Pairings

[Warmonger]

My guild finished in the top 50 last war.

So far in this war in the first 6 battles we have faced:

Order of Dragon warriors twice. 10th last war.
Kings gate. 17th last war
Spectral Agony. 22nd last war
Bob. 30th last war.

We're finding this pretty tough, so I was wondering how other guilds are finding their pairings?

[David.]

Not much better, the stats in our guild range from 100k to 900k but half the guild we battle have a few ppl under 80 with low stats but the rest is 500k-1.5mil.

[Mr T Perfect]

Warmonger

we enjoyed that last battle emensly

[Alexius]

We've been severely outmatched on half of our wars. Gods of Valhalla twice and Dragon Warriors once out of 6 matches. It is what it is.

The funny thing is we're currently ranked top 300 and GoV is 10th lol

[jchow69]

We had pretty good matchups so far. Found a guy at level 139 with 76k defense and a guy at level 175 with 116k defense. I ripped them both up.

[ELVIS2K13]

I would love any of those match ups

[jchow69]

I would love any of those match ups

U mean the matchups that I posted? I am level 50 with 155k/143k stats. I enjoy those targets very much. I want more of them, pls.

[Mr T Perfect]

You just have to fight who you get!

come on if it were based on ranking - Ferr and FUN would be bored to the back teeth of eachother!!

[jchow69]

I have a plan to get 50 wins and spend less cash if any1 wants to hear it.

[Mr T Perfect]

GO on?? ....

[jchow69]

GO on?? ....

Instead of bursting all you have for one win, if an opponent scores 10k in a battle, you score 11k just to count as a win and save money. If you lose, you lose by a lot and then you save up health 4 next battle.

[E-I]

My guild finished in the top 50 last war.

So far in this war in the first 6 battles we have faced:

Order of Dragon warriors twice. 10th last war.
Kings gate. 17th last war
Spectral Agony. 22nd last war
Bob. 30th last war.

We're finding this pretty tough, so I was wondering how other guilds are finding their pairings?

Sounds like a great battle list. Lots of points from those guilds! :p

[Berneburg]

Same as last time, getting the shaft. Top 200 guild 3/5 record, fought 75, 59, 56 ranked guilds from last time already. If they are slow playing it sure doesn't happen when they fight us. Plus we stated slow playing so should have fought guilds below us, not above. Gree, I think you broke me...adios.

[Officer Overlord]

no not really

[HypeTonic]

Well the guild I am part of, faced a guild where their Guardian was 2 million defence and our top attack is barely 600k and we faced them 2 times in a row and scored 10x the points we did.

[justsomedood5]

Well the guild I am part of, faced a guild where their Guardian was 2 million defence and our top attack is barely 600k and we faced them 2 times in a row and scored 10x the points we did.

Ah, what I wouldn't give to find a FUN or RK target with 2 million defense...

[HypeTonic]

Ah, what I wouldn't give to find a FUN or RK target with 2 million defense...

Is that low or something? And the thing is we barely make top 600 and they probably make top 50

[E-I]

Is that low or something? And the thing is we barely make top 600 and they probably make top 50

Well, when everyone in the guild is in the 3-4m range, yes, 2m is low.

[Shinazueli]

Yes, the pairing was completely unbalanced for the first few hours. It seems to have balanced out now. BGK1 vs top100 team = non-consensual reproductive act. We saw the name and said "just come back in an hour".

[tinyblazer]

Instead of bursting all you have for one win, if an opponent scores 10k in a battle, you score 11k just to count as a win and save money. If you lose, you lose by a lot and then you save up health 4 next battle.

Many guilds (especially lowly, free-playing guilds like ours) had been doing that since last war, just because we had to make meaningful use of our health and the reward of xxx wins is far more desirable than top yyy. But you don't know how crazy the final minute or two became. Everybody is lurking until then and try to one-up the other guild...

[Krayt]

You want to be guild you have fight a top guild...
I got an alt in a two man guild and they have fought guilds with 15 members. Now that is unfair

[Berneburg]

Instead of bursting all you have for one win, if an opponent scores 10k in a battle, you score 11k just to count as a win and save money. If you lose, you lose by a lot and then you save up health 4 next battle.

This is exactly what we have been doing; lost 1st battle, won three in a row, then have lost 10 in a row. We are a 150/200 ranked guild and we are still facing top 59/75 guilds even now. If the top guilds can slow play to slum down to me, why isn't my slow playing getting me 300/400 ranked guilds. This new win/loss twist seemed interesting at first, but for mid-range guilds it has completely disabled any ability to progress on their own.

[Berneburg]

This is exactly what we have been doing; lost 1st battle, won three in a row, then have lost 10 in a row. We are a 150/200 ranked guild and we are still facing top 59/75 guilds even now. If the top guilds can slow play to slum down to me, why isn't my slow playing getting me 300/400 ranked guilds. This new win/loss twist seemed interesting at first, but for mid-range guilds it has completely disabled any ability to progress on their own.

Facing Angry Red Heads right now; p after 10 losses in a row?! How is that equitable pairing?

[[ARH] ELF]

why all the hate for us redheads?

[Berneburg]

ELF;929717']why all the hate for us redheads?

No hate, we just shouldn't keep getting paired against guilds ranked 100-125 above us. 11 in a row against guilds 100-125 higher is not equitable pairing...

[[ARH] ELF]

We pull FUN, RK, and SB often. Sucks for us then. It's the luck of the draw man.

[Mystogan]

Maybe along with the war quests.. they should give 10,000-25,000 CP per win as incentive to play to win?

[Berneburg]

ELF;929737']We pull FUN, RK, and SB often. Sucks for us then. It's the luck of the draw man.

I hear you, but can you at least compete with them? We could barely hit you guys. You beat us by over 60k. We couldn't have won, but that was all we could score even with a full compliment around. We would typically range 25k- 40k CP for a full on war, but the pairing held us back significantly. Now do that 11 times in a row...

[Cola3]

I hear you, but can you at least compete with them? We could barely hit you guys. You beat us by over 60k. We couldn't have won, but that was all we could score even with a full compliment around. We would typically range 25k- 40k CP for a full on war, but the pairing held us back significantly. Now do that 11 times in a row...
How many members do you have? What is the name of your guild?

[Proprioc3ption]

Hmm...maybe i should reserve my assumption that GREE fixed the matching times as we are now approaching 40 minutes of waiting time. Totally unacceptable.:mad:


Well well well, finally paired. hmmm, coincidence?

[leek]

Hmm...maybe i should reserve my assumption that GREE fixed the matching times as we are now approaching 40 minutes of waiting time. Totally unacceptable.:mad:


Well well well, finally paired. hmmm, coincidence?

Its a cat and mice game. No mouse would dare venture out of their hole when the big puss comes hunting. Take comfort that you are the only team capable of a consecutive streak regardless whom you face.

[Kjctnorris]

Hmm...maybe i should reserve my assumption that GREE fixed the matching times as we are now approaching 40 minutes of waiting time. Totally unacceptable.:mad:


Well well well, finally paired. hmmm, coincidence?

That's because everyone waits to see your score start to move on the leaderboard before they declare war lol

[jchow69]

TheGoodLife has super good matches so far. I scored 13k CP to this point.

[P4TR1C14N]

I dont want to complain, but we get some incredible matches once again...

- FUN
- 2x RK
- 2x KSF
- 2x TFS
- KSC

And then i'm not mentioning yet the top25 guilds on top off this.

Even worse... We matching these guilds when ages outside off top10 or top25. Strange... Why always us every war weekend as this keeps happening to us. That's what they call a non biased matching system that evens out the battlefield..'

Ok, back to war.. We pulled a feasible one wihiiii... Stay positive...

[jchow69]

I dont want to complain, but we get some incredible matches once again...

- FUN
- 2x RK
- 2x KSF
- 2x TFS
- KSC

And then i'm not mentioning yet the top25 guilds on top off this.

Even worse... We matching these guilds when ages outside off top10 or top25. Strange... Why always us every war weekend as this keeps happening to us. That's what they call a non biased matching system that evens out the battlefield..'

Ok, back to war.. We pulled a feasible one wihiiii... Stay positive...

In MW, I was with a top 50 faction and we matched up with Ferr's Emperors. They pulled 850k on us, but we somehow got 75k points on them. It was our dl who had over 1.5 millions stats that did most of the damage. So, I guess I know how it feels.

[Alexius]

I dont want to complain, but we get some incredible matches once again...

- FUN
- 2x RK
- 2x KSF
- 2x TFS
- KSC

And then i'm not mentioning yet the top25 guilds on top off this.

Even worse... We matching these guilds when ages outside off top10 or top25. Strange... Why always us every war weekend as this keeps happening to us. That's what they call a non biased matching system that evens out the battlefield..'

Ok, back to war.. We pulled a feasible one wihiiii... Stay positive...

Really positive cause this time it's not us! :D

[Johan -]

Nice, we found FUN II,

Anyone knows where their DL is coming from?? The DL is a lv.200 player with stats of 4 mill defence.
Is he coming from FUN ?

Thankfully all other members aren't that strong :D

[Rocco69]

We are only top 150 guild and 90% of our matches have been fair (from last war, ranked 100 to 200) - we did get a top 20 & a few in the 60 to 70 range but otherwise this war seems more fair than recent ones. and pretty quick pairing times.

[Johan -]

Nice, we found FUN II,

Anyone knows where their DL is coming from?? The DL is a lv.200 player with stats of 4 mill defence.
Is he coming from FUN ?

Thankfully all other members aren't that strong :D

WOW !! We found FUN to fight against!
For your information, we are a Top100~150 guild .

Didn't expect something like this ;)

[Amandegrillée]

We faced FUN 2 and right after FUN...really..great warrior ( nice to meet you by the way) but gosh way to strong for us...

[Dkh]

Matchups this war seem significantly harder for some reason. Opponents stats seem to have doubled compared to the previous 4 wars

[E-I]

This war is starting to get really boring when you get matched up with the same 3-4 guilds every battle. We have played one guild 5 times, and two others 3 times apiece.

[Guido69]

C'mon Gree, match us with RK or SB already. It will be a full out gem warfare, so you win anyways.

[Zenobia]

Holy poo balls we just had the MOST epic battle wit FKG. I need a cigarette. And I don't smoke. Yet. lol.

[Person]

FKG you're epic lol

sorry for breaking ur streak you were having :)

[Goliathlefou]

Our pairings is really bad too.

[justsomedood5]

How long are you guys having to wait for pairings?

[LegoLass]

No more whining. This just happened to my baby guild. 59k points against 2.3 million.

[KM KAge]

How long are you guys having to wait for pairings?
90 seconds plus. The longer it takes, the larger the mismatch. Had one where our top member could hit one member of their guild, the rest got to tap on the castle door.

[P4TR1C14N]

90 seconds plus. The longer it takes, the larger the mismatch. Had one where our top member could hit one member of their guild, the rest got to tap on the castle door.

90 seconds... Omg... Takes way longer for us.... Up to 15-30 min. For FUN even longer i heard...

Matching needs to be revised... Simple. It doesnt work correct.

[KM KAge]

90 seconds... Omg... Takes way longer for us.... Up to 15-30 min. For FUN even longer i heard...

Matching needs to be revised... Simple. It doesnt work correct.
Matching is not that easy, but it should not be that hard. Something like:
* For the first minute, is there a guild waiting within 10 positions of my level, we have a match
* For the second minute, check for guilds within 20 positions, we have a match
etc until the fifth minute when you just match to the closest guild. Mismatches would still occur but they should be reduced and the longest wait would be 5 minutes. Not great but better than today. Once that gets worked out properly, add some logic about repeat opponents.

[Guido69]

I wish we would match up with MoC. You know how f.... Up the matching system is when they never got matched with top guilds.

[E-I]

Matching is not that easy, but it should not be that hard. Something like:
* For the first minute, is there a guild waiting within 10 positions of my level, we have a match
* For the second minute, check for guilds within 20 positions, we have a match
etc until the fifth minute when you just match to the closest guild. Mismatches would still occur but they should be reduced and the longest wait would be 5 minutes. Not great but better than today. Once that gets worked out properly, add some logic about repeat opponents.

Personally, I'd like to also see some logic in there that prevents you from being matched up with the same guild twice in a row. We are currently playing a double header... it can't be much fun for the other guys to get spanked again. :D

[E-I]

And actually, preventing guilds from meeting 6-7 times in a weekend would be good. It gets really boring playing the same teams over and over and over.

[Rastlin]

I wish we would match up with MoC. You know how f.... Up the matching system is when they never got matched with top guilds.
Really RK, SB, BKG, TFK, DW, AS, etc.. are not top guilds? We have fought many of them more than once, some even back to back.

[Zenobia]

Really RK, SB, BKG, TFK, DW, AS, etc.. are not top guilds? We have fought many of them more than once, some even back to back.

Some of them more than twice even. And before anyone asks, yes, all in THIS war.

[Guido69]

You did not fight the one at the top

[Mr T Perfect]

We have faced you twice this war already - its 1-1 and we are waiting for the decider

[Zenobia]

You did not fight the one at the top
Not yet anyway. Are you suggesting that a huge portion of our fights being against Top 10 guilds, but none of them being FUN, means we were given a free ride by Gree? Really?

Every guild mentioned in that post can verify they faced us. Once twice or three times.

[Guido69]

@ Zenobia : no, I am saying you have not faced the top guild yet.

[E-I]

Personally, I'd like to also see some logic in there that prevents you from being matched up with the same guild twice in a row. We are currently playing a double header... it can't be much fun for the other guys to get spanked again. :D


And actually, preventing guilds from meeting 6-7 times in a weekend would be good. It gets really boring playing the same teams over and over and over.


And... 3rd time in 4 wars we are facing this same team. Lame.

[ELVIS2K13]

And... 3rd time in 4 wars we are facing this same team. Lame.

You better be whoopin that butt

[E-I]

You know it.

[finallyfree]

Gree petition!!!

Last war consecutive of MoC ... give them FUN challenge..:rolleyes: That'd be total epic, don't you think? :cool:

[Joshua -kol-]

Hi I'm from kingdom of legends one.
We are a top 25 guild. For the first 2 days we were paired against nothing but
The likes of top 10 and better we can score 400k+ points per war but our win
Rate is like 21-20 at the moment. We have guilds in the low ranks of like top
750 who are a lot further than us in the guild quests. Gree should have a system
We're u cannot be pair up with the same guild twice in a war. At worst the top
10 teams would be paired up wit top 100 teams (which happens already as I have
Heard) this would make the guild quests a more realistic target for people who
Actually put the effort in to this war. I'm not saying dot pair us up with fun rk or MOC
Just not 20 times in the same war....

[Kronous]

Bad matchups are in the air!!! We tried several different tactics to try and switch our pairs... No luck :(

[E-I]

Gree should have a system
We're u cannot be pair up with the same guild twice in a war.

At the very least, not playing the twice in a 24 or 12 hour period would better.

[pendentive]

We've gone back-to-back with the same guild a couple times.

[E-I]

Gree should have a system
We're u cannot be pair up with the same guild twice in a war.

Also, another reason why Gree should prevent Guilds from meeting up too often in a short period...

Nobody wants to play FUN, RK included, so they wait until FUN starts scoring to declare. SB waits for FUN and RK to score before they declare. The rest of the top ten wait for all three to score before they declare, and I'm sure that goes for some in the top 25 as well.

So when it takes 10-30 minutes for the top three to get a match, and 10-20 minutes for the top ten, you get tons of lag. If Gree changed it so that guilds could only match once, you get rid of all of that waiting to declare. Everybody in the top 50 or so will just assume that they will play FUN/RK/SB once and have to suck it up. But at least you don't have the ridiculous lag in matchups.

[Cola3]

@ Zenobia : no, I am saying you have not faced the top guild yet.
Well...have you?

[Kjctnorris]

You did not fight the one at the top
Lol, oh boohoo. You're complaining that we didn't match up with FUN for one war over the course of 60+ wars (with many other top 10 and 25 guilds)? I try my best to not get into pissing matches on forums, but if this is indeed what you are saying, you're a whining moron. Sorry if that offends morons across the globe.

We've matched against RK, SB, BGK x 2, BlackOps x 2, KTA, BGK3, SB4.0 x 2, ODK, The Forum Knights, Dragon Warriors, Kingdom of Legends ONE, The Fighting Squirrels, The Assassins Guild x 2, Kings Gate, Gods of Valhalla, Supreme Kingdoms, Spectral Agony x 2, Ultimate Kingdoms, and The Knights Templar x 2. All top 25 last war and many top ten. That's 25 battles, and you're boo-hooing about us not getting one loss from FUN? Gtfo.

That's not including multiple tough battles with DumDeDum, BOB, Pristine Kingdom, BGK6, League of Nations, Daddy Chubs, Alderaanian Knights, KotSC and other top 50 guilds.

Boo, f'ing hoo. Good grief.

[Guido69]

...rant...

Have a nice day. That post showed your personality.

We will meet at some point.

[Kjctnorris]

Have a nice day. That post showed your personality.

We will meet at some point.
1) Have a nice day as well.
2) Never tried to hide my personality.
3) Ok?

[Dogs Pizza]

Guido69, you are a fool

[E-I]

Who really cares if MoC played FUN? There are several thousand other guilds out there that haven't played FUN either.

[Cola3]

Have a nice day. That post showed your personality.

We will meet at some point.

Wow first time I've seen an inspector of personalities in the forums. We need people like you, you have an important job.

[Zenobia]

Who really cares if MoC played FUN? There are several thousand other guilds out there that haven't played FUN either.
I am glad we are not the only ones totally baffled by someone's really random obsession with a Murder of Crows vs. FUN match-up. It makes no sense whatsoever to me. Why would an MoC-FUN match be different from a) an anyone vs. FUN match or b) an MoC vs. RK or SB match? Does this really random troll think that MoC is under the misconception that we could beat FUN, and it would be funny to watch us get trounced and surprised at it? Newsflash!: Any team smart, quick-thinking, and organized enough to get Daleth and Dauthus is obviously more than intelligent enough and familiar enough with KA battles to realize they will not beat FUN. Plus, we have faced them in other wars, so if any of us were inclined to believe otherwise, that blind optimism would have been buried under a mountain of FUN CP's.

All that seems really obvious to me, and I daresay pretty much anyone reading this thread. So I am really curious: what is with the random obsession with a MoC vs. FUN match-up?

[Cru Jones]

What??? MoC didn't face FUN? What!?!? Just kiddin'. Congrats on your 50. Impressed. Wish we could have joined you. There's always next time.

Btw... We faced FUN. I showed their wall who's boss. Their wall wanted nothing to do with me. This is jokes in case FUN is reading :) God, I hope there's nobody in FUN named "their wall".

[spyglassk]

No more whining. This just happened to my baby guild. 59k points against 2.3 million.

That's nuts. How the F does that compute in the algorithm.

[Zenobia]

What??? MoC didn't face FUN? What!?!? Just kiddin'. Congrats on your 50. Impressed. Wish we could have joined you. There's always next time.

Btw... We faced FUN. I showed their wall who's boss. Their wall wanted nothing to do with me. This is jokes in case FUN is reading :) God, I hope there's nobody in FUN named "their wall".

Way to make me spit Diet Coke all over my screen... at work no less. I will now note to make sure I am in a place it is okay to guffaw when reading one of your posts. Oh, and I'm sure "their wall" will visit your kingdom and show you who's really boss. He doesn't take being ruthlessly attacked by the likes of you lightly. lol.

And thanks. Hope you get it next time, too. If not, there is always room in MoC for more people with a great sense of humor... (Note to my guildmates: no, that does not mean you will be booted if you don't prove funny enough... Besides, clearly Tarsus is way in the lead in the competion for the funniest. Or at least the best collection of nerdy jokes - still laughing at some of those...)

[Murderer of Bunnies]

Our pairings were far worse than usual. both good and bad, I think at one point we fought a top 1000 guild and a few wars later top 50. Terrible terrible terrible.

[Kjctnorris]

What??? MoC didn't face FUN? What!?!? Just kiddin'. Congrats on your 50. Impressed. Wish we could have joined you. There's always next time.

Btw... We faced FUN. I showed their wall who's boss. Their wall wanted nothing to do with me. This is jokes in case FUN is reading :) God, I hope there's nobody in FUN named "their wall".
Speaking of a player named "their wall", I think it was the Forum Knights who named a member "FK Wall Hitter". That cracked me up.

[Murderer of Bunnies]

Speaking of a player named "their wall", I think it was the Forum Knights who named a member "FK Wall Hitter". That cracked me up.

Too Funny, I love it FK wall Hitter. Atleast you know who to hit, must have save time on scouting. That is unless FK was level 3 than maybe not so much

[Kjctnorris]

FK Wall Hitter was an LLP. Definitely wasn't going to get many points hitting that person.

[Cru Jones]

Speaking of a player named "their wall", I think it was the Forum Knights who named a member "FK Wall Hitter". That cracked me up.

I saw that, that is funny. :) Don't remember who has "Yourguildisplop" but I think that's funny too. Makes me wonder what "plop" means. I assume it has a negative connotation but maybe it's something cool that I've never heard of. Maybe it's a great compliment. "Why thank you, you're guild is plop as well." Lol.

[Zenobia]

I saw that, that is funny. :) Don't remember who has "Yourguildisplop" but I think that's funny too. Makes me wonder what "plop" means. I assume it has a negative connotation but maybe it's something cool that I've never heard of. Maybe it's a great compliment. "Why thank you, you're guild is plop as well." Lol.

Reminds me of the time someone, disgruntled at my raiding, posted on my wall that I was a ******. Obviously Gree had bleeped what they said but I replied on their wall thanking them. That since I did not see what they actually typed, only knowing that it was a 6-letter word, I chose to believe they either called me a "genius" or a "beauty", said so and thanked them either way. They came back and called me a ****** again. I thought, gee, I must have really impressed him/her.

[Murderer of Bunnies]

Reminds me of the time someone, disgruntled at my raiding, posted on my wall that I was a ******. Obviously Gree had bleeped what they said but I replied on their wall thanking them. That since I did not see what they actually typed, only knowing that it was a 6-letter word, I chose to believe they either called me a "genius" or a "beauty", said so and thanked them either way. They came back and called me a ****** again. I thought, gee, I must have really impressed him/her.


That was me Zen, you ******** ;)

[Zenobia]

That was me Zen, you ******** ;)

Why, thank you, dear. So are so sweet it is hard to imagine you slaughtering innocent fluffy bunnies! ;)

[Davinci]

Congratulations to MoC and other guilds that completed the guild quest. Too tough a haul to win all 54 without being defeated. Nice to see

[JoeDaddy]

Well played Cru. Well played. Watch your back I'm sure "their wall" hits back!

[Cru Jones]

Well played Cru. Well played. Watch your back I'm sure "their wall" hits back!

Hey bud! Congrats on the 50 wins. That's awesome! Every time I log in to the game now I'm afraid my news feed will pop up "You were attacked and lost to Their Wall". Hasn't happened yet but now it keeps me up at night.

[Perfuzzie]

Really RK, SB, BKG, TFK, DW, AS, etc.. are not top guilds? We have fought many of them more than once, some even back to back.


you guys are a great team ... glad to see strategy still works in some guilds :)

[taxman]

I hear FUNs wall has a 2 mil def with all the bonuses from the wars. You should consider taking it down quite an accomplishment.

[custos]

For people complaining about the pairings, maybe you should do the math. Many guilds, certainly in the top 200, will fight wars pretty much back to back. So at any one time it's likely that 95% of the teams will be fighting. Hence when you declare there might only be a few teams available to fight within 50 rankings in either direction of your ranking. Sometimes there might not be anyone declaring within 200 of your rank. Hence, it's highly likely that there will be big differences in match ups from time to time. When we match with FUN we only have a couple of people who can score points at all, but we also had match ups where the reverse was true. That's just the nature of the war -- the only way to get "fairer" match ups, as everyone is asking for, is to have much (much!) longer pairing times while you wait for a close opponent to become available and declare. Also, if you then add into the algorithm that you can't fight the same guild twice the problem gets even worse.

By the way, even if all the match ups were "fairer" you would still only expect to win about half your battles. In three days, assuming about 60 battles, that means about 30 wins. Some teams will be luckier and get more lower opponents, but this is a classic zero sum game. For every winner there's a loser, and for every team on 50 wins is a team on 10 wins. The strategy of keeping low for easier opponents is pretty much negated because everyone is doing it, so it pretty much comes down to luck... just like a game. :)

[Gweo]

Hey bud! Congrats on the 50 wins. That's awesome! Every time I log in to the game now I'm afraid my news feed will pop up "You were attacked and lost to Their Wall". Hasn't happened yet but now it keeps me up at night.

Next war everyone in FUN will have changed their name to "the wall". Watch out Cru.

[JoeDaddy]

Hey bud! Congrats on the 50 wins. That's awesome! Every time I log in to the game now I'm afraid my news feed will pop up "You were attacked and lost to Their Wall". Hasn't happened yet but now it keeps me up at night.

Thanks Cru! What a helluva chase! We got it on the next to last battle, and it just so happened to occur against a rival! In that battle alone, we put up nearly a million points as we raced towards Top 25 too.

BTW, I'm starting a mini and naming him "Their Wall". I'm coming for you Cru... Muahahahahahahahahaha!

[JanKA]

How about a LLP called Dismal CPS

So far my guild has had a mixed bag, lots of top50 at the start, but tapered to more relaxing opponents after. So perhaps it just gets colder at the Top.

[Gfours]

With the win/loss stats not showing up for the first couple of battles we found a couple of Pony's to ride and rode them hard we did! So much so our points tally put us in top 3 place... This was our downfall! We then kept getting top 25 matches. So we made a call, declared a few battles with token participation and took the losses. This dropped us to 75-100. This evened up the matches a bit. But even at that level we encountered FUN... I banged my face against their guardians fist... It made me feel good ;)
So although we got beat upon a few times, and even struggled finding mid level opponents for 75% of our guild in quite a few of our battles we still had good points scores against other guilds.
You take the good with the bad and grab points where you can. Alls fair in love and KA

[OM-Kingdom Age]

The match up waiting time was an agony for us. It took us anywhere from 5 min in the beginning to a 40 min with an average of at least 20 min ( sorry no SD) . How are we supposed to complete those consecutive wins when you deduct all the times wasted waiting. We fought 53 battles in the event time ( except last two hours, as there was no point ) while some other guilds had the opportunity to fight 60+ battles as they had less wait time.

[Loki BGK]

Aside from waiting time to be matched, we were stuck in declaration mode for almost or more than 4 hours. All of our members sent tickets, each person sent 3 or 4 tickets about it. How on the world
We could get the 50 wins unit with those 4 hours loss. And their replied is simply saying, All servers were working fine when it happened to us. Bummer

[candii]

every match has two sides, so for everyone complaining about a difficult match there is someone on the other side thankful for an easy match