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[Will_Treaty]

Gree, I have a question to you. Do you care more about the profit of this game or the pleasure of players? Don't even try to say that it is for the pleasure because it isn't. Epics are removed in the fusing process because you want money. For more people to buy gems. Gree I am very annoyed with this update and I better get something good in the beast brawl. An epic or the top legendary armors Bkal, aegis if the dragon, combustion, clayplate, guardians battlegear. One of these in + form. I will give you advice because I do like this game and want it to be better.

1. Before an update tell us the important things about to happen.
2. Players before money. If that's hard, then 50-50 cuz yes a lot of people like money.

Take a brief moment to think about the riot you have caused with one simple update.

This is dedicated to knocknuts because his thread was deleted, or invalid.

[Zyntree]

Sorry Will. GREE is a business and in this for the money. My guess is they will make a fair amount from this when people want epics to compete with those that already have them and can only get them through chests... I wouldn't hold high hopes for those beast keys either... chests are usually crap.

If GREE were more in it for the players, we would get some kind of announcement about these things so after its in effect we don't waste out fing legendaries trying to fuse for epics. I'm not bitter, really :P

[Will_Treaty]

My name isn't will it is just a made up name from a book I like. But thanks of your sympathy

[Will_Treaty]

Gree if you just updated the game to change the tectonic issue then too bad. Every one has already used their stones and armors. Nice try

[blackheart5]

Ok theyre a buisness and secondly epics were removed from dpc also so that probably will have something to do with beast keys so stop jumping the gun

[Peaches]

I dont look for Epics to be in the Beast chest because the banner says to craft and keep armors for Legendary rewards. Does not mention Epic, it says Legendary.

[EljayK]

I dont look for Epics to be in the Beast chest because the banner says to craft and keep armors for Legendary rewards. Does not mention Epic, it says Legendary.

Weekly bosses are Epic Bosses, they give Legendary armors. Legendary, not Epic.

[Bride of Eunuchorn]

Gree, I have a question to you. Do you care more about the profit of this game or the pleasure of players? Don't even try to say that it is for the pleasure because it isn't. Epics are removed in the fusing process because you want money. For more people to buy gems. Gree I am very annoyed with this update and I better get something good in the beast brawl. An epic or the top legendary armors Bkal, aegis if the dragon, combustion, clayplate, guardians battlegear. One of these in + form. I will give you advice because I do like this game and want it to be better.

1. Before an update tell us the important things about to happen.
2. Players before money. If that's hard, then 50-50 cuz yes a lot of people like money.

Take a brief moment to think about the riot you have caused with one simple update.

This is dedicated to knocknuts because his thread was deleted, or invalid.

Ya, I'm sure none of these things have ever been discussed at a dev meeting. /sarcasm

[Bride of Eunuchorn]

I dont look for Epics to be in the Beast chest because the banner says to craft and keep armors for Legendary rewards. Does not mention Epic, it says Legendary.

I do believe you're taking it too literally. Have any 30gem chests not had an epic? Can't remember what the July 4th box gave.

[KayOrzz]

I do believe you're taking it too literally. Have any 30gem chests not had an epic? Can't remember what the July 4th box gave.

combustion

[Rand al Thor]

Of course they care more about profit - they are in this to make money first and foremost.

[Eldentoh]

Hey will or whatever your name is are u from wilddragoneye

[Wboxer]

I can appreciate the need for money. I fully embrace being a "mooch" by not paying. :) However, I saw a post on this topic yesterday that included this link:

http://www.mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm

It was very informative on the dynamics of game communities. Now, it is all based on this guy's research and opinion, so it's not like it is cold hard fact. In brief there are four types of players : Killers, Achievers, Explorers, and Socializers. The names are pretty self explanatory. Killers like to prey on other players. They are likely to be your pay-to-win types in order to be powerful. Achievers like to accrue points/stuff. They may or may not be payers. Explorers like to figure out the game and its environment. Socializers like to talk. Given the lack of easy communication in the game the socializer type is quite restricted. Given the linear story/area progression/combat mechanics the explorer type is very restricted as well. That leaves achievers and killers.

I think that what Gree needs to keep in mind is keeping the achievers happy/engaged. A community can't really exist with just killers; they need others to prey upon. Given the game construction that pretty much just leaves achievers. Beyond the whole "fusing for epics" thing, what keeps achievers interested and engaged with this game? For example, I'm level 80 and I'm working on getting and leveling my 3* armors. This is something that keeps me working at the game every day. Once I do that, perhaps there are some good 4*s to work towards. However, what will keep me interested/engaged in the game beyond that? I realize that as an individual my single presence is not critical to the game. However, even as f2p, I provide incentive for the killers to engage and pay money to stay on top. I personally don't care too much about the whole epic armor thing, my goal isn't to be on top. What I care about is why will I be playing this game in 1 month, 2 months, 6 months? I think THAT is the question Gree ought to be asking themselves.

[Pillsbury]

This is interesting, and makes complete sense. I definitely fall into the achievement category and am contemplating quitting this game after 1 year straight of playing daily. I am over level 200, have 13 level 70 armors maxed at last count and have spent hundreds of dollars (unexplanitorily) of real money on this game and have never gotten any of the top level armors out of chests. A few months ago, I could compete with many of the top players out there, but now I get wasted by almost anyone ranked higher than 500 in the pvp battles. I do not want to spent tons of real money on a video game and have almost no reason to keep playing. I read recently in an article that Gree makes over 1 million dollars a month on this game, and the kicker was they were trying to triple that amount (or something like that) within the next year. I am voicing this out of frustration for a game I have spent countless time of my life on, and am hoping that somebody who cares and who can take this comment and use it to convince Gree that they are going to lose people like me (and I know there are a lot) very soon if they don't find a way to keep the competition somewhat fair for all.

[busteroaf]

This is interesting, and makes complete sense. I definitely fall into the achievement category and am contemplating quitting this game after 1 year straight of playing daily. I am over level 200, have 13 level 70 armors maxed at last count and have spent hundreds of dollars (unexplanitorily) of real money on this game and have never gotten any of the top level armors out of chests. A few months ago, I could compete with many of the top players out there, but now I get wasted by almost anyone ranked higher than 500 in the pvp battles. I do not want to spent tons of real money on a video game and have almost no reason to keep playing. I read recently in an article that Gree makes over 1 million dollars a month on this game, and the kicker was they were trying to triple that amount (or something like that) within the next year. I am voicing this out of frustration for a game I have spent countless time of my life on, and am hoping that somebody who cares and who can take this comment and use it to convince Gree that they are going to lose people like me (and I know there are a lot) very soon if they don't find a way to keep the competition somewhat fair for all.

Sadly, for every one one of the "going to lose people like me" there are plenty of other people that will step into your place. This is not the first game, and it won't be the last game, that follows this model. I played a game before starting KnD, that seemed to be in the same boat. Constant events, everything was a money grab. Guess what. Its still alive and kicking, and likely raking in more profits than it did before.

[Antinoob]

I agree bring back fusable epics.. way more fun and suspenseful trying to get them. yes i get gems but i donnt wanna only get epics with gems.. if anything i spend less now

[deathexe]

I agree bring back fusable epics.. way more fun and suspenseful trying to get them. yes i get gems but i donnt wanna only get epics with gems.. if anything i spend less now

Not exactly fun and suspenseful when there was a guaranteed combo to get mono epics. As mentioned in other threads when and if epic fusing is reintroduced, it would probably be after more legendary armors are made fusable to decrease the possibility of fusing an epic.

[Will_Treaty]

Hey will or whatever your name is are u from wilddragoneye

Yes, are you elden from that?

[Bride of Eunuchorn]

Assuming epic fusing isn't a bug like the gem button that might be magically restored to the great benefit of all the whiners, I agree, it should be reinstated.
BUT ONLY if they create a 6 star armor called "Artifact" & create a 40-gem chest to get it.