic armor but nothing
Just a **** load of crap armors . Seriously Gree??)

[busteroaf]

And in other news:

People complain about the game... More to come at midnight!

[The Pale Rider]

The Pale Riders started around #100 and have been steadily climbing without buying gems. We are all active and have good dispersion around globe for 24hr wars. Sure we use gems as they come in from vids and such, but no one is spending real money (or at least not more than a few bucks, i.e. I haven't seen anyone in guild use more than 30 gems in a battle - usually no one uses any). Some of the gem buying guilds we faced early who were dropping a couple of hundred gems in the fight fell in the reankings, while we've steadily climbed. Now were around #60 and can't climb much higher. Top 50 is just not attainable without spending cash. So adjust your expectations and declare victory as being the best of the non-gem buying guilds.

War was a lot of fun. Had a lot of frenzy where the more active guild pulled away. Lost about 20% of fights. Mostly good match-ups, almost no duplication. GREE got a lot right - a few more tweaks and it would be a lot more fun.

[Bearsuo]

If you don't have a BK+ or an epic armor, the war is very tough.

BK+ and scouting beats epic and two legendaries, or BK+ plus two legendaries. If the opponent has BK+ AND and Epic armor, or two epic armors, then I can't beat them with just BK_+ and legendaries anymore.

The Guilds in the top ten will get their epic reward which helps them pull away from the rest, as no Legendary is going to match up any more. Thus this War's top ten are most likely to be the top ten forever, unless other Guilds can outspend them to a top ten slot, or enough of their players luck out in the gamble boxes with Epics.

I was going to keep playing until I'd completed my circle of Legendary armors from Epic Bosses, but why bother now? They won't help me in PvP anyway, either War or Arena, if the opponent has Epic armors.

I'll keep fighting through this war and supporting my Guild, but I think after this weekend it's time to find a more enjoyable and cheaper passtime.

An understandable shame, you are the rare breed of insightful and interesting poster.

[Unresolved]

Thank you Cent Academy, Point Blank, and WAR for a very interesting final race to rank 9/10/11.

[knights]

Pretty epic final run up for top-10 spots... Koyo got booted out within 2 hrs from #6 to #11... ouch!

[Hakurou]

Took a sh**load of gems to get in Bronze...and i wont even bother thinking about how much more the Top3 guilds spent. Anyways kudos to places 5-11, was a very close and entertaining race this last 3h!

[hoopsnajk]

It was intense !

[bobeth]

gratz to RR and the rest of the top 10! great wars everyone :)

[Miyabi]

Last match watching placing #6,7,8,9,10,11 was way too exciting!

[KayOrzz]

Last match watching placing #6,7,8,9,10,11 was way too exciting!

got kelong also kekeke, i won a bet! woohoo

[Tachycardia]

Pretty epic final run up for top-10 spots... Koyo got booted out within 2 hrs from #6 to #11... ouch!

Just didn't have the support in the final hours.

[The Pale Rider]

Just didn't have the support in the final hours.

Were you time shafted? Middle of the night for too many members?

[Tachycardia]

Were you time shafted? Middle of the night for too many members?

Not really sure, the biggest issue was an HC declaring war too early which really boned our strategy.

No worries, lesson learned and we will adjust next war

[GCSpyder]

Not really sure, the biggest issue was an HC declaring war too early which really boned our strategy.

No worries, lesson learned and we will adjust next war

That's the spirit! There is always another war to fight. Keep your fighters well.

[paganizer]

It was sure a kick in the ***** after being 4th for most of the war, and just watching us drop to 11th in the last few minutes, because someone declared war too early for the last fight.

[Wetchie]

Too bad for the Guild members of Koyo! You guys were so close!

[Wetchie]

Thank you Cent Academy, Point Blank, and WAR for a very interesting final race to rank 9/10/11.

It was an awesome last two hours! Thnx for the mention! We loved battleling you guys and we would take you on in the next Guild WARs.

[EljayK]

We never got to battle Dark Prince Alliance. I was really hoping to see what they could do after our great battles with Point Blank and Airblade.

-KoF

[Angel of Death]

Rank 11 and 12 had a huge diffirence in war points, feel bad for KOYO suddenly booted out of top 10 on the last day of war. And we apologize to centurions, only if we've seen that you are close to dethroning RR we could have given you frenzy..

[gardibolt]

It was a nail-biter for 25 too; small spread of a battle or so between 20 and 26. We were at 19 with 20 minutes to go and although we sank a couple spots it was a huge relief to see a few teams get locked for points below us.

[cafedecoy]

4401
So GREE when am I getting my "extra reward" for defeating the guardians? You promised in your own rules section. I expect delivery!

Clarification: in several battles, I have inflicted the greatest damage, or was the sole defeater of the guardian. No reward

[knights]

4401
So GREE when am I getting my "extra reward" for defeating the guardian? You promised in your own rules section. I expect delivery!

Did u inflict the most damage? That seems to be the requirement.

[cafedecoy]

YES. Either that, or I've killed them off completely on my own.

[Gaia]

I didn't get any fusions either when I defeated guardians. I don't think anyone else from my guild did either.

[The Pale Rider]

I solo killed or delivered the most damage about 15 times and received two fusion armors. When I got the armor it was immediately after killing the guardian and a pop-up alerted me. I get the feeling delivering the most damage entitles you to a chance at an armor.

Other possibilities:
- The guardian must be at or above a certain level
- Another member must also hit the guardian (so you delivered most but not all)
- Another member must also hit the guardian and you must deliver the most damage and you must kill the guardian (last blow)
- It's a glitch and you're supposed to get it everytime but for some reason you don't

I wrote to GREE twice during GW to request armor but got no response.