View Full Version : 50 wins is just too much
procsyzarc
08-16-2013, 12:17 PM
Top teams have to wait an average of 30 mins between matches which means even with 100% win rate and no bugs from Gree we are looking at 75 hours to complete the guild quest. Considering the event is only 73 hours long either something needs to be done to fix the long wait times top teams face or reduce the number of wins.
Ideally the first since it is ridiculous that **** teams get matched instantly giving them a huge advantage over teams that have to wait longer.
person123
08-16-2013, 12:23 PM
I'm with you on this proc.
Cola3
08-16-2013, 12:47 PM
Strategize.
Thank the guys who killed Daleth so quickly last time and came here bragging about it. Gree heard that loud and clear.
chbranch
08-16-2013, 12:53 PM
+1 ^^^^^^^
procsyzarc
08-16-2013, 12:53 PM
Strategize.
Sure kick everyone over 2m attack, great strategy defeats the whole point of the game if you need to keep your stats low in order to increase your stats
jchow69
08-16-2013, 12:54 PM
What if they get to the point where they make the grand prize for 72 wins?
Sure kick everyone over 2m attack, great strategy defeats the whole point of the game if you need to keep your stats low in order to increase your stats
I thought the whole point of the game was to shell out real money for virtual currency that we then get screwed out of due to buggy events?
:p
Murderer of Bunnies
08-16-2013, 01:11 PM
Guys just have fun if no one gets to 50 wins were all winners in our loss
Perfuzzie
08-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Guys just have fun if no one gets to 50 wins were all winners in our loss
Gree will be the only winner :)
Cola3
08-16-2013, 01:12 PM
Sure kick everyone over 2m attack, great strategy defeats the whole point of the game if you need to keep your stats low in order to increase your stats
That's not strategy.
jchow69
08-16-2013, 01:13 PM
Gree will be the only winner :)
Ha, that was a nice one!
Cola3
08-16-2013, 01:14 PM
Guys just have fun if no one gets to 50 wins were all winners in our loss
You can't blame the top guilds....it's mandatory for them to achieve everything...even the things that gems cannot buy.
Cola3
08-16-2013, 01:16 PM
Thank the guys who killed Daleth so quickly last time and came here bragging about it. Gree heard that loud and clear.
They're gonna get it again and brag about it again so I suggest that you leave this forum coz you might die of jealousy.
Cola3
08-16-2013, 01:17 PM
What if they get to the point where they make the grand prize for 72 wins?
They could...if the war is 5 days long.
Murderer of Bunnies
08-16-2013, 01:18 PM
Gree will be the only winner :)
Well thats on you, dont give them any money. If the priize is too hard to obtain why pay for it?
Person
08-16-2013, 01:21 PM
Cola, you're awesome xD
Skyraiders
08-16-2013, 01:27 PM
Thank the guys who killed Daleth so quickly last time and came here bragging about it. Gree heard that loud and clear.
i think if your guild had got there too ....you would have bragged about it too!! Come on man!
Nacon10
08-16-2013, 01:35 PM
the race to 50 wins with all these glitches. this will be a good test .
procsyzarc
08-16-2013, 02:28 PM
Hardly a race when the top teams can't compete, kind of like winning a gold medal at the commonwealth games in gymnastics sure its an achievement but you needed America and china excluded to do it.
the race to 50 wins with all these glitches. this will be a good test .
I am going to track wins vs. server maintenance errors. So far it is 2-4 and Gree has the edge! The race is on.
Colony Colonel
08-16-2013, 02:55 PM
As with the Daleth event and the past LTQ that everyone complained about for being so difficult the top guilds still finished with lots of time to spare. I can guarantee I see the same people in this thread congratulating each other come monday.
sousas
08-16-2013, 03:07 PM
Agreed.
Question is whether the winner list will be smaller or not.
sousas
08-16-2013, 03:09 PM
They're gonna get it again and brag about it again so I suggest that you leave this forum coz you might die of jealousy.
49 hours from start I will surely brag to have finished the 50 win war.. :p
jchow69
08-16-2013, 03:39 PM
49 hours from start I will surely brag to have finished the 50 win war.. :p
Yep, any1 would.
Cola3
08-16-2013, 05:22 PM
49 hours from start I will surely brag to have finished the 50 win war.. :p
As long as you have the prize pic to back it up.;)
Zenobia
08-16-2013, 08:05 PM
Hardly a race when the top teams can't compete, kind of like winning a gold medal at the commonwealth games in gymnastics sure its an achievement but you needed America and china excluded to do it.
Maybe these new guild war quests make the game fun and exciting for people playing this game who are not in the <1% of players who are in a Top 1-10 guild. It gives then goals they can not only achieve, but the possibility of actually doing it before FUN does. The ONLY THING EVER that will happen in this game that FUN will not always be #1 and first at. I think it makes the game a lot more exciting for the 99%ers. And we are people too even if we don't pay Gree as much per capita.
Even just from the standpoint of watching the game these guild war LTQs add a lot of interest. It's like tennis. When there is one player (e.g. Steffi Graf) who always wins every single match by a landslide, it gets boring. No one even bothers to see who is #1 because it is a given. Yawn. Who cares how many bagels she got? But when you have a number of people who could win any given tournament, and could take the #1 spot (e.g. Djokovich / Nadal / Federer / Murray), well then it's really exciting!
If FUN/other Top 10 guild members cannot deal with not being #1 and first at ONE aspect of this entire game, I don't think that means the game needs to be adjusted. I think that means an attitude adjustment is in order. Sorry to be so blunt but the sense of entitlement that rears its ugly head in this forum sometimes annoys the crap out of me. And your post in particular I found insulting and demeaning to all the 99%ers playing the game. You all COULD come up with a strategy to complete these quests first. Maybe it would cost you the Top 1/2/3/10. But you know what? That's the thing about life: sometimes you can't have EVERYTHING. Sometimes, you have to choose which is more important and strive for that and not get the other. Guess what? If you don't get it all, YOU'LL LIVE.
And even if the USA, Russia and China are gymnastics powerhouses, a Romanian or Japanese gymnast can and does win an individual event, or all-around even, even with all the powerhouses there. And that is FAIR.
Flame away at me, 1%ers, I'm ready for it.
Mr T Perfect
08-16-2013, 08:12 PM
AS members of the 99%'s i am loving this additional tactical element to the wars.
makes the game more interesting when your on the edge of your seat every battle to see if you won - rather than just in the last battle seeing if you staying in the tier you were in.
loving your work gree
McLovin
08-16-2013, 08:34 PM
@Zenobia, unless I'm mistaken, procsyzarc isn't in FUN and one of the points he is trying to make is that the matching process for the Top 3 guilds takes longer than for other guilds, so in fact they CANT come up with a strategy to complete the quest first, due to something that's beyond their control... if they even cared about finishing first.
Also, if FUN had 11 mil CP after the first 2 hours, I'm pretty sure they can finish 1st no matter what their strategy to 50 or 54 wins would be, especially if they were first and had 12 hours or so to catch up after completing the Guild Quests.
Zenobia
08-16-2013, 08:39 PM
McLovin, I spoke of all 1%ers not just FUN. And it is NOT beyond their control. All they have to do is score a lot less. Then they'd be matched much quicker. They have the CHOICE of putting up a gazillion CP and therefore being matched slower and so progressing in the guild war LTQs slower, OR scoring less, at least for now, to concentrate on the LTQ goal instead of Top __ goal.
Zenobia
08-16-2013, 08:43 PM
AS members of the 99%'s i am loving this additional tactical element to the wars.
makes the game more interesting when your on the edge of your seat every battle to see if you won - rather than just in the last battle seeing if you staying in the tier you were in.
loving your work gree
Yes, the additional tactical element is VERY fun I am finding! It really gets my heart racing and on the edge of my seat and everything. Great fun! :)
Officer Overlord
08-16-2013, 08:48 PM
a lot of whining on here
Mr T Perfect
08-16-2013, 08:49 PM
Yes, the additional tactical element is VERY fun I am finding! It really gets my heart racing and on the edge of my seat and everything. Great fun! :)
Great battle their Zenobia... thought we had you for a while.
we are now 8-1 for the war so far.
how you guys doing?
Zenobia
08-16-2013, 08:56 PM
Great battle their Zenobia... thought we had you for a while.
we are now 8-1 for the war so far.
how you guys doing?
The first rule of MoC fights is: you do not talk about MoC fighs... until the War is over. ;)
The Good Doctor
08-16-2013, 09:16 PM
FUN cold easily match quicker by lingering at the bottom of the leader board and still pull #1 out in the end. They drop 2-3 mil per battle! They either refuse to adapt or are to ego driven to let their name fall from the #1 spot. Either way it is their choice.
procsyzarc
08-16-2013, 09:29 PM
Again matching is done by average stats not position, the only way top guilds can get quicker matches is too remove all high stat players so their avarage is lower.
We drew Fun in our first match and had lots of issues with disconnects so when we declared for our second match we weren't even in top 25 however it still took 40 minutes to get paired.
All we are saying is everyone should have an equal chance to complete but currently it is near impossible for top guilds, 45 was just manageable 50 may be too much.
At the end it is just bad business for Gree since we are better off leaving top teams and spending less in a lower team since these prizes are better than top 10, 25 and 50 prizes.
The first rule of MoC fights is: you do not talk about MoC fighs... until the War is over. ;)
Translation: we're 5-5.
Mr T Perfect
08-16-2013, 09:47 PM
Cheers E-I
Rastlin
08-16-2013, 09:50 PM
Again matching is done by average stats not position, the only way top guilds can get quicker matches is too remove all high stat players so their avarage is lower.
We drew Fun in our first match and had lots of issues with disconnects so when we declared for our second match we weren't even in top 25 however it still took 40 minutes to get paired.
All we are saying is everyone should have an equal chance to complete but currently it is near impossible for top guilds, 45 was just manageable 50 may be too much.
At the end it is just bad business for Gree since we are better off leaving top teams and spending less in a lower team since these prizes are better than top 10, 25 and 50 prizes.
Crazycorp, you are right it is good thing FUN, and SB doesn't have some of us that are in MoC now..
Klassenr@hotmail.com
08-17-2013, 12:03 AM
McLovin, I spoke of all 1%ers not just FUN. And it is NOT beyond their control. All they have to do is score a lot less. Then they'd be matched much quicker. They have the CHOICE of putting up a gazillion CP and therefore being matched slower and so progressing in the guild war LTQs slower, OR scoring less, at least for now, to concentrate on the LTQ goal instead of Top __ goal.
^^This is a piece of art. Very well said Zenobia.
deuce
08-17-2013, 03:45 AM
The whole point of those things is to get you to spend coin. Quit complaining, this is nothing new.
Just wait until it goes up to 55 next war.
Dexter Morgan
08-17-2013, 11:43 AM
FUN cold easily match quicker by lingering at the bottom of the leader board and still pull #1 out in the end. They drop 2-3 mil per battle! They either refuse to adapt or are to ego driven to let their name fall from the #1 spot. Either way it is their choice.
FUN will be ok. You'll see ;)
jchow69
08-17-2013, 12:10 PM
They just don't lose, that's all. I swear if one of its members pulled a screenshot, it would say that their record is 73-0.
Person
08-17-2013, 01:20 PM
They just don't lose, that's all. I swear if one of its members pulled a screenshot, it would say that their record is 73-0.
i dont think so. Before win rewards were out they pulled 20 or 30 to 0
jchow69
08-17-2013, 02:09 PM
i dont think so. Before win rewards were out they pulled 20 or 30 to 0
You were in FUN?
Person
08-17-2013, 02:10 PM
You were in FUN?
no, ive seen screenshots. My stats might be FUN worthy but my bank account certainly isnt :)
procsyzarc
08-17-2013, 05:05 PM
The whole point of those things is to get you to spend coin. Quit complaining, this is nothing new.
Actually it is to get us to spend less. If this is the way the wars are going to be might as well drop to a top 100 team spend less and still get better prizes overall.
Alexius
08-17-2013, 05:55 PM
Actually it is to get us to spend less. If this is the way the wars are going to be might as well drop to a top 100 team spend less and still get better prizes overall.
You can join my team :D
Mr T Perfect
08-17-2013, 07:36 PM
Actually it is to get us to spend less. If this is the way the wars are going to be might as well drop to a top 100 team spend less and still get better prizes overall.
Come on over to BOB...
Zenobia
08-17-2013, 07:51 PM
Actually it is to get us to spend less. If this is the way the wars are going to be might as well drop to a top 100 team spend less and still get better prizes overall.
Here at MoC, we get people from 1%er teams join us more and more after every war. People who get tired of being members of a robotic infantry force and would prefer the game to actually be fun, and friendly. And still always be Top 25-50. :D
procsyzarc
08-17-2013, 08:17 PM
Here at MoC, we get people from 1%er teams join us more and more after every war. People who get tired of being members of a robotic infantry force and would prefer the game to actually be fun, and friendly. And still always be Top 25-50. :D
Are you guys on track for the 54 win streak. We are touch and go if we will make 50 wins ( 22 and 2 now since we had a loss due to someone hitting declare on their wrong ipad and our first match was FUN) but there is no chance of the streak one since the only way to get 54 matches for top teams is to hit declare as soon as you are out and outside of FUN no one can do that and still win 100%
Are you guys on track for the 54 win streak. We are touch and go if we will make 50 wins ( 22 and 2 now since we had a loss due to someone hitting declare on their wrong ipad and our first match was FUN) but there is no chance of the streak one since the only way to get 54 matches for top teams is to hit declare as soon as you are out and outside of FUN no one can do that and still win 100%
Hit declare... wait 10 minutes... go grab a cup of coffee... wait another 10 minutes... go smoke a cigarette...5 more minutes... sweet a match!
Goliathlefou
08-18-2013, 12:54 PM
Did already at least one guild did the 50 wins?
P4TR1C14N
08-18-2013, 12:59 PM
We are at 60 wins...
....
If i add last weekend and this one... Tssss
Person
08-18-2013, 01:00 PM
if anyone other than FUN finishes this chain quest i'd be highly surprised :)
if anyone other than FUN finishes this chain quest i'd be highly surprised :)
I hear there is camper guild of six people that is undefeated and going for it. They are dropping mad gems, but are playing enough weak teams that it could happen.
Person
08-18-2013, 01:08 PM
I hear there is camper guild of six people that is undefeated and going for it. They are dropping mad gems, but are playing enough weak teams that it could happen.
yeah thats the only other possibility. RK, since you also dont care for money, get FUN that first loss!
Kjctnorris
08-18-2013, 01:11 PM
I hear there is camper guild of six people that is undefeated and going for it. They are dropping mad gems, but are playing enough weak teams that it could happen.
Someone posted a pic today with a 35-0 record with only 250k cp. If that's between six people, it's still more cost effective than what FUN will spend. That's an average of about 65k per person that they'd need to get 54 wins. Not bad iyam.
Person
08-18-2013, 01:13 PM
having those last 2 rewards will be epic for them lol, as virtually no one will have the last one, and very few the 2nd to last one
Someone posted a pic today with a 35-0 record with only 250k cp. If that's between six people, it's still more cost effective than what FUN will spend. That's an average of about 65k per person that they'd need to get 54 wins. Not bad iyam.
Yeah, camping still pays. If you have played BGK3 you will notice that 1/4 of their team are ultra low level second accounts. Those campers are going to have insane stats after this war.
And Gree says leveling isn't a punishment. Ha!
having those last 2 rewards will be epic for them lol, as virtually no one will have the last one, and very few the 2nd to last one
The bonuses attached to them are sick too.
6 person guild just got win #50.
l3lade2
08-18-2013, 03:45 PM
In fairness it's entirely possible a well set up very small guild could achieve 50 and the 9 win streak, all it takes is in this case 6 very high stat for their level players and a few gems.
That being said, the units from the LTQ's still don't replace being in the Top 25 or above...so depending on how many gems are being spent you could question the merit of such a tactic.
I got screenshot sent to my phone. By the time I figure out how to get it up I suspect someone else will post it.
Here...http://s7.postimg.org/yiizo9ih6/http_i_groupme_com_7600a5c0ea850130d22c3e2a18822.j pg
l3lade2
08-18-2013, 04:04 PM
Indeed, congrats to MSC if they have it already, impressive well done
Rastlin
08-18-2013, 04:30 PM
Great job MSC! :)
Person
08-18-2013, 06:04 PM
Please let us know what the final reward is for the H quest, I want to know what insane unit I'll be missing :)
Nacon10
08-18-2013, 06:24 PM
Please let us know what the final reward is for the H quest, I want to know what insane unit I'll be missing :)
58000/48744 unit with 40 percent magic bonus attack
pendentive
08-18-2013, 08:26 PM
congrats....
Johan -
08-19-2013, 01:13 AM
58000/48744 unit with 40 percent magic bonus attack
Seriously? this is a mega reward unit!
Rewards like this, let me question if I wouldn't start another guild just to pick up rewards like this.
I don't see the benefit anymore for 50+ member guilds who float around the TOP100~300.
Better to find rival guilds around the TOP800 and win all battles....
Spending 2 mountains of gems get much more rewarded like this.
Doing GLTQ in the main guild and doing wars in the lower rank small sized Guild ;)..I only don't think my fellow guild members would appreciate this ;)
Back to the drawing board....
Goliathlefou
08-19-2013, 01:18 AM
haha, would be a good solution ;-)
VileDoom
08-19-2013, 01:32 AM
I thought the whole point of the game was to shell out real money for virtual currency that we then get screwed out of due to buggy events?
:p
I see what you did there and it sounds about right.
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