[Guild Wars Android] Battle of the Beasts

[The Wise One]

The Battle of the Beasts has begun! Does your guild have what it takes to come out on top!?


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Good Luck!

[F@ck Gree]

lucky us. we are against a 3 man guild with level 1 guardian. HAHAHA. free win. not wasting energy. saving it for next one.
changed tactics. if we beat their guardians, we get more points

[F@ck Gree]

lucky us. we are against a 3 man guild with level 1 guardian. HAHAHA. free win. not wasting energy. saving it for next one

android btw. 25vs3

[madfighters]

I was changing sentinel s and then the war started and we have no sentinel
what do I do

[Rended]

...When you hear the thunderous hooves...

Run...

For no man can withstand their power

[busteroaf]

...When you hear the thunderous hooves...

Run...

For no man can withstand their power

You had me scared for a second. Then I saw your Washington Crapitals Avatar...

[cafedecoy]

I killed the guardian, and I'm not getting the fusion boost armors. Has the rule been changed, or is this a bug?

[F@ck Gree]

Gree failed in making rewards system.
Guardians Battlegear non+ total stats = 2293 Ribbon C. 51-100
Sky Guardian+ total stats = 2353 Ribbon D. 101-250

[ZERO_07]

android btw. 25vs3
Try 39 vs 2. Such a waste of time...

[F@ck Gree]

Try 39 vs 2. Such a waste of time...
wait. you get paired up with a 2 man guild? WTF

[drygores]

I love war time! Glad my guild, team awesome, can actually compete this time. Props to majestic, cant imagine the amount of money you have already spent as a team! yikes:p

[The Pale Rider]

The iOS war is starting in 10 minutes. We finished the first war at 59 and got combustion and 2 sky+. All 3 of those armors are better than what you get for finishing 25-50 in this war. Maybe we'll make top 25 but I doubt it as power has consolidated among the largest guilds. So what's the point? We love to play and we'll try and go far. But it's for bragging rights not rewards. I can't see myself buying gems to win battles here. It's not even worth it to use the free ones.

1-2 fusion armor from a 3 day war if you're top 100? We got 9 fusion for finishing top 100 in a 4 hour war. You got 2 fusion for killing a guardian for g-d's sake. This is so ridiculously low.

A beast key. Again you get that for beating a boss 15 times. It's basically a throw away.

20-30 gems - This won't replace what you'd have to spend to earn it.

GREE's goal has to be to incentivize players to play and buy gems. Offering better armor and fusion armor works. It just doesn't make sense to me. The incentives seem way off.

[Lacerator]

Has the recharging of war energy upon leveling been removed? Or is that another bug?

[-Solo-]

Guilds with 41 element bonus *cough* Forsaken. Good job abusing a glitch.

Have to throw that out there.

[iH8t2lose2]

Rank 260 against rank 10, why cant we go against some 2 person guild?

[iH8t2lose2]

Rank 260 against rank 10, why cant we go against some 2 person guild?
I have a LG optimus G, how would I increase the screen rez for attachments?

[-Solo-]

You don't want to go vs a 2 person guild. They yield you no points.

[blackheart5]

I find forsakens jump insane where the hell did that come from....also dk isn't in the top 10 no gem spending I assume

[ZERO_07]

Guilds with 41 element bonus *cough* Forsaken. Good job abusing a glitch.

Have to throw that out there.

Come on Gree, it's bad enough that you're not doing anything about the hackers, now there is a guild that is exploiting a glitch to give them an unfair advantage. No guild even comes close to having 41 element bonuses, especially one that is only Level 45...

[The Wise One]

Come on Gree, it's bad enough that you're not doing anything about the hackers, now there is a guild that is exploiting a glitch to give them an unfair advantage. No guild even comes close to having 41 element bonuses, especially one that is only Level 45...

Looking into it, we'll take appropriate actions.

[Edwinz]

Erm previous war once defeat enemy guardian will receive a fusion boost armor. Now this war once defeat doesn't receive fusion boost armor, so is it been change or isit bug?

[Tvidgmfrks]

Halfway into my fourth fight I find doing a regular attack takes half of my energy bar. Anyone else running into this? Gotta say I could have really used the energy after refilling to win a tough fight, got two attacks out of instead of four. Possible glitch caused my guild to lose the battle, hope this isn't consistent for the rest of the war!!!

[-Solo-]

Looking into it, we'll take appropriate actions.

Somewhat hard to believe when I reported a video of Heliax with his infinite DPCs/Limited Chests keys and he STILL hasn't been banned.

[Joshx135]

Somewhat hard to believe when I reported a video of Heliax with his infinite DPCs and he STILL hasn't been banned.

I also did the same thing. All you had to do was watch 30 seconds of the video and there's your proof.

[inkjets]

Looking into it, we'll take appropriate actions.

Wise One, and Android players. I am the recruiter and 2nd in command for Forsaken. Today, I wake up, excited for guild wars. I find out somehow a player did glitch the Bonuses. Our originals were Everything 5% and Earth 6%. I believe I booted the person responsible but I cant be sure. Please contact me with any questions. I want this fixed too. We are not cheaters and I enjoy this game. Hell, I just dropped $100 bucks yesterday so I could gem in battles.

All I know is that it also screwed up some of our armors ability to even hit... When 2 certain elements are part of an armor. Not going to say because we have at least 30 our members who are honest and many of which purchased gems for the war. Don't want to hurt them further. Fact is, about 1/3 o our armors aren't even working and that's the truth. Someone F**** us up from the inside. Many of our players don't use epics and have had to scramble to assure we all have 3 armors that can work together. We are simply well coordinated and play hard. Many of us use gems for points. Hope this helps. I would like to get to the bottom of it as well.

[Rafa]

@ Forsaken :

I am not sure how you can have this happen in your guild and nobody stand up right as they see the glitch going on. I will assume nobody was online, but honestly, when I fought you I actually lost to some guys really poorly geared lol. Not to mention you prolly got like 16% bonus on almost every player. Thats higher then gm. Just look at your sent stats now.
Also congratz though on being the first guild that made us spend gems this gw... but being glitchers motivated us to make sure you wont win vs us.

I hope your guild stats gets rolled back and the glitcher gets banned.

Also majestic has been showing some clear domination so far this war. Great job folks

Best of luck everyone

[Spongie]

Wise One, and Android players. I am the recruiter and 2nd in command for Forsaken. Today, I wake up, excited for guild wars. I find out somehow a player did glitch the Bonuses. Our originals were Everything 5% and Earth 6%. I believe I booted the person responsible but I cant be sure. Please contact me with any questions. I want this fixed too. We are not cheaters and I enjoy this game. Hell, I just dropped $100 bucks yesterday so I could gem in battles.

All I know is that it also screwed up some of our armors ability to even hit... When 2 certain elements are part of an armor. Not going to say because we have at least 30 our members who are honest and many of which purchased gems for the war. Don't want to hurt them further. Fact is, about 1/3 o our armors aren't even working and that's the truth. Someone F**** us up from the inside. Many of our players don't use epics and have had to scramble to assure we all have 3 armors that can work together. We are simply well coordinated and play hard. Many of us use gems for points. Hope this helps. I would like to get to the bottom of it as well.

lol funny to say this.. but you should know you can't kick people in GW its locked..
Its your own fault don't blame it on someone else kinda lame excuse.
you guys exployed a glitch and you just have to pay for that!
We also knew of this glitch but were wise enough not to do anything with it.

Anyway GW has been fun only downside is the long waitng for uss to get a new war everytime

[dgrep]

WTF GREE i just went to do a power attack using all four of my war energy, then the game crashed and when it rebooted my energy was all gone but there was no battle. Now I have to wait an hour and a half for it to refill. You need to fix this now, give me the ten gems to actually do the fight

[F@ck Gree]

WTF GREE i just went to do a power attack using all four of my war energy, then the game crashed and when it rebooted my energy was all gone but there was no battle. Now I have to wait an hour and a half for it to refill. You need to fix this now, give me the ten gems to actually do the fight

this happened to me
i bought energy for 10 gems when i clicked the energy icon on top and didnt crash
then i bought energy for 10 gems in the (attack someone --> receive a message that you dont have enough energy and ask you to buy some --> i used that button to buy energy) and then the game crashes and restarted and i only receive 3 energy instead of 4.
i also noticed that the new questline disappeared when i crashed.
I sent a ticket to Gree.
i want my 25% of 10 gems refund

[Bumpain]

Wise One, and Android players. I am the recruiter and 2nd in command for Forsaken. Today, I wake up, excited for guild wars. I find out somehow a player did glitch the Bonuses. Our originals were Everything 5% and Earth 6%. I believe I booted the person responsible but I cant be sure. Please contact me with any questions. I want this fixed too. We are not cheaters and I enjoy this game. Hell, I just dropped $100 bucks yesterday so I could gem in battles.

All I know is that it also screwed up some of our armors ability to even hit... When 2 certain elements are part of an armor. Not going to say because we have at least 30 our members who are honest and many of which purchased gems for the war. Don't want to hurt them further. Fact is, about 1/3 o our armors aren't even working and that's the truth. Someone F**** us up from the inside. Many of our players don't use epics and have had to scramble to assure we all have 3 armors that can work together. We are simply well coordinated and play hard. Many of us use gems for points. Hope this helps. I would like to get to the bottom of it as well.

Not saying I don't believe what you're saying, but since the glitch is giving your WHOLE guild a massive boost advantage, it's only fair to say your bonuses should be rolled back and probably rollback the points you accumulated in war so far. But hey, that's just my opinion, I'll let the GMs to take appropriate actions

[-Solo-]

Inkjets, stop trying to cover your own ass. You guys deserve to get reverted and a loss of guild war rewards. You don't belong in the #2 spot when you're winning because of your boosts.

[sanzibar1]

Not saying I don't believe what you're saying, but since the glitch is giving your WHOLE guild a massive boost advantage, it's only fair to say your bonuses should be rolled back and probably rollback the points you accumulated in war so far. But hey, that's just my opinion, I'll let the GMs to take appropriate actions

i m a member of forsaken and what you say about the points that have to be accumaleted is just not fair alright we had a boost in stats but with the old stats we probebly came as far as we are now cause alot of ppl bought gems and thats why we are second now not because our elements went up and we only not have a push of 5% between our really 5% and the 10% now we also have a big armor bug that makes us weaker and you guys were hitting our bugged player enough to make points against us so that glitching to so i hope gree reset our elements and we can go on

[sanzibar1]

Inkjets, stop trying to cover your own ass. You guys deserve to get reverted and a loss of guild war rewards. You don't belong in the #2 spot when you're winning because of your boosts.

why are you complaining only about us i know for sure that there are atleast 10 more gulds that have done the same. probebly one in the top 10 also but you just want that your second guild finish second. and we belong in the second spot cause we also use gems like you guys. so stop complaining that we not belong where we are now

[-Solo-]

You're trying to defend yourself that you deserve #2 spot when you are only there because of your boost. The reason your guild got brought up is because you are the guild that is most benefitting from it. When each person gets a combined 200+ more stats then they should, it forces other players to lose vs your members and your members getting undeserved wins. We would have racked up more points on you guys if it weren't for your cheated bonuses giving some of your players an undeserved edge.

Pretty pathetic to even defend yourself.

[Tildor]

i m a member of forsaken and what you say about the points that have to be accumaleted is just not fair alright we had a boost in stats but with the old stats we probebly came as far as we are now cause alot of ppl bought gems and thats why we are second now not because our elements went up to 10% now so i hope gree reset our elements and we can go on

A lot of other guild also purchased gems, we also bought alot of gems. "If we had the same stat boost as you guys have we would probably be 2nd now"...see what I did there?
The fact that you bought gems doesnt negate the fact that you have an unjust advantage over other guilds who also bought gems.

And we are complaing about Forsaken because it is the only guild that we know for a fact has used the glitch. Again, the fact that other guilds (supposedly because we dont know for sure, I have only to take your word for it) abused the glitch doesnt let Forsaken of the hook, thats simply child logic..
You say you belong in the 2nd spot, but we think we belong there and because of some abused glitch now we will never know for sure.

Good game >.<

[iH8t2lose2]

So far we have fought 7 of the top 25 guilds. Our guild doesn't spend money and we are rank 150. To me, its really stupid that since we are high level we havr to fight against cheaters and gemspenders who are the same level. I wish i hadn't pushed my guild so hard to level because now we are stuck figbting other high level guilds. Something I would like to see implemented is pairing up with people of thr same or about the sane ranking in guild wars.

[sanzibar1]

You're trying to defend yourself that you deserve #2 spot when you are only there because of your boost. The reason your guild got brought up is because you are the guild that is most benefitting from it. When each person gets a combined 200+ more stats then they should, it forces other players to lose vs your members and your members getting undeserved wins. We would have racked up more points on you guys if it weren't for your cheated bonuses giving some of your players an undeserved edge.

Pretty pathetic to even defend yourself.

not true my stats went up maxed 100 points stil alot but like i said we are bugged. fixed my old respons and is it necessary to call me pathetic? ofcours i defend my own guild cause we have put alot in our guild alot of hard work. and we are not stronger than we were before the glitch

[F@ck Gree]

If you're gonna cheat. dont make it obvious.
You cheat --> you made it obvious --> you 'claim' to use gems to put your guild to number 2 spot --> people notice you are cheating --> you defend yourself --> stupidity is born
yes. you deserve to get your stats rolled back.

[sanzibar1]

look in some comments before i said that gree had to rollback our elements so our stats will be rolled back also than...

[iH8t2lose2]

And your guild war performance, it was cluse between us and you. I assume it was ryno? He was nonstop attacking us the entire war. You should lose all of your stat bonuses and restart at this guild war at 0 points.

[Joshx135]

look in some comments before i said that gree had to rollback our elements so our stats will be rolled back also than...

You cheated yourself boosts that are helping you beat people you may not have been able to beat before. People in opposing guilds may not be able to beat your members that they could beat before. You gain points, they lose points. You would not have as many points. In the end it does not matter because gree will not punish cheaters as long as their buying gems.

[~Nate~]

I'm do ****ing annoyed with my guild smh

[Rafa]

Right thing to do is rollback everything, including their gem so they get to keep it.

If nothing is done I will find this a freaking disrespect towards legit players. And as a spender myself, honestly, I wouldnt like that kind of 'benefit' and would be unacceptable in our guild. Not only that, but incase no attittude is taken I really won't know what to think about GREE.

[F@ck Gree]

Right thing to do is rollback everything, including their gem so they get to keep it.

If nothing is done I will find this a freaking disrespect towards legit players. And as a spender myself, honestly, I wouldnt like that kind of 'benefit' and would be unacceptable in our guild. Not only that, but incase no attittude is taken I really won't know what to think about GREE.

agree. gree should give them back their gems and remove them from this GW. but they can still join the next one

[ZERO_07]

why are you complaining only about us i know for sure that there are atleast 10 more gulds that have done the same. probebly one in the top 10 also but you just want that your second guild finish second. and we belong in the second spot cause we also use gems like you guys. so stop complaining that we not belong where we are now
So basically you're justification for cheating is "other people are doing it too"?

And you expect us to believe that you're entitled to your position simply because you bought gems? As if that is completely nullifies that fact that you cheated and more than half of your boosts that your whole guild is abusing at the moment were attained illegitimately.

[Usul]

i m a member of forsaken and what you say about the points that have to be accumaleted is just not fair alright we had a boost in stats but with the old stats we probebly came as far as we are now cause alot of ppl bought gems and thats why we are second now not because our elements went up and we only not have a push of 5% between our really 5% and the 10% now we also have a big armor bug that makes us weaker and you guys were hitting our bugged player enough to make points against us so that glitching to so i hope gree reset our elements and we can go on

Who cares that you would 'probably' of come as far as you are now with your "old stats". We'll never know because you don't have your old stats! The rest of your point is moot.


By not punishing this guild GREE sends this message: Cheat if you like... just make sure you make more players spend gems.

Plain as day.

[SerKnight]

Right thing to do is rollback everything, including their gem so they get to keep it.

If nothing is done I will find this a freaking disrespect towards legit players. And as a spender myself, honestly, I wouldnt like that kind of 'benefit' and would be unacceptable in our guild. Not only that, but incase no attittude is taken I really won't know what to think about GREE.

I agree with this 100%. Regardless of this is a result of the actions of one person or the entire guild it was abused and no one from the guild bothered to report it and was only acknowledged but someone after it was reported. Either way they took the ball and ran with it continuing to use the boosts to their advantage despite knowing the glitch caused it.

[-Solo-]

Not to mention you guys using exploit to buy max level guardians. You guys are taking advantage of the glitch, plain and simple.

[Spongie]

LOL forsaken you guys are a bunch of fags.. you still using the glitch a lvl 10 serpent? come on.
I hope gree punish you guys so bad that you guys wont get anything!

WISE ONE plx do something this is getting ridiculous!

[inkjets]

I apologize everyone that Sanzibar fed the fire. I dont blame anyone for being frustrated. I can assure you, if all our armors were working, even at the 5% boost, we would have about 10 other players active. We literally have lost about 1/3 of our teams ability to fight since their best armors don't work. They cant even help us against weaker teams.

ALL OF US in the guild do want our elements rolled back. I booted our strongest player 2 hours before the war started because we think he was the one who exploited the glitch and F**** up many of our armors. He had been complaining about the game and that he was going to rage quit. Then this happened and he went silent.

As sad as this is, we have dropped $1000s on this game between all our guild members. That is how we are #2. We spam gems. As do many other top guilds. We are here to cooperate with Gree and have a long time playing K and D.

[Joshx135]

I apologize everyone that Sanzibar fed the fire. I dont blame anyone for being frustrated. I can assure you, if all our armors were working, even at the 5% boost, we would have about 10 other players active. We literally have lost about 1/3 of our teams ability to fight since their best armors don't work. They cant even help us against weaker teams.

ALL OF US in the guild do want our elements rolled back. I booted our strongest player 2 hours before the war started because we think he was the one who exploited the glitch and F**** up many of our armors. He had been complaining about the game and that he was going to rage quit. Then this happened and he went silent.

As sad as this is, we have dropped $1000s on this game between all our guild members. That is how we are #2. We spam gems. As do many other top guilds. We are here to cooperate with Gree and have a long time playing K and D.

You must be so sorry about cheating when you use lvl 10 guardians every war.

[Doubles]

As I type this we are destroying Forsaken for all the points we want as we laugh at their despicable cheating souls. Going to run the score up just out of principle.

Good luck =)


2x

[F@ck Gree]

Forsaken is now the most hated guild on android
at least they accomplished something

[TrinityK]

Guild Extreme have lvl 9 or 10 guardian every single fight and we faced them 4-5 times already. Just throwing it out there.

[-Solo-]

Guild Extreme have lvl 9 or 10 guardian every single fight and we faced them 4-5 times already. Just throwing it out there.

They also abused the glitch. They have 40 levels of elemental bonuses. Anyone with more bonuses than Majestic is plainly cheating with their bonuses. None of the guilds had more bonuses than us before war, but one that was close was Death Knights.

All these guilds needs to be reverted or lose all their bonuses for plainly abusing a glitch and lose their guild war rewards/refunded their gems if they spent.

[Spongie]

Guild Extreme have lvl 9 or 10 guardian every single fight and we faced them 4-5 times already. Just throwing it out there.

I just checked it out guild extreme lv37 and 40 bonus elements another bunch of cheaters

******* gree do something this focks the war up so bad for the people that play fair!

[TrinityK]

I second that Spongie. I'm tired of wasting my war points(and my guildies') on killing a lvl 9/10 guardian every battle. Do something about it Gree when the truth is just so plain obvious.

[Dstockz]

Lets count the advantages that do and don't make forsaken cheaters shall we. They glitched 100s of millions into bonuses, one point for cheaters. They glitched even more gold into a ton of level 10 guardians that as of 20 minutes ago they were still using. Two for cheating! But they spent some gems. 1 for not cheating. Cheating wins 2 to 1. Still you should try harder to justify still using level 10 guardians every match. I attacked your guardian 6 times with good gear and good bonuses, not as good as yours of course, but solid. Your guardian then died and we ran up the scoreboard on principle. You think we only care because of majestic alliance but you are dead wrong I have friends in nearly every guild in the top 20. None of them deserve to be at a disadvantage to a bunch of cheaters. Good luck with your rollback personally I would stop spending now if I were you guys.

[Rafa]

Also don't forget it costs most good guilds like 15 gems (6 attacks) to take down your guardian.... so you are spending gems to make up for the glitch you have been abusing. After we spend those 15 gems we still have to spend more then the usual because your guys are buffed as hell, despite having (no offense) ass gear.

I feel like parsiel and your gm, if they were not the glitch abusers, deserve a better home, honestly.

Also it doesn't hurt us at all but still sad to see you taking advantage of it. I hope gree takes action, and if they spending money is the issue, well I will tell you what, if this keeps going on and there is no punishment for them, you will have two situations:

1 - Everyone will abuse this bug and it will take out part of the fun of the game

or:

2 - Weaker people will stop spending gems on GW vs these guilds and they will take over, as they would stand no chance.

Also you have been getting buffed on Bosses and Arena, GW is not the only issue, how can a guy from this guild get top 25 in epic boss, taking the opportunity away from a legit player to earn a free legendary? All his knights got way more bonuses then they should and we will never know if they would be there.

Its really just a shame this is STILL there...

[Joshx135]

It's quite obvious that Forsaken has been caught cheating red handed. It's about time they received punishment.

[iH8t2lose2]

Yeah, they were all over the top of the leaderboard. If they get away with this you can bet I will tell all of my guildies to never buy gems again. Refund their gems and destroy the guild as they will keep doing it.

[Nicco]

So Forsaken *Accidentally* cheated, because it was clearly an accident, stuff happens, and they bought gems...which means we mustn't just ruin them entirely...it would't be fair

So I think I've come up with a reasonable solution.

Inkjets...I like you, and I kind of feel bad, this probably wasn't your idea, I bet you didn't know about it. I'll offer you a spot in the herd.

Immediately:

Take away the total of all of the points Forsaken has earned from the 50% bonus they received for every win.

Take away all of their guardians, they don't deserve them.

Take away all of their elemental bonuses.

The above sufficiently nerfs whatever injustice they've reaped on the leader-board, punishes them fittingly for the offense, and discourages others from following in their tracks.

[Spongie]

The point here is more they say. We know about it we can't do anything.. and still use lv10 sentinels!
Don't go whining here and say you are sorry if you still use the exploit.
You guys just make lame excuses to make it look less your fault.

Anyway I just hope we fight time more times this war to make them drop points so others can move up the ranks

[Vincio]

Take away the total of all of the points Forsaken has earned from the 50% bonus they received for every win.

Take away all of their guardians, they don't deserve them.

Take away all of their elemental bonuses.


This is the perfect solution. Forsaken would still get the points they earned thanks to the gems they spent, but would not get the ones for the wins they obtained thanks to the cheat.

[Cheetablaze]

If gree actually gave a rats butt and wanted to maintain face, this tournament should be stopped immediately and restarted. It was a glitch not created by the user, it was created on the server side. Yes people abused it, however gree should have had their act together before this whole thing started. They also had plenty of time to stop this before the guild war started. Take the guardians, money, and element boosts away. I can see a banning needing to happen IF people modified their software to cause the glitch. Shame on gree because all they want is our money.

[-Solo-]

I see their element bonuses have been rerolled, but they rerolled Majestic Alliance's bonuses to the very beginning 2% when our guilds were the one who reported people abusing it. Extreme got rerolled to 20 levels.

Still not enough though. They've gotten a big advantage in war with their max level guardians and bonuses that they need to lose war points.

[Dstockz]

Nicco I respect your optimistic nature however even that solution isn't good enough for me. First off there is no way possible that Inkjets had nothing to do with this or didn't know about it. Second I just defeated your guardian again last war this time it took me 12 attacks. I bet that latest guardian was bought with donated money right? I can not even imagine how hard these guardians would be for a lower level guild to take out. You guys keep using them every war. So at this point I can honestly say I hope gree nails Forsaken for this.

[Tachycardia]

Wow, IOS has it's issues, but nothing this ****ty.

And a big LO****ingL for insinuating you would be #2 without cheating.

Ejecting them from the GW immediately would be the most appropriate course of action

[Dstockz]

Wise One are they gonna be allowed to bully other guilds with ill gotten guardians all war?

[~Nate~]

****ing unfair
And also cussing
http://i.imgur.com/s3iDL6b.jpg

[Tim9870]

Yah gree did horrible before the war all of our guilds guardians were reset to level 1, so i tried to sell them all they just stayed there. then one of our hc's did it repeatly and maxed us out. this war should of ben canceled before it even started one of our air boost was at negative so we couldnt even use air armor i sent a ticket in before the war even started.

[Tachycardia]

Wise One are they gonna be allowed to bully other guilds with ill gotten guardians all war?

Luckily Gree has a crack team of highly trained programmers at the ready.

[Cheetablaze]

Luckily Gree has a crack team of highly trained programmers at the ready.


M-F 0730-1630 right? We don't buy enough gems to justify starting earlier and/or working weekends LOL.

[ZERO_07]

Forsaken NEEDS to lose all their Guardians, they were all ATTAINED and LEVELED through the glitch, they should not still have a team of Lv. 10 Guardians at their disposal to abuse. If their Guild Master was truly not involved and is sorry for what he's done then he would NOT still be using the Lv. 10 Guardians AT ALL.

They NEED to lose War Points, at the very least the 50% Boosts they got from each and every battle they won.

It's annoying to see a Guild get so far in the War, compared to the last one because of a glitch exploit, just get a slap on the wrist. Gree you're sending a bad message to everyone by not punishing blatant cheating more severely.

[iH8t2lose2]

Guys, you have to be reasonable, that would be mean. In fact, Gree should double their tournament points so that they make up for everyone being mean. :P

[-Solo-]

They are pretty much telling everyone to cheat for 1 day of the war to get an advantage, save up your money when they reset your bonuses, then rebuy your bonuses. Is that what you want Gree?

[knights]

Forsaken NEEDS to lose all their Guardians, they were all ATTAINED and LEVELED through the glitch, they should not still have a team of Lv. 10 Guardians at their disposal to abuse. If their Guild Master was truly not involved and is sorry for what he's done then he would NOT still be using the Lv. 10 Guardians AT ALL.

They NEED to lose War Points, at the very least the 50% Boosts they got from each and every battle they won.

It's annoying to see a Guild get so far in the War, compared to the last one because of a glitch exploit, just get a slap on the wrist. Gree you're sending a bad message to everyone by not punishing blatant cheating more severely.

Didn't they lose all their element bonuses already? Thats like weeks of work and weakens them a lot compared to everyone else. In comparison, those guardians don't even matter, even at level 10, you just need a few powerful players to mow it down. Annoying yes, but doable. The guards are just there to act as a tiny advantage...

[Vincio]

Didn't they lose all their element bonuses already? Thats like weeks of work and weakens them a lot compared to everyone else.
Apparently no, they didn't. They have 8 lvls purchased. They've only lost the ones they gained with the cheat.

[drygores]

They shouldn't not be in top 10
They don't deserve it. What about 11-12 place? They deserve the epic more than the cheaters.

[iH8t2lose2]

Come on Gree, why don't you derank them? Do they deserve to win? No. What makes us know they didn't cheat gems. DERANK them. They are complete jerks and don 't deserve an epic armor. They already cheated their bonuses back up. What makes you guys think they won't do it again? If you don't then you have to have completely horrible customer support. Even Zynga took care of their players.

[Paladineguru]

As some one who's guild has fought fair, I too think they should be banned from top ten for cheating. Doesn't it violate gree tos??

Knight & Dragons (Android)

IGN: FL Paladine lvl 95
Guild Fellowship of Light

[Rafa]

Didn't they lose all their element bonuses already? Thats like weeks of work and weakens them a lot compared to everyone else. In comparison, those guardians don't even matter, even at level 10, you just need a few powerful players to mow it down. Annoying yes, but doable. The guards are just there to act as a tiny advantage...

Have you fought a level 10 guardian ? If so did you have to take it down by yourself?? Pretty sure you havent

[Tachycardia]

None of this de-rank

If you cheat, you lose and get booted from the GW

Simple enough

[Joshx135]

Didn't they lose all their element bonuses already? Thats like weeks of work and weakens them a lot compared to everyone else. In comparison, those guardians don't even matter, even at level 10, you just need a few powerful players to mow it down. Annoying yes, but doable. The guards are just there to act as a tiny advantage...

If we want to take out a lvl 10 guardian out as fast as possible it can cost up to 2 refills, and when they should only have a lvl 4 or 5 guardian, they are making us loose gems.

[samuellee11]

I have a question about BATTLE FRENZY. Does it normally last until the end of the battle? Thanks!

[Paladineguru]

After the frenzy ends it goes back to time left , at least I think, we had a 9 minute regular time after our frenzy yesterday



Knights & Dragons (Android)

IGN: FL Paladine lvl 95
Guild: Fellowship of Light lvl 28

[Nate R]

I see their element bonuses have been rerolled, but they rerolled Majestic Alliance's bonuses to the very beginning 2% when our guilds were the one who reported people abusing it. Extreme got rerolled to 20 levels.

Still not enough though. They've gotten a big advantage in war with their max level guardians and bonuses that they need to lose war points.

How is this fair or justice at all?? We got our stats rolled back and all we did was accidentally discover the glitch then report it!

Also, not only do other guilds still have their guardian's, GREE did nothing about their gold count! Someone just showed me a picture of a guild with all lvl 9 guardians and 89 million gold! Of course, their stats got rolled back from 10% to 2% so justice has been served, RIGHT?

[~Nate~]

How the Fuq do people do this?

[Joshx135]

How the Fuq do people do this?

It would be wrong to tell you how, because you could just go ahead and do it yourself. Either way its abusing a horrible glitch and Forsaken has been lucky to receive such light punishment from GREE.

[iH8t2lose2]

How the Fuq do people do this?
I tried it just to test if they patched it and it's patched You would just sell your guardians.

[~Nate~]

I tried it just to test if they patched it and it's patched You would just sell your guardians.
O we accidentally did it once

[iH8t2lose2]

Yeah, it didn't actually get rid of it, it just gave you the money.

[BrentNelson]

All I know is the guild I represent, U2EZ, has been trying very hard. We have a few of us who are large gem spenders, although we have the income to do so it is still money we are spending for competition that we are being, almost, cheated out of. Currently, we're rank #5 completely legitimately, but if there are a large number of guilds behind or ahead of us who have gotten their places through foul play not only does that affect the integrity of the guild, but the players around.

We can't have a casual, yet competitive game if you cheat and take the competition out of everything. A slap on the wrist, Gree? No thank you. When I was just a boy when I did wrong I was punished, and that is what should happen with these wrongdoers.

[Paladineguru]

Exactly, we have a few of us who spend, and the rest are being oustandingly active and doing there part we have held the #7 spot to the tenth with legitimate hard work and real committment. To look on the leaderboards and see a cheater still their is a slap in every legit guilds face.


K&D ( Android)
IGN: FL Paladine lvl 95
Guild: Fellowship of Light lvl 28

[F@ck Gree]

What's taking Gree so long to remove Forsaken in the GW?
WTH Gree. you are driven by greed.
SHAME ON YOU. you dont deserve to last long. you dont deserve the money.

[-Solo-]

Not to blow the Forsaken/glitch thing aside, but there needs to be a MINIMUM # of guild members requirement to be in guild war. This is getting stupid to go against a 1 person or 2 person guild when points get lowered for fighting the same person repeatedly.

Gree, you're full of crap. You half-fix problems and slap cheaters on the wrist.

[ppownage]

forsaken deserves a derank.. nice play majestic

[Jonny727272]

I know everyone hates forsaken for cheating and what not but they have had all their bonuses set back and have still gained about 1 million points. I think we all know that gree made this game a pay to win. Forsaken obviously has many gem spenders and that's why they have so many points.

Gree also sees this as a money opportunity because all of us want to catch up to forsaken and will spend more money on gems, it's a win win situation for gree.

If all of us were offered spots in forsaken I guarantee at least 70% of the people here would join. It's simple human psychology to be mad at the "bad guy" but to want to be a part of the better team.

We have all seen that gree doesn't get involved unless absolutely necessary and even then it's minimal. If forsaken is a bunch of cheaters then they will do bad in the next gw, if they aren't and they get 2nd again then we will all look stupid.

Something every good salesman knows is to never trash your competition because one day they could be better then you and you will have to eat your words. I'm not trying to justify or talk up forsaken but I legitimately see them working hard and gaining huge amounts of points even after rollback.

[Tvidgmfrks]

I have an amazing guild called Hail Sithis, But we have a member that was pretty quiet this whole time till now...not in the sens that he talks but in the way that after every fight he clicks the f-ing war button after every f-ing fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are working for him right now and it's making me very angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are playing for fun but when you get an A** whole like him just makes the game toxic!!!!!!!!!!! we are tired of GoBUCKSFan48!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i pay for this game..i use up my web on my phone i pay to play I get gems I want to as guild master of my guild be able to delete this f-ing punk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all my members are really mad! and im tired of him ruining this game for us..idgaf about these ppl who are complaing about losing one spot I am not trying to get money back im not trying to be annoying but we deserve the right to play and have some f-ing fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this game we al love but this A** is really angering us! pls just do something blocck him for us delete him from our guild or something pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im so not even kidding he makes us all so mad...and i apologize for the miss typing and cussing but this is how mad we all are we pay money..i dont expect us to be the best but give us a chance! delete GoBUCKSFan48 pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[F@ck Gree]

It may have been 1 persons fault for messing up their guild but they went along with it. they didnt tell gree and used it as an advantage to win some GW matches.
I personally think Forsaken isnt a cheater guild. they were influenced. power is corrupting, once they had that power, they decided to keep it (as what most of us would do)
Gree should have at least reduce their points by 50% since they won alot of wars with that glitch
The only thing we are mad about is Gree not doing anything to solve this issue

This Forsaken hate phenomenon will end as soon as Gree do something

To Forsaken: Convince Gree to do something so that no one would call you cheater all the time

[ppownage]

I have an amazing guild called Hail Sithis, But we have a member that was pretty quiet this whole time till now...not in the sens that he talks but in the way that after every fight he clicks the f-ing war button after every f-ing fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are working for him right now and it's making me very angry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are playing for fun but when you get an A** whole like him just makes the game toxic!!!!!!!!!!! we are tired of GoBUCKSFan48!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i pay for this game..i use up my web on my phone i pay to play I get gems I want to as guild master of my guild be able to delete this f-ing punk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all my members are really mad! and im tired of him ruining this game for us..idgaf about these ppl who are complaing about losing one spot I am not trying to get money back im not trying to be annoying but we deserve the right to play and have some f-ing fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this game we al love but this A** is really angering us! pls just do something blocck him for us delete him from our guild or something pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im so not even kidding he makes us all so mad...and i apologize for the miss typing and cussing but this is how mad we all are we pay money..i dont expect us to be the best but give us a chance! delete GoBUCKSFan48 pls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

calm down :)

[ppownage]

I know everyone hates forsaken for cheating and what not but they have had all their bonuses set back and have still gained about 1 million points. I think we all know that gree made this game a pay to win. Forsaken obviously has many gem spenders and that's why they have so many points.

Gree also sees this as a money opportunity because all of us want to catch up to forsaken and will spend more money on gems, it's a win win situation for gree.

If all of us were offered spots in forsaken I guarantee at least 70% of the people here would join. It's simple human psychology to be mad at the "bad guy" but to want to be a part of the better team.

We have all seen that gree doesn't get involved unless absolutely necessary and even then it's minimal. If forsaken is a bunch of cheaters then they will do bad in the next gw, if they aren't and they get 2nd again then we will all look stupid.

Something every good salesman knows is to never trash your competition because one day they could be better then you and you will have to eat your words. I'm not trying to justify or talk up forsaken but I legitimately see them working hard and gaining huge amounts of points even after rollback.

i wouldnt join a team of cheaters :/ never... and why would we look stupid if they score high without cheating??? they cheated there are no excuses for that.

[iH8t2lose2]

I know everyone hates forsaken for cheating and what not but they have had all their bonuses set back and have still gained about 1 million points. I think we all know that gree made this game a pay to win. Forsaken obviously has many gem spenders and that's why they have so many points.

Gree also sees this as a money opportunity because all of us want to catch up to forsaken and will spend more money on gems, it's a win win situation for gree.

If all of us were offered spots in forsaken I guarantee at least 70% of the people here would join. It's simple human psychology to be mad at the "bad guy" but to want to be a part of the better team.

We have all seen that gree doesn't get involved unless absolutely necessary and even then it's minimal. If forsaken is a bunch of cheaters then they will do bad in the next gw, if they aren't and they get 2nd again then we will all look stupid.

Something every good salesman knows is to never trash your competition because one day they could be better then you and you will have to eat your words. I'm not trying to justify or talk up forsaken but I legitimately see them working hard and gaining huge amounts of points even after rollback.

Yrah, why don't I download some gem and gold hack and kick your guys butts in the guild wars? BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHEATING!!!! I'm sure you guys feel real cool with your spot in the GW but honestly, you aren't cool if you cheat your way to victory. You guys are pathetic horrible people.

[F@ck Gree]

Yrah, why don't I download some gem and gold hack and kick your guys butts in the guild wars? BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHEATING!!!! I'm sure you guys feel real cool with your spot in the GW but honestly, you aren't cool if you cheat your way to victory. You guys are pathetic horrible people.
Im pretty sure it's a human nature to like cheating
we just dont like getting cheated because we cant accept that we get cheated with something else you cant do to others.

[CASKA]

It may have been 1 persons fault for messing up their guild but they went along with it. they didnt tell gree and used it as an advantage to win some GW matches.
I personally think Forsaken isnt a cheater guild. they were influenced. power is corrupting, once they had that power, they decided to keep it (as what most of us would do)
Gree should have at least reduce their points by 50% since they won alot of wars with that glitch
The only thing we are mad about is Gree not doing anything to solve this issue

This Forsaken hate phenomenon will end as soon as Gree do something

To Forsaken: Convince Gree to do something so that no one would call you cheater all the time


Even though MAJESTIC leaders knew about the glitch too, never were they tempted to use it.


Power corrupts ONLY the weak minded.

[Usul]

Im pretty sure it's a human nature to like cheating
we just dont like getting cheated because we cant accept that we get cheated with something else you cant do to others.

No. Winning is sooooo much sweeter when it's done legitametly.

We're 4th place and deserve 3rd or better. That's all.

[F@ck Gree]

No. Winning is sooooo much sweeter when it's done legitametly.

We're 4th place and deserve 3rd or better. That's all.
Im not saying that Forsaken should get away with this. but they would have if they werent stupid enough to make it obvious. Once in our lives we cheated on something and we feel good for a short period of time.

[F@ck Gree]

Even though MAJESTIC leaders knew about the glitch too, never were they tempted to use it.


Power corrupts ONLY the weak minded.

Why would Majestic abuse the glitch if they know for sure they can win the war without any glitch?
It would be stupid for Majestic to do that in their state.
Im sure if any of the lower guild know about this glitch, they would have at least try to use it to some extent.

[-Solo-]

It was the Alliance, not main Majestic. Gree gave Alliance a reset to 2% even though they got their bonuses legitly while the other teams got a half assed reset like Extreme to 18 levels, whom abused the glitch. Does that make any sense? Report the cheat and get a bigger rollback when you didn't take advantage of it. Abuse the cheating and get a half assed rollback.

How long will it take for Forsaken Valcyon to get banned? We know he has unlimited gems. Him and the 1 HC are the two major "spenders" in this whole guild war.

[Doubles]

Just give the cheaters the black medal and set the example for how to win every guild war thereafter.

[Tim9870]

I'm the leader of extreme, I discovered the glitch by mistake before the guild war trying to sell guardians since I was at max and could not do the guild purchase quest. And I sent a ticket to gree right after, I'm surprised they didn't delay the war to fix these bugs they just let it run.

[~Nate~]

We battled a guild but MY war points didn't count -_-
I spent 100 gems on the battle and my guild didn't see that I got points

[Tim9870]

Lol make sure you got good signal when u fight

[Rafa]

So... FSK has been in around 45 battles I assume.
It takes a good guild around 20 gems to take their guardian down.
20*45 = 900 gems that should never be used. Or used to score points for a total of :
1 battle = 250 pts average
So 10 gems = 1k pts
90k pts, with bonus 135k.
Lame.... still nothing is done. Give them the axe already, god damn it. Should refund majestic aswell because they are being forced to spend gems vs them. Same about other guilds that has beaten them

[Tim9870]

Might as well cancel the war and refund every gem spent on energy and start this war next week. To bad gree don't care about there players to do that.

[~Nate~]

We battled a guild but MY war points didn't count -_-
I spent 100 gems on the battle and my guild didn't see that I got points

Fix? Pls help

[-Solo-]

Inkjets messaging me on Line if they should keep fighting or stop spending.

12:54 Inkjets We go blood bath...or hold back?

Some people have no honor or respect.

[~Nate~]

We battled a guild but MY war points didn't count -_-
I spent 100 gems on the battle and my guild didn't see that I got points
I got cheeted out of $25 I need a refund

[Joshx135]

I got cheeted out of $25 I need a refund

Dont expect to get it.

[~Nate~]

Dont expect to get it.
Should I send a ticket or something?

[Joshx135]

Should I send a ticket or something?

Not unless you have some sort of proof.

[~Nate~]

Not unless you have some sort of proof.

I'm going my video camera, but of course when I record it it will work

[knights]

Yrah, why don't I download some gem and gold hack and kick your guys butts in the guild wars? BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE CHEATING!!!! I'm sure you guys feel real cool with your spot in the GW but honestly, you aren't cool if you cheat your way to victory. You guys are pathetic horrible people.

You should go and just do that. One thing we know GREE does is outright ban gold/gem hack cheaters. Forsaken and some other guilds took advantage of a glitch (not a hack) which had been patched. If all their bonuses are rolled back, you realized they probably lost more gold than they cheated. As someone pointed out, even after their bonuses are rolled back, they still managed to gain a ton of points. They are obviously a competent guild and if they do come back and finish 1st or 2nd on the next guild war, a lot of people on this thread will look pretty stupid.

[Daenerys]

You should go and just do that. One thing we know GREE does is outright ban gold/gem hack cheaters. Forsaken and some other guilds took advantage of a glitch (not a hack) which had been patched. If all their bonuses are rolled back, you realized they probably lost more gold than they cheated. As someone pointed out, even after their bonuses are rolled back, they still managed to gain a ton of points. They are obviously a competent guild and if they do come back and finish 1st or 2nd on the next guild war, a lot of people on this thread will look pretty stupid.

Absolutely disagree. How is this different than a world-class athlete caught doping (cheating)? No one would argue the athlete is not good to begin with, but that does not negate the fact they cheated.

A cheater is a cheater is a cheater.

[-Solo-]

If all their bonuses are rolled back, you realized they probably lost more gold than they cheated.

That does not make up for the gems teams wasted on their guardians or their players that had an unfair boost to their stats. Players won matches they shouldn't have won and other guild players lost matches they shouldn't have lost. They got a "don't do that" when nothing has been been given back to the other guilds/players that had to use resources that shouldn't have been used.

[iH8t2lose2]

Absolutely disagree. How is this different than a world-class athlete caught doping (cheating)? No one would argue the athlete is not good to begin with, but that does not negate the fact they cheated.

A cheater is a cheater is a cheater.
Playing your guild right now, good luck!

[Joshx135]

You should go and just do that. One thing we know GREE does is outright ban gold/gem hack cheaters. Forsaken and some other guilds took advantage of a glitch (not a hack) which had been patched. If all their bonuses are rolled back, you realized they probably lost more gold than they cheated. As someone pointed out, even after their bonuses are rolled back, they still managed to gain a ton of points. They are obviously a competent guild and if they do come back and finish 1st or 2nd on the next guild war, a lot of people on this thread will look pretty stupid.

Not even close, to max out their bonuses and lvl 10 guardians they glitched 100's of millions of gold.

[iH8t2lose2]

Not even close, to max out their bonuses and lvl 10 guardians they glitched 100's of millions of gold. And they still have level 10 guardians which they could sell.

[Daenerys]

Playing your guild right now, good luck!

I recognized you guys from the forum :-D It was a good fight!

[toogoodformyowngood]

Haha, I think this guild wars have been quite fun. Alot of spending but overall pretty fun with minimal bugs! Thanks Gree for a good experience!

Nobody thanks the programmers who worked hard to make this happen.

I see alot of rivalries in the future! very exciting!

[Daenerys]

I have a question regarding the role of the sentinels in the current guild wars.

So after 5 attacks, the sentinel no longer protects the guild, regardless if he / she is actually defeated?

TIA.

[Replicatorz]

Seems to be how it works.

Anyone else notice you get fewer points for winning when you are a higher level?
My main is 100+ and I rarely get over 150 pt for a win, I am guild master and always attack enemy sentinel, master and champion after killing guardian. I think it is stupid. On my tablet I can attack the same guy and get 350 pts for a win. Killing gm, gc, and gs should yield 300 pnts minimum imo, they are the guild leads....that's my rant for the day.

[Bride of Eunuchorn]

I have a question regarding the role of the sentinels in the current guild wars.

So after 5 attacks, the sentinel no longer protects the guild, regardless if he / she is actually defeated?

TIA.

Or 2 failed Powe Attacks

[ppownage]

love this epic! :P

[MadPhoneBashing]

The only suggestion after android's first guild war is fix match making. Its ridiculous to fight one man guilds, after all a guild is suppose to be a group of people playing together and inspire teamwork. A guild should qualify to play in a guild war if they have a sentinel and champion atleast bare minimum. Just my 2 cents.

[Bumpain]

Although the game is designed to make profit, but I would stilll like to recommend GREE to have a war where NO GEMS can be spent once every now and again to truly test each guild strength.

Nonetheless, the war was quite fun and exciting, really brings the the whole guild together and focus on 1 objective but 3 days I find is way too long, maybe cutting it down to 2 day

[toogoodformyowngood]

Although the game is designed to make profit, but I would stilll like to recommend GREE to have a war where NO GEMS can be spent once every now and again to truly test each guild strength.

Nonetheless, the war was quite fun and exciting, really brings the the whole guild together and focus on 1 objective but 3 days I find is way too long, maybe cutting it down to 2 day

lol. if that were to happen then Gree wouldn't be around? Who's gonna pay their programmers?

its the p2p players that support the f2p players.

There is no skill and strength, its all about activity and gems.

[Marco_]

lol. if that were to happen then Gree wouldn't be around? Who's gonna pay their programmers?

its the p2p players that support the f2p players.

There is no skill and strength, its all about activity and gems.
s/p2p/p2w/

And counter example Riot Games with League of Legends where there is no p2w and they seem to thrive in spite of millions of non-paying players. Of course that's a skill based game...
(1200 employees last I've heard, huge server farms to run the games, world championship with a $1 million first prize)
Of course KnD capes are rather "meh" compared to LoL skins, so hard for Gree to make most of their money off those... ;)

[Sifu]

lol. if that were to happen then Gree wouldn't be around? Who's gonna pay their programmers?

its the p2p players that support the f2p players.

There is no skill and strength, its all about activity and gems.

Without the f2p community to give them a larger playerbase, the p2p players likely wouldn't have this game either. Games of this nature tend to not survive long if the p2p players are all that's left. They only have themselves to fight against and no f2p players to envy them. Just food for thought.

[US GanjaBoy]

Hope the next time it won't have any glitches or any glitches abuser..
Nonetheless, really nice war, I loved it..it's been hilarious sometime

grats to the top 10 (except the forsaken) and HollyDragonsBatman #11,
less than 1k from #10, wish you'll do better next time

Thanks to my guild and special thanks to our top players, i can't wear this new epic without you.

**** yea!

[iH8t2lose2]

Dang... just enhanced my ice lich armor into my sg+. Guess I wont be getting my keys.

[~Nate~]

Dang... just enhanced my ice lich armor into my sg+. Guess I wont be getting my keys.
I just enhanced mine into my Combustion lol

[SmokeSR]

^ how? Spirit =/= air or fire?

[Marco_]

^ how? Spirit =/= air or fire?
Hmm? any armor can be enhanced onto any other armor. If none of the elements match it's just at reduced points (about 80%) .

[-Solo-]

Key word was enhanced.

[SmokeSR]

Right...English hard. Sorry, my fault.